Is beef/meat expensive in your country?NorwayYes beef is very expensive. 497 NOK = 44.89 €
i can only afford first price beef at meny
>>223090396>497 NOK>$72.19 CADYes, but not that expensive.
>>223090396Like 8-15 usd depending on what you want.
>>223090444We suffer in Norway
>>223090625Pork is better anyway.
>>223090396That's slightly less than 1.5 hours of work at median salary. Not bad at all when buying from a small "artisanal" producer like that.
Beef is expensive but chicken is pretty cheap. Pork and fish are all right.
>>223090798>"artisanal"Literally the local butcher on the corner, my dude.>That's slightly less than 1.5 hours of work at median salary. I don't know how you calculated thatThe median salary in Norway is 55 800 kr (source: https://www.ssb.no/arbeid-og-lonn/lonn-og-arbeidskraftkostnader/artikler/hva-er-vanlig-lonn-i-norge)Mind you that this is before taxes, after taxes (assuming standard tax rates)that would be between 37 000 and 37 500 (34% inntektsskatt and trygdeavgift, trinnskatt sats 1 & 2)Average working hours per month is 162.5, which gives an hourly net rate at 230.77 kr. So you'd need to work for at least 2 hours and 9 minutes to be able to afford that.However, to illustrate how ridiculous that is: That's ~1.32% of your disposable monthly income for a SINGLE STEAK. Keep in mind that 50% of people make less than the median...Other countries spend way less portion of their salary on food than Norway does.
>>223090396Don't you guys have really nice frozen pizzas? Norway eats more pizzas per capita than anywhere in the world.
>>223091194What is wrong with you? You can have salmon for half of that price and would bother eating beef.
Stop eating meat
>>223091271>Norway eats more pizzas per capita than anywhere in the world.This is true>Don't you guys have really nice frozen pizzas? The selection has improved slightly in recent years, but it's pretty depressing and small compared to other European countries.
>>223091289>salmonNo thanks, don't want my body full of industrial metals and growth hormones. Have you seen what awful abominations they breed in those salmon farms?Look up the price on "wild salmon" and then come back, anon.
>>223091370>thinks that beef is any differentDude. DUDE, seriously, if you truly want something 'real' you will have to grow your own food.
>>223091370wild salmon = villaksPrice is usually 700 to 1000 kr per kilogramme if you buy it in filéts, it's cheaper if you buy it as a whole fish instead (around half the price)
>>223090396Yes, it costs 10$ for four of my burger patties
>>223091370Smart man. I will never eat farmed fish.
>>223091449Why do you think I bought the beef at the local butcher anon? As the other anon pointed out, I could have gotten cheap beef imported from Germany/Romania for half the price.
>>223091194That steak is almost twice as expensive per kg as what you'd find in a regular store. It is an artisanal product because you are buying it from a smaller, specialized shop.Also, absolutely nobody with a median salary would be paying percentage taxes lmao, you'd likely have ~40-43k net with a salary like that. You're also assuming the wrong number of working hours as you are not accounting for vacation time and holidays. This equals about 1700 hours annually, which with a median salary equals ~393 NOK per hour (before tax).
>>223091492Almost none of the meat sold in our stores is imported, and if it is it's usually more expensive thanks to tariffs.
go to local butcher>10lbs ground chuck >10lbs chicken tenderloins>5lbs chicken wings>3 gallons milkunder $100
>>223091620Yes, you have a grossly underpaid class of people, congratulations to you.
>>223091518>Also, absolutely nobody with a median salary would be paying percentage taxes lmao, you'd likely have ~40-43k net with a salary like that.No you don't you massive retard. https://www.skatteetaten.no/person/skatt/skattekalkulator/https://gratiskalkulator.no/skatt/skatt-kalkulatorhttps://www.smartepenger.no/105-kalkulator/3786-skatteberegning-2024>You're also assuming the wrong number of working hours as you are not accounting for vacation time and holidays.I'm not, I'm using arbeidstilsynets own calculation, https://www.arbeidstilsynet.no/arbeidstid-og-organisering/arbeidstid/Why are you so disingenious?
>>223091548>Almost none of the meat sold in our stores is imported,That's literally untrue, literally half of the meat sold in Norwegian stores is imported from Germanyhttps://www.nationen.no/norge-importerer-tonnevis-med-kjott-fra-tyskland-hele-industrien-er-forferdelig/f/5-148-345349>and if it is it's usually more expensive thanks to tariffs.No it isn't, because that would violate EU/EFTA (EØS in Norwegian) regulations.You are extremely uneducated
>>223091370Stick to cod.
>>223091637>asks if beef is inexpensive where I live>tell him yes>gets mad
>>223091704Norwegians on this board are the most autistic retards
>>223091548NTA but half of the ground meat in all stores you go to is imported. Not only that but Norwegian ground meat is around 25-30kr more expensive.
>>223091643Du motbeviser jo deg selv din mongo. Her har du ordinær skatt på medianlønn, som gir en gjennomsnittlig skattesats på rett over 28%, altså nesten 42k i måneden utbetalt. Merk at dette også er uten de mange, mange fradragene de fleste ordinære lønnsmottakere vil være berettiget til.Du bør dessuten lære deg hva et årsverk er. Med ordinær tariff (noe de aller, aller fleste av oss har) jobber man rundt 1700 timer i året, altså mye mindre enn det som står nedfelt i AML, som er et maksimum.
>>223091688Herregud, kan du ikke lese? 50% av IMPORTERT kjøtt kommer i fra Tyskland din jævla mongo.>No it isn't, because that would violate EU/EFTA (EØS in Norwegian) regulations.Niks. Vi har tollkvoter som en del av EØS, men kjøtt (og andre varer som produseres i Norge) utenfor kvote har importavgift et sted mellom 2-500%. Forøvrig Produserer vi om nesten 360000 tonn kjøtt selv, og importerer i underkant av 40000 tonn.
