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How are people living in the West broke and doing bad?

Literally just get a good education, then a good job and live well. You'd have to be a retard to be poor in western Europe and the US.
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People just aren't that bright and if you haven't heard of it yet, there is an actual mental illness epidemic on top of it.
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>>223116627
Why would you think this, you dumb thirdie mindset nigger?
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>>223116627
TRVKE
Firsties who fail at life are genuinely too retarded to be alive, they would have been eaten alive in the third world like this amerifat >>223116762
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>>223116627
>>223116853
You just don't understand, they're 25 years old and their life is over and beyond saving. It's impossible for them to move out from their moms house and get a job because of reasons
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>>223116663
>>223116762
>>223116853
If I was born in the first world I would unironically be at the top of society at this point. Most westerners people are just lazy.
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>>223116916
No, they are just stupid and sick. Laziness isn't even a real thing.
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>>223116627
I've been saying it forever. In America you have to want to be poor to be poor. You literally have to try to be poor here.
But you e got a lot of ass-ignorant people out there, just literal retards who can't make it work.
In America you don't even need an education to not be poor. I make 42k a year and I never finished 8th grade
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>>223116627
You're fucking stupid, you know that?
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>>223116853
I know :/
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>>223116627
>West
*America
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>>223116853
Thirdies can't even show up to work consistently and on time, let alone eventually be productive, that's why you're still thirdies. You would never survive a full time job here you rat.
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Religious people invented this laziness shit, and guess what? They haven't solved it after more than thousand years. People are mainly sick. And most 'intellectuals' are a bunch of fucking cowards that wouldn't investigate the true roots of things if it would go against the interests of the powerful. Laziness happens due to a number of different factors and one of them is chronic inflammation.
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>>223117032
Had it ever occurred to you that you might be nepotistic or lucky, not intelligent or hard-working?
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>>223116941
>>223117078
Dumb thirdie schizo making excuses for his laziness as usual
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>>223117131
I'm not lazy. I have produced more value than you will ever make in your entire life. Specially considering that I'm solving 'laziness'.
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>>223117077
You get fired if you do that shit, meanwhile in the west you can take a day off because you SHART on your way to work or got sad because a tv show character died or some dumb shit
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>>223117101
>Nepotistic or lucky
W was homeless from 17 to 30. Then I just got my shit together and became a security guard.
Got promoted for good work and became a supervisor
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I can't believe this fucking tragedy of a world where these rich fucks in the US or Poland enjoy untold wealth while people here work all day every day for pennies.
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>>223116627
>ow are people living in the West broke and doing bad?
There is nothing to do in the late game
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>>223117032
>just work hard and you can be barely above the poverty line like me.
Average income for black americans is $52k/yr. For whites is $77k/yr. Your literally ARE the poor.
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>>223117485
All my bills are paid and I'm not struggling tho. That's more than I can say for many
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>>223116627
yes I'm literally retarded
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My case was just a worst case example. Imagine if you actually learn a trade or skill or actually go to college. You can do anything you want, being poor is 100% a personal vhoice
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This guy >>223117611 is dropping a Trvke

Pay attention
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The job market is incredibly bad
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>>223119267
housing market even worse
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>>223117734
Why can't you learn protein folding or particle physics or whatever in college and then become rich, like you imagine possible in even some dark backwater of Canada?
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>>223116627
Bosnia isn't a shithole. It's a proper nation with law and order. You can't suffer in Bosnia either. Look at you....you have electricity, you have internet access, surely you have running water too.

You can only suffer in most of subsahara Africa, all of -stan nations, with the exception of Kazakhstan. And some SEA nations like Laos, Cambodia, Bangladesh.
Anywhere else, YOU CAN'T SUFFER.
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>>223120149
There is no university here. The closest one is two hours away by car.
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>>223121218
Why don't you just move to the city where the university is? It's an easy investment to make in good faith, since by your procurement of the diploma you'll quickly make the difference back and then some.
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>>223121633
Because I have no money and no job. Moving to a city would also require me to work and attend uni at the same time and I have no idea how to pull that off.
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>>223116627
Addiction, gang culture, and broken families. We literally have every economic opportunity possible, I grew up in a white trash drug addict house and im like middle class now doing relatively well for myself. Unfortunately sometimes you need to sacrifice friendsa and family stuck in their own bullshit behind and it can be a hard decision to make.
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>>223121722
If you had set out this morning, you'd already be halfway or to the university by now. Instead, you're at home typing on 4chan. You don't need a job, you just need to get your diploma from the university, and then you will have no want for money or a job ever again. So why do you idle?
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>>223121947
My guy have you seen the fuel prices? How am I going to get to uni and back every day for classes? I don't have the money for that. If I get a job then I won't have the time to attend uni, which means I can't take the exams.
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>>223116627
Because houses are 20-30x salary and the taxes are extortionate.
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>>223121853
What did you do to end up middle class?
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>>223117078
Didn't know Brazilians were this based.
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>>223122262
I would remove my legs with a rusty spoon if someone promised me British citizenship.
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>>223116627
>just get ... a good job
Therein lies the problem.
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>>223122244
Why can't you walk to the university city and take up residence there? You're wasting time here.

>If I get a job then I won't have the time to attend uni, which means I can't take the exams.
You're getting distracted, I need you to focus on the axioms you hold to be true. If the university diploma grants you wealth and money, then you need only study for it, you don't need to work now or after you earn it.
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>>223122298
nobody is stopping you from illegally entering, destroying your passport and claiming asylum while saying you're from afghanistan
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>>223122354
In fact I believe the UK government would even allow him citizenship if he removes the legs of a white Briton with a rusty spoon instead. Truly, DEIs cannot suffer.
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>>223122323
My friend, the university is more than 100km away from me, I can't walk there. To be able to live there I need money, which I do not have. If I got a job I would not be able to attend classes. If you do not attend classes you do not qualify for exams.

