I am back from Asia, I tried to talking to them, I am like the modern Marco Polo. So here are my findings on their culture and psychology>KoreansMost insufferable people on the continent, immediately start talking about how many girls they pulled (bro we are in Thailand), then they all go on about women or hypergamy or incel talking points like SMV or looksmaxxing. Talking to Koreans is like talking to Clavicular. They remind me of Americans in that they are extremely superficial, full of themselves and into dick measuring contests, maybe they'd get along with USAians. But I would rather kill myself than talk to a Korean again.>JapaneseVery avoidant they barely talk to you. They aren't even in their country they give you the gaijin seat in a restaurant. Fake nice and polite.However, once drunk, they can be funny and easy going. I would not talk to a Japanese unless he has 1g/l, and anyways I could not since they literally run away from foreigners, actually insane. Too xenophobic to be talked to in the first place.>ChineseSurprisingly the only nice people I found in the Orient. Educated and very, very, politicized, 1 minute in they all start asking your opinion about the war in Ukraine and arguing a lot with you with no filter. They drink ungodly amounts of alcohol and chain smoke, friendly, welcoming, actually interesting and nice to be around unlike the other two. Realistically the only ones you can befriend.Conclusion : the media lied to us, the ones they presented as bad guys are the only salvageable ones over there. Our "allies" in Asia are assholes actually, especially the Koreans.
>>222714719It sounds like you went to Asia and only talked to the men. The fuck is wrong with you?
>>222714813Sure I had sex with the women but it obviously does not lead to any interesting conversations or cultural observations, women everywhere have nothing interesting to say in general. Women are generally kind of the same everywhere on earth.
don't get along well with Americans, either; everything is censored and controlled... This fucking, trashy country doesn't get along with any people. Dying is the only answer. The one and only thing it excels at—ranking number one—is churning out posts that hate men.
To be honest if you look past the bad manners like sneezing without covering their mouth, burping, chewing with their mouth open, talking loudly, and general ugliness (poorly dressed, skinny fat, ricecel haircut), the Chinese are definitely the most personable East Asians to talk to.Japanese and Koreans seem so awkward and unwilling to have a real conversation in comparison.
>>222715222The boomer thing of making a crop top with their t shirt to show they are well fed and skinnyfat is weird nglI do like the fact they eat anything that moves though, because I'm French and I do too. I got to dip frogs in a hot pot and, while I prefer ours (they are stir fried coated in garlic/flour/breadcrumbs with lemon and parsley), it is nice to see a cuisine that eats anything that moves
>>222714984>don't get along well with Americans, eitherWell, the saying goes "You don't put two roosters in the same barnyard"
>>222714719Did you talk to other Europeans?
>>222714719I work in the tourism industry and can confirm. Japanese are too avoidant to talk to but they are by far our best behaving guests.
>>222714719No one likes French people here. What did you expect?
>>222715909Yeah several. I did end up befriending an American journalist who was great and unlike the stereotype completely, but he was some sort of rich Californian democrat. Great guy, probably the best I met.I talked to a German car engineer guy who was an obvious sex tourist and looked just like your president, we had a good talk about nuclear energy etc.And then there are a bunch of Brits/Australians/South Africans all over Asia (I can't tell which accent they have exactly) and they are a mixed bag, either leftist punks or nazis, generally fat with tattoos, many sex tourists, they're like the ones we get in Europe they're often rude. They always have insane stories about marrying Asians and get divorce raped and ending up in jail in the middle of nowhere and other insane stuff. One of the craziest things I saw was an obese British drunk with a gold tooth, he got up to fart on a child who was working in the bar once, then bellowing the most raucous laughter, and all his fat British friends joined in.
>>222716112You wouldn't know I'm French if you didn't talk to me
>>222714719In Korea, if you touch grass, you are still in the internet.
