Why does Finland seem to have a better relationship with Sweden than with Russia when both countries ruled Finland at different points in history?
We bred a half-finnish ruling class in their country, Russia didn't.
>>222271073Take a guess.
>>222271104How are Finns seen in Sweden?
>>222271073because we haven't had any issues with Swedes since the Åland crisis over a century ago which we won>>222271104>ruling classnigga permanently stuck in 1890
>>2222713011890?
>>222272628Finland in the 19th century was a society where 99.9% of people who were in the upper echelons of society spoke Swedish but that's a long time past. If you look at the 100 wealthiest people in Finland now about a fifth are Swedish speaking.
Most good faith question.
>>222272906Even for government jobs?
swedes and finns were BROTHERS historicallynow and forever jarmo is my BROTHER
>please hate each other
>>222272906ummm this doesn't reinforce /int/'s obsession with ethnic minorities ruling the majority anon please delete this post
>>222273016government and military were Swedish speaking back then yes it started changing right after we got independence though
>>222273098I mean, how about now? Does knowing Swedish give you an advantage in Finnish society today?
>>222271073Nobody truly has good relationsship with russia, Belarus is puppetstate and China sees itselves better and would abond russia in a blink of eye Also Siberia Belongs To CHINA>>222271195[They love us like we were some animals, hidden racism they dont even understand
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>>222273171it does a little bit since it's easier to get jobs and university education etc that's why the vast majority of mixed language couples raise their children as Swedish speakers but even with all that it's not enough advantage to make them a fixed upper class it's just a little bonus really
Suomija (Finland) must return to Baltic.
>>222273171Does anything you learn in school give you an advantage in society today?
>>222273272yes
>>222273272Baltic should be part of Nordic
>>222271073We suffered greatly under rushan oppreshon in the 19th century. Even the swedish devil has never been that twisted
>>222271073We wouldn't make a thread like this
>>222273098Military in the 19th century was Russian.
>>222273766but the Finns who were a part of it as officers like Mannerheim were Swedish speaking
>>222273766Did the Russians blow shit up in Finland? They blew up Vilnius castle in the late 19th century with dynamite so it couldn't be used as a fortification in a rebellion
>>222273946https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Wrath#Atrocitiesthey treated us ok after that until the russification campaigns which destroyed any chance of us ever reconciling
>>222274298>Oh no they changed postal stamps to Russian and train directions in Russian inside of RUSSIA? I'm gonna heckin riot!!
>>222274335classic serbia post
>>222274377Why are you like this
>>222271073We never treated Finns badly, we love them and they love us.
>>222271073Sweden has better aura.
>>222274398Why is serbian sucking russian dick (that are most finno-ugric slavs) meanwhile being some genetical turks.Wake up and eat the Finnpill so you can stop fighting with made up demons.
>>222274398Why are you likes this
>>222274298Kek, checked the article in other languages, the Russian one is titled just "Finland in the Northern War", every other language uses a translation of the Finnish/Swedish nameru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Финляндия_в_Ceвepнoй_вoйнe
>>222274335Finland was never a part of Russia you fucking clueless retard
>>222274418How do you demonstrate that love?
>>222274704It was, grand duchy of finland was a title under Russian emperor, fucking mongoloid clown
>>222271073The problem with finns is that they never advanced properly, from the bronze age they were immediately civilised by more advanced people, this is why they still hold tribalistic views where they think kindness=weaknessSwedes ruled them with an iron fist and massive oppression, that's why they fear and rever them, Russians on the other hand are a force of humanism and civil society, thus finns viewed Russians as weak for being too kindFun fact, finnish criminal code is directly borrowed from Russian empire
I do not know the history of Northern Europe in detail, but Sweden likely gaslighted Finland and the Finnish people after World War II, just as the United States gaslighted South Korea and Japan. In South Korea and Japan, it is common for people who openly criticize the US to face internal criticism as well, and to be branded as communists or pro-China or pro-North Korea. For this reason, those who criticize the US in South Korea and Japan suffer from a pathetic narrative that they are "Stupid people who insult the US, which protects us from evil neighbors"
>>222271073Sweet swedish poontang
>pws hate each other. looking pretty bad.
