>What language(s) are you learning?>Ask questions about your target language!>Help people who want to learn a new language!>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!>Do not reply to the Jordanian!>Make frens!**Comprehensible Input Wiki**https://comprehensibleinputwiki.org/wiki/Main_PageRead the wiki:https://4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_WikiUseful links:>Free language‐learning book archive:https://mega.nz/folder/INlRkAQC#CthKI9-_kmDNyrOx12Ojbw>Books on linguistics and language courses:https://mega.nz/#F!Ad8DkLoI!jj_mdUDX_ay-8D9l3-DbnQ>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:https://pastebin.com/ACEmVqua>Torrents with more resources than you’ll ever need for 30 plus languages:https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH>Russianon’s list of comprehensible input resources:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXd0V32TjCFsr1-F_en_lA4MI-i7JtyYf26cWLtPRec>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by familyhttps://theswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/>/lang/ inpoot torrentshttps://rentry.org/inpoot>Refold Anki deckshttps://rentry.org/refold>Non-English piracy siteshttps://fmhy.net/non-englishPrevious Thread: >>223117443
A fun but completely useless application of language skills. Reading the warranty letter for a piece of lab equipment at work.
>>223183782Read the copyright infringement notice at the end of DVD movies after the credits.
learned:>English>Dutch>GermanLearning:>French>Chinese To learn:>Russian>Italian>Arabicso much work to do
>>223184430> den Koning van Hispanjeheb ik altijd geëerd.
>>223184517>*
>>223184430All to fluency? Feels like an impossible task. Also italian is a conlang. I would replace it with japanese despite me hating it because italian is a meme with little to no culture or interest.
I want to pass a B2 in November, but to do that, I think I need to improve my listening from a Low/Medium score on the B1, to at least a Low (but passing) score on the B2.Is this attainable with 30-60 minutes a day of just listening to the news and watching TV? Can I attain this natty?I did the B1 and passed with a "Good" but I'm pretty sure that my listening score must have been really low (I still don't have a detailed breakdown of the results), and therefore, I'm certain that with where my skill is now, I would fail in the B2.I'm not worried about any of the other skills because I think they are either good enough or I have a strategy to fix them already.
>>223184430>Chinese Russian and ArabicUnrealistic from the get go
>>223184789Italian has a cool vibe. But so do French. But I agree to some extent that Italian is kind of a meme. In a sense, it's culturally similar to Japanese (peaking in the '80s and '90s, mountainous terrain with water all around, automotive industry and culture, a strong emphasis on aesthetics, anni di piombo / yakuza, and they probably have a similar age structure, bireaucracy), but Japanese has more contemporary content>>223186209I thought you were already approaching C1. I need to reassess my expectations I think. You have trouble listening to French, yes? Or German?
>>223186209>t. Not the portuguese flag that is learning German>>223187430I'm not the portuguese flag learning german. i am learning portuguese.it turns out that even though i can (or thought i could) understand portuguese pretty well in my day-to-day and in the workplace, i struggled a lot in the listening part. I think partly it was due to the format (which I did not study) but, most difficultly, that all of the audios are pretty much arbitrary audio excerpts from news reports and interviews. so your brain has to be ready to understand WTF is going on very very quickly.
why would I speak another language? god made English for a reason
How do you guys use the nature method? Do you just passively listen? Do you pause after each sentence and repeat? I'm not sure what my approach should be to make the most of it. French btw
>>223188110This is what I said. Frankly we should just help teach all the third world citizens english. We shouldn't lower ourselves to learn their language. Who wants to speak chinese or spanish?
Is studying grammar necessary? I have like 12 textbooks for my target language ranging from A1 to C1 but I am honestly divided what would be more effective, study them or just keep getting input
>>223172850There are forms of media that are intended for adults while still being approachable for a beginner, often easier to understand than cartoons. Sports and cooking shows are common examples. I like horror videogame content. The player is usually always talking about what they're seeing on screen as it happens. I learned two of the world's hardest languages this way:https://youtu.be/iM-Ns2POdHk
>>223189924do you want to sound like the lang-equivalent of an AAVE nigger from Georgia?
>>223190285>do you want to sound like the lang-equivalent of an AAVE nigger from Georgia?the internet ruined european zoomers
Non-native English speakers, what's your honest opinion on our language?
>>223188035>learning Portuguese and living in PortugalThat's cool. I'd try to find some phonology tutorials on yt to know what to pay attention to. I also like Pimsleur because they tell you to pay attention to connected speech or if a certain sound is pronounced differently than in English. Other than that, I can't suggest anything, sorry. :(
>>223188795What language filtered you?
