Why should you be allowed to turn your child into an unsocialized retard?

>>221906148
>indoctrination is mandatory
Explains a lot of EUro posters on this board

>>221906173
Why does the government have any say in how you raise your kids? I swear, Eurocattle will just surrender their kids to the government right after birth in our lifetime.

My parents are retards, i double they could teach me anything

>>221906259
you surrender parts of your body and give your soul to an arab carpenter, whats worse

>>221906173
Meme. All the stats show better life outcomes for homeschooled children and significantly better socializiation and academic achievement

>Research facts on homeschooling show that the home-educated are doing well, typically above average, on measures of social, emotional, and psychological development. Research measures include peer interaction, self-concept, leadership skills, family cohesion, participation in community service, and self-esteem.
>64% of peer-reviewed or representative-sample studies on social, emotional, and psychological development show homeschool students perform statistically significantly better than those in conventional schools
>62% of peer-reviewed studies on academic achievement show homeschool students perform statistically significantly better than those in institutional schools (Ray, Hoelzle, & Pietersma, 2026)

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>>221906148
>homeschooling is just outright illegal, not just extremely regulated, in many Europeon countries
based, someday here too

you VILL learn that the South lost the war
you VILL learn things that challenge your narrow world view
you VILL learn to interact with other children and not be an unloveable chud

>>221906287
What?

>>221906310
A large part of schoolization is learning to interact with others and challenge your world view

>>221906313
I think it's a circumcision reference?
IDK but someone tell him Jesus wasn't ARAAAP

>>221906259
The government is elected by the people, whilst you are a bucktoothed subhuman that wants to teach your child that a Jewish demon created the earth 6000 years ago
What gives you the right to turn a child into a retard?

>>221906259
>Why does the government have any say in how you raise your kids? I swear, Eurocattle will just surrender their kids to the government right after birth in our lifetime.
don't some leftard states in the US prescribe puberty blockers to kids they deem trans without parental consent?

>>221906148
>homeschooling
Weird American thing. No one does that outside the US.
You should stop being weird and adopt metric system, A4 paper size and dd/mm/yy date format

>>221906310
It's because wealthier people are the only ones that can afford to homeschool
Control for wealth and of course having different people teach your child will make them more knowledgeable than some random mother that took a homeschooling class

Also
>studies on social, emotional, and psychological development
Sure thing sperg

>>221906364
>noooOOOOOOOO don't make me learn about black people!
>oh my GOSH I'm going INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE
>save me Jerry Falwell!

>>221906407
>don't some leftard states in the US prescribe puberty blockers to kids they deem trans without parental consent?
What the fuck kind of Faux News ragebait agitprop are you getting in Turkieye?

You need high IQ, patient, high time preference parents for that. Probably breeds good outcomes.

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>>221906311
Gyatt zamn I guess that's why they cover them up

>>221906173
It was this way when I was growing up. Modern homeschooling has groups for kids to socialize. My brother's kids went on a group trip to Europe.

>>221906148
Homeschooling is antisemitic

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>>221906311
>>221906479
>homeschoolers want to keep their sons away from this
what the FUCK is their fucking problem

>>221906148
I truly feel sorry for Europeans
Their fate has been predetermined by an old womyns in Brussels from the moment they are born
They should have the right to seek asylum in the U.S. permanently and without any issues

>>221906148
>>221906259
The only reason it would be done in europe is to train muslim kids to make bombs.

>>221906516
>learning that its not called The War of Northern Aggression is jewish
longing for the madrassa are we Rasheed?

>>221906561
Be a good goy and pay your taxes for Israel.

>>221906173
I went to a public school, and I am an unsocialized retard because of the people I met there.

>>221906506
Just because a small percentage take it seriously doesn't mean its not an, by and large, an insular unloveable chud assembly line.
You can always send your kids to private school or public school and then fill in the gaps. Homeschooling is just wanting to replace the school's agenda with your own.
>but that's their right as parents
True. But I can't help but think its bad for society to have a lot of isolated, anti-social adults running around with nothing in common with their fellow citizens.

