It seems so strange to me that some countries are so young that they have only existed for 250 years
the us is just an economic zone not a country
>>222906742The Russian federation is only 34 years old...
>>222907395>The Russian federation is only 34 years old...but the Russia is more then 1000 years already. The Russian Federation is the successor of the USSR, the Russian Empire, the Russian Tsardom, etc.The history of Russia begins in 862.
>>222908286History of the US begins way earlier as well, with Indigenous American wars, a Viking settlement attempt and then other Indigenous American shenanigans
>>222908723The history of tje US arguably goes back all the way to 1000 bc, since that's the time the canaan kingdoms of israel and judah came to be.
>>222906742>It seems so strange to me that some countries are so young that they have only existed for 250 years
>>222908286The first americans crossed the bering straight 30,000 years ago doebeit....
>>222909346History of USA is white people history. Nobody normal cares about the rest. These people would have zero history to speak of if Anglos didn't come to write it down.
>>222909346>The first americans crossed the bering straight 30,000 years ago doebeit....and? And our first people arrived in Europe one million years ago. But there wasn't USA 30,000 years ago. America as an independent state dates back to 1776(18th century), while Russia's first state emerged back in 862(9th century).
>>222908723>History of the US begins way earlier as well, with Indigenous American wars, a Viking settlement attempt and then other Indigenous American shenanigansThis is more of a prehistory, like the European countries when pagan tribes lived on the site of the state.The history of the United States, if you dig deeper than the declaration of independence, stems from the British colonization of North America. It certainly has nothing in common with the Vikings and Native Americans, otherwise every European country could just as easily believe their history stretches back millions of years, not the actual thousands.
>>222908286>but the Russia is more then 1000 years already.and that's your idea of old? what the fuck were you even doing before that?
>>222910331>while Russia's first state emerged back in 862(Actually that's Ukraine's history now chud. In fact, the cucuteni-reptillians of Ukraine are around 10 000 years old.
>>222909426The Dutch and the Spanish predate Anglos here.Why do people who want to talk the most shit about American history seem to know the least? The Russian made the same mistake.
>>222910722Dutch predate but it was a relatively minor presence in the continent, Spanish do predate but they did not give a shit about the native history at all. Mesoamerican history is made difficult precisely because of the fact that Spanish looted and burned so much, not to mention that there was a plague both before and after the Spaniards left.The incentive to know other people's history to an autistic degree is primarily Anglo's fixation that they spread everywhere else. The sandniggers in MENA did not give a shit about "their" own history until the Anglos came, studied and took everything they could find, and MENA only got pissed long after the fact because white people evil. That they were looting their own historical treasure and ignoring it for centuries, they paid no heed.They are "men of the moment" just like Europeans were in archaic times.
>>222910877What I mean - history of the American continent and America itself exists outside of Anglos but it is primarily an Anglo history owing to the fact that Anglos were the primary movers of the American statehood, Anglos were the primary colonisers and Anglos were writing down other people's history. Nobody cares about the rest. History of the Viking settlement in America can be summarised on 1 page for everyone but college graduates of pre-Columbian colonisation, where you can stretch it to infinite pages when you get into circlejerking about blades, interaction and pottery and material culture in general. Again, nobody cares about all that. And you inherently know that pre-Columbian history is not your history. History of US begins with Columbus, not with baboon north American natives who did not know shit about themselves and you most probably know more about their ancestors than they did.
America starts at 1607
>>222911010>The amount of times that some retarded euro will argue to the ends of the earth that WW2 didn't start in 1929 is laughableIt didn't. It's a WORLD war we are talking about. WORLD war. I repeat, WORLD WAR. It's not that hard.
By the way, in case you did not know, I avoided the term European, because Serbia is not an English country and as you may know we did not colonise you in the 15th century. And you can suppose that I do not equate myself to the English and other Europeans because I talked about nationalities, and even avoided the term white, but I may have slipped somewhere.
>>222906849you're thinking of the eu
>>222906742The concept of a nation is quite recent anyway. It would be quite disingenuous to call Egypt a 6000 year old country.