>>223190700None, I didn't bother to learn a single one. Why should I? Google translate works.
>>223190637Probably the most useful thing in the world that I happen to learn accidentally.
>>223190637Kind of gay nowodays but I used to really like it growing up. Old British shows and country music / southern rock are kino
>>223190772Liar
>>223184789>with little to no culture or interestYou clearly have never driven a Fiat Tempra. That shit was soulful
Why aren't you learning Swahili and getting yourself an African wife?
bump
>>223194652French is the better choice:>There are significantly more French-speaking countries in Africa than Swahili-speaking ones. French is an official language in 21 African nations, spanning West, Central, and North Africa. In contrast, Swahili serves as an official language in only 4 countries (Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, and Rwanda), primarily in East and Central Africa.
>>223187430>I thought you were already approaching C1I take it you were referring to me. I'm definitely not approaching C1. Possibly approaching B2 in French, at least for comprehension. As for German, well... let's just not talk about German.
Has anyone experimented with anki's custom intervals?I want to make a deck that has far wider gaps. For example, when you add a new card, you don't see it until a week later, and if you mark "easy", then you don't see it again for a month.
>>223197734>custom intervalswhat's that? there's learning intervals and custom scheduling. before fsrs i used straight rewards and learning intervals of 1m 1d 5d
>>2231979781 mound, 1 dilling, and 5 dence?
>>223197978Idk the terminology but it sounds like learning intervals is what I want to change. I'm thinking about experimenting with a deck where the intervals are much longer. Most of the cards I make aren't that hard to remember because I use audio and full sentences.But really, the idea came because I'm watching a show now with a ~2-minute scene that was filled with vocabulary I'd like to learn, and I imagined making some kind of collection of clips like that. But I imagined if I put the clip in anki, with the default setting, I would see it way too often.
Is everything about language learning space repetition?
>>223199013fsrs6 is already set with optimal scheduling and recalculates to your individual performance. it is the very magic solution to remembering things. there is no point in tweaking it.
>>223197734you can lower desired retention if you want. optimal desired retention is usually around 89-91% but you can knock it down a few points if you want to see cards less often.
>>223199195>>223199462Ty
Is even worth try to read books if you understand less than 98%?
>>223200305Sure, with lookups and translation to fill in the gaps.
Bump question: what are the best languages for online friends, except English?>>223197554Damn, I've lost the desire to dbble. It's taking forever with hard languages.
>>223182737How do I use learning languages to help make friends and meet girls?
>>223200851If you're an autist in your native language, you're an autist in every language.
>>223201084Can confirm
>>223201084You can get away with autism in some cultures better than others i.e. Japan.
>>223201084Okay but can I make autistic friends?
https://voca.ro/1cFsr6JBWPFSI won't post here as often, but I hope I can prove I stopped trolling. Once I finish A1.1 or get far in the language then I might come back and ask genuine questions.Danke schön!
>>223202288If you're an autist stay away from third world countries, they're like ultranormie and anti-ND to a level that can't comprehend some people are autistic and can't babble and spit out normietalk as good as them.
>>223202500One genuine question: Do I finish the whole level (A1.1) and then go back and review/patch any gaps in my understanding/knowledge or master everything just-in-time?The first makes me finish the whole level in time, the latter might get me stuck in a perfectionistic status that has kept me from mastering any language up until now. I might just finish it as a whole and only then review/patch the gaps then.
>>223183782whats the n level requires for this
>>223202500congrats my nigga
>>223202500>GermanLearn French
>>223182737Spending my Saturday night having Gemini speak to me in French while we discuss about the world building in New Vegas and how the developers intentionally placed settlements where water supply is accessible through wells or caravans while also discussing about how retarded Fallout 4 is. I don't understand why using AI for learning a language isn't more popular, this method is great.
>>223203370I got to be honest, I don't trust AI to give me the correct answer even if it's 95% correct. I gotta admit, I did ask it once to translate a story with context for a chekhov story to see if it would be an effective tool but the unreliability and possible hallucations make it uncomfortable to be used confidently as a resource. Also jordie appeared. How exciting.
>>223202500HE DIDHE CHOSE A LANGUAGE
>>223204078He often does but usually doesn't stick to it
>>223202500du bist schwul
epic troll idea: translate untranslated works, but translate them into esperanto.
