>>222937665
LMFAO

Only poor people need to know how to use that.

A worthless skill when you can drive good cars

>>222937665
it's weird to think there are places where manual isn't the norm

>>222937665
they tried to sell me an automatic last time, how dare these motherfuckers, that’s like calling me a mouthbreathing retard

Why would you WANT to drive manual? It's just another chore to be bothered with

>>222937786
SAAAAAAAAR

>>222937977
because i dont want to spend $1500 every year for transmission repairs

>>222937977
Poverty

>>222937665
It's easy to spot new drivers (or americans) ((or women)) because they love to brag about driving a manual. They feel the need to show everyone how they don't stall anymore (they still do) and how they barely roll backwards when starting on a hill and how smoothly they shift gears. The bar is so brutally low.

>>222937977
Because it's not a chore unless you're retarded or extremely new to it. It involves nothing.


>>222938072
Also this. Manual transmissions reward good drivers and punish shitty ones. It can last 10 years if you're not retarded, or it needs to be changed after a year or two. Even when it "needs" to be changed, you can still drive with it, you just need to adjust your shifting.

>>222937665
Manual is only good for a weekend car when you want to feel an enjoyment from a driving and be entirely focused at it

>>222938197
if your brain doesn’t tell your arm to shift without actually thinking about it you are literally a brainlet.

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>>222938133
Yanks be driving manuals and making their whole personality about it.

"Hey Cody dude wanna hop in my ride I drive stick"

This is going to be like AC isnt it, where europeans are smug about being pointlessly backwards until 20 years from now where they’ll all be adopting automatic anyway

>>222938197
After a week of driving stick I stopped thinking about it and don't remember stalling since. If you get any mental load doing it, you're too stupid to drive in general.

>>222938527
The difference there is that the heat is an actual problem whereas driving stick isn't a problem or something that requires skill or even effort.

>>222937665
30 muslims just entered this thread to seethe about manual. Why are these shitbrown sandniggers so godamned annoying?

Just realized mexiricans manage to have a way higher on road mortality rate despite driving automatics. The concept of ever having any issue on the road while driving a simplified toy you pay 1600 dollars a month for (only 214 more months to cover! yay!)

>>222938622
I remember my dad very seriously telling me to STOP fucking around with the shitt, I was like 4 years old.

>>222937977
So you can pretend your reaction time can somehow beat computer driven actions that are programmed by 4.5 foot tall sexless Japanese engineers who spent 5 million hours programming and tuning engines.

They can totally beat a cars ECU if they try real hard, trust me bro.

not a single reason not rooted in old problems to not drive automatic
I did learn how to use manual and could do it but I never saw why it is anything else but a chore

>>222937977
the latest cope is that manual helps you prevent alzheimer's.

>>222938828
you are a disgrace to the millennia old tradition of finnish rally

>>222938902
I never liked the whole motor culture myself
watching rallies and the crowd is cringefest
also there isnt anything traditional about a tech that came here under 100 years ago

>>222938543
It should be like breathing. You just do it without (over)thinking.

Are we gonna start acting proud about having roll-up windows next?

americans are proud of their automatic transmission glorified mobility scooters.
couldn’t be me.

>>222937665
I've driven manual for the first couple of years after getting the license, then I got an automatic and never looked back.

>>222937665
Only new cars are automatic here = something only a retard would buy since cars haven't been good since the 90's.

>>222938527
everyone drives automatics here already. manuals are being phased out

>>222937665
It’s rather annoying on heavy traffic

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The interesting thing is that neither the clutch pedal nor the gearstick is attached to anything mechanical past their respective housings – they are merely the actuators for the DCT. But contained in both are the precise feedbacks associated with the operation of a manual gearbox. And it feels weirdly perfect.

