No more brother wars
>>222469592of course the pole wants lwow and wilno back
>>222469592'obson would be more brown DOE
>>222469592
You can have everything you want in the East, as long as we get some peak fucking borders in our East.
>>222469592How similar are Germans and Poles? As a Frenchman I always assumed they're basically the same
>>222470344Germans race narcissism will never permit to admit this but they're mostly the same and in fact those with more German blood have dark hair and brown eyes while those more aryan looking germans are mostly slav with a little bit of scandi. Culturally we're very different with the exception of some cuisine cross-over like the fondness for fermented cabbage, loaves of bread, pork knuckles and sausages.
>>222470668>Culturally we're very differentHow so?
>>222470344>As a Frenchman I always assumed they're basically the same?
>>222469592We have never had a war with Poland doeevernit
>>222470725You have the same weird eastern barbarian vibes. You both have square blonde heads and never smiled a day in your lives.
>>222470684Well for example they will be nice and polite to strangers, do all the "good manners" song and dance, while in Poland we're all like this :| and we barely talk to people we don't know and when we do we will skip the manners and get to the point immidietly. Westies in general see this as rude but we just don't see any practicality in that and it's not in fact rudeness, it's just very direct. Other than that Germans are superficially accepting while secretly certoonishly convinced of their superiority over everyone else while we can be superficially racist but we have no racial ego and we can be friends with anyone of any race or nationality and see them as equally valuable human beings. We're also very seriously catholic and Germans are I don't know what, their interpretation of Christianity seems to be "just be nice and have empathy". Priests I know that went to Germany to preach says the Germans were shocked that He was actually calling out sins and telling them that they should try to be better in daily life. For them Christianity is some sort of cozy hug box and for us it's a punishing task of combating our own shittiness.
>>222469592yeahyeahyeah they're reactivating prussia as we speak
>>222470344both germans and poles will never admit that there's a continuity between the two countries, west poles are very germanic and east germans are very slavic
>>222469592>continued peace in Europe? We don't do that IN GERMANY
>>222472644How do we solve this issue?
>>222469592Tell that to your countrymen. I personally did not held bad feelings towards current Poland and Poles but Poles themselves seems to think otherwise
>>222469854>>222470786I see that Goebbels is raping some minds even from beyond the grave>>222470735True, your current iteration of Germania never genocided us>>222472644Ja, natürlich!
>>222472644Praying every day for another chudout
>>222472674This seems like a modest proposal.
>>222470344Couldn't be more different. I think the Germany-Poland border crossing is probably the most diverse change you will experience in Europe
>>222472754You're actively trying to economically vassalize our country through EU institutions, why would we ever see you as friends
>>222472944See that's what I'm talking about. Tell me your idea for development of Polish economy without German input I wait
>>222471778how does that even remotely make sense? western poles are transplants from lithuania and galicia while the entire population of the original east germans has been completely subsumed in western germany>>222470668this is simply not borne out by the facts. consult any graph on the topic made in a published book. blondism historically peaked on the baltic coast in that area and in fact in general, and poles were mostly inlanders by 1900
>>222472837My proposal: let's combine the areas of northern Poland and eastern Germany into one new, experimental Polish-German state and see what comes out of it (let's just leave Poland some corridor so that it has access to the sea)
>>222472674>How do we solve this issue?Solve? Hmm... we dissolve Germany?
I want a world where there's only brother wars.
>>222473067It was called Kingdom of Prussia and you probably know how it went. Please no more such things anymore
>>222473103Sorry, that doesn't fit the blueprint.
>>222473903>everybody can fight war except GermanyWorld War narrative brainrot
>>222472837>stopping at the Urals and not marching on to the Pacific Ocean.America didn't stop at the Appalachians or Rockies.
