If you're wondering how a bunch of priests (Brahmins) came to dominate even emperors and colonizers and made them endure humiliation rituals for their ritual sanction, this is how:>Exclusive custodianship of the 3500-year-old Vedic chants>Passed down exclusively through oral tradition, something that takes decades to master, so they're passed down completely unchanged from generation to generation despite the corpus being extremely lengthy>Foreigners and lower castes killed for even listening to the chants>Royalty, aristocrats, wealthy landlords and merchants compelled to have these chants ritually sanction their coronation and other auspicious occasions for broader acceptance by Hindu society>So if they, as a group, decided to go against the royalty, there's nothing they could do about it because no one else knew these chants. They HAD to bend the knee to their demands.These fuckers make me insecure despite coming from a ruling lineage because they're the only group of humans I know to have preserved their culture unaltered for 3500 years and leveraged it to dominate multiple civilizations (the entire Indosphere) without ever lifting a weapon.Even non-Hindu invaders like the Mughals and the British had to shut up and endure their humiliation rituals to preserve harmony in their society.They used to build separate pavilions for the Brits to meet them and the Brits had to cover their mouths when they spoke so that they wouldn't "pollute the air they breathed." Even their aristocrats had to do this despite ruling a third of the world.Today, anyone can listen to these chants and learn them on youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ganE_hWxNQ
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>>222934743>These fuckers make me insecure despite coming from a ruling lineageSounds like someone wants to get the axe again, Kuckshtriya
>>222937440You potbellies need to be proud of the fact that you managed to culturally dominate multiple civilizations without any weapons.You don't need to kang as insecure Cuckshurama warriors. Leave that to your Kshatriya overlords.
who cares? in the end of the day you are the one to get hit by a train
>The Australian pedophile graces use with its highly esteemed presence
>dr. poo used seething and projection>it is ineffective>it shows it's lack of self-awareness
>>222934743>moo some cow moos in cow tongue>cow people worship youis it that easy?
>>222937934It's not just the cow people. It's also the dog people and the snake people.
and also the britisher please don't forget
>>222938007It goes even further if we include even the Kshatriya (Buddhist) sphere of influence.Pic related is the Brahmin + Kshatriya sphere of cultural influence.
>>222934743Interesting thread. If I'm understanding you correctly, these Vedic chants are a major source of Brahmin power? I still don't quite understand the effect of these chants. What was stopping colonists and others with greater physical power from telling these priests to shut the fuck up?
>>222938054That's a dalit. This is how the upper castes treated the highest-ranking Britisher aristocrats.
>>222934743>so they're passed down completely unchanged from generation to generationThis never happens btw
>>222934743The role of brahmins was no different than the role of priests in the middle ages
>>222938132>I still don't quite understand the effect of these chantsIt's not about the power of the chants. It's about the historical prestige. They're 3500 years old and they're almost exclusively passed down orally, so if they lose Brahmins, those chants are lost to history.And they are a central aspect of Hindu society.>>222938194The difference is that Brahmins passed down their chants orally. That's how they hoarded religious power.
>>222938132It's easier to respect local traditions if you want to rule over them.Cyrus did the same with Marduk when he invaded mesopotamia.This legitimised the role of Marduk priests, but deep down everyone knew Cyrus was the real power
>>222938254>The difference is that Brahmins passed down their chants orally. That's how they hoarded religious power.It fulfills the same function as the Church's apostolic succession
>>222938132>What was stopping colonists and others with greater physical power from telling these priests to shut the fuck up?nothing really. look at how indian were forced to use cow fat (their holy animal) for british war effort. that's the kind of dominance op was talking about.>>222938157yall pajeet to me lmao
>>222938161It takes decades to master them and they use many recitation techniques to ensure they’re transmitted with maximum fidelity.
>>222938254That means the priests have successfully convinced Britishers and other rulers that those chants are THE pillar of Hindu society, which is quite a bold claim and probably quite farfetched for any clear thinker.Well anyway, how did the Mughals react when the Brahmins tried pushing their self-professed importance?
>>222938402Every religious order will claim that
>>222938316I can appreciate this point but surely one of the non-Hindu rulers of India would've managed to co-opt those priests? Surely it would've been worth trying.
>>222938435Neither the Mughals nor the British tried to uproot the pre-existing Hindu social order because doing so would have made it harder to maintain stable rule. Instead, they made arrangements with Hindu elites, resulting in a mutually beneficial relationship for both sides.It was the lower castes and the morally principled elites who cared about their people who continued to suffer. The immoral elites almost always came out ahead, regardless of who ruled over them.
