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Something foreigners have literally no reason to know or care about is that this central strip of Mexico has a temperate to cold climate with pine forests akin to summertime oregon but never reaching far below 8 degrees. The weather most mexicans live in isn't a desert nor a jungle but a very rainy windy one
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>>222868471
that does surprise me, thanks for the information
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why are people on this board so averse to deserts? they look kino imo
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The subbuman belt
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>>222868576
fuck deserts, worst biome after tundra and arctic
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>>222868471
build the wall there
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>>222868599
chilangoid belt
if you were born there you are shitlangoid
>ehhrmm akshually am from hecking guanajuaterino
kys shitlango
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>Something foreigners have literally no reason to know
I do know about that because I've been to CDMX and Puebla
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>>222868731
You are right. Every state that borders edomex or cdmx is a radioactive chilango nest and should be nuked
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>>222868544
Here's what it looks like
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I want to live there
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>>222868599
La verdad no creo, por lo que he visto toda la subhumanidad de este país nace de todos esos estados que tienen acceso al Océano Pacifico
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>>222869039
Its the part where organized crime is more blurry and political too
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>>222868810
wouldn't guess it's mexico in a million years
then again I doubt many people would think algeria isn't just desert but has some very lush places as well
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This is the State of Mexico. If you go up through Amecameca towards Iztaccíhuatl, you will find several waterfalls and small lakes with these views
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>>222869301
This quiet looks like something you would see in Patagonia, beautiful nature
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>>222868471
Okay subhuman
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>>222869048
Si todos los sicarios fueran originarios de esos estados tendria validez tu argumento, pero no lo es. Cdmx y Edomex siguen siendo las capitales de la subhumanez por tener la mayor cantidad de subhumanos per capita en el día a día
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>>222868544
Don't believe him lol. The fact that mexijeet uses Oregon (a place no one besides Amerimutts would give a shit about) as a reference point should tell he is a dirty Amerikeik lover who should be impaled
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>>222868810
>>222869240
>>222869301
Made for European settlement
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>>222869491
There are several pleasant villages in the forests of that region
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>>222869491
Please come here and rape us
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That red area should be the border between two new countries
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>>222869587
what would the two countries be
like how do they differ?
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>>222869609
north is white and pro-american
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>>222869609
The southern part is full of lazy monkeys that cant built anything good despite having it all (access to two oceans, oil, fresh water, etc)
The northern part has real niggas that managed to build to most decent man-made part of Mexico despite living in a rough desert with zero advantages. Spiritually we are more like americans. The future wealthiest zones of Mexico are all in this area
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>>222869662
But curiously protestantism flourishes south and on the jungle mountains instead
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>>222869687
north mexico is like a human slaughterhouse, I’d rather live among peaceful little south mexicans.
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>>222869747
>peaceful little south mexicans.
Lmao
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>>222869662
>>222869687
do northern and southern mexicans feel differently about the spanish colonial period?
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>>222869747
only Yucatan is peaceful. who the fuck started the hoax that southerners are peaceful? they have machete fights like south americans in that zone, they run child prostitution rings, they behead their mayors, they all come running to northern mexico escaping from their jungles. its more like their violence is not reported
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>>222869469
Based
>>222868471
8 degrees is too cold
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>>222868810
I literally have a house close to a landscape like that. I just wish we had higher mountains to complement the landscape with snowy mountains.
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>>222869828
The spanish concentrated in southern mexico. Northern Mexico was built by mexicans in the last 50 years with the help of american capital and industry. There's like no influence of spain at all over here so yeah we dont give a fuck, but I understand why southerners are salty about their grandaddies being slaves and shit. I dont hold that against them
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>>222869739
The first Evangelical-led, pro-Israel and pro-American invasion party in Mexico is headquartered in Monterrey, Nuevo Leon.