>>222469592deutschland does not have this
>>222469592If I my brother was a Pole, I wouldn't have a brother
>>222478442the Pole would be your father
>>222472644>continued peace in Europe? We don't do that IN France
>>222472944
>>222479117>we gave you spare change why won't you give your country to shitskinsFuck off
>>222479689>when I join I club I only want to get the benefits without fulfilling any of the associated tasks
>what was nazi plan with polish population>4. Long-Term Depopulation >In the long term, once the war was won, the Nazis intended to either drive the remaining Polish population eastward to Siberia or systematically work them to death. Within 15–20 years, they wanted the region to become an entirely German territoryBrutal, I thought at least the German consider the Poles as fellow white people.
>>222480034are you quoting refugees in germany?
>>222479117every fucking timeafter some of them you realize you shoulf never support them>>222480080look at today Polish political debate and their mood and tell we were wrongwell fuck Shitler and his goons unironically but we weren;'t
>>222473103Let's draw a new lines in the east then you get a nice chunk of access into the black sea like once before :) hohols will not mind if that means getting EU entry and Moldova will finally be able to get their fictional transnistrian occupied state back as well the thousand Russians will be asked kindly to leave, any questions/objections?!
>>222479092>breaking my inbreeding encirclement and what do you mean I can't have every crown in existence? WE DON'T DO THAT IN GERMANY! Wait, is Germany a thing yet?
>>222480106It's a paraphrase of your national ideology of Gibcz Meyn Datwicz.
1980s West Germany must have been extremely kino and a paradise overall. I like watching videos from that period on youtube, this vibe cannot be matched even by the 1980s America, maybe only Italy stands close. Stable thriving economy, influential culture, coherent society. I wish I could have lived there.
>>222469592BASED
>>222480608>Wait, is Germany a thing yet?Has been for about 600 years, Benjamin
>>222481928>600 years??????????
>>222481989>1631sorry, 800 years
>>222470344>How similar are Germans and Poles?Germany is quite diverse itself, Poles and east Germans have a lot in common (even if the latter deny it) but west Germans are a different thing and probably more similar to the French.But well, enough to say that a quarter-Polish woman ruled Germany for 20 years and no one really minded her origin or thought that she could be considered "non-German". I don't think it's possible (to the same extent) with a politician of Turkish origin, for example.
>>222470344All of East Germany is just Lechian tribes that weren't taken over by Piasts, or straight up just Piasts that separated during the HRE-ification of Poland and weren't re-united by the time Jagiellons took over
>>222482016
>>222482104hello why did you laugh at his post, was it funny? i dont get it
>>222482104Illiterates that think people in 17th century Germany would say that Germany doesn't exist are genuinely embarassing.Shove your reaction pic up your bacha bussy
>>222482159oh, he was laughing AT you, not WITH you
>>222482204Ignorant people laughing about knowers. It's common.
>>222482237i dont think he's ignorant, he's probably really smart and educated
>>222482248>he's probably really smart and educatedHe thinks that Germany didn't exist in the 17th century. No intelligent person believes that.
>>222482159You sound like a typical Prussian: a violent homo with pent-up anger. Btw, the Bavarian gentleman here >>222482248 is right.
>>222482282he sounds kinda hot>>222482302how did you know :D
>>222482302You sound like a typical retarded pseudo intellectual faggot.
>>222472985>western poles are transplants from lithuania and galicia while the entire population of the original east germans has been completely subsumed in western germanyNot exactly true, first of all, western Poland is not just the former German Ostgebiete but also the region that belonged to Prussia before WW1 and was mostly inhabited by Poles and these people generally remained where they are and retained their cultural traits, largely copied from Germans. And in contrary to the common stereotype, it was not Lithuanians and Galicians, but actually people from Greater Poland and Silesia, to repopulate the German lands we acquired after 1945.In the attached map, red is the regions inhabited by people from central Poland (other than the lands annexed by the USSR after WW2) in 1950. Meanwhile yellow is the region where people from Lithuania/Galicia were the majority and there's only one region like that.There were actually relatively few Poles resettled into Poland from the Eastern Borderlands, first - because there were few of them there overall, second - because they were subjected to genocide (like by UPA) and third - because many of them didn't choose to move to Poland after WW2 (that's why Poles are still the majority around Vilnius for example).