>>223204078He's "chosen" German three times already
The most magical thing in language learning is finding and speaking a common language with someone that is neither of your's first language. I'm sure this happens all the time with ESL's and English all the time. But it is special when it is a language other than English.
one of the only interesting Greek channels I foundhttps://www.youtube.com/@philosophaea
>>223204889I chose many languages, but only German chose me.
>>223200851>>223201084>>223202288If you are socially awkward, speaking to someone in a language other than your native language allows you to get away with your deficits in social skills because people are more understanding, or they think it's a cultural difference, or they find your strange behavior interesting>>223202500Congrats!
>>223201084not really. I have bad social skills in english but not in my TLs. I only read intellectual and academic content in my NL. My TL exposure is almost all natural real casual conversation. so I'm very dry and flat and awkward in my NL but talk normally in TLs
>>223202783No idea but this is how I would see it.The kanji seem to all be in the common use range perhaps even in the 1000 most common character range. Sentence style is in formal register but not excessively so. And it's clearly intended to be informative and direct unlike prose. I'd say it's about as close as you can get to text book Japanese in the real world. The used vocab is mostly mid range frequency words. Though there are rare ones they are mostly compounds of more common ones like 保証書 from 保証and 書 or 異常電圧 from 異常 and 電圧. Then there is 天災地変 snuck in as a more literary term for natural disaster but that's about the only one. Over all something like an advanced intermediate would be required to read it without more than the occasional look up, dunno about JLPT level because I've never done one of those tests or studied for one.I'm curious what you're level is like and what your impression of the text is. Impossible? Manageable with effort?
>>223202500What makes you quit repeatedly? is it the fact that learning basic sentences in a language is a lot less engaging than watching history videos? I was excited to learn Portuguese and then I realized im retarded and should learn a coding language instead and in the end I will do neither.
Is it even realistic or healthy to learn programming to a high level and be fluent in several natural languages at the same time? Do (you) know someone within this category and what would one have to compromise on to achieve this feat?
>>223199013Use FSRS but if you want longer intervals then change the desired retention. If you drop it to 80% your intervals should be super long. Be aware you might get annoyed though cause the cards will all be super hard.
>>223207130It was the randomness of it all. I had no real reason to learn a language. I initially thought I could move to the UK after graduation but a really stupid nuance makes that move impossible. Germany is literally my only way out of the Middle East, so that's why I did in fact study everyday since I found out the UK/US/Canada/etc. door was closed.
has anyone found a Netflix series for your TL where the Netflix-provided subtitles actually match the spoken audio 99% of the time? can you tell me what it is? i was thinking of making a list of series like this for different languages and posting it somewhere for future reference.the only series I have found like this -- where the Netflix subtitles are a 100% match, for multiple foreign languages -- is "Jentry Chau vs. the Underworld".why do I want this?a common problem i have when trying to learn via input on netflix is that 99% of the time, the subtitles provided directly by Netflix do not correspond very well with the actual spoken language.**obviously this is annoying if you are trying to make mining cards (where you want the text and audio to match) and it also sucks if you are at a really low level and rely heavily on subtitles and audio matching precisely to understand what is actually being said.** while I'm not 100% sure of why this is, i think some languages have a tendency to adapt their subtitles to either (1) better match the written form of the language, to (2) remove slang, or (3) make the spoken language easier/faster to read, which can result in significant changes from the audio.
>>223205138Me when I bust out some of the Jamaican patois with the mandem in Peckham fr cuh
>>223208108Subtitles usually never match exactly in any language, they're made shorter
>>223203629What do you mean "reliable"? If your suspicious of it giving false information about something, then just use it for general conversation. AI is being used by everyone and being fed every language so unless you're learning an African tongue click language then it's not gonna give you grammatically incorrect answers.
>>223211041No, subtitles usually match perfectly with what is spoken in English.
>>223211168No they don't. Many English subs are rarely word for word. They normally drop things for brevity, often due to screen timing
>>223211041>>223211168>>223213461Subtitles, not translations, match English to English.
>>223208108Generally subtitles will only match exactly when the show was originally made in that language. Like a French tv show will have accurate French subtitles. Subtitles for other languages are created by translating the original audio. The goal is just to translate what is being said on screen. Dubs have extra problems like having to lip-sync with the characters on the screen so the script gets changed, which is why it doesn't match the subs. If there's an option for "closed captioning" in your desired language that will be an exact transcription of the language's dub.
>>223214548Yes I am on about ENGLISH SUBTITLES. They are not always one for one, and I have already told you the reason why. https://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/forproducts/guides/subtitles/#PRESENTATIONHave a BBC subtitle guide. Do the needful and redeem a rope around your neck, saaaaaarrrr ESL reading comprehension ass retard
>>223214999Backing up this anon here, even shows with a particular accent beyond human comprehension for the average english speaker like "still game" for example, they don't use the exact one to one english subtitles for what they say unfortunately.