How do I overcome this?
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>>223122354
I'm not going to do weird criminal shit like that.
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>>223122401
You don't have a student-worker status? where the professor sends you teh material, and you learn things by yourself, and you attend classes only if possible?
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>>223122298
Unfortunately we're full. Please don't come. Also, it's actually a complete shithole. You don't want to be here.
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>>223116627
I'd say a mix of being lazy and/or bad money skills. Quick loans can wreck you badly; it's insane to me that they aren't outlawed. Genuinely life-ruining.
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>>223122438
What are they doing in Portugal?
Can I get that if I found a job in your country? That's some shit you'd find in Yugoslavia.
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>>223122423
okay a 100% legal, tried and tested way to get a french citizenship
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Foreign_Legion
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>>223122401
My friend, if you can walk, you can walk there.

>To be able to live there I need money
Just use the money that you're living with now, at your home. From whence is that funding coming from if you can only use it there, are you under house arrest?

>If I got a job I would not be able to attend classes. If you do not attend classes you do not qualify for exams.
You wouldn't be studying if you were out working, anyway.

I can't really understand it. You're so close to a golden ticket that generates money and status but you just idle at home on 4chan. Why do you do this?
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>>223122473
>we're full

oh shut it mate. There's plenty of room left in Hebrides islands. I can go live there
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>>223116627
I lost my software engineering job last year and have been unemployed since
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>>223122271
Started working while in hs, saved up money, graduated, and went to a trade school to learn welding. I make like 65k a year now which is pretty good in my rural ass state
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>>223122473
For all the problems Britain is a wonderful country, or at least the literature I read makes it seem so. Have you read J. L. Carr's A Month In The Country?
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>>223122542
Not many employers are happy with that, but yes you can do this in Portugal.
My mother got her degrees in her 40's like this, but her employer were cool, she was already working there for 15 years.
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>>223116627
Even with a good education and a decent job you cant afford a place and a car at least in western europe
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>>223122665
Cars are cheap, houses aren't
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>>223122627
>Written in 1980
Chesta Brittania nun esiste cchiu
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>>223122586
Walking 15 - 20 hours a day is not something I will be doing. I don't really spend money expect on electricity and the like. Obviously if it I end up having to maintain a normal lifestyle I'd end up a pauper.

>>223122619
I should really look into welding. Might help me.
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>>223116627
People will always take advantage of their setting. In third world they either scam or rightfully die or get beaten to death from borrowing too much whereas first world they take welfare or sit on their asses in comfortable benefits.
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>>223122720
Women police wear those kinds of hats here as well

>>223122770
Why has Allah not made me a White person?
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>>223122736
You're just choosing to idle at home then, when you could easily move to the university city and then, wielding a diploma, effectively gain a midas touch.

Would you even get up and walk to the outhouse to take a shit? Or do you just shit yourself?
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>>223122640
What kind of jobs accept anyone in Portugal? Also do you guys have English language degrees?
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>>223122736
>should really look into welding
I'd recommend it. Im not sure how it is over in the balkans but theres a high demand for newer welders over here because a bunch of the old heads are retiring and a lot of people arent filling the jobs opening up. Some of the jobs earn as much as 100k plus if you're working for some of the oil companies instead of the manufacturing job I do
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I think what it all boils down to in the end is whether you had a loving, caring family growing up, doesn't have to be your biological parents, could be a sibling, or just some parental figure that takes you under the wing and raises you and shows you how things work, gives you a sense of security.
Miss out on this and you'll grow up cynical and society will seem hostile and alien and any acts of kindness will fly over your head, kids need to be carefully lowered into society, if you just drop them they will crack in some way and you end up with CEO psychos, junkies, neets and all other undersriable behavior
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>>223124114
That helps, but it is not that simple. You could have all that and still end up fucking everything up, things are complicated, anon. Unfortunately...
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>forced out at 18
>housing crisis
>debtmaxxing from 18
>cant get a student job bc of migrants taking them and doing them full time
>fuck up my studies due to adhd
>no frens cause of tism
>gap in CV created
>graduate in compsci (masters) at 27
>nobody wants to hire me
life is really about winning the 1. parental home lottery 2. mental health / normieness lottery
I did everything to my best and got nothing
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>>223117077
youre kidding, people in third world countries have to work more hours for lower pay even adjusted for the cost of living.
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>>223125221
Nah I made it out after drawing a shit hand. Its doable its just difficult just have to adapt to changing times. Life never goes the way you expect it fully
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>>223122595
same
>>223116627
their ancestors worked hard to create the garden of eden for them to chill and enjoy the civilization they created and then a very small demographic of people decided to flood the garden of eden with third world masses. now everything is fucked up
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>>223116627
ps2 rock band guitar hero algorithm
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>>223116627
>Literally just get a good education, then a good job
They don't even need to do that. A McDonald's burger flipper in USA or Europe makes more than doctors with residence in the third world.
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>>223116627
You think america is like the movies don't you?
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>>223127028
It is so insanely expensive here, median rent is like 950 a month for a 1 bedroom. Groceries are about 400. Plus you need a car, which can vary a lot in price but it usually drains much of your savings.
You can make more money here, but it is also really expensive.



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