Homeschooling should be allowed but it is retarded

>>221906148
I don't think homeschooling is ideal but the idea of having no say in how your child is raised is a truly sickening thought to me.

>>221906459
>What the fuck kind of Faux News ragebait agitprop are you getting in Turkieye?
https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/92372/is-it-legal-for-a-us-minor-to-take-puberty-blockers-for-a-doctor-to-prescribe-p

>>221906677
didn’t read his own link award

>>221906610
>implying most homeschoolers are evangelichuds who are the goodest goys of all
God forbid those Bible thumpers send their kids to a school that says Israel isn't our greatest ally.
That would be TERRIBLE. Totally worth spending ten thousand hours doing something yourself that you have to pay for regardless.

>>221906148
It's allowed but only weirdos do it, though I guess it's more preferable than something like Waldorf/Steiner education.

>>221906173
Why do you think that homeschooling means locking your children inside the house and not allowing them to socialize? It simply means that they are schooled at home.

In the Netherlands everyone can start a school according to their own ideology. And if the standards are sufficient to pass the national exams, they get government funding.

Homeschooling is allowed, but they want to ban it. I'm fairly neutral about it when such facilities exist.

>>221906677
>
https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/92372/is-it-legal-for-a-us-minor-to-take-puberty-blockers-for-a-doctor-to-prescribe-p
Try reading your link this time, and then we can talk about it <3

>>221906311
I went to public school and all it did was make me hate everyone. I had friends who were homeschooled that were better educated and happier than me.
>>221906364
>The government is elected by the people
LOL
>>221906407
No?

>>221906173
why do you think public schooling wont turn your child into an unsocialized retard

>>221906734
70% of the schools here are private schools, with a certain ideology, education method or philosophy. Only 30% are public schools.

Especially Christians start their own schools. In our bible belt you even have government funded schools where you have to sign a contract that you reject gay lifestyles if you want to put your kid on them lol.

>>221906792
>I went to public school and all it did was make me hate everyone. I had friends who were homeschooled that were better educated and happier than me.
sounds like you would've been an unloveable chud aspie regardless, my condolences

>>221906822
Do people pay for those private schools or are they generally funded by the gov?

>>221906699
>This document summarizes the laws of various states regarding parental consent, where again it depends on the specific state whether parental notification or consent is required (and at what age). As you can see, the laws are very complex, involving different ages for different treatments. In Washington, the age of consent for outpatient medical treatment is 13. In Nevada, parental consent is required until age 18 except for emancipated minors and for limited medical purposes (emergencies, substance abuse and STD treatment...).
if i understood it correctly - 13 is ok to dismiss parental consent?
i couldn't read the doc indeed due to firewall in your cunt.

>>221906727
Only undersocialized retards without any schoolmates could ever write something this retarded

>>221906845
He said
>And if the standards are sufficient to pass the national exams, they get government funding.

https://youtu.be/QgvtmO7c-UU?si=jLiT4gba_R5WlTvx

See Captain Fantastic

>>221906659
It's definitely more serious than it has been in the past, and it's not just rednecks wanting to teach their children the bible. Kids learn better in smaller groups. Parents shouldn't have to worry about their kids being shot or becoming drug addicts. Half the kids are ESL and the others must suffer while those kids are brought up to speed. Modern public schools are more like a circus than teaching physicality.

>>221906859
theoretically allowed != states forcing puberty blockers over parental disapproval

Most 13 year olds can’t even get to a doctor on their own because they can’t drive. Unless you live in the middle of a city, you need someone to take you. And you need your parents’ money and insurance to pay for the medication, and you need to get to the pharmacy… That’s all assuming a doctor would just prescribe this anyways. this is a totally invented scenario

>>221906859
this is a reading comprehension problem, not a paywall problem
"The age of consent for outpatient medical procedures" differs by state but basically means you can be prescribed birth control, STD medication, etc. anything else legal to prescribe from that age onward, without parental consent.
>don't some leftard states in the US prescribe puberty blockers to kids they deem trans without parental consent?
The patients and their doctor decide if they should have puberty blockers, not the state.
ya dingus

>>221906845
Government funded. So you don't have to pay for it.
And as the final exams are national, all degrees of the same education level are considered the same.

