This country declining the title of successor to Rome and instead asserting that it's its own behemoth in its own right, seems to unsettle Europeans more than if it simply claimed continuity in regard to first thing.
every empire had its peak and their downfall. now its amerikas time for the fall.
>>222192541If USA falls, the world goes with it because of globalization, which the US created.
>>222192590The British Empire existed before the U.S. was even a thing. Now the UK is nothing but a glorified island aircraft carrier for the U.S. navy. In time, you will be replaced by China and China will be replaced by someone else until we all blow each other up into smithereens.
>>222192590and from the ashes something new and better will rise.
>>222192673Delusion. China will be lucky not to canibalize itself. Chink worship is seriously the mark of the brown faggot. Queue the subhuman monkeyzilian in 3...2...1...
>>222192673It won't be China, it will be the EU or no one. China is still clinging to neoliberalism, there's no one gunning for anything new except maybe Iran, they're pushing for crypto to be used for oil trade and developing novel credit systems.
>>222192162Rome destroys the synagogue of satan while america is their golem whore.
>>222192797>Israelis are the real jewsThey're slavic runoff and Germans, according to Brits and Scots the real Israelis are in the UK. Also the golem kills the rabbi in the story so that's still destroying the synagogue even if you think Israel isn't a ridiculous front for colonialism.
>>222192680No guarantee at all. 1945 - 2026 is a unique time in history and there's no reason to believe things will get better.
>>222192711>>222192722The EU is a dysfunctional mess and could never exist as a state. Pax Sinica is becoming a reality.
>>222193219>tf>tp
>>222192797Zuttsluts really ideologically raped your continent, and all you do now is cry about /pol/ while spamming the memes they introduced to you about jews
>>222193219Based on zigger wishcasting not on literally any measurable piece of data. Keep coping you subhuman serb.
>>222193275The strait is still closed btw
>>222194075Lol, it isn't. Check oil, thirdie. How's it feel to be permapoor?
>>222192162>>222192673>America will fail! America's in a slump for sure, but is it just downhill from here? I really don't know if I believe that. I really do think there's still just too many Americans who are extremely motivated to just let that from happening. If anything else, I think it's much more likely that we end up just chimping out amongst ourselves and depending on how things go an even big America ends up on the other side. I mean, things like the Partial Nuclear Ban Treaty, Outer Space Treaty of 1967, and Moon Agreement is basically only upheld because of us in conjunction with the other world powers agreeing even when it's to their own detriment. Slice it anyway you want, but we're generally a competitive set of people, if things crashed I think there's a good change we'd trim fat before shifting to high gear again.
>>222194129>How's it feel to be permapoor?Migatards will worship a pedophile who loses wars to sandniggers and shits on the petrodollar while paying exorbitant prices for gas to fill up their goymobiles and they will unironically call you a thirdie for living a country with the highest home ownership rates in the world, virtually non existent crime, 0 niggers, 0 kikes, 0 fent junkies, and a majority white population. If you have to compare yourself to Serbia, you already lost.
>>222193211ever heard of la belle epoque?
>>222194319The United States won't collapse like the Roman Empire. There was a slow and gradual decline from hyperpower status in the 90s, especially since the 2008 economic crisis, until Trump accelerated the world into a multipolar competition akin to but not exactly like the Cold War. The United States will remain a superpower but it's economic, political, and military capabilities will be diminshed compared to what was the peak in the 90s.
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>>222192590>If USA falls, the world goes with itcan't wait
>>222194429LOOOOOOOOLInsane cope. You and your "people" are poor and irrelevant.
>>222194621You will kys within 24 hours of no internet and 4chans
>>222194681>You and your "people" are poor and irrelevantSo is 99% of the United States. The exception being your pedophile elite who are shitting up the world.
