They hate each other.Just partition it between Netherlands, France and Germany.Leave Brussels as a city state for the EU like the Vatican.
>>222900566the eternal walloon, like a bloodsucking tick, must drain the resources from the hardworking flemisheven the french do not want that parasite, while the poor western dutchies must suffer the frankish abominations stealing their land, resources and infesting their populace with the brainrot of the fr*nch language - all while crying out in pain as they strike them.
>>222900566Walloonic undermen are in league with the globalists to keep the shit show together so they can leech off the Flemish for longer
Belgian masculinity is in crisis
>>222900855>>222900932Is that satire? because I can't tell
>>222906310Wallonia has quite literally not contributed a thing to Belgium. Lüttich counts as German btw
>>222900566>What is even the point?To destroy the Amerimutts
>>222906456What? That's not true at all, it was the richest region for most of Belgium history (until the 60's) and contributed to most of the cultural output despite being a demographic minoriitySo what are you talking about exactly?
it wont happen because:>BeNeLUx exists to prop it up>Germany doesnt want bigger France>France doesn't want to pay for walloons too>France doesn't want to lose another "francophone country" (it is like their sidekick)>France can now influence Flanders too through Belgium.>The Brussels question>Eupen-malmedy would be returned to Germany>Dutch dont want to pay for Flemish roads>Dutch would control the capital of the EU: Brussel>Dutch would control Antwerp AND Rotterdam>Muh Rape of Belgium 1st German Victim-myth of The Entente (it is a symbol of Entente, anti-German power)>EU loves smaller decentralized states that vote in tandem with it>Belgium/BeNeLux is a testing ground for early EU policy. (literally the Raison D'etre of the Benelux in its founding documents)>Luxembourg might expand into poor people Luxembourg, resulting in the Frenchification of Luxembourg (and bordergore)TLDR: it would weaken France's European position, strengthen the Dutch, and maybe Germany too. And also create a new Luxembourg Problem in favour of France
>>222906817>>Luxembourg might expand into poor people Luxembourg, resulting in the Frenchification of Luxembourg (and bordergore)There are three times more people in Luxembourg than in the province of Luxembourg, so the leak is going the other way
>lead up to WW2>refuses to cooperate with the allied military because they're neutral>also whines when the French want to expand Maginot to the sea because it would mean abandoning themFake-ass country should have been dissolved immediately afterwards for being a gigantic strategic liability
>>222900566It's just another Anglo colony. Like Israel, Poland or Romania
>>222906909we are far more a country than many other european countriesWe resisted 18 days against Germany while Denmark "resisted" 6 hours, because THAT is a fake as country who can't decide if they are german or scando.
>>222906866>Secondary School: French is slowly introduced as <b>the main language</b> for teaching most subjects.they are already being Frenchified rn. Total Luxembourgish Death is official policy
>>222906627>and contributed to most of the cultural output despite being a demographic minoriityThe state of Belgium for that entire time was a Francophone government that explicitly aimed to suppress and eventually wipe out the Dutch language in Flanders.
>>222900566Our November Uprising soldiers gave their lives for indeoendant Belgium and you WILL honour their memory by keeping it around
Belgians are more upset about languages being spoken on the wrong side of their internal border than most countries are about foreign immigration to their country.I don't care whether the constituent bits go on to join larger countries, belgium should be split up anyway.
>>222906951Wait I thought they made their version of German the official language, why are they teaching in french then? To accommodate zainichi moortuguese?
>>222906955So now you are moving the goal post from "having contributed nothing" to "yes but it was unfaaair".BTW I'm talking about the contribution of Wallonia and its people, not of the Belgian governement.There was NO policy of "wiping out" the Flemish language in Flanders, just a desire to unite administratively (like everywhere in Europe), and it was purely self-inflicted by the Flemish themselves.
>>222906978Old system they had for >little kids = luxembourgish, >till like 15 = German>rest = FrenchNow:>playtime = luxembourgish>Parents choose either German or French>Reality: people choose French>Why: The problem is that all of those migrants from Romance countries (half of Portugal) do not care for German and want to learn French. So migration has pretty much killed German.
>>222907033>>222906978soon only Eupen-Malmedy will be the only German speakin region in Europe...
