New whiteness map dropped
>>221992147>AtheistBased. Surely it is rational to use science to discover the truth, rather than accept whatever is said in religious scriptures.
>>221992147it's expected that in the following months, atheism overtakes christianism on the general population in Spain, not just in the youth but in everyone :)
95% of "Orthodox" people here don't set foot in church outside of Easter and don't follow any of the Christian virtues. "Orthodox" here is a synonym for "ethnically Bulgarian with conservative social views"
>>221992342Mejor buscate un trabajo.
>>221992147Based.
>>221992370Here it's an identity thingYou're orthodox Christian because you're not a Turk or Albanian I'm not even baptized and I put down orthodox on the census
>>221992370This sounds like the evangelical criticism of catholics in my country. Being religious but not obsessed is normal, healthy and better than being atheist or fanatical schizos
>>221992298But atheists don't do that they just repeat mantrasI wish I could believe in God again, Christians are much less retarded overall.
>>221992446Not following the values of your professed faith is hypocritical, not "healthy"
>>221992147>religioustugal
I'm surprised by Ireland and Austria
>>221992494Protestants and tradcaths should move to the middle east if they think they are such living saints. All good cultures are spiritual but not fundamentalist
>>221992580Damn, retard convert zeal but with open "I'm just larping" admission
atheism debunkedhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=YVi0kEJT6rQ
>>221992147Grim
>>221992580True religion and faith is for the lost and the broken. You don't need to be a saint to follow a religion, just want to feel closer to God. That said i am very skeptical of all organized religion
>>221992147>all catholic countries are still white>all atheist countries are becoming brown
wasn't there a recent report that said half of schoolchildren in vienna are muslim or smt
>>221992676>Austria>Still white
>>221992147Based grey countries. The age of religion is over
>>221992637I'm not larping. I literally believe in the Trinity, the Gospels, afterlife, sins, the sacraments. I'm just not obsessed about it. I can get the eucharist twice per year on Easter and Christmas and that's perfectly fine, I don't need to be in a church 24/7. I know this isn't 100% good, I'm not perfect and I don't think religion loses its meaning if people aren't perfect like this nu consensus post-Americanization of the internet seems to be. This culture only breeds fanaticism and then irreligion when your kids get fed up with your nonsense
this map isnt even trueliterally most zoomers go to confirmation and get baptizedwhat more do you want?
>>221992147>Catholictugal
No one believes in god in russia except for 80 year olds and larpers. Definitely not gen z, lol
>>221992342You need to go back
>>221992147I thank my parents for baptising me even though they are not religious themselves
>>221992441get baptised asap anon
Trust in God but verify the soyence
Trust in Allah but beat your woman
>>221992147>atheism>religionthats like saying the most popular car brand is not having a car
>>221994156I'm not paying some priest 20 euro to splash water on me
O MY SCIENCE HECKIN HELP ME
>>221994607ST FAUCI SAVE ME
>>221994594>>221994156Apparently it's SIXTY FIVE euro for some incel to splash water on me
>>221994689shouldn't this be free?
>>221992147>Britain>not hinduism or sikhismwtf?
>>221994976Modern day indulgences
>atheistThey are more like agnostics.
>>221992147what us geo data and rankings and how do i convert to it
Honestly never met anyone religious who wasn't some immigrant from a thirdie country. Like even our priests are atheist.
>believe in a greater power where every fundamental force (including gravity) is fused into one>this greater power gives birth to spacetime itself and other "lesser" fundamental forcesThat's not a genesis story?
>>221992460>Christians are much less retardedChristians have never proven their beliefs. You might as well believe in leprechauns. They are substantiated by just as much evidence as there is for God: none.
Atheist vs goat-shaggers/kikeonastick worshipper
>>221995832>Christians have never proven their beliefsNeither have atheists, they just habe some vague gay "do no harm and muh consent" moral principles that they throw out of window and ant of their earliest convenience and just lazily mimic christian ethics instead. Most athiests are just midwit christians who think theyre smarter than the book they still unintentionally follow. >heh I dont believe in le stupid sky fairy>murder and theft are wrong because... they just are okay?????Pathetic
>>221996585>Neither have atheistsBeing atheist is lack of belief. Not whatever you Americans have turned Atheism into. There is no need to prove something that is nothing. Doesn't matter if you say god, Santa or the flying spaghetti monster. If you say it exists, it is YOUR duty to prove it. But again faith is faith. You believe without proof. We don't believe without it.
>>221992370same
>>221992370
>>221996728>is no need to prove something that is nothingNothing unironically is something you need to prove , fucks sake. The absolute state of Swedish education. >Doesn't matter if you say god, Santa or the flying spaghetti monsterExcept it does no matter how much you try to handwave away the concept of theistic entities existing because you lack any knowledge within ontology or epistemology. >We don't believe without it.You believe that murder, slavery, and theft is wrong due to christian ethics and theres no other reason to consider them morally unjust if youre genuinely an atheist.