>>222194706Reddit cope unironically lmaooooo
>>222194429i am not a 55 year old retarded boomer and thus not a trump supporter
>>222194706quality of life probably is legitimately higher in your country but we produce virtually all the technological and scientific advancement. america has 2.5x the amount of top cited papers per capita and white americans have higher academic performance and higher iq than literally every single european country (average 103 for white americans vs 92-99 across most of europe). thus you are largely irrelevant on the world scale, as is europe as a whole
>>222194768>>222194969here comes the resident ecks excel autist
>>222192541But we aren't even at our peak yet~
>>222192162learn from Rome before giving it up.Place an imperator. (initial phase of ending a republic system)Introduce a new religion suited for modern society along with a central religious authority.(christianity and vatican)
>>222194768>The middle class shrinking and the rich getting wealthier is actually le good even doe the middle class life is becoming unaffordable >over 60% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck>Only about 65% of Americans own a home>50% of Americans are unable to read above the 6th grade level>According to the Brookings Institute: 53 million Americans between the ages of 18 to 64—accounting for 44% of all workers—qualify as “low-wage.” Their median hourly wages are $10.22, and median annual earnings are about $18,000.>According to a study from Columbia University: Overall, 4.5% of U.S. deaths were found to be attributable to poverty... the number of deaths the researchers calculated as attributable to low education (245,000) is comparable to the number caused by heart attacks (192,898), which was the leading cause of U.S. deaths in 2000. The number of deaths attributable to racial segregation (176,000) is comparable to the number from cerebrovascular disease (167,661), the third leading cause of death in 2000, and the number attributable to low social support (162,000) compares to deaths from lung cancer (155,521).>According to a 2016 study from the American Economic Association:The United States has higher infant mortality than peer countries... The US disadvantage persists after adjusting for potential differential reporting of births near the threshold of viability.If you include the violent crime rates, incarceration rates, and delve a little deeper into the notoriously abysmal American healthcare system, you'd find that there are much better western countries to live in.
In conclusion: Australia superpower 2030
>>222195209>in his quest to discredit america he acknowledges that americans sufferyou forgot the massive amount of homelessness. most of the homeless people I meet nowadays are mentally well and don't do drugs or drink but simply can't afford the insane rent here. this country has become an unbelievable shithole
>>222195321I do not want to discredit America. In fact, I am dissapointed that your great country is in this quagmire which is why I am confrontational with your fellow countrymen who refuse to acknowledge these problems.
>>222195209>middle class shrinkingWages are. Everyone still lives in suburbs and will own property even if inherited. There's no commieblocs outside of cities.>60% paycheck to paycheckThat's from a private survey by lendingclub, living paycheck to paycheck depends on the area you live in. If you're outside a city (like most of the country) things are generally cheap.>Only about 65% of Americans own homeThey only counted people who own homes for that stat btw, it was in regard to mortgage. That means 35% of people who own homes have no mortgage.>50% of Americans unable to read at the 6th grade levelA private survey reported that state PIRLS and PIAAC (which are international) put the US at the same rate as Europe.>More private company statsWages scale to area 18k goes farther in Arkansas than New Hampshire.>Deaths due to povertyIn California, which mostly runs off stats from major pop centers.>Infant moralityIn the south primarily because they refuse abortion on a state by state basis.>violent crime ratespicrel 52% of crime in the US is in 2% of counties this heatmap of crime comprises less than 25% of the US population. Most of the mismanagement is in the south or major urban centers almost invariably.