>>221906824
Yeah, but at least I would be a well educated, unlovable chud. I graduated without knowing how to read cursive or do basic math, and have been playing catch up in my own time. And no, I'm not from some rural area in the south. I'm from a large town in the north. Public school simply isn't as good private or homeschool because there are too many kidsZ

>>221907020
Interesting. That’s been a big fight here in some jurisdictions, whether schools with a particular ideology (especially religious) can get government money.

>>221906148
We're not missing out. I feel like a lot of parents can get away with abuse through homeschooling. Just look at Turpin case, the parents were able to abuse kids for so long mainly because no one was checking on their homeschooling program. Also it's way better if a qualified person teaches u

>>221907036
Skill issue, I learned cursive in 3rd grade public school and I took calculus in high school.

>>221906981
>The patients and their doctor decide if they should have puberty blockers, not the state.
>ya dingus

>theoretically allowed != states forcing puberty blockers over parental disapproval

the law is adopted by state, and doctors are employed by public healthcare can be selected accordingly.
so, patient is 13 years old kid, which can be indoctrinated by public education (also can be preselected accordingly by state appointed persons).

>>221906148
>I should be able to groom mah little girl into the perfect daughter-wife or however the home is schooled

>>221906148
I was homeschooled until highschool. I wouldn't say it really hindered my overall intelligence but there were some specific things that I didn't know because they were never taught. For example, going into highschool I didn't know the order of the months at all. I knew Christmas was in December and I knew after that was January and February because of New Years and Valentines Day but pretty much everything else was a wash.

>>221907160
Bro never learned about the calendar and saying it never made his ass retarded

>>221906963
>Kids learn better in smaller groups
Kids do learn in smaller groups in elementary school.
>Parents shouldn't have to worry about their kids being shot or becoming drug addicts
Agreed but those have little to do with a child's school choice. I am sure that there are plenty of homeschooled kids who, having never really been out of their parent's control, make terrible decisions out of naivete or ignorance about the world once they are on their own.
But you're naive if you think that a large percentage of homeschoolers are there for prejudicial reasons. The thing that keeps them awake at night is little Timmy thinking maybe the Bible isn't the single source of truth, or that maybe the slaves weren't happy, or that maybe his pastor driving a Rolls Royce contradicts certain teachings of Jesus. I know this because I used to build houses over the summer with more, shall we say... zealous denominations. It sounds great on paper but it often ends up in "I'll be damned if I'm going to send my kids to school to learn about NIGGERS and HEATHENS"

>>221907074
It's not a skill issue if I was taught poorly. Smaller classes were the teacher actually cares and tard wrangles students are the way to go. The schools I went to have all gotten worse btw.

>>221906864
Was school the only socializing you ever did when you were growing up? You only ever left your house to go to school?

>>221907234
Learning about the calendar is literally just memorization. I'm not saying it's not necessary because it most definitely is but it doesn't take any brainpower to memorize the months and what order they come in. It's just whether you did it or not.

>>221907096
Their body, their autonomy.
>they deem
No one "deems" the child anything. They seek out treatment and the doctor allows it if they meet the criteria for gender dysphoria or whatever else you can get puberty blockers for.
If you haven't figured out what gender you are by 13 then you're probably retarded.
>nooooooo not the heckin parental consent
yeah we need more knocked up teenagers and teen suicides

>>221907160
The US government gives out free cellphones to poor people and you never saw a calendar until highschool. Were you living in a backwater swamp with ultra religious parents?