>>221996916>You believe that murder, slavery, and theft is wrong due tosocial economic reasons also slavery was a thing for thousand of years together with religion
>>221996916>Nothing unironically is something you need to prove , fucks sakeNo, because it's the base. It's nothing. Saying god exists is no different from saying Big Foot exists. Provide proof. Saying he does not exist does not require proof. Unless you're mentally ill.
>>221992446>>221992370That's what religious historically meant for most people, all through history. Religious "traditionalism" as a political force is very modern, and a form of mass politics similar to socialism/fascism. >>221992494Yes, historically it wasn't normal to fret over the letter of the law and for religious faith to highly regulate people's lives. Christians used to gamble in the church courtyard right after service in the middle ages lol. Muslims used to barely wear the niqab (it was an upper class thing) and drink lots of alcohol. They'd be vaguely aware mohammad proscribed it but they wouldn't care.
>>221997023>social economic reasonsCan be used to justify murder and theft, theres no reason to he against them when they economically benefit you. >also slavery was a thing for thousand of years together with religionSlavery was banned by divine command from christians there is no other reason to consider it illegal>inb4 economic factors Slavery still exists in modern economies btw and theres no reason to make sex slavery illegal anyways
>>221996916Holy fuck you're fat and stupid.
>>221997078>, because it's the base. It's nothing>its true because its reflexively true Lmao>Saying he does not exist does not require proofStatements logically require proof and justifications to determine whether they are true or false. Again, people like you are just lazy Christians at the end of the day.
>>221997319Peak atheistic arguments already huh?>wahhhhh god no real me angry
>>221997354I don't argue with fat retards.
>>221992460>just repeat their mantras!Hardly. "I don't believe". That's the only mantra that's neccessary.
>>221997385Nah im sure you talk to yourself plenty
>continent becomes gaytheist>suddenly also birthrates drop and people become nihilistic self-destructive retardsPure coincidence
>>221992298Science and religion are unrelated
>>221996916>You believe that murderWrong by definition.>slaveryPlenty of cultures banned slavery and there are ways to argue it through philosophy such as Veil of Ignorance. Also most christians thought slavery as a-okay only a couple of centuries ago so this is not really a win for them.>theftTheft is a social construct that is based on concept of fairness and ownership, concepts many social animals know instinctually in primitive form. Again it's trivially easy to argue against theft through utilitarism and such.>christian ethics No such thing. Only ethics in different societies that labelled themselves christian and all of those societies would disagree on many, many things. >and theres no other reason to consider them morally unjust if youre genuinely an atheist.As I already pointed out, this is plainly wrong and most likely you haven't honestly thought about it or are straight up lying.
>>221994689>paying to be baptisedgrim
>>221992147Hmmm even Turkey?
In the last census I didn't even get to speak up about any of these things. The lady that arrived to our apartment to collect the data just sat down at the table with my mom because apparently it's easier for them that way and then my mom just gave her all the information about us and basically said in the name of all five people in the house that we're orthodox christcucks. She even got embarrassed about the fact that my dad dropped out of university and she lied how he finished a vocationsl school for some incredibly dumb reason, and that made it into the official national census data kek
>>221997570In fact, they're in direct opposition
>>221992147Meaningless statistic
>>221997696Explain
>>221996916Legitimately one of the dumbest posters on this board.
>>221997629>philosophy such as Veil of IgnoranceAlready based around christian egalitarian concepts and is an extremely flawed concept that doesnt inherently outline why slavery is wrong. >Plenty of cultures banned slaveryLol no not really>Also most christians thought slavery as a-okay only a couple of centuries ago so this is not really a win for them.Theyre the ones who globally banned it so yes it is.>Again it's trivially easy to argue against theft through utilitarism and such.No its not, utilitarianism makes excuses for theft. The only reason you would think theft is wrong would be if it inconvenienced you subjectively, its not a moral argument. >no such thingChristian ethics exist whether youbwant to believe or not lol. Most pf your ethics come from Christianity anyways like most western thought >this is plainly wrong *correct Because all pf the things you value are christian values in origin. A true athiest is a nihilist and there are no exceptions. Most secularists thought is just a vain attempt to try to justify christian values without Christianity
>>221992147Also they're definitely lumping in atheists with agnostics and irreligious people etc etc in this map. Christian denominationd are definitely still the plurality in many of these grey countries
>decades of communism are somehow less distructive to the soul of a country than Anglo globohomoGrim.