>>222195696>They only counted people who own homes for that stat btw, it was in regard to mortgage. That means 35% of people who own homes have no mortgage.The U.S. Census Bureau defines the homeownership rate as the proportion of all occupied households that are owner-occupied. The remaining ~35% are renters, not homeowners without a mortgage.>That's from a private survey by lendingclub, living paycheck to paycheck depends on the area you live in. If you're outside a city (like most of the country) things are generally cheap.According to the U.S. Census Bureau, over 80% of the U.S. population lives in urban areas, meaning the vast majority of the country does not live where things are "cheap.">Wages are. Everyone still lives in suburbs and will own property even if inherited. There's no commieblocs outside of cities.This is mathematically and socially impossible. Millennial and Gen Z wealth gaps, property taxes, institutional housing buys, and families with multiple children mean property cannot simply be neatly inherited by "everyone" to guarantee 100% future homeownership.>A private survey reported that state PIRLS and PIAAC (which are international) put the US at the same rate as Europe.Yeah, I was wrong here. The study actually noted that about 50% of U.S. adults lack ADVANCED literacy.>In California, which mostly runs off stats from major pop centers.poverty-related mortality and lower life expectancies are statistically concentrated heavily in the American South and Rust Belt, not just "major pop centers" in California.>picrel 52% of crime in the US is in 2% of counties this heatmap of crime comprises less than 25% of the US population.31% of the pop*. Everything else checks out.>In the south primarily because they refuse abortion on a state by state basis.This can be attributed to systemic healthcare gaps, poverty, and maternal care deserts rather than a single legislative factor.
>>222196440>Census bureau>The U.S. Census Bureau calculates the homeownership rate based on occupied housing unitsThey say this outright, it's not even a secret.>Urban areasWhat the US considers urban and the rest of the world isn't the same thing. If you're near a highway and have utilities they count you as urban. You can live in a suburb with a septic tank 100 miles from NYC inner city and still be counted as part of a metro area.>100% future homeownershipMost of the country wouldn't live in suburbs if home ownership wasn't common. Only like 10-15% lives in the major cities, like the actual areas you would consider cities not sprawling suburbs.>SouthI know dixie is a shithole, but Cali specifically focuses on major population centers. Btw dixie is less than 20% of the US population yet almost all the stats people focus on come from there, those states in dixie still believe in state's rights they mismanage everything because they're fundamentalist maniacs.>31%It's not 30%. South Florida, Cali, NYC, Seattle, Houston, Detroit, South Carolina, Louisiana, Alabama, and Baltimore aren't 30% of the US population. >systemic healthcareNo it's because they're fundamentalists that ban abortion so people kill their babies rather than aborting them. That's why it's almost entirely consolidated in that area. There's no 'systemic' issues that reach the south due to their belief in state's rights. It's kind of wild seeing people rag on the most anti-Union part of the US, you'd think they would try and radicalize them against the feds rather than have them broken in.
>>222192162things will get better once you and your family are deported
>>222195696>Wages scale to area 18k goes farther in Arkansas than New Hampshire.I guess this is sound if you care only about local goods and services. Not to mention that Arkansas is a shithole compared to NH.>What the US considers urban and the rest of the world isn't the same thing. If you're near a highway and have utilities they count you as urban. You can live in a suburb with a septic tank 100 miles from NYC inner city and still be counted as part of a metro area.We're mixing up urban and metro areas here.>Only like 10-15% lives in the major cities, like the actual areas you would consider cities not sprawling suburbs.Roughly 30% of Americans live in the dense, core municipal boundaries of major cities. Another 50% live in the surrounding suburban rings of those cities, and only about 20% live in truly rural areas.>Most of the country wouldn't live in suburbs if home ownership wasn't commonLiving in a suburb does not inherently mean you own a home. Corporate landlords (Blackstone or Progress Residential and similar ilk) have bought up entire suburban subdivisions to rent them out. Millions of people live in the suburbs because that is where the housing supply or schools are, but they are trapped renting single-family homes or suburban garden apartments.>It's not 30%Yes, it's 31%. Those 62 counties account for 31% of the U.S. population.