The tactility is the thing that reinforces the impression - there’s a familiar weight to the clutch (turns out it’s 15kg, the same as the last manual Ferrari, the 599), the same self-centered springing to the gearstick, itself the usual aluminium cylinder atop a slim wand of Ferraris of yore. The mechanical feedbacks feels exactly – and we mean precisely – as they should. And yet, that mechanical feeling is purely that - a system designed from the core block of machined billet steel to replicate the sensations of a manual while being connected by nothing but electricity.

It’s a true ‘by-wire’ system, so the gearstick and clutch only provide signals for the actuation of those first six gears of the DCT, plus reverse. And yet there’s such sophistication here that there’s almost force feedback from the pedal and stick. So precise are the algorithms that if you’re wonky with the inputs, you’ll be rewarded with a jerky start or even a stall - all part of the experience, says Ferrari.

>>222937665
I hate modern cars and it's basically impossible to find a 30+ year old ride with automatic transmission here so all my cars so far have been manual.
But I drive automatic at work (delivery van) and it's ok.

>>222937786
In america manuals demand a premium

>>222938847
LMFAO I actually laughed out loud.
First air conditioning and now this. Yurop is finished

it's waste of time

>>222937665
More like I don't need it because there's literally no point to going outside.

>>222937665
Had no choice but to learn since all the driving school cars were manuals. And my first car (Volvo 940) was also manual.
But these days I drive a 1974 Dodge Dart. Slant 6, automatic. It's slow as a turd, suspension is more boat than car, drum brakes all around, no AC, crank windows and still has a cassette player. I love it.

what advantages does it have?

>>222938527
thing is none here ever was smug about driving manual it was just the norm, our grandma drove manual. where as you made it into a thing because you all drove autos.

>>222937977
So I don't get bored

>>222939578
love how the swedish cruising culture gives no fuck about performance, if it moves under its own power then its a cruiser, 4, 6, 8 cylinders, diesel or gas, V or inline, turbo or na, who cares?

>>222940307
Don't forget 4 door. I'd say that's one of the most important features so you can pack your friends in without issues.

>>222939937
none

>>222940366
or wagon.. thats my only beef with that culture, i personally want 2 door and some kind of performance, but i can accept 6cyl performance. or a diesel swap. i just dont want that extra pair of doors.

>>222937804
Good cars have manuals tho

>>222937665
wrong

>>222937977
It's more fun.
Forces you to be in tune with your speed and the engine. With automatic you can doze off more easily while the car goes faster and faster.

>>222940925
Carfags say this so I trust them

>>222940925
this, I luv engine brake also

>>222938786
It's not about reaction, retard. I know what I'm about to do while the automatic has to guess. It can't predict.

I settled for an automatic and it just redpilled me about the retard that is the average person, and also has made me feel like an npc cuck

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>>222937665
i can drive manual, i just don't have a fixation on constant jerking while driving

>>222941043
Such a complex, unpredictable, mysterious mind.

Not the finest automotive engineers in the world could possibly conceive the inner workings of this anons cognitive functions.

>>222940925
on my drive from the closest town north of me to the closest town south i need to shift down 3 times, the rest is done on 6th gear. (god i love diesels)
tell me, how is this fun? in a 3 hour drive you have to shift 3 times. are you eagerly waiting for an hour to shift down or are you f&f style shifting constantly when you dont need to?

>>222939343
Yeah, because manuals are associated with hobbyists and enthusiasts in the US.

Everywhere else, it's associated with poor people.

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>>222941585
automatic was made so browns and women could "drive"
manual is the trve way

>>222942032
women have driven manual since before auto was invented.

>>222937665
its not that hard. Anyone gatekeeping it or thinking theyre better than people that didnt care to learn have a lot missing from their lives clearly.