>>221906148
Well allow me to break it down:
>school up to middle years is mandatory (retage of when we wuz uneducated farmers)
>no crazy puritans who think school is the work of the devil
>schools don't get graded on performance like whatever the fuck happens in the US (I genuinely don't fucking get it)
>widespread belief homeschooled kids don't get a chance at developing their immune system

>>221907252
>But you're naive if you think that a large percentage of homeschoolers are [NOT]*** there
fix'd

>>221907371
Seeing a calendar and memorizing the months are completely different things. Unless you guys in school didn't memorize the months? Obviously I wouldn't know but I imagine that part of the curriculum in kindergarten or somewhere around there was to recite all the months in order until you knew it by heart

>>221907426
30 DAYS HATH SEPTEMBER
APRIL, JUNE, AND NOVEMBER
ALL THE REST HAVE 31
(EXCEPT FEBRUARY WHICH HAS 28 EXCEPT ON LEAP YEARS WHEN IT HAS 29)

>>221907050
Yeah, in France everything has to be secular. Here we have to opposite approach and try to represent every ideology.
So all political parties get government funding, all schools, all ideologies can start a public broadcaster and get airtime on public television, and so on.

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>>221906148
Homeschooling is usually done by completely retarded schizophrenics. I can understand if you're some richfag with a huge estate that doesn't want his protege to mingle with plebs, but that's rarely the case.

>>221907322
If you don't know about the calendar, there's innumerable other things that you don't even know that you don't know about

>>221907491
>Homeschooling is usually done by completely retarded schizophrenics.
It's the same here, but there are numerous exceptions.

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>>221907519
Liar

>>221907476
Based, the version I learned went "of 28, only one" in the middle to account for february.

>>221907518
Like what? If you can't name any then you're just projecting.
Look I'm not defending homeschooling at all, I think it would have been better if I'd just gone to school. All I'm saying is that I don't think it is 100% a guarantee of a "unsocialized retard".

>>221906311
>>221906479
AI, look at the Apple logo

>>221907521
With all due respect to our calendar-challenged friend, I literally got an undergraduate degree in math and never learned long division.
It came up once in calculus for finding oblique asymptotes, and it was 3 pts out of 100 one time in 4 years.

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I knew a guy who was homeschooled and he was honestly one of the smartest people I’ve met. He helped me out a bit in during college, and he had a nice six figure job right after he graduated. Meanwhile his brother (also homeschooled) was a complete retard who tried to become a rapper, was a drug addict, and was in and out of jail, etc.

>>221906148
unfortunately it is not in mine, so this form of child abuse is legal with little oversight.
>>221906173
i predict this thread will be full of retards that cry about "public school indoctrination", who would be absolutely horrified if a gypsy or other kind of brown person had done the same.

>>221907252
>Kids do learn in smaller groups in elementary school.
Not just elementary school, everywhere. The more teachers per student the better off they will be.

>The thing that keeps them awake at night is little Timmy thinking maybe the Bible isn't the single source of truth,

The opposite of the single parent having to leave their child in daycare and being raised by the system is also true. Are these children being indoctrinated, or are they being told the truth?

>>221907611
Was the retarded brother the younger or older one?

>>221907560
nigga I've broken bread with every batshit evangelical denomination this side of the continental divide and most of them are insane and homeschool for religious schizo reasons. Not religious reasons, religious SCHIZO reasons.
>preppers waiting for the Rapture
>kids whose childhood was church 5x a week and picketing abortion clinics on weekends for 5 hours a day.
>people who just plain didn't like seeing coloreds
If you have to homeschool for religious reasons in the Deep South then sorry you have some very wild beliefs. There are private and charter schools for every level of orthodoxy; if those don't meet your criteria then you're officially a religious schizo.
(no offense)

>>221907754
By high school you should be doing most of it on your own, no? One won't get small groups in uni.

>>221907611
Makes sense. Without having constant points of reference to ground you (like when interacting with others every day) you tend to go into extremes. One of the brothers was swayed into being a smart fella, and the other was swayed into being a fart smella. I was a low attendance student and kinda went my own way as well because of it. I learned well, just not in school, and then got a good job after uni, but I also always had a substance fascination among some chud leanings.