>>223091851>Merk at dette også er uten de mange, mange fradragene de fleste ordinære lønnsmottakere vil være berettiget til.Ikke alle kan bo i FinnmarkDet er tilbakestående å bruke medianlønn som utgangspunkt, 50% av befolkningen tjener under dette.
>>223092089>tror det eneste fradraget man kan få er FinnmarksfradragNAUT detektert ja.>forveksler median og gjennomsnitt rett deretter.Sier sitt ja.
>>223092178Vet du hva median er?
En median er den midterste verdien i et tallmateriale når tallene er sortert i stigende rekkefølge. Den deler et datasett i to like store deler, slik at 50 % av observasjonene er lavere og 50 % er høyere enn medianen.
Eg må drite
>>223092178>hva er en hyperbole>vet ikke at definisjonen på median er at 50% av målingene ligger under og 50% av målingene ligger over
>>223092233>>223092216Ja, men ettersom en større andel av lønnsmottakere ligger innenfor intervallet av medianlønn er det reelt sett færre enn 50% som tjener under det intervallet.
>>223090396Yes it's like $8/lb for anything here
Beef is a luxury and not a right,they can charge whatever the fuck they want for it you idiot
>>223092500Du har ikke skrevet noe "intervall", årslønn på 669600 er ikke et intervall. "intervallet av medianlønn" gir ingen mening. Median er ikke et intervall. Det er ikke "reelt sett færre enn 50% tjener under dette", definisjonen av median er midtpunktet der 50% av målingene ligger under og 50% av målingene ligger over. Punktum.
>>223092554I lønnstatistikk opererer man typisk med et spenn tilsvarende+-5% når man snakker om median eller gjennomsnitt. Men ja, greit, kunne vært mer presis her. Men likevel, poenget er at OP har kjøpt et luksusprodukt fra en mindre forhandler, som likevel fortsatt ikke er spesielt dyrt gitt lønnsnivået her til lands.
>>223090396Pork mince goes as low as 4€/kg ($2.07/lbs) here
>>223091851riking storkar kanj æ få litt pæng?
>>223092512No they can't we in this thread will not be content with mere observations. We are forming the league globale de beefeater tribe (LGBT) and going Teamsters on beef scalpers everywhere
>>223091637My rent and utilities are covered by my 24 hour a week job at Walmart
>>223092758This but unironically
>>223092636Nei, det er ikke sånn median fungerer. Median er midtverdien der 50% av verdiene er lavere og 50% av verdiene er høyere. Det er bokstavelig talt definisjonen av median. Se lenken postet i >>223091194 hvis du er usikker på hvor medianlønnsutregningen kom fra.Og poenget ditt har du jo undergravd selv. Du anser altså kortreist biff kjøpt rett fra slakteren i stedet for importert goyslopp fra andre siden av Europa som "luksusprodult".Du synes det er forsvarlig at en enkelt biff skal utgjøre 1 til 1,3% prosent av utbetalt månedslønn når man, bokstavelig talt, har en inntekt som er høyere enn det halvparten av norske lønnsmottakere har (per definisjon).
>>223090396so you have that or about one and a half frozen pizzas, okay then
>>223090396I buy the cheapest entrecote I can find which is around 350 NOK/kg. But beef mince and burgers is much cheaper to eat regularly. >>223091449First off, cattle don't get farmed in the exact same way salmon do. Secondly, look up what a ruminant animal is. >>223092512Storfekjøtt er en rett for alle vaskeekte Nordmenn. Ferdig snakka.
all the norwegian flags itt are 2 people
>>223093093Do I have to explain how that mad cow disease thing started? Every factory livestock is fucking metal.
>>223093182If you can't eat beef you unironically have weak genes
>>223093135not me
>>223093219Who can't eat beef? I'm just stating facts, anon. The 'golden standard' of diets is the mediterranean diet. And guess what? It does include salmon instead of beef.
>>223093135nope
Beef patties at the butcher are 3.50 for two patties of about 125 grams if you buy on Tuesdays. That's 14 euros for a a kilo
Absolute prices mean jackshit.Now post the median wage and even more telling the NEETbux money per month.
>>223093237>>223093298you are te same
>>223093999>NEETbux money per month$2300 each month for me after taxes, but it varies. i can't eat beef like this
>>223094020wrong
>>223094020what did you think you were proving here?
>>223093999Median salary after taxes is somewhere around 40k-42k NOK per month (3600-3800 €) as the other two autists argued about. Neetbux is a lower, that's around 3000 € before taxes.
>>223094042>>223094150Definetly better than in Germany.Beef , Entrecote is like 35€ per kg even in discounter.Median wage and NEETbux is way lower.
>>223090396Beef is expensive but times you can find good deals, like just week I bought same cut as you from Lidl at 20 €/kg
>>223090396Fake news. Beef from our local race NRF is in general not sorted for quality like in the US. The package anon shows is like the 0.1% or less that is actually sorted. You can just go to a supermarket yourself and pick the nicest piece yourself and pay under half of that.
>>223090396Normal price meat is ridiculous, but it's usually 50-75% off at the end of the day, which is when I buy it.
I buy a whole animal and butcher it, either myself or pay a professional to cut it up, i would never buy unknown triple frozen bullshit they serve as meat at stores, i believe it causes cancer but i cant prove it.I used to farm pigs so i know a thing or two about meat, its best to do as i do and know people who you buy animals from.
