Is addiction rampant in your country?I'm a recovering alcoholic. I am now a Röökijäbä and sex addict. Only with my wife but I need sex 3-4 days a weak or else I get miserable.
>>222385936How are you an alcoholic, just stop drinking
>>222386071I believe he hasn't drank in years, it's just a quirk of Anglo culture that they tend to call themselves alcoholics indefinitely if it becomes an issue once. Presumably to remind themselves that if they get a couple of drinks in the future, it could start all over again
>>222386344Many years. But I could even drink a Finn under the table at my worst. 1.14 litres of whiskey a day.
>>222386344Americans are so pretentious, they love to self diagnos themselves with fake mental shit
>>222386427Well, I get where you're coming from but I think it's also true that for some people, once they have a couple or a few the binge easily starts all over again. So it's not that unreasonable
>>222386427Alcohol use disorder is a real thing. Basically what happens is your brain gets completely rewired due to addiction. In my experience, once you get addicted to something, you'll be chasing other, less intense addictions for the rest of your life. Many get addicted to God after getting clean, as they need something.If I didn't have one or multiple addictions, I feel unfulfilled in my life.
>>222386492All it takes is one. Most of us can't stop after that. Last time I relapsed it only lasted a couple months, thankfully. But my worst run was 4 years straight, blacking out every single night.
I can't get sex at all so can't even get addicted.
>>222386518I'm curious, did you get delirium tremens, either treated or untreated, often? Certainly sounds like you must have
>>222386582Yes, many times. The first time was the worst.It's extremely uncomfortable. I can go into detail if you want. But imagine having a panic attack 24/7, having bugs crawling on your skin, shaking like a leaf, and having terrifying hallucinations. Plus more.Thankfully no seizures, but that was just because I had Valium in me.
>>222386621Did it take the one or two days after drinking I've heard it takes for the symptoms to appear
>>222386582I didn't go into serious withdrawal when I quit, but that is because I quit gradually, and it was a hepatologist who told me to do it this way. At the time I was having twelve drinks a day, the next day I had 11, then 10 and so on until it was zero. I had some mild anxiety and insomnia while doing this but nothing as bad as DT's or seizures. In around three weeks I felt no physical need to drink, but I was still kind of lost emotionally for a while, that took a few months to get over but I did.
>>222386763Sounds like the final boss of discipline
>>222386696In my case I was drunk 24/7 for 4 years. My BAC probably never dropped below 0.10. I would wake up still drunk and then keep drinking.As soon as I got almost sober, withdrawal would start setting in. Full blown delirium tremens usually would start around 18-24 hours after my last drink. Usually I was smart enough to go to the hospital for withdrawal meds. But one time I wasn't and I almost lost control of reality.
>>222386763This is not me, not OP, but good job. There's no way I could've ever tapered my usage.
>>222386696I'm not the guy you replied to but I am also a "recovering" alcoholic. Back when I was drinking hard I could get panic attacks after just 8 hours of not having a drink, waking up in the morning was hard so I always had at least one drink as an eye-opener. My understanding is that the serious symptoms like DT's and seizures to start around the 3 day mark. Like I said in a previous post I didn't go through that because I quit in a controlled way under the advice of a medical specialist.
>>222386839Everyone is different. Some can feel ok after a few days and then have a seizure. For me it was usually less than a day. But I was only 130 pounds and slamming 25+ drinks a day.
>>222386798>>222386825Like I said I was seeing a hepatologist, as in a liver doctor. You don't just make an apportment with those, I got sent there because my liver was fucked. I didn't want to die so I took his advice very seriously and followed through.
>>222386889I got very lucky. I was in it for about 5 years but I drank shit like rubbing alcohol and hand sanitizer a few times. All my testing came back fine.Rubbing alcohol was really strong, and gave you a hell of a hangover. One shot felt like 4 shots of regular liquor.
>>222386887Fuck, even at my worst I couldn't handle 25 a day. I didn't even think my drinking was all that bad, I have a high tolerance and 12 is nothing to me, I wasn't getting blackout drunk, just drinking to feel normal.
>>222386949Yeah 12 beers was nothing for me. Eventually I started buying more then just switched to whiskey. It wasn't cutting it anymore.I remember one time i accidentally bought an 18 pack of light beer instead of regular. I didn't even feel drunk and I drank the whole pack that night.
>>222385936>3-4 days a weakNigga that's pretty normal
>>222386949>>222387012I would drink like half a liter of vodka a day for a couple of years. But not over the whole day but rather "rynnäkkökännit" which freely translated would be something akin to "assault drinking", i.e. downing as much alcohol as fast as possible for maximum impact. Then a friend invited me on a several-weeks-long roadtrip and I remember how at the start of it I would be panicking internally while keeping a poker face, lol. I was very much thinking about possible withdrawal symptoms. In the end nothing happened, we even had a couple drinks midway through the roadtrip and by the end of it when he was asking "should we get a couple of drinks" I'd be going "nah that's just a waste of money really"
>>222387194You got lucky, Finnbro. Although you probably weren't drinking enough for the DTs.
>>222387237Yep, in hindsight I've been thinking it must have had something to do with spending just a few hours at it per day, not all day. So I probably did spend much/most of the day sober. But I do remember seeing a lot of unpleasant dreams and waking up to feelings of anxiety. And I did feel some of that anxiety just sitting in the passenger seat of a car as it would have been too awkward to be buying a bottle of vodka every one or two days in that social setting (I never told anyone about my habit)
I am dead inside
>>222387465Yeah, that certainly helped. The trick to avoid withdrawals, or even just bad withdrawals, is to not drink all day every day.Even my dad who drank only at night(albeit less than me) only had minor withdrawals. And he still drank 12 beers a day.I was focused on drinking as much as possible, as fast as possible, all the time. Usually I didn't really remember a couple hours after starting to drink. I'd drink so fast and so much I would just black out. Then I'd wake up the next day, usually on the floor, with more than half of my giant bottle of booze gone.
>>222387573Actually find it funny to this day when I went into the sauna after a couple of weeks and there was a completely inexplicable and mysterious empty bottle of vodka there. No idea where it could have come from
>>222387621Does every Finn just own a sauna in their backyard?
>>222387636I live in the shittiest quality apartment on earth that was built in 2001, but the one single positive about apartments built since, I don't know, the 1970's is that they have their own sauna as default
>>222385936Even the addicts here are slowly going cold turkey because everyone is broke
>>222386805I know a guy, his whole family's alcoholic, and his brother tried to quit cold turkey and went into a coma. He recovered from the coma at some point but was then on some kind of antidepressants, I don't know the full details if it was alcohol related or suicide but he passed away a couple years after.
>>222385936>>222386404>>222386805>>222386518>>222386919but alcohol tastes bad? it's gross and your throat hurts when swallowing.i don't understand how you can be so retarded you can't stop drinking solvents.
>>222388368BecauseNumbs your shit and does give you a dopamine hitSimple as
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