>>222277744>For this reason, those who criticize the US in South Korea and Japan suffer from a pathetic narrative that they are "Stupid people who insult the US, which protects us from evil neighbors"this is really embarrassingthere are quite a few trashy people among politicians in south korea and japan for whom flattering america and americans is their pride and honor
>>222277460cringe post pyotr
>>222277460Our legal codes and systems are from Sweden, nice try though.
>>222278149>Interestingly, the current Finnish Criminal Code remains formally the same code of 1889, although it has been repeatedly revised and supplemented over more than a hundred years. The original preamble still mentions Alexander III as the Grand Duke of Finland.
>>222277744An interesting fact.
>>222277744>I do not know the history of this region, here's what happened there anywaysweden didn't even participate in WW2, meanwhile Germany had over 200K soldiers fighting alongside the Finns during the continuation war (for reference, the amount of Swedish volunteers numbered ~1K)
>>222273272topor sounds better imho.
>>222278899Axe?
>>222279929Yes.
Finland was always more close to Sweden culturally albeit there was of course some Russian influenceif Russia didnt try to assimilate us and make us die for Russia and if the Soviet Union never happened then we might still be loyal to the czarthe matter of the fact is that Alexander II's statue is still in the most important square in Finland in front of the most important church together and the question of removing it has never been a thing no matter how "russophobic" things become. Lenin statues get removed everywhere but not hisyou can only wonder why? hmmm.....
>>222280578So Finns deep down are all monarchists?
>>222281343after civil war the ruling whites wanted a king and the king was already chosen and he was all ready to go but he was German and Germans lost WW1 and lost their major power status so we became a republicthe real thing is that Finns are very conformists and Finns are used to get orders from big states and big figures...that is also why the president still has so much respect and power even if he is virtually almost stripped from all of it post-Kekkonen
>>222281413>Kekkonenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjt-AeJkzf0
>>222281512kekkonenkim il sung
>>222271073Who would be afraid of feminist country aka Sweden without a nuclear bomb? contrary to swedes, smell of the barbaric Putin's testosterone makes finns nervous.
>>222281667Krim IP gets Turkish flag??
>>222281667I found the most funniest picture in my computer
>>222281727I don't get it.
>>222281981the sign says fascist Hollandthe Turkish diaspora got really mad when the Dutch government banned Erdogan from campaigning in the NetherlandsTurkish nationalists in the picture are stabbing oranges (the symbol of the Dutch) while teary eyed as a protests
>>222273035is putte possun nimipäivä from sweden? :3
>>222278298only russian thing in the laws is alexanders name in the opening phrase of the criminal code because he was the one who signed it into action, but the laws are based on Swedish civil code of 1734
>>222282153Just a common nickname. Felt fitting.
>>222281567Did they ever met each other?
Isoviha, etc. It's not just WW2.
>>222281413I'm very bothered by the kekkonen national park on google maps being listed as kekkosen, i have sent in a report telling google to change it many times but they never do
>>222283766Probably is a typo from the very early Google Maps and they just don't want to bother.
>>222283766>>222286335Kekkosen is correct, not a typo
>>222277460It's always funny seeing that Russians are still so butthurt about Finns that their anuses are like giant black holes where all reason escapes.
>>222283766>>222286335It's in genitive."Kekkosen" means "Kekkonen's".
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Wrath>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_(1741%E2%80%931743)>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_War>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Nikolay_Bobrikov>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification_of_Finland>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimosodat>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Operation_of_the_NKVD>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_the_Ingrian_Finns>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_partisans_in_Finland>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finlandization
>>222274474>>222274478Why are finns such raging interracial porn obsessed homosexuals? Is it the Swedish influence?
>>222290024>Russian accusing anyone of homosex
>>222287259>>222288755Very cool thanks
>>222271073
>>222271073We have a Swedish oligarchy, not Russian. There is your answer.
>>222291845we don't though
