Are there major secessionist movements in your country? And if so, do you think that they’re likely to succeed?
I don't support Scottish independence, but I support Shetlandic independence.
>>222934748Why?
>>222934783it's their oil and bongs shouldn't be leeching off them
>>222934827You could say that about literally every region of a country that has natural resources though
Scottish independence always felt like a massive meme with no real backing from the local population. How would they even benefit from independence? Usually regions want independence either because of discrimination or because the rest of the country leeches off of them. Scotland doesn't seem to fill either of this criteria
>>222934691Our Albertans right now, and historically the Quebecois. The Albertans are unlikely to secede.
>>222934748Shetland and Orkney were literally the most pro-UK/anti-independence parts of Scotland in the 2014 Vote
>>222934691I don't support Scottish independence because when i used to support them they were given right to vote about it but voted no, so now im against it, they should stay under the rule of English. Fuck Scots
>>222935722It has real backing from the population, but whether they have legitimate grievances or not is up to your personal opinion.The meme about Scotland being "oppressed" is definitely retarded and a product of modern day Victim Glorification culture (the more supposedly victimized and oppressed you are = more social capital). Scotland is no more oppressed by the UK than Massachusetts is "oppressed" by the US Federal Government or Tasmania is "oppressed" by the Australian government. However, the the Brexit referendum provided some genuine fuel to the Indy movement since it was an indisputably retarded disaster which Scotland voted against but has to bear the consequences of still.
>>222935740Do you think Quebec is more likely? My understanding is that the Canadian government basically bribes them to stay in the country, and gives them more independence than the rest of Canada
>>222934691no, not even the britons or corsicans care anymorethey're french
Every election has states claiming they’ll secede. I wish they would but they never will.
>>222934691I want everyone to forget about us like they do WalesNow because of the world cup and faggots instead of thinking about braveheart, highlander or at worst train spotting everyone thinks their holocaust larp tier stories are true"Did you know in Scotland there's an entire generation of men who struggle to walk because the english took turns shagging them to death"Go back to calling us smackheads who deep fry whatever the fuck please
>>222935885The polls lately show most Quebecois have accepted they aren't breaking away. But it's still a higher percentage than Albertans.
>>222935740so that stuff in infinite jest was real? I thought it was just the ramblings of an addict.
>>222934691Puerto Rico is the only serious one I can think of. Hawaii separatism is a meme propagated by japs and chinks pretending to be native Hawaiians
>>222937209Real, Braveheart has done irreparable damage to yanks view of Scotland
>>222935926noooo, they looked kino.
>>222937564How much damage did Corsican separatists do before reaching a truce with the French government?
>>222937674in my opinion? not enough.
>>222935926>>222937564Have there been any paramilitaries/major separatist action in Brittany in recent history or does Breton separatism have less support than Corsican?
>>222935722scottish independence campaigners say that scotland is "discriminated against" in the british parliament, because their population is so much lower than england's their MPs never number high enough to make a difference. they have their own parliament as well but it doesn't count because the british parliament has supremacy when they contradict each otherthey also think england "leeches" off of scotland because supposedly the north sea oil would entirely be scotland's and they could be norway tier if they were independent. i've even seen independence posters saying england "stole" trillions of dollars worth of scottish oil in the largest "theft" in historythey're not really based in reality obviously but i do sympathise, losing your sovereignty to become a junior partner of a larger entity is exactly why we voted to leave the EU
>>222937519There was a violent separatist group named the FLQ that kidnapped the Quebec labour minister and killed him. There was a referendum in 1995 to see whether Quebec should declare sovereignty that lost by only over one percentage point. Now the Albertans are crying about muh independence because they're brainwashed by AI-generated slop and MAGA memes they see on Facebook.
>>222934691YesNo
>>222937209kek my girlfriend's grandmother is Scottish and the one time I saw her she immediately told me how back then the English would launch raids into Scotland to rape the local women and then skidaddle again
>>222939884thats true howeverwe used to raid the english too
>>222939797>MAGA memes they see on FacebookWould you say a bigger portion of the Albertan separatist movement supports Alberta remaining it’s own country or joining the US?
>>222939884>>222939916Yeah, everyone did that to everyone, thats just what medieval history is like
>>222939916>>222940070She wasn't talking about the middle ages, from what I could gather she meant some time after the act of union
>>222940110The Anglo-Scottish border was mostly pacified by the 18th centuryhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_reivers
>>222940110wat
>>222934691We have Malay secessionists in the south, but Malaysia didn't want them. They were a lot like the IRA at the start and became more Islamist over time
>>222940110Just an old bat speaking out her arse
>>222934748based
>>222934691NO. there are none. this is because my country is made up of fake borders and fake people who have no history here.