>>222197297>Metro and urbanMetro is closer to what people think of as urban, almost anything is classed as urban in the US including suburbs approaching rural areas. You'd have to almost be entirely in the woods to not be urban here.>30% of US lives in major citiesMetro areas, not the inner cities. Hardly anyone lives in the inner cities and metro areas can sprawl for hundreds of miles. The US is one of the least population dense countries in the world.>Homeless in suburbsThere's almost no rental apartments in the usual suburb and you'll never see homeless outside of cities, so if you live in one you're almost certain to either own a house or live with someone who does. If they don't own it then it's mortgage or rent, if someone is renting in a suburb it's more than not informal.>30%1% of those counties I showed you before are accountable for 42% of the crime. Of those 1% only 21% of the population resides. You're not looking at 62 counties you're looking at half that figure.
>>222196801>No it's because they're fundamentalists that ban abortion so people kill their babies rather than aborting them. That's why it's almost entirely consolidated in that area. There's no 'systemic' issues that reach the south due to their belief in state's rights.Well... the South has a higher baseline concentration of poverty. Sociological data confirms that county-level poverty is the single strongest predictor of high infant mortality, outranking individual health risks. Many southern states historically chose not to expand Medicaid eligibility under the Affordable Care Act, leaving millions of low-income pregnant individuals without early prenatal care. I've already mentioned maternal care deserts.I also partially agree with you in regards to abortion bans. There was a 5.6% increase in infant mortality rates in those states. However, the spike happened because women are forced to carry non-viable pregnancies. Tough luck if you get a retarded child that will live to the ripe old age of 3 and then die.
>>222197677I swear if you introduce even the most mild federal funded healthcare to them they'll start crying communism. There are foreign countries that listen more to the US federal government than dixie, they are not fully integrated.
>>222197647>There's almost no rental apartments in the usual suburb and you'll never see homeless outside of cities, so if you live in one you're almost certain to either own a house or live with someone who does. If they don't own it then it's mortgage or rentMillions of households rent in suburban environments. In fact, renters have recently become the absolute majority in over 200 major U.S. suburbs. Over 6 million households rent in suburban areas across the United States alone. In many suburban areas, renters make up an average baseline of roughly 30% of the population, and that number continues to climb as home prices shut people out of purchasing.Roughly 1 in 4 people experiencing homelessness lives in the suburbs and it's a massive and growing crisis. Do you know what hidden homelessness is? Like all those people who spend a suspiciously long amount of time in their cars?> if someone is renting in a suburb it's more than not informal.The overwhelming majority of suburban renting is completely formal, legal, and institutionalized.The suburban rental market is heavily driven by professional property management groups operating apartment complexes and corporate single-family rental (SFR) portfolios. Informal "under-the-table" arrangements do exist but they represent a small fraction of the suburban market.>1% of those counties I showed you before are accountable for 42% of the crime. Of those 1% only 21% of the population resides.Oh.I was only looking at the top 2%>>222197805McCarthyism did a real number on a portion of your society. Not to mention the weird (((Christian))) groups in the U.S.
>>222198442US rates of renting are comparable to Europe, it beats leasing land from state then pretending it's property ownership. And most homeless is in the cities despite the people who live in the actual cities (not the suburb or metro area) being rather small. Only like 20% of homelessness in the US is in suburbs, personally I've never seen it, but when I go into cities it's in your face constantly. None of this is concerning when you have a fraction of the population at large somehow experiencing more poverty than the vast majority of the country. The majority of suburban poverty is in the south from what I'm reading. Going by your reactions I'm guessing most of the problem with the US you have is with the south because every one of your complaints either leads there or in one of the big cities. Like you need to understand that dixie is effectively a third world country strapped to the rest of the US.
>>222192162Who the fuck would unironically support USoid Roman larp?The holy Roman empire was already a colossal laughable larp and it was a proper European territory
>>222192162>malding about Europeans again, thread #23785962378945623478956237845Get new material already.
>>222194681why are mutts so interested in relevance? globalism is so gay. talk about not having a culture
>>222192162Well, you could say every empire has its golden age, now it's the Chinese turn...We too were once an empire, and it fell spectacularly.