>>223094326The beef in OP is 999 NOK (90,82€) per kilo. I doubt that median wage in Norway is over double that of Germany.
>>223095256based
>>223090396i mostly eat chicken which is pretty cheap. occasionally i'll buy 500g minced beef for burgers which i think is about 6€
>>223095284>90,82€) per kiloHoly fucking shit
>>223095886Well yeah, there's a reason why we are outraged
>>223090396i used to buy frozen urugayan beef for 179.99/kg at rema1000 when i was there skill issue
>>223096026People here would prefer not to eat literal garbage
>>223096026>just eat the imported goyslop
What these disingenuous norgays aren't telling you is that the reason norwegian-made beef is so expensive is because of the carbon tax credits. You literally voted for this and then you complain on this taiwanese tapestry forum.
>>223096120lmfao sure its not like you make a tradition to eat foreign goyslop every friday. but sure your cattle raised on fish residue in stavnger is so much better kek
>>223096202They aren't pumped full of drugs and hormones doe.
>>223090396literally not my problem
>>223096120>People here would prefer not to eat literal garbagenigga, you're the frozen pizza capital of the world
>>223096179What's your favorite taiwanese tapestry
>>223096288Sad that your frozen pizzas are so crap that you view them as garbage
>>223096327Ours are too stop projecting. Frozen pizzas are like 90% palm oil and starch
>>223096202>tacos made with norwegian beef, norwegian vegetables, norwegian cheese, and norwegian tortillas is foreign goyslop just because we call it taco
>>223096321This one, maybe.
>>223096327Grandiosa, the most popular pizza here is hilariously bad. The "meat" on top is called "pizza topping" and is only 40% meat, the rest being soy, water and shit.Dds mongo.
>>223096371Not to mention norwegian sour cream
>>223096268i was talking about shit quality fishmeal which is a litteral biohazard
>>223096371>Norwegian vegetableswho's gonna tell him?
>>223096383Doesn't belong on tacos
>>223096327it's ultra-high processed food, of course it's garbagebut your opinion that it isn't does explain a lot
>>223096371>norwegian vegetables,Anon da....
>>223096385It's illegal here to feed beef fishmeal.
>>223096371>people that actually do this in norgay: 1
>>223096396It's blasphemy to not have sour cream on your friday taco, maybe even majonaise. Get out!
>>223096419>A cold cream that masks all the other tastes, overpowers them all,and makes it all just blend togetherMadness
>>223096419It's about 50/50 if people here do sour cream or mayo. Don't pretend sour cream is the universal choice.
>>223096409your farmers and fishslop producer are lobbying for it to be legal again doe. and its legal for everything that isnt cows
>>223096419>>223096471I have literally never heard of mayo on tacos, sour cream yeah it's a normal split on if people like it or not on tacos, but fucking mayo? Are you one of those who put mayo on pizza as well? Or brown cheese on your tacos and pizza?
>>223096487It was worse in the 90s, the pork could literally smell and taste like fish back then.
>>223096518I do sour cream but mayo is classic on norwegian taco, maybe not in your geographic area though.
>>223096518>I have literally never heard of mayo on tacosChilimajones er kjempevanlig, ikke bare i Norge
>>223096554I guess you are either northern then where everyone is a weirdo, or from the Oslo area where everyone is gay and not real Norwegians
>>223096518>mayo on pizza as well?No, bernaise sauce on pizzaMayonaise on french fries
>>223096622Well, in this we agree. Bernaise and french fries pizza is fucking goated
You guys don't use cloudberry jam on your fish tacos? Wtf is wrong with you?
Typical Norwegian taco is:-minced meat with taco spice mix-mayo-cold grated cheese (gouda copy)-lettuce-cucumber-tomato (many skip this)-corn-pineapple-sometimes mango-storebought "guacamole" that is like 5% avocado-mild taco sauce (very mild)Onion and chilli and hot sauce is too spicy for most norwegians.
>>223090396it’s like 50-60$ to 1kg of entrecôte steak
>>223096704DO NOT listen to this, he is baiting
>>223090396yes to the point that its ridiculous, I often ask myself if people even buy this stuff or is it going straight to trash after rotting in the meat section for a week extra premium no fat, no silver skin pork tenderloin in small local middle man shop is 38zł/kg (9€) while normal stuff can go for as low as 18zł (4€)cheapest ground mystery beef at cheap supermarket is 49zł (11.5€) and anything better goes for 60-85zł (14-19.5€)
>>223096683That goes on waffles
>>223096740You can't even point out whats wrong, you're just too embarrassed to admit it's true.
>>223096524do they pump meat full of brine nowadays like in france or has it not reached norway yet
>>223096853Frozen chicken gets pumped with brine and certain pork products. Beef is put into vacuum asap so to not lose water weight so unless you let it drymature for some days in your refrigerator yourself it will feel watery.
>>223096853No, they do here as well. At least water, but I think brine as well.
>>223096833>>223096833mayo is ridiculous, but i'll allow it. pineapple is retarded, it's just wet and sloppy ion a taco, and i am not someone who dislikes it on pizza and i find it good on pizza, but at least there the wetness gets ooked away mostly. mango doesn't even have to be explained, you're not eating a fruiot salad. guacamole is a psyop that costs way too much withouth adding anything back, slop for instagramwhores. and mild taco sauce is stupid, especially your statement about hot chilli sauce beign too spicy for us which is a straight up lie, and you KNOW onions being too spicy is just revealing yourself to be trolling because we use that in a lot of our dishes and it's a staple of our cuisine.
>>223096970Pinapple and mango is delicious on taco, I usually swap out the tomato based taco salsa with pinapple and mango salsahttps://www.matprat.no/oppskrifter/kos/mangosalsa/.
