>most norwegians write in Danish instead of Norwegianwhy?
The real Norwegians died of the plague and got replaced by Danes.
>>222435526because Norway was a Danish colony for 500 years o algo
>>222435526Trøndersk should be the main written dialect
>>222435561there's no way they ALL died.
>>222435526What version predominates in their general?
>>222435701bokmål
>>22243567760-65% plus a high rate of death among the nobles which left a bunch of illiterate peasants to be fucked over by their Danish masters.
>>222435526at start of the 1800s the official written language of norway was a form of danishthen in the 1840s some guy started wandering the countryside and eventually constructed what he thought was a pure form of norwegian without any danish influencethis became popular and the norwegian government recognized both it and the old danish-derived form as official written standards of the languagethen in the 1930s the government tried to merge the two forms into a single intermediate form and everyone hated it so they never tried againthe end
>>222435905why couldn't they impose one or the other?just change it in school and eventually everyone will grow up with one standard
>>222435526Which of these is wholesome trad chungus 100 and which is soy and cringe?,
>>222435973nynorsk is associated with progressive politics and bokmal with conservative politicstrying to impose one or the other would result in the government that does it militarizing the segment on the other side that cares about dialect issues and probably losing the next electionmerging the two dialects was attempt to get around this but all it did was cause the nynorsk and bokmal supporters to team up against iteven today there are gigachuds who use the even-more-danish than bokmal "riksmal" when writing and gigasoys who use an even more progressive variant of nynorsk whose specific name I don't remember
>>222436095They should abandon norwegian and adopt english
>>222435526There's no such thing as Danish or Norwegian, they're both dialects of Scandinavian.
>>222436095weird that conservatives and gigachuds want to follow a standard based on a foreign country, aren't they supposed to be all about nativism and muh ancestral national values
>>222436120they should abandon norwegian and RETVRN to old norse.
Yeah it's very sad and frustrating Also all scandinavian languages have a lot of low german in them, low german ruined scandinaviaIf only Norway had kept writing Old Norse
>>222436172linguistic revival in 1840s europe was a progressive thing about the language of the peasantry being used over that of the aristocracy that happened alongside the liberal revolutions of the same erathe same thing happened with czech versus german and hungarian versus latin around the same time but those didn't become an enduring political divide in their countries for reasons which should be obvious
>>222436220fascinating stuff I think it's cool if each place values its local language as much as possible, shame that it became a political issue
>>222435526Thanks Doc
>>222436120Aren't all scandis in the process of doing that anyway?
>>222436700you're next
>>222436167what's scandinavian
>>222435526Because Vestland is Bestland and the rest are SS4TDP
>>222435526norway has more dialects than people, bokmål is neutral towards them it not based on one or a few dialects. nynorsk is based upon west coast dialects meaning for me, not a west coaster, its actually further from me than bokmål.the whole point with an official written language is to have one single common denominator thats equal for all of us, but noo them hipster snowflake westcoasters couldnt have that. fuck nynorsk.
>>222435973Because we have democracy imc
>>222440236>nynorsk is based upon west coast dialectsNot true by the way, especially not in the 19th and early 20th centuries.
which one is closer to old norse, nynorsk or bokmål?
>>222440425Either are as close to norse as modern english is to ænglisc. They are in different branches of the scandinavian language family though, nynorsk being closer to icelandic and faroese, which all derive from the western branch of the norse language. This also applies to all norwegian dialects besides the newer "standard østnorsk" that developed in the 20th century.
which dialect do Norwegian Arabs and Turks prefer? do they usually assimilate into bokmal or nynorsk culture?
>>222440596Local dialect + loan words. Language training classes depend on municipality, though all major cities use bokmål.
>>222440632>Local dialectdo you still have those? im jealous thenmust be cool not to be able to understand that guy from the village 5 km east, that feels so...European
>>222440370plenty of democratic european countries did nation building by suppressing dialects and adopting a unified standard, I don't think the two are mutually exclusive necessarily
speak danish
what did Danes feel when their formerly poorest province that had got independence out of pity so Denmark wouldn't have had to support them suddenly found oil and became richer and more developed than Denmark? seriously looks like a deal as bad as Russia selling Alaska
>>222440837i honestly wonder what's the point of having basically identical countries separated, wouldn't swedes, danes and norgies benefit from being a single more powerful country? they're all the same anyway, the same could be said about poland and the czech republic
>>222440888because if sweden and denmark united (norway is just a pendant) it would shift the power structure from stockholm to scania. st*ckholmers would never agree to that
>>222440888that's what we have the EU for (idk about Norway tho, I guess they just don't want to share their money with anyone else)
>>222440952what are the relations between Copenhagers and Stockholmers, is there any kind of rivalry? which city is generally regarded as better to live?
>>222440952i don't see why, the political power would still be held in cities, what cities there are in scania? malmo?stockholmers could be easily outvoted by the rest of sweden i assume
>>222440888Norwegians and Swedes are 8 times more likely to post on 4chan than Danesthey are not the same people in terms of autism
>>222440888would you unite with France or Spain?
>>222441015Denmark doesn't really feel Scandinavian desu, even Estonia feels more Scandi than them. Danes are mentally "continentals" and much more similar to Germans than they are to Swedes. Idk if it makes them angry but that's just true.
>>222441029Italy already did it, difference between a south and north Italian is greater than these other countries he mentioned
>>222441029i wouldn't mind a massive france/italy/spain/portugal union but the differences between french/spain and italy are much bigger, in fact italy has populations that are much more different than scandis are to each other
>>222440979there's no relations between them. internationals usually prefer copenhagen for its higher wages and europeanness, but stockholm is prettier and has nature.>>222440998scania and parts of southern sweden used to be danish and norwegian. the centralisation and rule from stockholm was necessary to swedishfy those regions. even to this day, the swedish government overlook cross-country development between scania and zealand as it would push parts of southern sweden into copenhagen's hemisphere
>>222441050most important difference is that Danish houses are usually made of bricks, hardly ever would you spot a wooden hut therethat alone makes them non-Scandi enough, but there are many other things as well, their cuisine and lifestyle overall are totally German, their national culture is about being either a farmer or a merchant, they have no "strong lumberjack living alone in his hut in the middle of nowhere and not caring about the outer world" national myth which is the core myth for Scandi mentality. Generally they don't have this cult of physical strength other Scandis have. That's why you almost don't see Dolph Lundgren types in Denmark.
i'd like to remind everyone scandinavia is a concept much older and deeper than disney vikings living in snowy mountains
>>222441198yet somehow the difference between Zealand and Scania is greater than between Scania and Lapland, how will you explain it?
>>222441279definitely not
>>222441148Scania should be part of Denmark desu, makes no sense that it should be ruled from Stockholm when Copenhagen is just across the water
>>222441279> yet somehow the difference between Zealand and Scania is greater than between Scania and LaplandLmao