>Language learning thread>Monolinguals arguing about their monolingual subsLove to see it
>>223214749That's just not true. I checked a Finnish tv series on Yle Areena, and they cut out words and even changed the verb tense, all in the first 10 seconds.>Sä olet kieltäytyny ottamasta vastaan sulle tarjottua työtä.>Kieltäydyit ottamasta tarjottua työtä.
>>223214999That makes seeing as the English spoken over there is borderline incomprehensible so much so the people writing the subtitles aren't even aware what the fuck is being said. Fortunately American content as in movies and television shows actually have subtitles that match what the actors are saying.
Americans really say the stupidest shit.
>>223214749This has been my experience too (German, Spanish, French, Swedish). If you want media with matching subs, you have to go for media that was originally made in that language. Also, go for newer shows that were produced by Netflix themselves.For dubs, you almost never have an accurate transcription, but there are tools like Language Reactor's automatic speech recognition that can generate pretty accurate subs in most cases. But in general, I avoid dubbed media for quite a while because the subtitle situation is dogshit in every language.
>no/lang/ers
Any other hobby 3 or 3.5 hours a day is a massive amount of time and dedication, near the ceiling of benefit, and you can become very good in a relatively short amount of time. Learning any asian language 3 hours is like the bare minimum and it'll still take you years and years even if you do that consistently every day
>>223200784>Bump question: what are the best languages for online friends, except English?indonesian, korean, spanish, chinese
>>223182737cool helmet. I always liked that Bismark style helmet, they seem practical. open around the ears for hearing, and a slight brim at the brow and neck for some added protection without being cumbersome. I would wear something like that in a fantasy setting. Maybe without the top spike because I am boring.
>>223183782I always like reading the manuals of products if they include my TL. Can be pretty challenging sometimes with the technical language even for something like a blender
>>223188544I used the natural method primarily for french especially the Le Français Par La Méthode Nature videos on youtube. What I did was largely just listen to the videos without pause, but I would listen to the videos multiple times. I've graduated to native podcasts for my input and I still do repeat listens.
I wish it were possible to learn more than like 5 foreign languages. I would like to know Latin, German, French, Ancient Greek, Italian, Russian, Polish, Arabic and Mandarin, but sadly it's not going to happen.I will probably just be satisfied enough with knowing English, Latin, German, French and Ancient Greek.
>>223222153I have an entire list of languages I would learn if there were enough time
>>223222409What list is that? Similar to mine?
>>223222431All romance and germanic languagesJapaneseSlavic languagesOther major asian languages like Chinese and KoreanGeorgian
>>223182737>hoe white woman>nigger responding >world claps
i would not learn it but its interesting how icelandic has less speakers than dhivehi but has more literature history arts well everything
Learn Spanish.
>>223226085I'd rather learn catalan desu
>>223222431How do you study latin grammar and declensions?
Is anyone else learning a language but not actually interested in speaking it? I'm fine with being able to understand it through reading and listening, but I have no desire to speak it at all
Well Spain wonHow do I learn Castilian to at least a B2 level in a year?
>>223227701
>>223226085what if i want to learn serbian?
>>223227783Now why the hell would you wanna do that?
>>223227999he could get a qt serbian gf like in that gif
>>223227999i like serbs, simple as
>>223228117Erm, based?
>>223227497I would respond but I'm too tired at the moment
til you can form questions by putting -tu after the verb in quebec french
Getting tired of pure audio input because I have a complex about listening to stuff I already know about. So even these CI "for adults" episodes are unbearable. No, I don't want to hear about Campbell's monomyth in French.So after inpooting for 100 (50, 200, I have no idea) hours in French I'm thinking of moving to native radio content with whisper.cpp generated transcripts making it comprehensible.Got good results with two episodes about people disappearing in Boscodon. With the subtitles I could follow along pretty well.
I hate getting input from videos and I only like books and audiobooks. Can I still make progress despite no visual clues?
>>223229396I think so. Might be slower because you'd need to look everything up.