>>223097015>Støre has finally sent agents after me to try and break my psyche
>>223096904>>223096903thats sad. here gullible people shop in halal butcheries cause it's "so much cheaper" but their meat loses half its weight when cooking. i miss when my grandad used to give my family a whole detailed sheep for free every 6 months
>>223096970Also, home made guacamole is delicious wtf are you talking about.1 avocado1 garlic clove1/4 to 1/3 of yellow onionHalf a lime, squeezed1 ts of mayonaiseSalt and pepper, maybe a bit of chili and cuminSome fresh coriander/cilantro 1 ts of chilioil
>>223096970I agree that mayo, pineapple and mango is ridiculous but even the hot taco sauces you get in the stores are super mild.We use cooked onion in many traditional recipes like kjøttkaker but many skip it because they don't like it. Raw onion is on the other hand is not widely consumed.
>>223097054Yeah people her also unfortunately go for the cheapest option most of the time as well, no matter how much taste they lose out on. Hell, most stores and places don't even have a butcher section/shop at all anymore, as you probably know since it has been like this for many years now, so you have no real choice in what cuts you get
>>223097133Must be a city folk kind of thing to avoid onions like that
>>223090396I don't care much about beef, I always buy cheap pork at Coop or Willys. Pretty much always "on sale" or reduced for members. 1kg is usually 59 kr / €5.
>>223097160It's not. Just 20-30 years ago raw onion was very rare. It's still not very common. There's a reason norwegians have everything for taco separated, because mixing onion, tomato, chilli and cilantro into a pico de gallo would be unacceptable for the average norwegian.
>>223097410>Just 20-30 years ago raw onion was very rarelol no it wasn'tyou're making weird shit uponions, both raw and cooked, have been a staple of norwegian cuisine since the beginingi mean, raw onions on karbonadesmørbrød is basically a given, raw onions have been a hot dog topping since forever, etc. stop making shit up
>>223097107Why would you add mayonnaise? Avocado is already basically pure fat and plenty creamy.
>>223097753I just like it for smoothing out the texture, it becomes more creamy and I also find that it prevents it from going brown as quick but not sure if that's real or just imagined.
>>223097410I don't know much about Norway but I've bought plenty of pickled herring from Aldi and it has onion in it so I would assume that's a normal thing there.
>>223097621>raw onions on karbonadesmørbrød is basically a given*caramelised onions, retard>raw onions have been a hot dog topping since forever, etc.That max 1/10 or less choose. Most go for crispy onions or shrimp-mayo-salad if they go for anything else than ketchup or sugary watery mustard (proper mustard is too spicy).
>>223097780Hmmmm...What variety of avocado is typical in Norway anyway?
>>223097840Yes pickles herring is one of few dishes were raw onion is common, but it doesn't change the fact that most norwegians don't like raw onion (most norwegians don't like oickled herring either).
>>223097862>shrimp-mayo-saladThe combo is usually this + raw onions.Also, sursild a traditional staple has raw onions in it.
>>223097935What is wrong with Norwegians? Both pickled herring and onion are delicious.
>>223097923Mostly from Peru and Chile, but depending on the season we might get some from Spain, Kenya and Israel.
>>223097960>The combo is usually this + raw onions.Crispy fried onions are way more popular than raw onions.
>>223097982He's larping, trying to push some lame "norgay people don't spice dey food" meme. Raw, chopped onions is used in a bunch of dishes. Sursild is a great example.
>>223098015Not together with rekesalad, that sounds disgusting.
>>223098015nta but i always do both raw onions and sprøstekt
>>223097862Jeg mente roastbiff, men skrev karbonade av en eller annen grunn. Remulade og rå løk er vanlig til roastbiffsmørbrød.
>>223098028>Raw, chopped onions is used in a bunch of dishName 5 traditional norwegian dishes with raw chopped onion.>>223098028>Sursild is a great example.Very few people eat sild/herring nowadays.>>223098028>trying to push some lame "norgay people don't spice dey food" meme.No, I'm just saying that norwegians dont like thing particularly spicy: our mustard is super mild, taco sauce is super mild and raw onion isn't some universally eaten thing even though some people eat it.
>>223098110If you order classic roast beef sandwiches from somewhere ("snitter") you get crispy fried onions, not raw. I've literally never seen a catering place use raw onions for their roast beef sandwiches.
>>223098115>Name 5 traditional norwegian dishes with raw chopped onion.SursildRøkelaksSpekemat med rømme, flatbrød og grøt, very common to have chopped onions on the sideAny dish with potatos and onion gratin (technically the onion is cooked in the oven, but it's not fried in a pan or boiled like the potatoes are)>Very few people eat sild/herring nowadays.Your argument was "back in the days" anyway and regarding traditional norwegian dishes.
>>223098163>If you order classic roast beef sandwiches from somewhere ("snitter") you get crispy fried onions,No, it's served with both, stop trolling>I've literally never seen a catering place use raw onions for their roast beef sandwiches.Okay, now I know you're just trollinghttps://www.matprat.no/oppskrifter/gjester/roastbiffsmorbrod/https://www.matprat.no/oppskrifter/gjester/snitter-med-roastbiff/https://meny.no/oppskrifter/sandwich/roastbiffsmorbrod-med-kapers-og-rodlokLiterally three recepies for that all use raw onion rings
>>223098235>SursildYes>RøkelaksNo>>223098235>Spekemat med rømme, flatbrød og grøt, very common to have chopped onions on the sideLmao no>Any dish with potatos and onion gratin (technically the onion is cooked in the oven, but it's not fried in a pan or boiled like the potatoes are)Not rawSo you've mentioned ONE dish so far.