>>222714719>1 minute in they all start asking your opinion about the war in Ukraine and arguing a lot with you with no filter. They drink ungodly amounts of alcohol and chain smoke, friendly, welcoming, actually interesting and nice to be around unlike the other two. Realistically the only ones you can befriend.I found that they are impossible to argue with because they immediately start seething and taking it personally when you say anything pertaining to China that they don't like
>>222716156>One of the craziest things I saw was an obese British drunk with a gold tooth, he got up to fart on a child who was working in the bar once, then bellowing the most raucous laughter, and all his fat British friends joined in.British soft power at its best
>>222716973Yeah they are insanely nationalist I will say that. They must have replaced communist zeal with ultra nationalist zeal in my opinion.But if you talk about more debateable topics they seem more open minded than many in the world. It probably helps that I am atheist, nationalist, relatively socialist, European and traditionalist. If you come in with politics very incompatible with theirs (Western commie who accuses them of capitalism, religious person, American/Atlantist, convinced libertarian ...) I wouldn't be surprised if they were assholes. But I haven't experienced that.
>>222717196I'm very socialist-inclined and they got mad at me when I began to poke holes into their narratives like chinese workers rights being shit but 2 more weeks and it'll get better an also achieving physical control over taiwan will make our lives better somehow o algo. But thats neither here nor there. You sound like you enjoyed your time, congratulations. Any recommendations for someone who doesnt handle friction (of the organizational, logistical kind) well?
>>222717334Well in my opinion they're not wrong that it's going in the right direction, sure it's not Europe but it's not the US either. At equal salary I would rather have a lawsuit against my employer in China than the USA.A key thing is that they value the idea that they have good worker rights even when they don't, whereas Americans dismiss the idea of worker rights altogether as libtard nonsense.And otherwise, the country is very convenient. High speed train everywhere, apps for everything, all paid digital everything, they all have phones with translation apps, China is not really a rough off-the-road place at all it's convenient and efficient at every turn as long as you tune in to their digital ecosystem.
>>222714719>Conclusion : the media lied to us, the ones they presented as bad guys are the only salvageable ones over there. Our "allies" in Asia are assholes actually, especially the Koreans.Trvke. Out of all three. I somehow end up finding the Chinese as the most personable from my chats with each irl and online. All the more reason I get disgusted by all the psyops from gooks and nips pr. Especially gooks
>>222718382Gook = Koreans ? I always thought it was generic.Here we have chintok (chink) and niakwé (nhà quê, meaning peasant in Vietnamese) but they're just slurs for all Asians at this point.
>>222714719>>222714984Would you like to see my penis?
>>222718657No
>>222714719>Visit cities and talk about cityfagsSo why did you need to take a trip, you could have browsed Twitter
>>222716112They got the message when you made your cannibal a tv star for eating a local woman in ParisNice high moral behavior
>>222717454French measure of cultural success is how preferable the lawsuit is, yet they call my country spiritually Jewish
>>222714719I really interacted with 2 Chinese in my lifeFirst time in a hotel in Moscow. He told me he was here for business and took out vodka to celebrate his deal, we ended up having a drinking contest, talked too loud, and we got kicked out of the hotel at 3am, I passed out on the street.Second time a hotel in Thailand. Biker guy who kept insisting he was Inner Mongolian Chinese, not Mongolian, totally different apparently, and kept talking about bikes. I told him it was like horses before now they have bikes, never seen a guy so happy about that comment, so he went and bought 2 bottles of top shelf whisky, then we also had endless shots and I passed out in the lobby.Curious people, I think maybe they have a problem with alcohol.
>>222719902Nothing to do with cultural success we're talking worker rights. If you don't have the credit rating to get a good loan to bet on succeeding to get a settlement what are you doing in case of a problem with your employer ?Also legalism is not Jewish at all, legalism is a basis of Roman (classical Western) civilization, Jews infiltrating the domain does not mean we were ever a lawless people. Jews have their own religious law. We always took our laws seriously in the West, we are not an anarchist civilisation.
>>222720207Fuck you communist nigger die. This is why I can afford air conditioning and you can’t, also why your wife fucks BBC, plus you’re jewish
>>222720287Least deranged American
>>222714719After having atomic bombs dropped on us by white people twice, there’s no way we wouldn’t be wary.
>>222714869Nuke of wisdom
>>222720344Americans did that 80 years ago. With this logic I, as a French, should be wary of the Japanese or the Thai, because Gengis Khan was an Asian who killed many Europeans.
