Did you know that notary office owners are the highest paid workers in Brazil?Brazilians go through years of schooling and take several tests all so they can put their signature on another person's contract. Peak efficiency!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I5pENI4Qsg
>>221708017What the fuck lol It’s a literally worthless function
>>221708136it's called the notary raj for a reason
>>221708136Notary is important in Brazil because it's a low trust society and we need the "presumption of authenticity" these registries give, both in contracts, documents and even elements of evidence. They can give presumption of authencity to a variety of evidences, such as whatsapp massages or even a notarial report of something the officer can attest in loco.Your land is also registered in those offices, and can only be cosidered sold if you register your selling contract there.Also, they earn that much money because it is one of the last remnents of the old hereditary captaincies the Portuguese created here. Yes, these Notary Officers were hereditary for not too long ago. They are a mix of private and public office, so they could charge for these services and get very rich (also, they did a public service, so no competition).Nowdays these offices are still a mixture of public and private, and they charge for the things they do, and hire who they want, but the office chief must do a public contest (a test) to take the job.There are projects to fully nationalize these offices and limit the earnings of these notary chiefs to the same of the Judges (which is not bad at all, you would earn more than 10k dollars month).
>>221708284I forgot to say, nowdays the local state Appeal Court fix the prices these notary offices can charge.
>>221708284>yes saar low trust society saar>need 28 stamps and 16 signatures for documents saar>dont question me saar
>>221708017>owners>workers
>>221708360Look man, we live in a 3rd world, underdeveloped, low trust society country. In an ideal world, we wouldn't need so many safe protocols, but here we are.I can only imagine how chaotic would be the lawsuits without the notary services here.
>>221708400even IF it is necessary why tf is it harder to become a public notary than a doctor in brazil
>>221708436For the reasons I told you earlier.First of all, most public positions here can only be filled through a competitive public examination/contest.In the past, these notary offices were private and hereditary (a legacy of the Portuguese hereditary captaincies), and they could charge whatever they wanted. Now the State is slowly “nationalizing” them, and they are already only allowed to charge fixed fees, etc. Not that easy to change this overnight, these notary chiefs have a strong lobby in Congress.Here in Brazil, there are states where even the judicial clerks’ offices are private. Yes, the courts hire companies to handle the bureaucratic side of legal proceedings, this is all a legacy of Portuguese patrimonialism. Can you imagine that?
>>221708017The owners of these places are old money bourgeoise scum
>>221708017This happened because it was hereditary.
>>221708495given youre defending all this i must conclude that youre employed by the government
>>221708436because they are basically a class of modern-day aristocrats whose family history is older than the establishment of the country
>>221708577When did I defend it? I say these notary services are necessary, giving we are a low trust society. We need these stamps so people can sleep well knowing a skank wont beat them in Court later with some forgery.That's not the same as defending the quasi-corporative management of these offices.Obviously I defend a limit to their earnings (Judge's salary).If they offer a public service of this importance, it's reasonable they should all be public employees, they should do a public contest to get the job like any other public position.Sure, there are some public serves that can be management by some corporation in contract with the State, but that should not be the case here.
>>221708644why do they even deserve that much in the first placelike they do nothing besides a signature and a stamp do what the states does and just designate it to whatever is the brazilian equivalent of fedex and ups create some type of standard where a merchant can get a license to be a notary from the government>but muh corruptioncant be any worse than this shit
>>221708284>>221708136>>221708017this is a thing in all of Latam as far as I'm awareit's a dream job because the notary (a lawyer) doesn't do shit, all is done by paralegals and he just signs stuff. they even get coffee or do errands for himfor some reason the nonotary is always male and paralagals all female
We have notaries in shitaly too, they are basically overpaid lawyers
>>221708017Same here. You need a notary approval for everthing here. Like applying for minimum wage jobs. They cost from $10 to $20 depending on the reason. But all they are is a stamp or a signature lmao.