>>222934827They are bongs.
>>222934691nono
>>222940529>Malaysia didn't want themSo their original goal was to join Malaysia, but then since Malaysia wouldn’t accept that their goal is now to become an independent Islamic state?
>>222934691we had several but they were either violently suppressed or died out because borderless racemixing > stability
>>222941452Unrelated to the OP, but how big is the difference the areas of Poland formerly under the German Empire and the areas not? I see it seems to influence politics, but I’m just in what other ways these areas are different to each other
>>222941563>borderless racemixing > stabilitySo the ethnic difference between areas in Brazil has decreased in recent history?
>>222934691Didn't they vote no? It was like their one chance to finally be free after hundreds of years and they voted to remain with England. Ultimate cuckoldry.
>>222941693Yeah, they voted majority no in the 2014 referendum.
>>222941693>Ultimate cuckoldry.It's the other way around. Scots have always been disproportionately represented in the British administration and military. Scotland has its own devolved parliament and receives far more funding than it generates.England is Scotland's bitch.
>>222934691Meh, we have a tiny minority of neoconfederates in the south, cascadia hippies / wignats in the Pacific Northwest, and some anarchist larpers that pop off every now and then.
>>222941817England is basically bribing them not to secede, like what I gather is the situation with Quebec
>>222941869>anarchist larpers that pop off every now and thenYou think things like CHAZ will happen more often going forward?
>>222941794>the multicultural cities want independence meanwhile the very scottish countryside wants to stay in the UKthat's bizarre
>>222941958Anarchist larpers are still around and still pretty cringe and retarded so maybe
>>222935838>is "oppressed" by the Australian government. However, the the Brexit referendum provided some genuine fuel to the Indy movement since it was an indisputably retarded disasterNo it absolutely what was, why are you lying?
>>222943004>what was,*was not
>>222935838>>222943004>>222943069Basically, the EU fucks countrys up, leaving the EU gave the UK the freedom to not get fucked up, the UK government still fucked the UK up, just to a lesser degree that what the EU would have done
>>222943205Nothing the EU could have done woulda been half as harmful as the boriswave and the 1984 shit your government is doing now
>>222941692not too much, but the internet allowed people to look things up for themselves instead of just going with the existing biases, education improved, fetishizing people from other regions became more widespread, people travel more, migrate more, etc.I grew up in 90s São Paulo and interstate/international marriages skyrocketed where I live, but it feels seamless because the vast majority are from South America, with a few Russians and Chinese here and thereso at least in my country people seem to want to grow closer rather than apart
>>222934691Nope, none
>>222935722>because of discriminationHighlanders were basically driven into cultural extinction in the 19th century and then lowlanders started wearing their skin as a costume. As later as the 2000's the Scottish language was discriminated against by the government, despite Welsh getting better treatment despite having less speakers. Likely because the government wasn't afraid of Wales leaving.>or because the rest of the country leeches off of themWell the English government believed that an independent Scotland would have become the next Switzerland if they became independent.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCrone_report
>>222940249Pacified by sending them to Ulster, thus giving us border problems.
>>222941817>England is Scotland's bitch.scotland's a dole dosser
>>222934691YeahNah..
>>222935816
>>222942105Leader of the Scottish Nationalists was literally a Kenyan-Pakistani Muslim called Hamza Youssef for a bit
>>222947145kek what white people are really weird
>>222945334>Highlanders were basically driven into cultural extinction in the 19th century and then lowlanders started wearing their skin as a costume.That's just the Scottish version of the Closure of the Commons tbf, shit like this happens to any country where agriculture modernizes and suddenly one farmer is more efficient than 100 could ever be.
>>222935926Free Corsica
South Tyrol tried to secede after WW2 and even had a guerrilla IRA-like movement (very small, but it existed) that planted bomb here and there and did some skirmishes with the police. I think apart from some post offices exploding and a couple of dead people over the course of the decade 50-60s, nothing really happened.After that, we talked about it like civilized people and came to an agreement, so that now South Tryol can write the names of their cities in German and we have a shitton of athletes called Luigi Muller that win gold medals at the winter Olympics. It's a win for everyone really.
>>222948695Free? In that case I'll take six
>>222948695GIVE IT BACK FROGS
>>222941519More or less, yes