>>223098298>Literally three recepies for that all use raw onion ringsNot catering places. Could have become a recent thing to have a slice of onion on.
>>223098307>>Røkelaks>Nonigga, stop lyinghttps://www.matprat.no/oppskrifter/tradisjon/lefseruller-med-rokelaks/
Also rødbetsalat has fresh onions in it. Stop pretending.
>>223098335
>>223098354That's lefserull and they usually don't have raw onion in them unless you're serving them to people you know like it. There's just too many norwegians that don't like raw onions, so it's not common to make things with raw onions for say a koldtbord. You might have it separate on the side though for the few people that like it.
>>223097982He's talking shit out of it his ass, nothing he says is true
>>223098454Nigga, you're full of shit anyway and I'm not going to entertain you anymore.Rødløk is super common garnityr to anything with røkelaks, pic very much related. You are utterly retarded and trying to push the "wipypo don't spice dey food" meme, it's silly and stupid. You're probably a Pakistani immigrant.
Usually if a mixed salad is served in Norway, it never has onion because so many norwegians dislike it. The typical norwegian mixed salad is napa cabbage, tomato, cucumber, corn with thoussand island dressing.
>>223098522Okay brah
>>223098518>Rødløk is super common garnityr to anything with røkelaksIt's true raw onion got more popular the last 20 years or so, but it doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of norwegians don't eat it. If you serve taco to 10 norwegians where everything is separated, maybe on average 1 or 2 will put some raw onion on.
>>223098592>the typical thing is X>here is a pic of Y thoughProves nothing.
>>223098607It's not only 20 years, you can stop pretending. It has always been that way. I'm turning 40 later this year btw, onions have been a staple in my cuisine all my life and you are just doing some weird ass taqqiya online.
>norgays dont spice dey food taqqiya
>>223098662>onions have been a staple in my cuisine all my life>therefore its true for all norwegiansAre you autistic?
>"norwegians don't use onions"
>>223098714I'm just pointing out I know more about Norwegian cuisine than you do Ahmed.
>>223098683>>223098718Now you're just acting retarded. I never said it was non-existent just that the majority don't eat raw onion.
>>223098741>the majority don't eat raw onion.Literally 99% of salads on any restaurant menu have fresh onions in them, what the actual fuck are you talking about?
>>223098774This >>223098522 is the typical salad you get at a mid-to-low norwegian eatery. Sure you get proper salad at higher end or foreign restaurants.
>>223098846>This >>223098522 is the typical salad you get at a mid-to-low norwegian eatery.No, you retard. It almost always has rødløk too what the actual fuck are you talking about?
I actually searched "blandet salat oppskrift" and the first 10 hits all had chopped onions in them. Anon is clearly severely mentally challenged.
To anyone still lurking, I will refer back to this as a warning for future threads on /int/ >>223091728
>>223098975I did the same search and only a few had chopped onions in them.
>>223099117If your claim that "the majority don't like it", I would expect the number of hits to be near zero.
>>223099161>>223098607>If you serve taco to 10 norwegians where everything is separated, maybe on average 1 or 2 will put some raw onion on.
>>223099183The fact that fresh onion is a stable garnityr for taco and literally the most common hot dog garnityr after fried onions would seem to disprove that only "10-20%" of Norwegians like it. You can stop your retarded taqiyya now.
>>223099265*staple
>>223099265This is the real numbers of what people like on their hot dogs:>Ketchup 76 %>Sennep 60 %>Lompe 57 %>Brød 54 %>Stekt løk 41 %>Rå løk 29 %>Potetsalat 22 %>Rekesalat 16 %>Annet tilbehør 8 %>Vaffel 2 %29% liking raw onion on hot dogs is a minority.
>>223099358I didn't count ketchup and mustard, either lompe or bread is not a garnityr, that's an essential ingredient, and you literally proved my point for me, rå løk is LITERALLY the second most popular garnityr after stekt løk, which is literally what I said.
>>223099396>>223099358And it also disproves that "only 1 or 2 out of 10 likes it.
>>22309939629% liking raw onion on hot dogs makes them a minority.
>>223099436See >>223099417 and >>223099396You literally proved my post correct, thank you anon. Now post taco statistics.
>>223099482Moving the goalpost. I said the majority don't like it and that MAYBE just 10-20% like it. Ok so 29% like it, thats still a minority.
>>223099596>Moving the goalpost.No, that's what you are doing. Your claim was that only 1 or 2 out of 10 likes fresh onions, you just posted statistics proving that almost 1/3 use it on hot dogs, so now you're moving the goalpost to "they're a minority", which means that the rest of the hot dog garnityrs would only be enjoyed by a minority as well so by your own logic gas stations should just remove them.
>>223099637>Your claim was that only 1 or 2 out of 10 likes fresh onionsMy claim was that the majority don't like it and that MAYBE only 1 or 2/10 likes it. My hard claim that the majority don't like it stands.
>>223099711No it doesn't stand, because you were originally talking about norwegian fredagstaco and making all sorts of claims that fresh onions wasn't used in norwegian cuisine "until 20-30 years ago" which is not only demonstratively false but also insanely retarded. You are just desperately trying to move the goal post now.
>Nøøøø I live in a high trust society with extremely high riches and a well paid job but now i have to pay slightly more for a premium tier steak this is outrageous
>>223099755>making all sorts of claims that fresh onions wasn't used in norwegian cuisine "until 20-30 years ago"No I didn'tThat only 29% likes raw onion on hot dogs proves that the majority don't
>>223099807>No I didn'tCool story, bro>>223097410>It's not. Just 20-30 years ago raw onion was very rare. It's still not very common.>>223098607>It's true raw onion got more popular the last 20 years or so
>>22309980390 euros per kg is not "slightly more"
>>223099842I never claimed it wasn't used at all. Only 29% likes it on hot dogs.