>>221906310
This is just common sense. Assuming the parents are taking it seriously, obviously a child having a dedicated and enthusiastic one on one teacher who can adjust their teaching methods to what's best for the child is going to be preferable to being one of dozens of kids being taught by a jaded and overworked teacher following a government mandated one size fits all lesson plan.

>>221907766
I'm gonna be that guy now. You are displaying the typical neo-liberal arrogance. "My way is right and just, if you believe anything else you are simply uneducated." Not everyone that homeschools is backwater hick, religious nut, or some other stereotype.

>>221907833
If you can do it on your own why would you even need teachers? My community college classes were half the size of the public school classes I went to as well. I'm not saying this is the norm, but simply what I experienced. The Spanish only speakers weren't there. The kids being kept alive on machines that should have been in a hospital weren't there.

>>221907755
The older one

>>221906310
a lot of schooling research shows that kids perform better when parents actually care and invest a bit more time and resources on their kid instead of treating them like roommates
simply having actual back and forths and monthly activities with your kid instead of shoving an ipad in front of them should put them ahead of 70% of kids at this point

>>221906325
some of the most tormented and insecure people I've known were just chewed up during school, and neither the authority nor their parents gave a fuck
let's not pretend schools produce the most well adjusted and best socialized people out there, those studies about homeschooling being better include social and emotional development

>>221908012
Sorry but none of those are healthy ways to raise a children
>waiting for an apocalypse to kill everyone or destroy their livelihoods so that you can live like kings
>church 5x a week + spouting hatred at strangers all weekend
>leaving public school so you dont have to see darkies
None of these are going to positively benefit the child in anyway. How do you think any of the examples I mentioned are going to impact the child's development?
How do you think it prepares them for the real world?
All it does is force them to stay in their very small, very limited world. They might have done something else, been happier, but they're forced to stay in whatever life their parent arranged for them. A parent should give their child all the tools to succeed, and let them choose their own path.

>>221908045
>If you can do it on your own why would you even need teachers?
To help with the occasional problem(s). Your teachers are standins for professors, who are standins for future bosses.
You still need teachers, but you're doing more of it on your own. In uni you might have a lecture with 200 kids. I always thought of school as making one more capable of self-discipline and working things out on their own. Less of the instructor showing you how to do something many different ways, and more "read your book pages __ through __, odd number problems due tomorrow"
...then again I may be biased because I never learned anything in class, never got it the way I wanted it, had to learn it all myself at home.

>>221908214
I never said it was right in the first place.
>the last thing
You're crazy if you think public school doesn't put people on the path to racism. There are memes about blacks being loud at seven AM in the morning. And then there are the times when a teacher/school will punish everyone because a black or brown decided it would be funny to steal something from the teacher or connect their phone to bluetooth speaker and blast something inappropriate.

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>incel chuds discussing "healthy ways to raise children"

>>221906264
Homeschooling is not being thaught by your parents retard, is your parents hiring private teachers.
Holy shit germs are so ignorant and retarded. Next thing you gonna say is that AC are evil.
>>221906364
>The government is elected by the people
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH yeah sure thing, goycattle.

>>221906173
School was horrible in every way socially

>>221909408
>is your parents hiring private teachers
Not necessarily

>>221906259
your child is not your property but a citizen with rights

>>221906407
No, that happens here though

>>221910125
Uhm sweaty, thats anti abortion coded

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IN FINLAND we have hundreds, HUNDREDS!, of swedes who immigrated here because we allow homeschooling, whilst sweden does not.

>>221910544
grim. also weird of them to choose finland rather than here.

>>221906148
People who'd homeschool their kids here send them instead to Waldorf-schools, which serve the same purpose. They kinda work intil the end where the kids habe to write standardized exams

>>221910569
mostly on Åland and such

>>221910607
well, that makes more sense, i forgot you guys control that.

>>221906259
imagine how stupid your kids are going to be

>>221906173
faggot slave

>>221906945
Based as hell. What more needs to be said?

>>221906432
This is cope

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>>221906259
stunting your child because government forced feral niggers into public schools doesn't mean you live in some libertarian paradise