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>>222869828
yes, north mexico LARPs as pure spanish and HATES indigenous peoples. they're like peruvian monkes
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>>222869747
You have good taste
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>>222870040
comfy!
north mx looks DUSTY af
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>>222869662
>>222869739
>>222869935
Kill every pro-american mexican
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>>222869828
All the splendor of the colonial period was concentrated in southern Mexico. The north, on the other hand, was a difficult place to prosper, generally a militarized frontier throughout the period. Meanwhile, in the south, especially in the area between Mexico City and Puebla, the city of Morelia, the lakes of Michoacán, the Bajío region, and the Valley of Oaxaca, you can find the masterpieces and greatest expressions of wealth of the period. As such, New Spain had its borders between Zacatecas and Veracruz.
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>>222870353
>>222869969
>>222869923
I somehow thought the north was more spanish because of the genetic makeup, but I guess not
what is the difference between southern mexico and the rest of central america (especially guatemala)?
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>>222870621
The genetics of northern Mexico definitely tend to have a stronger direct Spanish heritage, but there was almost no Spanish nobility there, although there are some exceptions like Durango or New Mexico. In general, wealthy Spaniards never settled there. Southern Mexico maintained a predominantly indigenous population throughout the colonial period, but unlike the north, the south was home to the Spanish nobility and aristocracy. Urban life was more dominant, and the economy revolved around silver mining and the corporations created by religious orders. Even today, in many southern cities, you can find the original mansions of the most powerful men and families of the colonial era. It's worth noting that Guatemala and Yucatan were de facto territories separate from New Spain. In Campeche and Mérida, pirate attacks were a major concern, and the encomienda system still existed there, even though it had been almost completely eradicated in the rest of New Spain. Guatemala, meanwhile, was a separate kingdom, with its two major cities being Antigua Guatemala and San Cristóbal de las Casas.
The remaining territories of New Spain, such as Veracruz, the Northwest, Northeast, Guerrero, Oaxaca, and Nayarit, were essentially marginalized peripheries of the kingdom, where little prosperity arose. In contrast, the Bajío region, especially Guanajuato and Zacatecas, boasted the wealthiest cities in North America.
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>>222871090
that's fascinating, I appreciate the response
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>>222870621
>was more spanish because of the genetic makeup
Sorry but thats a very retarded view of things. Even if I sound like a plebbitor, genetics and culture have nothing to do with each other. Northern mexico has many brown motherfuckers but we are all spiritually americanized. And whats better, our genetics keep changing all the time because we intermarriage with american whites a lot. Many decades into the future it might be possible that we become more genetically germanic due to our proximity with americans
Southern mexicans and centracas are the same shit btw they only pretend they are not because we all look down on centracas
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>>222871409
>Many decades into the future it might be possible that we become more genetically germanic due to our proximity with americans
it looks like the other way around is what's happening, the US is getting chicano'd
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>>222871504
Thats exactly what I wrote. Intermarriages will increase the germanic influence in northern mexicans to the point we lean towards germanic blood more and more. History has not ended yet. There are zero supplies of spanish blood in modern mexico. Even their genetics will get washed away lmao
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>>222870175
You are cool
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>>222869491
and that's exactly what happened, torbjörn
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Cómo regio me avergüenzo de los regiomontanos. Enserio tienen las opiniones más estúpidas y analfabestias. Totalmente enajenados creyéndose pseudo gringos morenos aspiracionistas, sin reconocer que nuestra prosperidad viene del puto vergel oasis que es Monterrey, lleno de ojos de agua, pastizales y cruce fronterizo entre mercados internacionales. Vasconcelos tenía razón, la civilización termina donde inicia Aridoamérica.
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>>222868471
>central strip of Mexico has a temperate to cold climate with pine forests
That's same thing in AZ, mountains are cooler and have pine forests.
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>>222873403
Africa begins at the Pyrenées
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>>222875840
Sí pendejo, seguramente tenemos mejor geografía que los hoyos de mierda de oaxaca, veracruz, tabaco, etc. Excusas y más excusas. Hasta Tijuana que es un desierto horrible puja mas que el sur
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>>222868471
my house there is a few kilometers from that, maybe in that
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>oregon, but with latinas
Can I move there?