>>222906961>Russhits were so busy killing Sarmatian GODs that French and Belgians got away with their revolutions
>>222906817you guys always talk like you are enemies o algo. meanwhile you are all united in the same faggotry, with barely any resemblance of concurrence left. apart from petty patriotism for historical reasons your countries get along well. In fact Benelux, Germany and France is most integrated and united European region, just like Charlemagne intended. Stop bitching about muh France muh power muh control
>>222906951Luxembourgian is impratical anyway and just some made-up gobbledegok so foreigners can't understand what they are conspiring, it's better that they speak a bigger language so we understand what they are plotting about
>>222907060we are closer to Denmark than Belgium. Flanders is more French than Dutch. Crossing the Rhine is like entering a parody of human behavior. I once went to France, and Italy, and I was shocked: they really act 'that' way. Such faggotry, random beating around the bush, laziness.
>>222907081Luxembourgish was invented as Frenchified German to prevent German influence. The French won... it wont be even a Germanix nation anymore, The Great Replacement by Iberians will kill German influence. Sad.
>>222907094I don't say there aren't cultural differences but the more far from your countries I am, the more similar you are in my eyes. Culture is a continuum after all. My point still stands tho: your policies are almost all the same and your region is well integrated. If you united yesterday I don't think anyone would have noticed
>>222907132French-Belgium policies are closer to Italian than Dutchthey rape themselves into debt, do not integrate migrants, have no good educational system for all classes, larp as trad.We are much closer to Scandinavia in everything
>>222907060True, all of this is petty provincialism, but it hides socio-economic issues.NVA, the party in power in Belgium, the so-called "flemish nationalists"; are admitted Tchatcherians, they bully Wallonia insofar as it is the post-industrial mining region they want to get rid of, the same way Thatcher bullied the working class in England (it's the same story but with a cultural line which adds to the fire).So all this ethno-cultural chauvinism hides economic opportunism
>>222907094>>222907171who hurt you
>>222907189>>222907205>picrelwe are not like you. Belgium is closer to Greece than The Netherlands. Only superficial larpers would put us in the same basket.
>>222907221too many bureaucrats in Belgium, they are the leeches
>>222907171believe me, you are more alike than you think and everything you said is applicable only to Italy, except for the debt part ofc. And you aren't as autistic or quiet as scandis. I will give you credit for the similarity with danes, especially in a pragmatic mindset. but in rest the 5 continental north-western european countries are fairly similar
>>222907205(You)
>what's even the point?buffer state between Germany and Francethats it
>>222907249that is your Catholic-Socialist(French) heritage, to allow such parasitism>>222907261I have worked with Antwerpish "Dutch" ""People""incredibly lazy. The niggers of Europe, only succesful because they border us and geography. The Blackest Black or the most Loyal of the Nafri-Mujhadeen in my country work harder than a Flemand. Do not get me started with the lower lifeforms further south. Only the luxemburgers are alright. They did not betray us, Luxemburg was stolen from us. They are the only real Dutch in spirit. In fact Denmark-Netherlands-Israel-Luxembourg are the real cultural block, not some Greater Netherlands larp
>>222907346The French rightly have calculated that importing third worlders would improve their country. Any real culture is better than their own marxist-catholic drivel of laziness and thuggery. Their entire culture is dependant on the existance of more succesful countries in their periphery, or the exploitation of others outright.Fuck the French and their devilish spawn. Perhaps Belgians were okay in the far, far past. Now not so.
>>222907205>>222907249you are thieves
>>222906941>THAT is a fake as countrydenmark has been around for over 1000 years and they conquered England like twice so it's a grand historical empire far as the anglosphere is concerned
>>222907132you are on his (our) side of the danube-rhine frontier, my barbarian friend
>>222907033>>222907047het is zo joover
>>222907582Southern netherlands aka Belgium have been around longer and conquered France (Clovis from Tournai created France) the Netherlands (NL is a breakaway country made by Belgian refugees after the siege of Antwerp) even England (the Belgae conquered England)
>merge Wallonia, Luxembourg, Alsace-Lorraine into a new state with official languages French and German>merge Flanders into Netherlands>move all migrants and politicians to Brussels>nuke Brussels
>>222907870That would just create Belgium 2.0 albeit
>>222906456Why are you lying?