>>222908286using the same logic the US is the successor to Anglo Saxon England and is more than 1000 years old
>>222908286nice try holhol tranny but it actually starts in 753bc
>>222906742Have you ever noticed how thirdies are so obsessed with the word "we'. Perhaps it is because of lack of recent achievement, but these people for whom you use the word "we" from would not have recognized your language or shared your current interpretation of religion, which you don't really have any more. Despite this, you are invading and killing a "them" which shares both your tongue and lack of religion in the present day.Even the thirdies who are being nice to us are wrong here. White people in america do not exist to themselves. It is a thirdist interpretation of who we are. "We" do not belong in museums, "we" are the people who put other cultures in museums. The universal culture. Our laws of nature are universal, our laws of philosophy are universal. Our (many) religions are universal. "We" don't need to justify ourselves to you, it is the other way around. You even have fake elections by which to justify your pathetic dictatorship's claim to power. Justify to who? To us, and your own citizens who believe in our universal laws.>>222912005Mythologically, yes. But really, such a culture would only come much later, during the late republic/early empire.
>>222912455To whom did America justify itself when they elected a negro president?
>>222908286>but the Russia is more then 1000 years already.Oh no no no hahhahaha they really believe this
>>222908286America has been historically remarkably stable and aside from the civil war never significantly and suddenly changed its political system, so they seem to think that this is a reliable proxy of how old a country is. At times this does get really silly, like when they claim the fifth republic in France is very meaningfully different from the fourth, therefore France has only been around since 1958.
>>222906742Europeans started settling and colonizing the Americas 500 years ago and then they eventually became countries of their own. What is so strange about it and what is your point?
>>222912455What?
>>222906742USA is an economic zone of England
>>222909346Those were ancient Japanese tribes
>>222906742Rome wasn't built in one day. It's like when fags come and say Spain is only 500 years old and somehow it invalidates everything happening before it. Did Spain pop up like mushrooms after a rain? No, its character was being forged for centuries. Calling it Spain was just a formality.
>>222911606>using the same logic the US is the successor to Anglo Saxon England and is more than 1000 years oldNo!
>>222912567>Oh no no no hahhahaha they really believe thisTell me, what am I wrong about?
>>222912455>Have you ever noticed how thirdies are so obsessed with the word "we'. Perhaps it is because of lack of recent achievement, but these people for whom you use the word "we" from would not have recognized your language or shared your current interpretation of religion, which you don't really have any more. Despite this, you are invading and killing a "them" which shares both your tongue and lack of religion in the present day.Western Europeans literally mock America by telling us that their home or their local pub is older than the US.Are they 3rd World People?
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>>222908286Ukraine is the successor of Rus, RF is the successor of the Mongols
>>222906742the USA are older than Italy that was born in 1861
>>222917784>Are they 3rd World People?Yeah
>>222918000It's funny that not a single Ukrainian pseudo-historian who tells such nonsense will ever debate with Russian historians to prove their point of view.Ask yourself, why is there still no debate among Russian and Ukrainian historians about who is the real successor of Rus' and whether Russia is Mongolia's heir? Perhaps there's something wrong with the Ukrainian propaganda version of history? Many Russian historians challenged so-called historians from Ukraine to debates, but Ukrainian "historians" were refusing, opting instead to debate with ordinary people via chatroulette.
America started its decline in 1655 when the perfidious Dutch stole New Sweden.
>>222906742whats strange about it, theres almost no african county, except ethiopia, morocco and egypt thats older than 80 yearstheres madagadcar (1540), liberia (1847), and south africa (1910) thats it
>>222911575Personally we cope by technically still being a kingdom and hence being the same state as in the 1500s
>>222921545Yes, but these countries are generally poor and holes without influence where local people live like primitive times with the exception of the cities built by Europeans, which are now in decline and resemble the dark Middle Ages, while the US is a global leader, influencing countries around the world (including old Europe), producing films and music consumed worldwide, as well as technology, clothing, and so on. It generally sells the "American dream" to the world. And the US, unlike countries in Africa, still has a high standard of living, or is on par with Western Europe, despite all its shortcomings.In this regard, America is very surprising.
>>222921545>except ethiopia, morocco and egypt>theres madagadcar (1540), liberia (1847), and south africa (1910)?
>>222921733happens ig, the european old power fell off by fighting another and the americans are in the best geographic position in the world>>222922157originally i meant beyond the sahara