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>>222869420
Y seguimos siendo los más ricos de todo el país sin hacer nada jajajajajaja que el provinciano se ocupe de la vida real
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>>222876595
>>oregon, but with latinas
it's no, it is jungle for most of it, it does get cold (55f) in winter, but summers are worse than Florida
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>>222876725
>summers are worse than Florida
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>>222876777
that zone he highlighted is where they filmed the original Predator movies, like jaguars and shit
I know, I have a house there, my city office has everybody's trailcam pics of jaguars on the wall
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>>222876889
Damn, it's really pretty though. That humidity and heat would kill me.
>my city office has everybody's trailcam pics of jaguars on the wall
Kino.
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>>222876617
Idealmente pronto veremos injerencia gringa para poner orden en este pais de prietos y trasladar la sede del poder politico al norte
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>>222876940
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA quieren otra cristiada? Otra vez los vamos a colgar de los árboles como todo traidor merece
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>>222876922
the city office building
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>>222877119
>the city office building
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>>222877069
De verdad nos convendría trasladar toda la porquería política a otro lado. Nos harían un favor si movemos las sedes federales a chingar a su puta madre a un estercolero que si los quiera a cambio de beneficios más amplios en cuanto a jurisdicción, territorio, ingresos o transferencias.
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>>222877229
México no puede dejar de ser centralista porque se desintegra la federación. México ha sido el país de uno por milenios, los sueños de democracia son ilusiones burguesas y anglojudias. Por eso es importantísimo tener un partido único con gente capaz, a la China. Y no es coincidencia que el viejo PRI inspiró al partido comunista chino.
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>>222877327
>México ha sido el país de uno por milenios
t. el indigenista menos pendejo
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>>222868613
the dessert is the best biome. it just feels bad because people dont build around its strenghts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ-jdUGCxcc
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>>222878514
yeah that's not a real desert bro, americans use the term "desert" pretty loosely to indicate vaguely arid and hot places
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>>222878721
meanwhile tuscon, arizona, the place from your video
nobody would call this a desert where I'm from
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>>222869491
That didn't work out last time.
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>>222868669
This. Mexico should be divided into north and south.
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>>222871588
What is this. The indigenous are the ones reclaiming LatAm. Whites are going extinct. Olmecs are conquering the USA. Delusional brown.
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>>222875840
>Cómo regio me avergüenzo de los regiomontanos. Enserio tienen las opiniones más estúpidas y analfabestias.
No sea pendejo mijo, como si los sureños fueran unos eruditos cuando se ensañan contra nosotros. Ellos siempre nos tiran de que sin el sur Monterrey no sería nada, y que los sureños levantaron la ciudad y no se que otras mamadas. Si claro, como si los sureños hubieran levantado a la Fundidora o a la Cervecería en aquellos años.

>sin reconocer que nuestra prosperidad viene del puto vergel oasis que es Monterrey, lleno de ojos de agua, pastizales y cruce fronterizo entre mercados internacionales
Eso no lo niego, pero ignoras que muchas ciudades de Coahuila tienen las mismas condiciones o incluso mejores que Monterrey, con mejor clima y mucha más disponibilidad de agua y aún así nunca hicieron nada con esos recursos. La única ciudad más o menos que hizo algo y que hasta le hacía competencia directa a Monterrey fue Saltillo, y pues se quedó ya muy atrás desde hace años.
Y Tamaulipas igual, tiene chingos de costa, chingos de frontera y nunca hicieron ni madre y siguen igual de jodidos que hace 30 años. De nada sirve si tienes una posición geopolitica privilegiada si nunca haces nada con ello.
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A nadie le importan tus peleas pueblerinas norte-sur ¡Estas en int!
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>>222868471
Interesting, I might build a cabin there after we ravage your lands and finish what the Spanish should have.
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>>222868471
wow, mexico is a white country after all!!!
is that what you want to hear?
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>>222882801
no, they want to hear
¡Vaya, resulta que México es un país blanco después de todo!
because they can understand that
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>>222868576
Warm weather sucks, I hate summer.
