Why arent you buddhist iyc?
>>222256594>Just stop caring about everything good in life using my simple plan to achieve Nirvana so you can finally die and not be reborn ever again - says formerly wealthy man who left his life behind to sit under a treeLol.
Voices in my head
>>222256799what do they tell you?
>>222256818Kill yourself
>>222256594because I prefer Hinduism's concept of reincarnation better. same soul, different vessel is more intuitive to understand than "there is no self, but also you inherit the karma of your past self" of Buddhism
>>222256594>alcohol is not prohibited
>>222256915why would it be lol
>>222256922Alcohol is generally harmful, and for some groups it poses a direct threat to development and survival. Considering that buddhism is a fairly flexible religion, it's surprising that none of its forms has ever banned alcohol. It's as if buddhism encourages it.
>>222257034What a retarded post kekAlso alcohol shouldnt be banned, it's great and you can drink in moderation. Anything is harmful if you have too much
>>222256862and why have you not listened?
>>222257319Do you want me to kill myself?
>>222257034AlsoA core tenant of Buddhism is the middle way - literally no asceticism or excessive indulgence. Banning alcohol because you cant practice the core tenant of the religion would be pretty much antithetical to the religion. There is only one religion on Earth that bans alcohol and it's literally the worst, most backwards and most harmful one of them all kek
>>222257295You probably don't know that different groups have different tolerances to alcohol. Alcohol isn't very dangerous for the dutch, but it's been a real disaster for native americans and siberians.
>>222256594I simply don't care enough
>>222257034you seem to fundamentally not understand the concept of the middle way
>>222256887Good mornig saar
The core teachings are solid but then there's also miracles, levitation, hell and heaven. You can remove all the religious elements if you want but you might as well call yourself a stoic if you do that
>>222256594Buddhism is a death cult. They want to eliminate all conscious thought on a spiritual level because "suffering exists". They have no actual solution for suffering other than that everyone should collectively reach a point of no longer thinking about it.
>>222256594>self-annihilation is the final goal of the religion >if you kill either of your parents it's anantarika-karma and you go to avici hell for (literally) quintillions of years even if the parent is an abuser but if a parent kills their kid its just like they killed a normal person >cursing is bad karma, pirating movies or games is bad karma, etc >no permanent heavens sorry bro (Buddha also remained silent when asked if they exist one time apparently) >samsara has no beginning (?????????) >theres actually no self or soul but you are reborn somehow and they can't explain it
>>222256915Abstention from intoxicants is one of the five precepts. Not just alcohol, but any substance that clouds the mind.No killing, no stealing, no lying, no sexual misconduct, no intoxicants.It's impossible to be someone who habitually engages in these things and also cultivate right views, right action of speech, body, and mind, mindfullness, meditative concentration, universal compassion.The precepts are the most basic and fundamental teaching of Buddhism. Anyone who tries to separate Buddhism from the precepts is languishing in attachment to the senses.
>>222259154>death cultThat's all religions. It is the point of a religion.
Almost no one cares about understanding people or ideas anymore. They equate "understanding" with "believing" or "advocating for" and take a stance of contention with everything, thinking that if they allow themselves to try to understand a different viewpoint at all then they are somehow giving in to the "other side" and losing an argument. All they care about is being correct and "winning."You don't even have to go to the teachings of the Buddha to learn that humans basically never perceive reality accurately and that clinging to an already-established view that "this is true and everything to the contrary is false" is a way we keep ourselves happy and safe and complacent, and nothing more.Even grifty self-help people like Scott Adams will teach you that. Physical sciences like quantum mechanics can approach it.Whether you have an affinity for the Buddhist teachings or not, it's a mark of a liberated mind to be able to entertain multiple opposing viewpoints at the same time. When we read about other views with the mindset of "What is this trying to say? How does this person percieve things? What is the value to be extracted here?" instead of "How can I prove this wrong? What holes can I poke in it? How can I show that I'm the correct one in this area?" then we have much greater potential for learning and growth and forming positive connections with other people.
>>222259196No, most religions are focused on escaping death/eternal life. Hinduism, for example, is all about embracing the act of reincarnation. Buddhism has contempt for it. And then there is Christianity, which seeks to eliminate death and suffering entirely.Buddhism is the religious version of suicide.
>>222259626If the goal of Buddhism were annihilation or suicide, then it would make sense for the Buddha to actively advocate for suicide as a noble act, or to say things like "it would be better if no beings existed at all," but He doesn't teach this because it's not the point. He also did not teach abstract metaphysical ideas like "the universe has such and such initial cause which is itself uncaused" or "when you die such and such specific part of you is reborn or goes to heaven or hell" because the point of the teaching is not to hand down a certain metaphysical interpretation of reality.The purpose of the teachings is to eliminate human suffering.And that's not to say that there is no metaphysics in Buddhist thought, but it's very deep and subtle and difficult to describe in language, and it's secondary or even tertiary to the main problem of learning to exist without suffering.And of course I'll be attacked for saying this like>you're talking nonsense>you obviously don't know anything about your own religion>you're trying to defend something ridiculous and undefensible>I was already right about metaphysics and have the correct understanding here, you're retarded and can't tell me I'm wrongBut when you get into those kinds of arguments what are you really doing? What are you defending?Not universal truth. Your own ego and righteousness.There is also truth in the Christian gospel and in the Hindu teachings. There is truth to be found everywhere if you see with open eyes.But if I tried to teach you that what you call "annihilation" is really no different from becoming like Christ and dwelling at the side of the Father, or willingly embracing the endless cycle of birth and death without attachment and discrimination, or Gnosis and merging with the non-duality of the Monad, how likely is it that you would recoil, try to say, "no, this set of beliefs I emotionally attached myself to are definitely correct and you can't tell me I'm wrong?"
>>222259626>Hinduism, for example, is all about embracing the act of reincarnationhow many hindus do you think would agree with you
I have my own ideology so I don't want to follow someone else's one even if there are some points that I agree with.
>>222256594i can't respect pajeet god
>>222256594oriental nonsense
>>222256594I don't like bald people
>>222256594i'm too lazy to study Buddhism. i came back from Japan promising myself i would study but i end up just sitting on my pc and shitposting on this very website
>>222256594It's funny just how much buddhist texts make christianity look like jewish shit it is.