>>222937665
I dont use a parking brake when I park
my car hasnt even had a parking brake since ive owned it
it is japanese

>>222942032
>tf tp
manual is brown coded because you are all driving decade old cars from the time when automatic wasn't as reliable as manual

>>222939343
In Yurop it's many thousand € cheaper

>>222937665
Manuals are okay but automatics are more chill to drive.
I dont understand the circlejerk about driving a manual on 4chan like the frog in this thread. Its just a fucking car stop being so hysterical about it
No, driving a manual doesnt make you a better driver

>>222942371
Nobody said that retard. It's pretending that driving a manual is a challenge in any way, shape or form that's annoying. You people out here can't do shit and always cry out when you're called out for not being able to do shit. You only admit to your inadequacies when they're so wide spread that no one cares about it anymore. The broader cost of this is having to deal with less competent people in general. Can't change a tire, can't jump start a car, can't fix anything in the house, can't send a letter, can't... Fuck all of you brain damaged freaks who act like your inadequacies aren't slowing down if not downright blocking people who got shit to do and normal working hands.

>>222942470
The fuck you mean "you" people i drive both as i said
Youre the one that is sperging out over this shit making it a big deal in your head

>>222937665
>you need to use dogshit outdated technory because... BECAUSE YOU JUST DO

>>222942371
The transmission at the end of the day is a mechanical device. But if I had to choose between making automatic or manual illegal, I would make automatic illegal. They are very much the crowd responsible for decisions such as the EU mandating cameras to make sure the driver even looks at the road. Not everyone is cut out to drive a car, such as the "well it's just a thing to get you from A to B" woman. This is a good example of why they never made flying cars; it would be a disaster given what the average woman can and cannot do

>>222942556
Nothing means anything to cattle brained rats like you. It's fine if everyone pretends to be a woman or is unemployed in their 20s living with mommy and daddy it ain't that much of a deal! Well tell you what boss... it is. Because ain't no man an island. A person who can't drive a manual is mentally inferior!!! Imagine being fine with someone who can't tie their shoes or do simple maths in his head being able to vote? Same with all these skills you deem minor that a shit ton of people just skip.

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>>222937665
I'm 30+, never driven a manual. Only got my automatic license so can't even drive one legally kek and I don't see a reason to. My Alfa wagon is automatic.

>>222942596
A car IS just a device to get you from a to b
Stop with your hysteria
Maybe you should advocate for cars to be more expensive if you only want highly educated people with lots of spare time to practice on the road maybe paired with a mandatory checkup every half year for 600€ to make sure your emotionally well adjusted enough to not road rage

>>222942627
>Schizo nonsense shifting to other topics
Maybe you shouldnt be on the road

>>222942371
>I dont understand the circlejerk about driving a manual on 4chan like the frog in this thread
I assure you that 90% of pro-manual posters either never drove an automatic or, more likely, they don't even have a driving license and just want to "fit in" and feel cool

>>222941986
>what if I don't have... le shift?
Then it's the same as automatic.

>>222938723
Mexicans have a massive drinking and driving problem. On Mexican Independence Day, they form these drunk car caravans here in Chicago to the point where cops have to break them up because it's just a bunch of blackout drunk spics behind the wheel of their pickup trucks, endangering everyone.

>>222939209
Nigger we're too poor for that now. Europeans are embracing the auto and we've been embracing the manual.

>>222938786
I actually laughed out loud. Saying their height was brutal

>>222942869
>projection: the post
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast?

>>222941986
Well obviously a straight road like a highway where you drive at a constant speed(unless you speed to a high degree) isn't gonna fun not matter if manual or automatic.
But curvy country roads with a good car are definitely more fun with manual.
Not sure what your speed limits are but here the default speed for out of town roads is 100km/h which is often a lot faster than you can realistically drive in corners, so depending on the road you can drive pretty sporty without even breaking the law.

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>>222939149

>>222941903
Yes, the engineer in fact doesn't know the exact situation on the road here and now. Retard.