>>222938157if only indians still thought eurowomen have cooties...
>>222938132Nothing at all. Hence why Islam, not Brahminism, was dominant in India and growing up until the British arrivedWithout the British making use of the religious divide, these chants, and Brahminism as a whole, would have gone extinct a century ago
>>222938591why do you always need invaders to help you run your own country? why can't you defend and run it yourself? is ubereat also a form of dominance you were talking about?
>>222934743non christian civilisations are truly fucked upI'm glad I'm a westerner
>>222937572Rivers of Kshatriya blood shall flow once more. The son of Jamadagni still walks the earth.
>>222938540They did I think, somewhat.The mughals employed brahmins in their court
>>222938643>Conveniently leaving out the Hindu Maratha Empire which reclaimed India from the Muslims...
>>222934743>>222938157How can they be so obsessed with cleanliness and avoiding pollution while also living in the most unclean and polluted country in the world?
>>222938699what are you talking about? where's my ubereat delivery?>>222938721>1759british ruled india from 1757 to 1947. curious...
>>222938764This is how Indian cities looked before industrialization, plastic and overcrowding.
>>222938879Here's a painting of The Palace of Udaipur by the Japanese artist Hiroshi Yoshida (1876-1950).
>>222938879>>222938943all designed by mughal (muslim) invaders btw. pajeet only get to do construction (slave) work
>>222938817Marathas and Mughals humiliated the British when the British fought them alone without any traitorous Indian allies.The British only defeated the Marathas after a traitorous faction of the Marathas allied with them.that's how they conquered India. They didn't win a single war without Indian allies.
>>222938977Those temples are older than Islam, retard.
>>222938989who cares? you still need your invader to help fight against your new invader, and still lose anyway
>>222939076Marathas are native Indians.
>>222938764Because brahmins are only 3% of the population. 80% of Indians today had ancestors that never participated in the society. It's like a cancerous tumor that grows so big that it consumes 80% of the body and assumes the identity of the body
>>222939098mughal did the heavy lifting, you were just cannon fodders for them>>222939017>pajeet doesn't know it's own historyyour national iq is like 67 so it's understandable
>>222939165In the other thread, I thought you might be a Paki but you truly are a retard timmy. Who exactly do you think the Rajputs are?
>>222934743Hilarious. The most disgustingly filthy people on the planet think they're above anyone else.
>>222939165How's the weather down there, Ahmed? Your esl posting points you out like a sore thumb. Are you proud of being a sepoy? Or did your two state theory work out well considering how India buckbroke Pakistan many times
>>222939165What part about "temples" don't you understand, Achmed, you retard? I'm talking about the temples in Thanjavur.
>>222939321muslim rape baby
>>222939352oh that pile of shit? it looks horrible of course a pajeet built it
>>222939337You’re finally starting to understand the caste system.It doesn’t matter how "clean" you are, how much wealth you accumulate, how much power you consolidate or how good you look. In their eyes, you’ll always be beneath them because they see your bloodline and soul as spiritually inferior. That is how the upper castes view you.The Romans didn’t start admiring the barbarians simply because they invaded Rome and the Chinese didn’t start revering the Mongols simply because they conquered China.An 8000-year-old civilization is never going to acknowledge 1000- or 2000-year-old civilizations that happened to get lucky enough to conquer it.
>>222939595Lmao what are you talking about? Those same kshatriyas and brahmins sucked off the Europeans and mughals. The rajputs and marathas were good Bois who raped at the whim of the mughals and paid their taxes on time until a shudra decided to be free. Let's not forget how the potbellied brahmins refused to coronate him until he threatened to take their lands away. For all the prowess of the supposed caste bred for war and strategy, they were easily steam rolled by commoner foreigners. The brahmins for all their boasting about intellectual capacity didn't contribute much towards the development of science or the modern world
India needed a cultural revolution like China
>>222939714The funny thing about Brahmins is that they have a lower fluid IQ (novel problem solving ability) than Vaishyas and Kshatriyas, with Vaishyas having the highest fluid IQ.They probably have a higher crystallized IQ because their job involved a lot of memorization.
>>222934743interesting thread
>>222939714Not all Kshatriyas are Rajputs.Reddys (Saira Chinnapa Reddy and Uyyalawada Narasimha Reddy) were among the first to rebel against the British>inb4 all South Indian non-Brahmins are shudrasReddys have>Inscriptions from the 11th and 13 centuries detailing their Solar and Lunar lineages>Sacred threads>Rishi gotras>Intermarried with the Wodeyars who themselves are Kshatriyas and intermarried with the RajputsSo yeah, they are Kshatriyas.