>>223099901Just take the L retard.
>>223091620>10lbs ground chuck>0lbs sky sneed>a bunch of fried chicken caus ooh lawdy does dat taste goodDo americans really
The real question is what kind of frying pan you use to cook your steak in, in your country.
>>223100012Cast iron, of course
>>223100012This. Among norwegian anons, frying pans made of bhardsj (poop) seems to be most popular.
>>223100027Just don't clean it with dishwashing soap
>>223100094If you have a good coating built up on it you can use dish soap no problem, the thing about not washing it with dish soap is an old thing from back when dish soaps were much harsher. If your seasoning is good you don't have to worry
This is how a properly seasoned cast iron pan looks like. If you wash away the layer of burnt food, the lan will rust.
>>223100121>coating
>>223100160Yes coating? The seasoning is a coating that builds up in the pan. Are you the anon who always corrects other in the norgay threads as well like this for no logical reason?
>>223100160Yeah it's a sort of plastic
>>223100196Det heter patina ikke coating din mongo
>>223100215Nei, patina er noe helt annet. Det er sånn treverk og skinn får når det blir gammelt.
>>223100199No iwas just talking about a natural coating from oils, aka seasoning the pan. Not fake non stick coatings>>223100215Driter i hva det "heter", det er uansett en "coating" selv om det har et annet navn også, så selv om terminologien kanskje ikke er riktig innenfor industrien så er det heller ikke idiotisk å si. Det er et belegg som legger seg i panna
>>223100250>Driter i hva det "heter", det er uansett en "coating" selv om det har et annet navn også, så selv om terminologien kanskje ikke er riktig innenfor industrien så er det heller ikke idiotisk å si. Det er et belegg som legger seg i pannaYou're literally describing a patinaCoating is the PFAS teflon shit they put on non-stick pans.
>>223100250>No iwas just talking about a natural coating from oils, aka seasoning the panThat's a patina not a coating.
>>223100277>>223100290A natural oil build up is still a coating you dingus, just because there exists other forms of coatings does not mean i'm wrong
>>223100277>>223100290Det heter "seasoning" på engelsk da, patina er noe annet. Og jo det er en slags "coating".
>>223100306>>223100321You are utterly retarded.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasoning_(cookware)
>>223100334Ja? du linket jo bare en nettside som beviser att vi har rett?
When norgays reply in norwegian it's because they are wrong but still arguing but too embarrassed to let other people know.
>>223100352>att>vi
>>223100367I just got confused with which norgay thread i was in because i'm probably arguing with you there as well over your idiocy. You already gave me the proof that i am correct on a silver platter so why would i be embarrassed?
>I was just pretending to be retarded so that actually proves I was right all along!
>>223100400You're arguing with the guy who will argue forever against anything just to troll and even edit html on websites and screenshot as "proof" just to troll.
>>223100458It's literally impossible to argue forever anon.
Are any foreigners reading through the spillover-autism from /norgetråden/?Yes we really are this bad.
>>223100290Patina is oxidized metal, the stuff on cast iron pans is polymerized fat.
>>223100522>the stuff on cast iron pans is polymerized fat.aka a sort of plastic >>223100199
i just came to this threadi use a steel frying panand i eat fish
>>223090396That'd be around 20€ here.
>>223100522Based Finn correcting retard-anon.
>>223100532What the fuck are you talking about? You think oils turn into plastic when cooked/burnt into the pan? There is literally no plastic at all in the pan when you buy it, and plastic doesn't get introduced to the pan by seasoning it and cooking with it
>>223100569What do you think polymers are?
Er så utrolig lei av å emulere gamle spill. Vil kjenne på hud og sånt, men det krever jo gode sosiale ferdigheter
>>223100576All plastics are polymers, but not all polymers are plastics
>>223100569He's trolling
>>223100599Not very "knegg"
>>223100579vil IKKE kjenne på mannehud... Men vil heller ikke kjenne på damehud før tiden er inne. Jeg er er ikke engang stugg hvorfor må jeg ha en så sterk fobí for dette
>>223100569Polymerized fat is what the seasoning is. It's not literally plastic but it shares some properties like being hard, durable and water resistant.
>>223100589>>223100599I'm not trolling you fucking retards.From the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasoning_(cookware)>To form a strong seasoning, the raw iron item is thoroughly cleaned, coated in a very thin layer of unsaturated fat or oil, and then heated until the bioplastic layer forms, and left to completely cool.Hence "a sort of plastic".
>>223090396I've only eaten chicken and pork for years now basically, sometimes I buy beef mince meat when it's on sale
>>223100614>Men vil heller ikke kjenne på damehud før tiden er inneHva mener du med "før tiden er inne"? Kan du ikke bare kjøpe ledsager?
>>223100636>Thinks plastic forms out of thin air on a regular fucking stove
>>223100632>>223100636We call this guy krangleanon (literally: argue-anon), because he will fucking argue about anything.
Not anymore because they opened a place owned by narcos near where I live who sell really cheap cuts to launder money.
>>223100662No this >>223100661 is krangleanon.
>>223100662hikst og knegg ;)
>>223100667Why would they go with such an obvious name if they are doing sketchy things there? Is it just normalised there?
>>223100676True>>223100667Based narcos doing their bit to improve the local community
jadda neida sir du det
>>223100685>>223100667Shit i'm an idiot, i thought the place was literally called "Narcos"
>>223100685Politicians and police chiefs cant do shit because they just get killed if they try
>>223100702>Shit i'm an idiotNot surprising, you're norwegian after all.