>>222907889The language border would be less clear
>>222907870>t.picrel
>>222900566It used to be religion. After all Belgium is just the land that was under Habsburg counter-reformist rule. Nowadays new Belgians aren't even religious and if they are, well...
>>222908212why do germans and french hate each others a bit less than dutch and french?
>>222908387We got it out of our systems during the world wars
>>222908499surely there are tensions in Bade or Saarlandit's funny that there are much less tensions with italians down south
>>222907870stealth 3rd burgundy post
>>222900566I agree.The only reason for Belgium to exist was to prevent shit starting between France and Germany, and this logic failed 2 times in a row.
>>222909007It is Roosevelt's New Wallonia plan
>>222907059Yep. And it's not even coincidance, the direct trigger for the armed revolt in Poland was the order for the Russian military to got to Blegium
>>222909002No, why would there be tensions? As long as the frenchoids don't try to randomly take the area over again there are no issues
>>222909147That is pretty funny looking at it on a map, we should make this reality to annoy the french
>>222909728Himmler tried it with Ordensstaat Burgund
>>222909147Wallonia if it gun
How long until the Flemish and Walloons merge into one united identity?
Are Belgians nice? I think it would be interesting to visit one dayI am a nonwhite btw
>>222911331la creatura de los paises bajos
>>222907033Why does no one pick German? Is it because French is just easier or because the most aspirational career in Luxembourg is becoming a Eurocrat?
>>222911997walloon subversion, half the country speaks french, while a tiny minority speaks german, so people naturally are incentivized to go for fr*nch. Slowly, but surely, more dutchies are being infested with the fr*nch language.one day the walloon menace will pay for their transgressions against humanity
>>222911997I presume it's just easier for the Portuguese to pick up than German, and everyone there knows it as a second language anyway so why bother
>>222911391As far as I know they are very snobish
>>222915032we are the CEO of racism, we are racists towards ourselves because we rejected the Enlightenment
>>222914084I wonder why people choose French
>>222916176I wonder too, seeing how 100% of french speaking men sound like homosexuals
>>222917972you should hear Dutch
>>222918103Says the W*lloon. Stfu nerd.
>>222918103we did, it sounds human, not like nigger loving fr*nch
>>222919561dutch sounds human, sure lol
>>222907094>Crossing the Rhine is like entering a parody of human behaviorcrossing from the left bank to the right, yes
>>222900932the schizo phase of ethnic provincialism
>>222922012It's ok walloonigger you lost you can stop
>>222922308When wallons were in charge, Belgium was the 5th economic power and second industrial power of the worldNow that the flemish took over since the 70's, Belgium is known for nothing except division and provincialism.
>>222916176>>222918103Informally we don't speak standard dutch to each other but a regional dialect. Your meme is wrong.
>>222923046>in my village we don't say "hoe gaat het" but "hee goat hut", therefore you're wrong
>>222923225 You've never met any Flemish person.
>>222923358oh what a bummer
Lmao you guys still hate each other while you did not have a war in God knows how long and while most of your cities are overflowing with 3rd world trash in scary quantities.I found a place more sad than the Balkans.
>>222906627>>222907954>provides zero (O) examplesMarc Dutroux doesn't count either
>>222900566This literally doesnt matter at all because both will be ethnically replaced by arabs and subsaharans
>>222924272Belgium is known for guns (FN), beers and comics; all walloon, except beers which is shared
>>222907221You can clearly see two groups of cunts.Those who still think money and debt is real, and those who have stopped giving a fuck. Then there's Finland, lost and clueless between the two.
>>222924592why has finland such relatively high debt compared to sweden?
The belgians should unironically sue Hochschild for damages considering he fabricated a genocide. Dude can't even go one page without blatantly lying.
>>222924727Sweden has something we don't: Good neighbors
>>222924758the brits were just butthurt they didn't get pieces of congo after "saving" Belgium in WWISo their propaganda went from "Prussians are cutting the hands of Belgian children" to "Belgians are cutting the hands of Africans"
>>222924758>The belgians should unironically sue Hochschild for damages considering he fabricated a genocide.Huh
>>222925212It's honestly nuts. He takes quotes and omits parts to make them mean exactly the opposite of what the quoted said and outright fabricates statistics and claims.