>>222942759
>Maybe you should advocate for cars to be more expensive
Car manufacturers have very much been lobbying for this for years
>if you only want highly educated people
Brainlet populist take. But yes, indeed, if you want the most communist side of, say, the US, it's this indirectly implied mentality that driving is a right, not a privilege
>maybe paired with a mandatory checkup every half year for 600€
Again brainlet populist take which you then followed with some retarded emotional appeal. You demand freedom without responsibility. Pro tip: if you wanna kill someone, drive them over with a car. It likely results in the least legal consequences for you

>>222942797
I tell you what... Let's meet up and drive around and see who really shouldn't be on the road. Because your holier than thou kind who sees no wrong in anything yet can't do shit correctly and simply live off the patience others have is honestly exhausting. You're only ALLOWED to be a total fuck up. Remember that pal. Talking about you shouldn't drive. 12 years driving the same 1993 car, not a single new scratch on it (the grandmother I got it from wasn't the best, a lot like you). We are tired of you and frankly once you die we will all celebrate.

>>222938492
Yet somehow, in spite of his entire personality being based around driving a stick shift, Cody's still cooler than you.

>>222943007
there is literally 0 reason to prefer manual over automatic other than a false sense of superiority

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>>222942647
Swedes gotta keep their hands free in case an African migrant needs his balls lifted.

>>222943351
No I need my hands free so I can look at the latest US school shooting on my phone while driving to work. It's peak entertainment.

>>222943420
If I did a brake check in front of you in my hilux you'd be dead, sometimes I have these intrusive thoughts driving in sweden

>>222943482
Calm down Ahmed.

>>222943482
Muhammad with the violence fantasies. As usual.

>>222943039
Only the mighty Finnish brain could possibly detect the exact conditions of the road and manually adjust gears and set power distribution accordingly.

A car with dozens of sensors and hundreds of thousands of lines of code could never.

>>222943482
>Asian drivers

>>222943524
You've never had these intrusive thoughts? You're lying, they're known to be part of human psychology, a sort of reality-testing mechanism

>>222937665
I can do this though

>>222937665
I've never driven either but mum drives a manual it's a very bumpy ride and she always yanks the stick around angrily meanwhile dad drives an automatic and it's always a smooth drive and he never gets angry at the car for existing, so I guess when I get my license I'll just get an automatic car and chill

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>>222943039
not only do they in fact know, most modern cars have an option to specifically turn off automatic traction control because modern automobiles are so good in adverse road conditions that most people will never notice. even RAV 4's these days can handle insane terrain, and i've seen videos of off-roaders using Corolla's and Accords.

>>222943656
Something extremely annoying when driving a manual is being stuck behind an automatic driver for a long time because they somehow always oscilate between that speed where you need to shift between 2nd and 3rd gear over and over again to compensate for their super weird driving where they sometimes slow down a lot for no reason to just accelerate and go back to normal for a bit.

>>222943544
Lobotomised swede tailgating you like he's sniffing your ass, doomscrolling on his phone at the wheel? I mean sue me if I get the fleeting thought on a long drive "what if I... were to brake suddenly for some reason"

>>222937665
>1>2>3>1>2>3>1>2>3>1>2>3
manual at city is shit, automatic is much more comfy

I think its really funny when americans think they are better than other americans because they can drive stick since its standard in europe
but whenever i see euros join in bragging about it unironically i think it's really sad

>>222943929
I think this place has a huge issue. None of you can read. You don't understand what's being said. When someone types x, you think y. When someone tells you people who can't drive stick are retarded, you think it means they're bragging about driving stick. Talking to people here, you gotta be ready to just expect the guy to have some kind of third person pop up in his brain with whom he has another conversation with while talking to you, but he keeps mixing up the responses and sends them to you instead of him.

>>222943929
Now when I see a german flag I just think about the zero replies to >>222943051

>>222943982
>>222944003
this thread is about manuals vs automatic cars and idiots that think driving manual cars makes them somehow better
not about some bullshit about the EU or women or whatever the fuck you are talking about

>>222944125
So you engaged in the argument and now it's suddenly all flying over your little head

>>222944125
Can't tell if you were born like this or if you merely developped dementia along the way.