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>>222875924
And ends in the polish-german border, you sulphur-breather
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>>222869687
>Spiritually we are more like americans.
Self-hating nigger
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>>222868471
Post pictures then
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>>222869048
Mataulipas is heaven on earth then
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>>222883755
most mexicans are just spanish americans now
the only actual hispanic-mexicans are the white ones that can actually read in latin, as their ancestors did, and this is perhaps 50 mexicans alive right now
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>>222868471
You forgot to say it is also the region with the most Mexicans living there. And honestly, it's not worth it. That region is where the worst vices came from and the people there are beyond salvation. There is no point in settle there.
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Mexico is the most pathetic self hating piece of shit country on earth. please, anybody, nuke the shit out of mexico and the southwest and rid the world of the human suffering caused by the existence of mexicans
Cortes died penniless for this
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>>222868471
Still blows my mind that Mexico is the place with the most species of pine trees of any country in the world
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>>222868471
Why are the North and the Yucatan so empty?
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>>222885798
>>222885895
>brazilians learn about mexico, india and china at school
for what fucking purpose
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>>222886226
We are just old fashion style of education, like France before marxists made school only a form of progressive propaganda, and brazilian teachers care more about competition of market, and made their children the smartest one over than make muh discontructivists rebelds?
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>>222886474
man what the fuck are you talking about
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>>222886474
Book old of school
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>>222869828
Not really, and that's because our government actually ran a successful indoctrination campaign in where they successfully managed to "homogenize" all regions into one foundational myth, even if Mexico is in reality like 5-6 different regions with their own history.
The core of it is basically: Spain = bad, Natives = good, with Aztecs basically being the central pillar of the story with some bits of mayan history here and there.
But we actually never learn about our regional history like the Tarascan Campaigns in the west or the devasting Apache Wars in the north. And the Colonial Era is almost always ignored and we basically made a jump from the fall to the Aztec Empire into the Independence War, ignoring everything that happened in between.
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>>222868471
https://lacgeo.com/trans-mexican-volcanic-belt-pine-oak-forests
kino
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>>222886745
Thanks God, here in South America we are normal, peruvians look core índios and everytime that they serve a ceviche, they dress as a full Manolo barbero de Sevilla to serve it and how much deep traditions sevillans, ceviche copy. Even DJs of funk in Brazil love to copy estancieiro culture, buy horses and Lamborghinis avantador and larp as portuguese barons or vicecounts
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>>222886745
Yeah Mexico has a Jewish president somehow. No wonder your education system is just white people bad. Same as every western country.
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>>222886868
Because your natives were/are pretty much irrelevant to current Brazil and even blacks have more weight in Brazilian history.
But I remember reading that at some point, in Colonial Brazil, the Tupi language was gaining traction as some kind of "lingua franca" between the natives and the Brazilian elites, and even some of them wanted to make it the official language of Brazil, until the Marqués de Pombal heard about those plans and told them to fuck off and stablished Portuguese as the only language of the colonies and banned the use of everything else as alternatives.
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>>222887041
You petry much contradicted yourself:
>brazilians have not culture injun
>an injun idiom was more spoken than portuguese
Choose one
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>>222887078
Media only talk about slums and Pleisoninho with bola murcha because is convenient to them. But about history hue that we real brazilians learn about? Well, lusitans also larguelly married amerindians guaranis, jês, creating the tropeiro culture, golden rush cowboys that searched to precious in deep Western Brazil and created important cities to portuguese empire and its genes are like 20% of Brazil, some 70 million people
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>>222887041
You're actually retarded if you think the portuguese settlers were speaking fucking tupi
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>>222868471
If i visit unironically can i join the native communist guerillas please please i'll get very tan and squint my eyes like che guvera you wont even know
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>>222887078
No contradiction here. I was just telling a short story about how natives could have been more relevant to the country's history and mythos, but the Portuguese from Lisboa always suppressed the influence they had for fearing of losing control in the long run. Unlike here, where the Spaniards barely gave a fuck which languages people spoke as long as they paid the "quinto real".