>>222482309Smart gentlemen recognize one another.>>222482328I'm actually surprised you didn't go all the way with your LARP and claim 10th century Kingdom of Germany title for your seething homo rage.
>>222482396If you went to 17th century Germany and told them Germany would only come into existence in a century or two you would get sent to a insane asylum do you realise that
>>222482016Isn't germany like a 1870s invention by Bismark after he defeated Austria?
>>222482449If you are literally fucking braindead, and you think that those retarded cumguzzling faggot midwit teachers teach you anything sufficient at school or youtube, you may just believe it
>>222482449Germany - yesGermans - no>>222482426in 17th century Austria or Bohemia were definitely seen as part of the German realm, in 19th century already not - that's what Bismarck did while going for the Kleindeutschland option.
>>222482533the german realm is just a stategermany is where germans livehalf of the FRG isn't even Germany anymore
>>222480608>Nooooo you can't just marry this family!!!1!!
>>222482426Thanks Gemini:>While modern Germany wasn't unified as a single political state until 1871, the concept of Germany was already centuries old by the 1600s.>In 1512, the massive, decentralized territory covering Central Europe officially updated its title to Heiliges Römisches Reich Deutscher Nation. >The people living there spoke dialects of German. They referred to their region as Deutschland or Teutschland.>If you told a 17th-century German that Germany didn't exist, he would likely point to the ground and tell you that you were standing in it.>When people today say "Germany didn't exist until 1871," they mean the centralized, unified nation-state birthed by Otto von Bismarck. But a 17th-century person wouldn't even understand the 19th-century concept of a "nation-state." >Their political reality was a patchwork quilt of over 300 secular and ecclesiastical principalities, duchies, and free cities. They were subjects of local princes and the Holy Roman Emperor. To them, "Germany" wasn't a centralized government; it was the shared cultural and political ecosystem they lived inside every day.>As for being dragged off to an insane asylum: that is modern hyperbole. In the 1600s, clinical psychiatric hospitals as we know them didn't really exist. There were a few Tollhäuser (madhouses) or monastic care facilities, but they were reserved for severe, unmanageable cases.>If you stood in a town square rambling about the non-existence of Germany and 19th-century nation-states, you wouldn't be institutionalized. You would most likely be dismissed as a Narr (a fool) or a town drunk. At worst—since the 17th century was ravaged by the brutal, religiously fueled Thirty Years' War—spouting weird, disruptive political theories to strangers might get you accused of heresy or espionage, which carried much harsher penalties than an asylum.WE WUZ logic. By that logic, Iran is 5000 years old because the Indo-Iranians that settled it called these lands Iran.
>>222482620>By that logic, Iran is 5000 years old because the Indo-Iranians that settled it called these lands Iran.And that statement would make perfect sense.
>>222482568>t.
>>222480291Bro it was merkel's decision to bring in the migrants and from the start we said it was stupid and you didn't listen and now you want us to bare the burden of your stupidity. Not gonna happen and you are in the wrong here. Cope and seethe.
>>222469592Memes aside, who has a more legitimate claim to eastern Prussia?
>>222482670SHEEEIT, I guess WE truly finna WUZ KANGZ.>>222482713The actual Prussians: the Baltic tribes that got genocided by Teutonic fags.
>>222482753>the Baltic tribes that got genocided by Teutonic fags.The balts tried to enslave germans so we just eradicated themThe arabs tried to enslave iranians and today you worship themI think you are just jealous.
>>222470956Why does every western nation considere its eastern neighbour to be barbaric? Iberians are exception probably.