>>222720399Europeans will never understand that they’re in a race war and yes the nonwhite americans talking about how much they hate whites are very much including white europeans in that, not just white americans.
>>222714719Agreed, my experience with Chinese people is they are actually very relaxed, open and friendly.
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>>222714719>thailandnigga what do you expect from tourists who go there especially those who aren't traveling with their families?
>>222714719Did you have a nice time?
>>222720444I understand they hate us and want us all dead, especially the ones we have here. I have no illusion.But doing tourism in fucking Japan of all places that doesn't exclude asking them to be coherent about their hate once in a while. While we're at it, they might as well explain themselves, they won't ever change their mind but at least I'll win an argument, they'll hate me more for it and I'll get out of it vindicated.
>>222714719Japs and Koreans have sinocomplex derived neuroticism. Korean dick measuring is because they always had to compare to their gigantic empire neighbor, even Norks are dick measuring weirdos. Japanese isolationism is general sinosphere isolationism but amped up 100x because they were looked down as the backwater of the sinosphere and eventually became embargoed by China because they were blamed for not managing their piracy problem. Chinese aren't neurotic by nature in comparison, however they developed some complexes over the last century because of Japan and the west. However as they rise and find themselves in a comfortable position again, I expect it will fade more and more.
>>222720560Yeah but like >>222720444 says there is often underlying hate. In fact from Asian-Americans on holidays they were the worst, two different ones went aggressive on me unprompted. I found Chinese people raised in isolation from us seem, at least on the surface of course, much less openly hostile and neurotic. On the surface of course, you never really know what's in someone's head.
>>222720851Sorry to hear that, as an Asian-American.I'm a bit surprised, I think Asian-Americans, like Asians, tend to be meeker and shy away from aggression.
>>222720444Frankly it's Europe's 'race war' the US is essentially faceless. You never know what's behind this flag.
>>222721127Well the only Asian diaspora I know here is a far right voting Chinese diaspora shopkeeper. We have many Viet communist 2nd gens too but it is marginal.But the ones I've met from the US were 1/ Borderline schizo women with identity issues and sexual race fetishes mixed with their politics 2/ Philippino-Americans who behaved like Mexicans and had an axe to grind against white people 3/ Passive-aggressive nerd tech Californian Asian-Americans who had a superiority/inferiority complex problem with Europeans from the get goIt is what it is if you don't like us for whatever reason, we don't have to all like each other.I think the general anti white feeling is extended to us like that anon said, and it is I feel extended to Europeans for both historical reasons and because USA lets these people vent on us very openly as an authorized target, or that is how I see it.I do think it's a bit strange for a Frenchman to have a problem with Asian-Americans as we are not exactly in close contact. I don't really care about you but I felt like you hated us every time I came in contact. Whatever.
>>222714719tdlrop is a faggot that was only in Thailand for 2 weeks, doesn't even speak any Asian language, his only interaction with Asians is talking to drunk tourists in the hostel/bar and mistakenly thinks he has any actual knowledge on Asia worth sharing
>>222721874I spent over 2 months and a half in Thailand/Vietnam/Southern China/Macao/PhilippinesGot invited by locals as much as possible, got into many non tourist/non western clubs thanks to themIt's worth what it's worth sure but even here an American getting with the Paris city center people would be worth talking aboutAnd I speak Russian if that counts
>>222714719>friendly, welcoming, actually interesting and nice to be aroundprobably south chinese
>>222714719>Most insufferable people on the continentAnd this is coming from a frenchman, no less, oof. Koreabros blown the fuck out
>>222721931so you were in Thailand, Vietnam, Philippines but posted about Koreans and Japanese? lmao i'm sure you talked to a lot of locals> got into many non tourist/non western clubs thanks to themis that supposed to be impressive? you're in poor countries they will let you inside any club, the no foreigner policy only happens in Korea and Japan
>>222722025Did I say I talked to locals ? Precisely you can try but you can't really, you have to understand you can't hang out at a bar with a random Thai guy there is an income gap and the upper classes are in a bubble.Who does that leave to hang out with ? Well the Koreans, Japanese and Chinese. Also Americans and some sparse Euros. Hence I don't give my opinion on South East Asians, you can't talk on the same level.If a Japanese guy goes to Croatia he will not come back with opinions on Serbians or Bulgarians, he will come back talking about his experience with Brits and Germans.