>>223100695legendarisk joik:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjUa5XUCf0k
>>223100727Snakker du om? Skiter opp hele tråden med søppelet ditt, bringer skam over flagget
>>223100727This. All norwegians suffer for a condition called small-brainness. Literally dumbest people in whole Northern Europe.
>>223100667the meat is probably stolen as well
>>223100747
>>223100702
My family bought a house and got wealthy because of norwegians insane prices sending them to shop from us
>>223100773knegg ;)
>Norwegians are so small brained that they make fun of themselves and their own country as an own against each other
>>223100806hikst og knegg ;)
>>223100806forventer du at skal lage politiske vittser på bekostning av andre nasjoner. for et slit
parri sjippagørraTytsje korvisørraHadde joika krosjebiOg hjemmebrenta hadde vi kjøpti plastikkdonka
As a nooweigan (muslim), I can confir,m that we didn't eat onion or meat until last 15 years of berikelse. It's called taco, which arrive from muslim through allah
>>223100969kek
Brev en bra japansk tegneserie jeg burde se.
>>223101160Mummitrollet
>>223101160det var en søt gutt!jeg anbefaler boku no pico til deg
>>223101160lommemonster
>>223090396beef yes, pork and chicken not so much
>>223101575Forgot to add, Lamb and goat are more expensive than beef sadly.
>>223090396I eat BBQ all the time, I have no clue how much it costs
>>223090396It’s 8 dollary doos for a good steak at a store
>>223101215Jeg søkte på det der. Er jeg på en liste nå?
>>223090396>buys meat from some expensive hipster butcher>WAOW IT'S EXPESIVE GOIUYS
>>223102055>go to the local butcher instead of the supermarket>"hipster"Nice try though
>>223102081>Gutta på Hagen>Annis entrecote PREMIUMthere is no such thing as a local butcher, local butcher is a thing for hipsters, they always have high prices compared to normal places
>>223102102> there is no such thing as a local butcherThere literally are, meat doesn’t just magically appear packaged in the store you know. Gutta på Haugen is just the name of the store, similar to Strøm-Larsen. The fact that it says premium doesn’t change that it’s still just standard Norwegian Red cattle, it’s just a nicer cut, but otherwise literally the same breed as what you buy in the supermarket.
>>223090396can't even find good beef because 99,5% goes for export
>>223102210yet somehow all those "local" shops have produce that is always significantly more costly than anything you can find in a normal grocery shop I never go to such places because it's that expensive
>>223102210Most NFR like 99.9%++ isn't sorted so if you just look at the packages of first price entrecote for 1/3 of the price and pick a firm marbled piece you get literally the same as that premium cut. You pay a 200% premium for someone else to pick the best quality for you.
>>223102360Except that’s literally not true. Entrecôte bought directly from Strøm Larsen for example has lower price per kilo than entrecôte from the in-store meat counter at meny (kjøttdisken). https://meny.no/varer/kjott/storfekjott/entrecote/entrecote-2000732500005This is 499kr per kghttps://oda.com/no/products/15265-strom-larsen-hel-entrecote-av-storfe/This is 393kr per kgIf you’re thinking about those prepackaged stuff in the cooler, the reason that’s cheaper is because it’s either imported or lower quality cuts.
I wouldn't know, I don't buy a lot of beef, mostly ground beef to make hamburgers and pastaI prefer seafood anyway
>>223102426What do you mean not sorted, NorgesGruppen use their own butchers while going to a local grossist will often use a local butcher, local farms etc.
>>223102512>own butchersThey source from Nortura
>>223102548Yeah I was imprecise. I meant to say that the supply chain is quite different.
>>223102512>>223102561Practically all NFR has a supply chain that consist of sending them to a slaughterhouse and putting them in vacuum, without sorting the quality in any way. The cut in the op is an exception where at some slaughterhouse a tiny volume is sorted and they get the premium meat. The local butchers is highly unlikely to source directly from a local farm, but gets unsorted vacuum packed meat they take out of vacuum. The only alternative supply chain of any volume that exists is for angus-meat but that isn't sorted for quality either.
>>223102738> The local butchers is highly unlikely to source directly from a local farm, but gets unsorted vacuum packed meat they take out of vacuumWtf you clearly have no idea how meat production works
not terribly compared to other countries but its going upits like $15 - $20 for a nice steak, probably like 17-25 for a ribeye
>>223102738This is from the butcher the meat in OP is from (Annis pølsemakeri), literally states that the meat hasn’t been vacuum packedhttps://polsemakeri.no/produkt/entrecote-torrmodnet/#tab-description
>>223102769Clearly it's you that don't know shit. The butchers at Meny get their meat in vacuum from Nortura. They don't get some premium NFR while the lesser quality goes somewhere else. It's similar for specialised butcher shops, but they might get meat from fatland or other slaughterhouse. What practically doesn't happen (the meat in op is an exception) is a sorting in the alaughterhouse, like in USA, where meat gets classified depending on qualities like prime, choice etc.
>>223102852>>223102836That was actually the wrong product, my badhttps://polsemakeri.no/produkt/entrecote-premium/#tab-description> Vi velger ut kjøttet fra norsk storfe av rasen NRF, i tett samarbeid med slakteriet, basert på våre strenge krav til marmorering, fettfordeling og kjøttkvalitet
>>223102869You literally said op could just go to a random store and just carefully find a first price entrecôte that would be exactly the same lol
>>223102889Sorry I got confused and so was the anon I replied to apparently. If its been properly dry matured then it will have lower water weight. But except from that it will not be different from a firm marbled piece of first price meat from Norway. But you can dry age it yourself at home to for some days. Now turns out the meat in the op doesn't say it hasn't been in vacuum.
