DJT is a language learning thread for those studying the Japanese language.Japanese speakers learning English are welcome, too.Read the guide linked below before asking how to learn Japanese:https://web.archive.org/web/20220326112058/https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/guide.htmlGrammar references: https://djtguide.github.io/grammar/grammarmain.htmlArchive of older threads: https://desuarchive.org/int/search/subject/Daily%20Japanese%20Thread/Translation requests, insults, politics, reddit posts, lust, learning method / eceleb discussions: >>>/jp/djtPrevious Thread: >>221788453
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>Long grammar guides like this one should be used like dictionaries. If you're a beginner, you don't want to rely on them as your primary grammar guide. Instead, read one of the recommended grammar guides and refer to this page to look up individual grammar points on a case-by-case basis.Why is it so hard to find anything for Japanese that treats me like a fucking adult and just presents things systematically? My Latin education wasn’t like this at all and the grammar is way more irregular and sprawling in that language. No language on Earth has such a complicated core grammar that its rules can’t be taught systematically in a reasonable amount of pages. Only Japanese seems so insistent on atomizing every single end-product usage and teaching them piecemeal instead of teaching the underlying rules that produce the outcome. “Grammar points” what a fucking joke. I’ve looked so long to find something that shows some actual tables and explains the agglutinative grammar of the language in a straightforward way that I want to tear my hair out.
あの、どんな日本の映画好きですか
>>221943593鬼ばばしか観たことない…とにかく、日本製映画に興味あるならこのチャンネルをオススメhttps://www.youtube.com/@MEWSBOX_jp
Y'all will never learn shit lololoolololJaps will never learn English and gaijin will never learn Japanese. It's impossible. You should just give up.
>>221943444>I’ve looked so long to find something that shows some actual tables and explains the agglutinative grammar of the language in a straightforward way that I want to tear my hair out.maybe this helps youhttps://imabi.org/ichidan-verbs%e3%80%80%e4%b8%80%e6%ae%b5%e6%b4%bb%e7%94%a8%e5%8b%95%e8%a9%9e/I think it's hard to explain how conjugation works in Japanese because you basically need to be familiar with other particles and how they change the meaning of a verb/sentence when attached, but you see it frequently in grammar guides which themselves are in Japanese https://www.kokugobunpou.com/用言/動詞-1-性質と働き/#gsc.tab=0basically verbs and some particles need to be conjugated to be "agglutinative". There are two sets of verbs which conjugate differently (一段 and 五段 for how many vowels they can end on), and the different kinds of conjugation attach to specific particles or grammar objects.The most important and distinct kinds of conjugation are 連用形 (continuative form) which attaches a verb to another verb, and 未然形 (irrealis form) which attaches to negative and passive particles. I may not have explained it well but just keep on reading and when you revisit how it works in the future it's very intuitive.
>>221946506>you see it frequently in grammar guides which themselves are in JapaneseBecause it’s important and native speakers don’t infantilize it. I’m aware of the basics like ichidan and godan I’m just annoyed that I’ve only seen something halfway approaching a conjugation table like picrel in a fucking cure dolly video.
>>221946506>>221949264Thanks for the response btw. It’s just that I can find and have created comprehensive rules for conjugation of regular verbs that fit on a single page, for every regular verb in the language, and I can’t find hardly anything like this for Japanese even though I know it is a less complicated and irregular system than Latin.
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>一光照觸無涯限 十方國土悉充遍The reach of His singular light's illumination is boundless, the lands of all ten directions being everywhere filled>普使世間得大明 此破闇者所行道Widely causing the world to attain great effulgence—this is the path practiced by he who smites the darkness>隨其應見應供養 爲現如來清淨身According to what they should see, or give offering to, He manifests for them the purified body of the Tathagata,>教化衆生百千億 莊嚴佛刹亦如是Educating beings in their hundreds of thousands of kotis, and adorning Buddha-fields in just the same way>爲令衆生出世間 一切妙行皆修習In order to enable beings to transcend the world, He cultivates all sublime practices>此行廣大無邊際 云何而有能知者And this practice is vast without limitation—how could there be any who comprehend it?>假使分身不可説 而與法界虚空等Supposing one should divide themselves into an ineffable number of manifestations, commensurate with all empty space of the Dharma Realm,>悉共稱揚彼功徳 百千萬劫無能盡And these should all together extol His many virtues, even in a hundred thousand myriads of aeons, they would not reach the end>菩薩功徳無有邊 一切修行皆具足A Bodhisattva's merit is without bounds, and all his cultivated practices completely perfected>假使無量無邊佛 於無量劫説不盡Supposing an immeasurable, unlimited number of Buddhas should teach of this for immeasurable aeons, it would still remain unfinished>何況世間天及人 一切聲聞及縁覺How much more so for all the men and devas of the world, and all the sravakas and pratyeka-buddhas?>能於無量無邊劫 讃歎稱揚得究竟How could they, in immeasurable and unlimited aeons, ever reach the conclusion of their praises?