>>222937665
Nah, I can drive manual. A lot of Zoomers and Millennials shill automatic though.

>>222943881
If I'm tailgating you then you're a horrible driver because I already go 5-10 below the speed limit since I mostly drive country roads full of moose and deer.

>>222944290
Then it cannot be you

>>222944290
tailgaiting is a sign of low moral driving no matter how slow your victim drives
if someone drives slowly then just overtake them, don't tailgate like a fucking 80 IQ retard

>>222937665
I drive whatever rusty old shitbox I can find for under €500. Don't give a shit what brand, engine, fwd, rwd, auto, manual.. If it can survive the 15 minute drive from my house to the grocery store and back? Good car. When it no longer does? I buy another shitbox and scrap the old one.

>>222944389
I don't tailgate. That's the schizo Finn having delusions again. I just said that for me to even have the chance of tailgating someone they need to be driving a lot slower than me and I already drive slow.

>>222937665
most south korean drivers do not use manual transmission car

>>222937665
a car is meant to get me from A to B. i dont care about this other wank and in 200+ years people will sigh in relief at not having to deal with this like many do now.

>>222944389
The way I see driving in sweden is that mostly it's very relaxed and focused on safety. Every now and again you get the retard bragging about having these low morals and if you were to confront them about it they probably call you a schizo. They live in a matriarchy, after all

>>222943875
Maybe just upgrade to an automatic so you can stop seething
>but muh 1993 car

>>222945315
I bring home 5k a month yet my car cost me 2600 euros and I have to fill up on gas only once a month. Surely getting a yaris or an audi or a tesla for a couple tens of thousand is the smart move. Stupid worthless son of a bitch.

>>222945396
>yet my car cost me 2600 euros and I have to fill up on gas only once a month
Imagine exactly this but without an annoying manual transmission that has zero benefits

>>222945423
a 2600€ automatic means its value might as well be anywhere between -2600€ and 2600€ because the rube goldberg gearbox lack the reliability

>>222945423
The benefits are a more reliable gearbox when you know how to shift gear without damaging or wearing it out. And it costing a looot less to replace when you eventually have to change it.

>>222945709
you don't eventually have to change an automatic gearbox. And there's no clutch to wear in it either.
Not that there aren't shit automatic transmissions that do fail like in Fords but it's not the rule.

>>222937665
Falsenuke. I am a zoomer and a retard yet even I can do that

My manual gearbox acts as a de facto antitheft device

>>222937665
Automatics have been a thing for ages and the cost difference is negligible or non-existent.

>>222937665
unironically not useful anymore, except if you regularly travel to a third world country that uses manual transmission

t. avid thailand visitor

>>222939578
it's necessary to learn it because you are then allowed to drive both in Sweden.

if you took an automated transmission license than you're fucked if the police stops you driving a manual

>>222949710
My brother only has the auto license. Never driven a manual car and never will so it's not necessary to be honest. Depends on the driver.

>>222949739
yeah, my wife will only get the auto one because I cba teaching her the transmission change shit again.

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>>222949777
Getting more and more common in general. 4 out of 10 drivers only get the auto one today.

>>222937665
>zoom zoom zoomies zooming at it again!
Why don't you fall down the stairs gramps, you act like boomers except you don't have anything to boast about, picking on the little things

>>222939937
In the Usa probably one thing, ngunbu won't steal it >>222942989

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Once you've gone through this a few times, you'll probably never want to drive a manual car again.

Yes we can. Most of us who have a licence anyways. What a braindead thing to feel proud about
>t. zoomer AND a retard

In the year 2026, why would I not just buy an automatic and not have to worry about it? I don't know how to steer a horse and buggy either.

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>automatic
>manual
lol
WASD is the way

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>>222951455
Q and Z for shift btw