So are they only muslim because their ancestors wanted a better trade deal on some rugs?
>>222253952Yes
>>222253952that's the same reason why you are christian
>>222253981they are christian because the swedes would have beheaded them if not
>>222254019the first christians in finland were merchants. swedes beheading finns took place long before the arrival of christianity and will continue long after the disappearance of christianity
>>222253952Whatever you prefer to believe
>>222253952AFAIK it was more wealthy arab merchants landed on the coast, quickly ingratiated themselves with some local princes, got them to convert and wage jihad on the rest and they started conquering.Glossing over lots of details ofc.Fairly based I have to admit.
>>222254129>>222253981we had crusades into finland, stop embarassing yourself paki
>>222254301Who's we?
>>222254349me and my brother on the viking line cruise
>>222254129>>222253952>>222254301what was the pre christian religion of finland?
>>222254361Yeah and we defeated you in air hockey.
>>222253952imagine what cool holiday place this have could been. now it is completely wasted.
>>222254383reindeer worship
>>222253952 >>222254411the alternative was being hindu
>>222254429Indians aside whats wrong with hinduism? i like the temples and statues.
>>222254429Bali is cool
>>222253952When did you realize Islam is actually the most peaceful Abrahamic religion? SEAs, West Africans, East Africans, Maldivians, Steppe monkes and Churkas all converted to Islam without ever being part of one of the central Islamic empires.
>>222254768I agree with this guy :)
>>222254768The most important parts of the steppes (silk road) were part of various caliphates. Bukhara and Samarkand were some of the most important islamic cities.
>>222257330They're not the steppe ackshually and in my post was specifically referring to nomadic monkes like Kazakhs, Tatars, etc and not settled cities in what is now Uzbekistan. Sorry for the confusion
>>222253952Conversions happen either through conquest and soft powerYour average Arab trader in the early medieval era were pretty loaded, to brown ooga booga islanders they're practically abandoning their old jungle ways in exchange of a newer, superior way of life
>>222257543>ooga booga islandersThey weren't Filipinos
>>222257748Indonesia has thousands more islands than us, they're not all that
>>222253952Malaysia.. what happened there
>>222258115Only Java and parts of Sumatra were temple builders. The rest were not that different from yours.
>>222258859Chindian sex
>>222253952Islam came to the region via Muslim traders from Yemen, India and China. The predominant strain was Sunni Sufi mysticism that jives well with the Nusantaran chill and relax Animist-Hindu-Buddhist beliefs of the region. Often, the ruling King converts to Islam and the populace follows suit (sounds familiar?). After the conversion, a large part of the previous beliefs remained in place as cultural traditions. E.g., the traditionak Malay wedding is very similar to a Hindu wedding except there is no walking around the fire. Also, a lot of the religious terms used in SEA Islam are of Sanskrit origins such as dosa (sin), pahala (reward), agama (religion), puasa (fasting). Even solat (prayers) are still called sembahyang (sembah = pray to; yang = deity).
>>222254019We converted because of the vatican ban on trade with pagans so by extension you end up with the same reasons really
>>222254768Arab priestly class invented wahabism in the 1800s while they were wigging out about the turks trying to modernize the empire and your claim really hasn’t been true ever since. Though yeah, in the middle ages and prior, muslim countries were objectively the most tolerant and multi religious
>>222254383Suomenusko