>>222482449No. And if you want to go by the founding date of modern states, then Poland was founded in 1989.>>222482620>By that logic, Iran is 5000 years old because the Indo-Iranians that settled it called these lands Iran.Yes. Isn't it generally agreed upon that Iran is one of the oldest civilisations on earth?>>222482671Perhaps you should be more likeable and loveable. Oh wait; you ARE!!!
>>222482768>The balts tried to enslave germans so we just eradicated themUnironically using WE immediately outs you as a seething faggot making shit out of your ass.>The arabs tried to enslave iranians and today you worship them>I think you are just jealous.Yet another ad hominem. I accept your concession.>>222482789They inherited the Gayreek and later Romonkey inferiority complex.
>>222482886>Unironically using WE immediately outs you as a seething faggot making shit out of your ass.My ancestors are from west Prussia niggas>Yet another ad hominemIt's not an ad hominem, retard
>>222482713Perhaps Lithuania as the Old Prußen language is closely related to it. Fun fact, said language only died out in Prussia during the 17th century and ethnically the Old Prußen got assimilated by Germans, Poles and Lithuanians.
>>222482869>Yes. Isn't it generally agreed upon that Iran is one of the oldest civilisations on earth?If we're going that far, then we should also WE WUZ as those sheep shaggers in 5000 BCE that left Crimea to spread around the world.>Perhaps you should be more likeable and loveable. Oh wait; you ARE!!!Where are these cousins for me to fuck then? Oh wait, in your mind! Nice meme image btw.>>222482909>My ancestors are from west Prussia niggasYou do sound black. Are you a Tyrone?>It's not an ad hominem, ad hominem Holy SHEEEIT, you are black!
>>222482987what do modern Germans think about East Prussia?imo it's overly romanticized in German nationalist discourse, yeah, Konigsberg had a renowned university but that's basically all to that, other than this - it was a poor, rural province with a semi-feudal system still in the 1930s and massive emigration to western Germany for better life. >t-that's because the corridor separated them from the rest of Germanyno, these trends existed already before WW1 also the Prussian junckers were the main reason for Germany joining WW1 and in a sense WW2 too, whole German militarism came from there
>>222469592No , I want both of them to fight so that their refugees come here. Ukranian women have been a blessing
>>222469592TOTAL GERMAN LOVE
>>222483041Yes, it is also well known that your kind has "relations" with caprinae.>Where are these cousins for me to fuck then? Fucking your other cousins because (you) are an unlovable stupid 4channer incel chud! >>222483170>what do modern Germans think about East Prussia?Not much at least where I live. Apparently there is a rising interest in properly processing the expulsion of the Germans from the eastern territories within an academic context (based on the few newspaper articles I've read about this) as previously this topic wasn't as popular. >German militarismI genuinly don't get this meme. Other states were just as if not more militaristic as Germany throughout history. Yes, the rural prussian nobility was conservative and often were prominent members of the military - this is true for practically all of the european nobility.
>>222483666Kek, seething germshit faggot homo retard projecting his fetishes and canine family. The mask really fell.Didn't even read your copium wall of text, you subhuman filth.
>>222483382bit gay don't you think?
>>222483801Don't deny your history. It's the only thing you have left besides exporting shitty drones to Russia.
>>222483936I'm not the one wewuzzing here and barking like a violent homo to make up for his inferiority complex (and very likely his micropenis) like your homo hero Frederick the Gay.S A DAD
>>222483826Let's not stigmatize brotherly affection
>>222484020I know what textual means.
>>222484078Okay, Anakin.
>>222474343You also didn't do that in under a decade.
>>222469592NIGGA. why am I not included you fucking worthless slav.
>>222484452
>>222470344germans are just self hating poles that think they can trick someone by saying they are different than poles, that they have different mentality because they were born under reich flag nothing is more polish than hate towards poles
>>222484452most germans probably have no idea about Memel (they don't sing that part of their anthem anymore) and that a chunk of Lithuanians are culturally germanized&protestant
>>222469854Bodied that freak