>>222722111>you can try but you can't really, you have to understand you can't hang out at a bar with a random Thai guy there is an income gapYeah try to talk on equal footing to a guy who makes 1/10th your income, lmaoAnd the rich ones do everything to avoid usThe only type of thirdies you can talk to as a firstie are the government/academic/international business types with education, good english, and decent income, in neutral international settings
>>222722918Well some guys do this with women. Then they act surprised when they get divorce raped or pressured to give half their income.Usually they're plebs in the West too. And getting with their normal girls seems impossible beyond one night stands.High income gap makes any healthy equal relation impossible, I will never pity the retards who fall for thirdie women and end up getting fucked.
>>222714719>However, once drunk, they can be funny and easy going.This is actually a common point in historical accounts of foreigners in Japan.
>>222722111how do you reach that level of understanding and still call japanese people xenophobic? literally, japanese people look at french and germans the same way you look at serbs or bulgarians. that is exactly why they avoid talking to them.herodotus wrote about the berbers of north africa and the scythian nomads, but japanese people simply do not have much interest in other barbarians.
>>222723286>japanese people look at french and germans the same way you look at serbs or bulgarians. that is exactly why they avoid talking to them.Why, you know we aren't going to scam you ? We're not your poor neighbours trying to get something out of you. I would understand if you looked at Filipinos like we look at Bulgarians but to us you're more of a distant exotic people. We've waged imperialist wars on you but we've never acted like gypsies trying to leech from you.And either way, I would definitely give a cigarette and start laughing with a random Bulgarian worker, not run away from him like he's got the fucking plague.Let me tell you, one time I was well dressed with an expensive watch and I ended up in a nuru massage salon in Vietnam. I had no idea it catered to the Japanese diaspora. Then I went in and all the Japanese in the room looked at me bad and changed seats. I got the fucking gaijin seat in a Vietnamese brothel. You are in a fucking brothel how do you act like this, what the fuck.
>>222714719>hey remind me of Americans in that they are extremely superficial, full of themselves and into dick measuring contests, maybe they'd get along with USAians. But I would rather kill myself than talk to a Korean again.Therefore you also dislike Americans, right?
>>222723465I am French what do you think lmao?Go watch the De Gaulle movie that came out, part 2, if you want our pov.
>>222715492>boomer thing of making a crop top with their t shirt to show they are well fed and skinnyfat is weird nglMy father does that and I'm from the south, therefore white and germanic.
>>222714719> he thinks sexpat's opinion mattersKwab
>>222723558Yeah it's proof you're German, in Europe the Southerners Spanish Portuguese Italians Greeks go the other way, they open half their shirt from the top to show the hair and manboobs
>>222723612Virtually all Koreans abroad are sexpat passport bros relying on their Koreanness to fuck all sorts of teenage kpop fans (including underage ones)
>>222716156>One of the craziest things I saw was an obese British drunk with a gold tooth, he got up to fart on a child who was working in the bar once, then bellowing the most raucous laughter, and all his fat British friends joined in.
>>222723065Mind you East Asians have this too. I gather about 300k marriages/year between East Asian guys and SEA girls.Sometimes it ends just like when our incels marry Ukrainian girls. They realize they married a loser and they are legally protected and they can fuck him up however they want.We think they are legally protected and not as cucked as us but look at >>222714984 or Korean news. Feminism in Korea is somewhere top 5 worst along Spain and Sweden. Sometimes they get fucked like us.Their relation to SEA is a lot like our relation to EE.
>>222723485I thought you guys liked mutts
>>222723796Why do you think they tried to rename French fried to freedom fries ? Why does Trump makes a joke about Macron once a week to please his base ? We are their go-to poster boy for Euro-bashing ? We refused to go to Iraq and now Iran and their media started shitting on us again ? We are the typical Europoor fags they should hate ?No, sure we are "close" with an old relation and there is some familiarity but we are always at odds.Historically and geopolitically it's been since the 60s (or even WW2), we refused their bases and tried to have sovereignty for ourselves and Europe and they fight against it. They are close culturally but politically they hate us because we won't act as a vassal like Germans or Brits or Poles.