>>222924763is it because of that bitch Sanna Marin who fucked up the country?
>>222925309I find this desire to desecrate your own history as disgusting. Sure, I would not repeat those acts even if they happened, but this did untold damage to you. Might have been pushed by you know who, I don't wanna get banned, but it's not like it didn't find fertile ground. You feel too much guilt, classic for a civilisationg. You've lost an ability to feel pride. Everyone did crimes. We are not more holy because we are more poor and mostly on the losing side.
>>222925212jew made up the kongo genocide, blaming king Leopold and the belgians for african native practices of mass cutting off hands - despite the belgians ending slavery, introducing modern medicine, setting up a path for more reliable infrastructure, ending cannibalism, pushing out arab slave traders in the kongo area and bankrupting the crown's personal funds as a result in one of the most expensive humanitarian projects in recent history. All with a measly few thousand men, in an area filled with dozens of millions of hostile africans
>>222925416Interesting, that's funny lmao. I never gave a crap. we used to have sociology class in my high school. It was FULL of shit like that. Rosa Luxembourg and MLK, no joke. We were sleeping through it and no one gave a fuck. I remember I did a presenation once and just added cartoon caricature of kike hand picture with straight lines and triangles like in those memes. Good times. I despised the teacher.It's so hilarious about how some liberals and you know who thought this subject up. Teaching random Balkanites about black people suffering. Yeah, they suffered, I don't give a single flying shit.
>>222925385>desire to desecrate your own history as disgustingnobody does this willingly, it's just jews subverting history, then sending out dozens of horror propaganda versions of history to europeans. If taken at face value, most rational and sane people would condemn the actions, but they are unaware of the subversive and blatantly dishonest jewish nature, leading to them parroting their points due to it being propped up by either propped up academics, media and history books that are so ingrained at this point and widespread, that pointing out inconsistencies, puts you in the inhumane group due to widespread acceptance of the widespread lies.
>>222925532I agree but there is something to say about civilisations breeding weaker and weaker men over time.
>>222925570There is truth in that, but another layer people forget is that the current states are no longer decentralized kingdoms limited by long communications lines, privacy is essentially erased with social media and electronic devices, dropping technology also isnt a solution, since you might as well give up on society at that point since its so ingrained into it. There is a reason why even third world shitholes have smartphones and internet access everywheremy view is, best hope the jews swallow their own poison of modern™ values, and end up subverting themselves. Because like all great societies, elites end up dumbing down the population for easier control, but in the process their own heirs drink their own kool aid as well and get more retarded as a result as well.
>>222925769I agree we cannot drop technology. Just stating the obvious. There is no solution to the fall and rise of man, the civilization, the universe, it is natural and something we should accept. We should always strive to put it off, but it is inevitable. This is why people became spiritual in the first place. Well, one of the reasons. We all die and everything created will be dust. Scipio, after razing Carthage, lamented it's fall and knew that Rome will one day fall as well, and cited Homer. Europe's fall, it's western half at least, will be quite sad for the world if it's final.
>>222925838I think one of the problems regarding the falls of civilizations is something that cannot be afforded anymore. If these countries wouldn't have nukes, then it would just be acceptable as another page in the history books, but the fact that there is a risk of MAD scenario unfolding due to irresponsible hands getting hands on these weapons makes the fall of the modern civilizations an unacceptable risk not just for them, but humanity and the world as well.Anyways, not much point in discussing this, its not like average people have a say in these things, just wish our elected "leaders" weren't so greedy and/or retarded and thought more of long term stability and the risks that ignoring it could cause not just for our kids, but their future generations as well.
>>222926047>Anyways, not much point in discussing this, its not like average people have a say in these thingsAll we need is one charismatic, smart, virtuous and experienced guy standing out from the "average" pool and imprinting himself on the world. Just one. History can be changed by a single man.I can't help but discussing shit however. A curious soul inevitably talks in something that doesn't concern it's immediate benefit.
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>>222907817>Clovis from Tournai created FranceOh please, Tournai is 5km from France and was part of France multiple times during the last 1000 years
>>222909147It's no wonder that the french hate the americans.