how long would it realistically take me to learn spanish if I tried really really hard (studied for 30 minutes a day)
4 months
spanish is extremely easy
>>223121644>>223121659can portuguese and italian speakers learn spanish in a few months too
>>22312159130 minutes studying plus a couple of hours of exposition? Like 9 months maximum?
>>223121685Yeah, we really just need to pick up some Spanish words and learn a few different grammar patterns. Besides, we don't actually have to learn Spanish since we can get by with portunhol. We already understand almost everything people say in Spanish, even if we've never studied it
>>223121831should I just learn portuguese instead? I like brazil better than colombia
>>223121644>>223121659>>223121687OP is a neet about to become a drug mule for the cartel
>>223121883how did you know I was a neet
>>223121856Portuguese grammar and pronunciation are way tougher than Spanish. I'm not sure if people who learn Portuguese end up understanding Spanish the way we do, and if you learn Spanish you're probably not going to understand Portuguese nearly as well. But one thing's for sure, it's a lot easier for Americans to sound native in Spanish than in Portuguese
>>223121591>>223121687How exactly do you structure 30 minutes of language practice a day?I want to learn a language but i only know duolingo like a normie and that seems useless.
>>223122196Get one of those textbooks, read theory, complete the exercises. Then it is all about exposing yourself to the language. I manage to learn French in 9 months doing something like that, I did the whole Michel Thomas course, and then moved on to watch shows in French. One thing that I had to do and that I noticed that had a significant influence in my results was that I did watch the same show over and over again. So there is that, this is probably key to language learning, this repetition is something that you can't avoid. You have to go after it, so pick something that you actually enjoy, and it won't end up being a chore.
>>223122320Is there a specific line of textbooks that is better than others? What is michel thomas course
>>223122404Michel Thomas was some old Polish polyglot that survived the holocaust. He died many years ago but he basically instructs novices in new languages through pure immersion (no notes, no going over grammar, just basic speaking and listening comprehension). You can buy recordings of his lessons >>223122320Do you think it took you less time to master French because you already speak a Romance language?
>>223122404for spanish specifically?Check out language transfer https://www.languagetransfer.org/
>>223122560You learned spanish with this?
>>223122649no. I have not learned spanish, that's why I posted this thread. I am a NEET who has not had a job in 6 years. I have not learned anything.
>>223122682So why recommend some product you have never tried
>>223122059I understand Spanish but not Portuguese. Some words are obvious and memes can be fine to get but otherwise it's too different.
>>223122731I don't know
>>223122560It’s kind of bullshit how Spanish has like +90 lessons but French has less than +50. I get that Spanish is more widely spoken but why does Greek have more lessons?Plus the facilitator is British. Don’t Brits learn French over Spanish in school?
>>223122404It is an audio course, they are good. I did the foundation French, and I don't remember which other ones, but after that it was basically just consuming media. I would watch the same 30 episodes over and over again for 9 months without any subtitles. After that I just started making sense of it, I can watch French videos on youtube and understand somewhat just fine. I even managed to pick words from a phone recording that was particularly challenging but I managed to make sense of it. So I think that works decently. And I think any textbook works, you could use duolingo if you want to. It is just that you have to also be exposed to the language, don't skip this step. I would watch 2 hours daily of content in French, and it would be something that was repeating over and over again. So around 2 hours of a total of 15 for 9 months. This got me watching news and whatever in French and making sense of it. I starting to do this with German, and I can make sense of some words.>>223122492Being a Portuguese speaker and knowing English did help, but I somewhat did that with German, didn't got to 9 months, however I had decent results 3 months in, so not exactly.
>>223121685I learnt it perfectly in 8 months (I wrote my degree thesis in it), but they are both Neo-Latin languages. If you are an English speaker it's as if you learnt Dutch. For you it's more difficult, but in a few months you should speak fairly well at least for generic everyday topics.
>>223122739Written Portuguese looks a lot like Spanish desu but spoken Portuguese is a whole different story. Grammar books never tell you about vowel reduction, syllables disappearing, consonants getting dropped, and everything else that happens in real speech. We know it too, which is why there are so many jokes and memes about foreigners learning Portuguese only to get humbled the first time they hear natives talking
>>223123757I didn't even realize it would be easy for me to learn Dutch. Would it be easier for me to learn dutch vs spanish?
you need a good teacher
>>223123775Yeah that's what I noticed irl. I can understand some simple written things but people talking is absolutely impossible. Spanish is quite easy to learn as a Frenchie.
>>223124073AAAHHHHH
>Spanish>Posts a SEA Mutt
>>223125835filipinos should speak spanish. I think its weird they cannot
>>223121591a long fucking time, I have a house in Mexico, I used duolingo which is okay but not great, immersion doesn't work that fastwe are talking years, amigo
>>223123757>I learnt it perfectly in 8 monthsyour language is very similar
>>223125851My wife's Filipino.Boomers have Spanish names but 80% of young people have American sounding English names. Some names are ridiculous like "Princess" "Kitty"" Girlie". Or even the name is just initials that doesn't stand for anything lol. Like "JJ Gomez". Then there are the even more atrocious names that combine parent names (very common). Like Jordan+Angelica = "Jorgelica" or something lolAfrican-American tier
>>223126009>Then there are the even more atrocious names that combine parent names (very common). Like Jordan+Angelica = "Jorgelica" or something lolkek wtf
>>223125851Yo soy a Filipino un hablo Español, pero estudiar Español en a Collegio del los fundados es frailes Españoles de Orden Augustinos Recoletos. Las Islas Filipinas originalemente hablo Español pero el colonizaćion Americano, replicar idioma Español como Ingles. Los ultimos, 1.2 Million Filipinos hablo un Lengua Criolla "Chabacano", un a lengua criolla basado de Español-Mejicano. Gracias por pabor, mi amigo. Yo soy y Hispano Paisanos es los guapos y cerebrares.
>>223121591It depends dude,it depends on how much you apply yourself,it depends on how good your teacher/instructors are,it depends on how fast you personally get to learn new languages in general. Only you can know
>>223126239the only real answer here
>>223121591ps2 rock band guitar hero algorithm
>>223126190is this a copypasta?
>>223121591at 30 minutes a day it would take you 2-5 years. Grammar is easy, but then there's all the verbs, idioms, reading comprehension, listening comprehension, speaking.
>>223127068No. Legit, yo hablo Espanyol, mi negrito.
>>223121591Why would you consider learning Spanish?
>>2231215916 months if you were doing it as a full time job30 minutes isn't really enoughyou won't make any progress