>>221997741You can't reconcile creation myths with what we know about realityThe evolution itself throws everything about the early genesis out of the windows, and therefore invalidates Christ's sacrifice
>>221997777Tested IQ in the 95th percentile akshully. Youre just a midwit lashing out
>>221997321You're just muslim im denial.
>>221997824The fight is between the midwit(me) and the utter moron (you)
>>221997822Can't into symbolism award
>>221997824More like 95 IQ lolSmart people don't need to brag about their online horoscope tests.
>>221997832There are athiest muslims who are essentially just lazy muslims as well, not every atheist is some pseudo christian its just that most are. Then there are genuine atheists who hold no values that originate from religion whatsoever who are genuine nihilists but theyre pretty rare.
>>221997886It was professionally tested actually and to be frank its not bragging its just reminding you of your place :)
>>221997898lmao genuine retardWere you homeschooled mayhaps?
>>221997913>it was professional fortune teller!!!HE DOUBLES DOWNThanks for the laugh, idiot. I have a bridge to sell if you're interested.
>>221997926Nope, rich kid went to private school and used to be the edgy atheist kid
>>221997982So you went to the lil' shithead school that only taught you false confidence? Got it. That sure checks out.
>>221994483For someone to reject the notion of God, that notion needs to exist in the first place.Imagine you tell someone you don’t believe in florbazorp. Their first reaction would be what the fuck is a florbazorp. Negation of something needs that something in the first place.
>>221997977>IQ tests are fortune tellingLmao
>>221992298Most people just believe what other people tell them, or whatever they read on the internet, be it social media, Wikipedia, ChatGPT, etc.The scientific method is not in widespread use amongst the population either, atheist or not. And arguably, academic research mainly relies on citing other published papers, with empirical evidence and theoretical reasoning playing secondary roles.I really do wish it were more common, but it's not as convenient as instinctively taking what you read and hear as true, and most people don't have access to often expensive scientific instruments either, so they can't make precise measurements.
>>221997869Ah yes. It's symbolic.It's metaphorical.You end up like that when you try to study theology and ignores history.Each day religion becomes more and more metaphorical.
>>221998026Yeah I didnt get educated on YouTube like most atheists
>>221998049He's mocking you because you don't understand what a IQ test is
>>221998073This is true. Even among people with academic education this sort of reasoning isn't common outside of their chosen field
>>221998118All im seeing is cope since none of you can actually argue, just like most atheists >erm akshully youre dumb lol
>>221992147fake map, our youth is mostly Sunni Muslim, maybe some Istanbulites can be atheist
>>221992370trvke that kills balkangutans
>>221996916I don’t think there was any society where murder and theft were seen in a positive light. Christians don’t have monopoly on basic morality
>>221992147Slovakia>59.8% Catholicism>7.6% Protestantism>1.4% other Christian (Orthodox)Mind = Blown
>>221998852>don’t think there was any society where murder and theft were seen in a positive lightYes and most of those societies based those values around religion and made exceptions for murder and theft in certain contexts, christianity states that all murder and theft is inherently wrong. Mongols made exceptions for murder and theft constantly. Human sacrifice was practiced by many religions, honor killings were regularly justified, theft was only considered wrong in certain societies if said property belonged only to certain people not as a universal that any theft was wrong. These forms of universal egalitarian principles that apply to all men ultimately trace themselves to traditions set by christians in the western world. You did not see these kinds of moral convictions in most cultures which probably sounds alien to most modern people but thats just due to how normalized these mores are. Its just a given than murder is wrong and theft is wrong, that is not how a lot of other cultures operated
>>221992676It's only Poland and Lithuania and just only because they're slowly getting jeeted too
>>221998105My "atheist education" predates Youtube althoughbeit.
>>221999403Wiktionary: Murder: The crime of killing a person unlawfully, especially with predeterminationBritannica: Murder, in criminal law, the killing of one person by another that is not legally justified or excusableI have to clarify that manslaughter was excused and justified in several different ways in several different cultures. The only relevant religion that absolutely prohibits any kind of killing is jainism
>>221999579>The crime of killing a person unlawfully, especially with predetermination>unlawfully Is a word doing a lot of heavy lifting in this definition, murder is any unjustified killing more broadly speaking not just the taking of a life. In many cultural context what would make a justified killing could be >being slighted >being lower class >human sacrifice >being a foreigner >being part of someone's property and being condemned to die with them >breaking any law whatsoever and being deemed an outlaw and therefore not legally a personAnd it goes on and on , and I would bet you would take offense to killing of a person based solely on these circumstances but that is not how a lot of ancient cultures functioned. Most of the reason why these are no longer seen as juatified is due to christian ethics being the basis for a lot of western culture >The only relevant religion that absolutely prohibits any kind of killing is jainismTrue, Christianity still permits certain forms of killing its not a purely pacifist religion like jainism