I agree 100% with your assessment of Koreans. Insufferable all around. Japanese people kind of exist in two major categories - those who understand that Japan is kind of a crazy and inherently contradictory society held together by collectivist shame duct tape and social pressure glue yet choose to roll with it for the sake of harmony, and those that don't reflect on this at all and think it's perfectly normal. The former are some of the coolest people you'll ever meet. The latter, well, they'll probably never speak to you in the first place so you don't have to worry about it.Chinese people, I find it depends entirely on social class and where they're from. I absolutely hate the rural countryside bumpkins, not for any political reasons but just because they're fucking dumb, rude, and unrefined. The coastal, metropolitan urbanized Chinese are based as hell and usually incredibly intelligent people.
>>222723796From the most right wing guy to the most left wing guy we don't have anyone who glazes the US as much as Bolsonaro. Or even how Lula glazes democrats. Even fucking Macron, of all people, sent troops to Greenland and openly said if the US came we'd have to end up fighting militarily.Tell me, what did your supposedly 3rd worldist """brics""" country do recently to stand up to the US ?
>>222722111well you said "locals invited you" so i'm not sure how you wouldn't talk in this situation maybe you're just autistic? I had no problem talking with Vietnamese women that spoke English, it's a language gap not an income gap>you have to understand you can't hang out at a bar with a random Thai guyyou just didn't go to the right places, any places with university students or upscale where people will speak english it's quite easy, but if you go to Thailand for partying and sex in the shithole tourist road it's obvious that you're gonna end up with people that share your same plans aka tourists so not the locals faultAnd you can't give an opinion on Koreans/Japanese because of some tourists you met sexpating in SEA let's be serious
>>222724205Fair enough it wasn't local locals simply local Asians in clubs with many Chinese and other well off Asians and no tourists. Just like in a Euro capital city center you're not really partying with the local native middle class but with the cosmopolitan English speaking global Euro class. Go to the center of Paris right now, you'll get a minority of actual French people, but few tourists too, it's a certain type.Also yeah it's a language gap to get close to them until you want something serious.It's not really sexpats, you see SEA is full of East Asian diaspora like, say, Germans in the East back then. In some countries the Chinese are like 20% of the population and the whole upper class.How representative are they ? Sure you can't generalize but I've seen them on other trips and it seems consistent.
>>222724134>sent troops to Greenlandyeah he sent 3 sacrificial lambs lol so heroic and powerful
>>222724384You backed off, it worked
>>222714719>They drink ungodly amounts of alcohol and chain smoke, friendly, welcoming, actually interesting and nice to be aroundme and my friend drank with some chinese uncles in china many years ago and they were based as fuckkept buying us drinks, asked about random every day stuff, and were overall very friendly. honestly though without alcohol as a social lubricant i have no idea how my autistic finnish ass could've gotten through it kekgood people
>>222724384lmao cope
>>222724468I'd vote for this nigga a 3rd time if I couldI want a 1000 years Macronist reich
>>222724366The Chinese are not sexpat but the Koreans and Japanese if it's not a couple trip they usually areOr business trip but business trip you're certainly not gonna find them in a tourist bar
>>222714719>1 minute in they all start asking your opinion about the war in Ukraine and arguing a lot with you with no filterI don't like politicized people. They're fucked up and kinda immature.
>>222724515Japanese can be legit tourists but Koreans are in fact sexpats you're right. I think most Koreans are sexpats everywhere they go, the Korean world cup tourists in Mexico right now are sex tourists in my book.Some will say "it's not their fault impressionable girls thirst over Korean media guys they're just taking the opportunity" but then you talk to the average Korean you realize he is a narcissist traveling to fuck every woman he comes across and is close to holding a journal of it like a psycho.
>>222714719In my country I try to stay away from the French because they smell like shit and are always arrogant know-it-all. I'm just saying maybe the fact that you are a from the hexagone has tainted your experience.
>>222724670Vive le Québec libre
>>222714719>Chud only gets along with other chuds