If any, like half of people here actually spoke a native language until the independence. It was actually the Mexican presidents and governors the ones who suppressed native languages and cultures and not the "evil Spaniards", as our history textbooks say.
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>>222887172
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%ADnguas_gerais
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>>222887224
Well, we also paid 1/5 of golden but mostly part of it, it was to fidalgos and homens bons created infraestucture here,like Faculdade do Largo de São Francisco(influenced by Coimbra), Banco do Brasil, etc..., populated with cattle and shit, only a part of this 1/5, and yes, D. João carred very much about local people:
>onde aqui há portugueses da terra, convivem botocudos antropófagos que comem carne humana no maior império católico do mundo, que horror
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>>222887268
This was a common language developed and spread by the Jesuits. The Indians spoke it. The Portuguese settlers spoke Portuguese
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>>222887363
But we had an indigenist period that in parnasian style poetry, natives like Caiubi, Tembere, the Arariboia was celebrated as builders of Brazil with help of portugueses Pedro Dias, Diogo Cão, Senador Pedro de Vergueiro and help founded sesmarias and pelourinhos.
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>>222876312
>seguramente tenemos mejor geografía que los hoyos de mierda de oaxaca, veracruz, tabaco, etc. Excusas y más excusas. Hasta Tijuana que es un desierto horrible puja mas que el sur

Así es imbécil. Monterrey es una extensión de las llanuras de Texas. Es un pastizal fértil lleno de agua y tiene al alcance los recursos minerales de SLP. Además por el cruzan puentes internacionales de comercio exterior. La relative prosperidad de Monterrey arranca con el contrabando de algodón y armas con los estados confederados.

Ese mito de que estamos en un desierto es una paja mental que se inventó el grupo Monterrey para tener a millones de pendejos enajenados y confrontados con otros proletarios de la república
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>>222888624
>La relative prosperidad de Monterrey arranca con el contrabando de algodón y armas con los estados confederados.
Si sabía de eso, pero toda la frontera norte estaba metida en ese contrabando y Monterrey no era la única ciudad metida en eso.

>Ese mito de que estamos en un desierto es una paja mental que se inventó el grupo Monterrey para tener a millones de pendejos enajenados y confrontados con otros proletarios de la república
No tiene mucho sentido eso, el Grupo Monterrey tenía el dominio de la ciudad con o sin la propagación de ese supuesto mito. Sus acciones fueron las que se ganaron a la gente de a pie, no sus palabras.

Además
>proletarios
Tenías que se commie, esos weyes son los únicos que se refieren a la clase obrera como proletarios.
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>>222888624
Monterrey si tiene una ubicación geográfica privilegiada pero no es debido a que tenga un gran clima o buenos recursos, sino a qué el sitio en el que se encuentra es un nodo perfecto que conecta las ciudades texanas con el Puerto de Tampico, el eje industrial de Coahuila, las ciudades del Bajío al sur y las ciudades fronterizas al Norte. Es un punto logístico muy conveniente para producir y transportar tanto hacia el Sur y Noroeste de México como para el resto de Texas.

Por eso Saltillo quedó muy relegado, pues esta fuera de ese punto exacto que Monterrey ya ocupa casi en su totalidad.
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>>222889609
>Por eso Saltillo quedó muy relegado, pues esta fuera de ese punto exacto que Monterrey ya ocupa casi en su totalidad.
Saltillo y Monterrey estaban al mismo nivel allá por los 1800s. E irónicamente Saltillo pudo haberle ganado a Monterrey si ellos hubieran puesto la Fundidora y no al revés.
De hecho en Coahuila tenía todas las de ganar por el hecho de que ellos tienen la Region Carbonífera, que es de lo más primordial que una región necesita para industrializarse.
Pero el gobierno de Coahuila se puso sus moños, y en cambio el de Nuevo León hasta exención de impuestos por unos años les daba, y los inversionistas prefirieron poner la planta en Monterrey.



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