>>223102935But it does say that it is picked out (aka sorted) by the slaughterhouse based on specifications they give them.
>>223102951Yes, that's why I wrote that was an exception. The great majority of meat isn't sorted. Annis' volume is very very small compared to the total volume of NFR.
So since First Price meat isn't sorted you can find premium quality like the one that is sorted for Annis, as well as lesser qualities.
>>223102990This is just moving the goalpost desu. Your original claim is that op or anyone could just go through the cooler at the supermarket and find a similar cut among the first price entrecôtes, which is just a ridiculous premise to begin with… as if someone has the time to manually sift through hundreds of packages at ten or more different kiwis in order to find the one prime cut that somehow no one else didn’t pick up before you. But that aside, you said that slaughterhouses don’t sort anything they just vacuum pack everything and then the butchers sort, which is clearly not the case.
>>223103014Good luck finding that and hoping that no one else found it before you. I would like a source on the claim that nortura doesn’t sort because I suspect they do and you’re full of shit tbqh
>>223103072
>>223103098So it is sorted? Lmao
>>223103057>Your original claim is that op or anyone could just go through the cooler at the supermarket and find a similar cut among the first price entrecôtes, which is just a ridiculous premise to begin with… as if someone has the time to manually sift through hundreds of packages at ten or more different kiwis in order to find the one prime cut that somehow no one else didn’t pick up before you.If there is 10 packages of first price entrecote, it's likely at least 1-2 is "premium", in my experience.>>223103057>But that aside, you said that slaughterhouses don’t sort anything they just vacuum pack everything and then the butchers sort, which is clearly not the case.For the majority of the volume, everything that is labeled as steak-meat isn't further sorted. We're talking 99.9% or more of the total volume. The OP-meat is an exception.
>>223103142Is this the same «1-2 out of 10» as the «1 or 2 out of 10 people» that enjoy onions? Aka anecdote straight out of your ass?
>>223103098>>223103132That classification is used for how much the farmer gets paid. When something is good enough for steak, it doesn't get sorted anymore (again with very few exceptions). >>223103177Not that anon.
>>223096120Why are scandis so ultra submissive to food industry propaganda?
>>223103142Seems to me like you’re full of shit because according to this steak meat is classified in Norway https://www.animalia.no/no/ravare-og-foredling/klassifisering/utdypende-informasjon-om-klassifisering-og-kalkyleskjaring-av-slakt/
>>223103204When the meat has passed the sorting for being steak, it doesn't get further sorted or classified, that's ehat I meant and I should have been clear about that: >>223103202
>>223103202So without opening packages you just need to eyeball it through the vacuum seal and hope for the best. Got it. The «very few» in your «very few exceptions» seems relative. I just looked up another random delicatesse store Jacob’s, seem like they too get to specify their criteria to the slaughterhouse and get them to pick out meat for themhttps://askoservering.no/vare/3061199> Dyrene er valgt ut fra spesifikke krav, som dyrets alder, vekt, kjøttfylde, og oppvekstvilkår. Alt for å sikre et garantert mørt, smakfullt og ekstra saftig stykke storfekjøtt.So seems to me that actually sorting is quite common after all if you steer away from the budget low cost brands.
>>223103220See >>223103248
>>223103248As I said, and should have been clearer about, yes there is sorting but in general and for most of the volume it's "good enough for steak/whole pieces" and "goes to mince meat". So yes the Jacobs is sorted, but probably it's not sorted any further after it's been classified as good enough for steak.
In general, all meat in E, U and R class is considered "good enough" for steak (there’s individual rankings used for fat percentage etc). Jacob’s utvalgte is NorgesGruppen’s own luxury brand and they explicitly only select E class meat for those steaks. First price is also a NorgesGruppen brand. It’s not like don’t differentiate between those two brands that would be retarded since why would you pay premium price when you could just go for the budget price. Anon’sclaim is really stupid IMO.
>>223103382>Jacob’s utvalgte is NorgesGruppen’s own luxury brand and they explicitly only select E class meat for those steaks.Source?>>223103382>why would you pay premium price when you could just go for the budget price.Because of small Norwegian brains.
>>223103382NorgesGruppen also choose steaks for Jacob’s utvalgte from specific farms, such as Prima Jæren.
>>223090396That's probably a bit more expensive than here but premium of a good cut will be expensive... Mince can be as cheap as 60₪/k for decent quality and you can stoop lower if you're desperate
First price is NRF, Jacob’s is usually Limousine, Charolaise, Hereford and Aberdeen Angus.
>>223103382You seem like you know Meat, can you tell me some cheap meats I can get in our country?
Nevermind, jacob's does jindeed specially select yet it's nothing like the US classification.
>>223103453So you wanna rephrase your claim that picking up a low cost budget steak (first price) is going to have the same quality as high end brands if you just sre a bit picky and have a lot of time? Or do we need to find a third example of a high end brand that selects prime meat?
>>223103451You could do like the gypsies here do, just go bash some ducks in the river with rocks and enjoy some lovely free duck meat. (I’m not joking, gypsies literally ate a duck species native to Oslo/akerselva to near extinction a couple of years ago)
>>223103491Well that Annis meat in OP is NRF and those mostly don't get sorted. So yes you can absolutely find same quality among the first price packages.
>>223103584But from the website it was clear that the annis meat was handpicked by the slaughterhouse to match the criteria wrt fat and marmorisering and also it is already matured. Not to mention that it is almost 500g. Don’t think first price entrecôte comes in any other size than 180g but maybe I’m mistaken.
Ok where the fuck is ribeye what the fuck is entrecote
>>223090396It's a extremely high quality cut of meat though right?