>>223227497https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QhpM9hG-TI
>>223226085Bro asked for the Louis XIV
>>223229396I think reading is the most efficient way to accumulate massive input. Look up words if they bother you.There might be some connection between the content you consume and your output. Like young people here (in Finland) can speak English much better than I do. I think it's because they learned English through Tiktok and getting groomed on Discord or whatever while I mostly learned it through reading fantasy books by Robin Hobb and GRRM (and by playing text heavy CRPGs). The only conscious choice I ever made while learning English was watching British shows without subtitles, since at some point I realized I couldn't understand the regional accents. But this was like 15 years ago.Now that I think of it, maybe watching only audiovisual content IS important. You could try the radio? Usually you can just listen to everything the public radio stations put out, you don't even need a VPN or anything. Unless you really don't care about speaking, then just read books.
>>223227752I wish there were more guides like this for other languages
it is decided, (You) must learn spanish con el acento de Ethpaña
>>223183782>>223221697I only read manuals in TL, if I fuck something up due to not understanding it's a skill issue and my own fault for not getting good enough
>>223186209>Can I attain this natty?idc what you can attain natty. i want to know the non-natty methods. anybody in here juicing for langs?
Is AI as obvious in other languages as it is in English? What are the AI-isms of your lang?
>>223190875>Probably the most useful thing in the world that I happen to learn accidentally.This
>>223229964mid absoloto
anki gigachadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WtznlsP6M8
I met a Colombian at the shops with a name tag labeled ‘Jhon’. I was pretty confused, even though I am conversational in Spanish.
I think I'm depressed or something and my brain is trying to rationalize its way out of Japanese
>>223232040off with your head
Do you know the name of everything in your bedroom in your Target Language?No?Then SIT DOWN.
>>223236441Forrow Japanese warrior desu yo
>>223237028Alright but should I just stick to the language? I know sunk cost fallacy is a thing, but it's gonna take me a long time and my interests could change by the time it's over.
>learning a completely pointless foreign language for no reason
Good thing all my languages are triangular.
>>223237356It's a curse that this is the only language with good material in every medium (other than English obviously)
>>223237833>wasting his free time on the same pointless ritual post for no reason
>>223237356>Alright but should I just stick to the language?Depending on your goal, maybe. If you intend to move there and live there for the rest of your life exclusively speaking Japanese, then yes (but also assuming you have other things going for you beyond your Japanese).If not, your goal should be reflective of your intent. Learning something to an abstract idea of fluency makes little sense if your actual goal is to be conversationally-abled. At the end of the day you are not Japanese, and they don't expect you to be able to speak their language in the first place. They will never treat you like a Japanese person, so just have fun with it and make all the mistakes you want. Recline your chair on the train without asking and whatnot.
Might learn Spanish fr
learning a foreign language is like observing wild animals
Anyone ever taken online group classes?
>>223231629All Chinese academic writing already sounds like AI lol
>>223227752did. you make this one?
>>223227752Alternatively, after grammar primer and refold deck, gospels, wider bible, cervantes, la celestina, 100 years of solitude; while every day watching an hour of telenovellas.
What's the hardest language anyone here has ever tried to learn? For me, it's Georgian
>>223241575Yeah, but it was a while ago so some of the stuff is outdated.>>223241865You're not going to be reading Cervantes or 100 years of solitude after learning your first 1000 words, amigo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPlL6skOOp8bump
>>223243246Can you read English? I clearly said AFTER the gospels and wider bible. It's how I did Latin after all. I.e. once you have a full grasp on grammar, several hundred pages of literary reading volume, and a vocab of at least a couple thousand.
>>223245011That's still pretty tough, even ignoring the fact that the Bible is a dry read. Telenovelas also aren't a walk in the park. You'll have to do lookups no matter what, but the point is to flatten the difficulty curve and keep the amount of lookups manageable and not overwhelming. Couple thousand vocab is also nothing because even "entry-level" books like Harry Potter have a unique word count much higher than that.
>>223182737somebody posted the full set of photos, she's a bit more bogged in the other pics. I think she's danish or swedish or something
>>223245898It’s called Zipf’s law. For my part personally, though not my general advice to others, any given page of Spanish or French is largely comprehensible already. Just to double check I opened a copy of Les miserables and a history of a crime, both by Hugo, and found in those 2 pages about 3 words I truly did not know. Tolerance for ambiguity is also a skill for grinding out texts. I.e. you can always move on without going into detail on a hard passage, you always have the book and can come back to it. I’m busy but I know I have a copy of Don Quixote somewhere a friend gave me so I can check my day one input. It’s a personal preference thing, some people find engaging with canonical works inherently motivating.
>>223243246>Yeah, but it was a while ago so some of the stuff is outdated.neat. what software did you use for making the swedish one? it looked nice. im retarded so i dont the first thing about design software, but i was thinking id like to make one of these for pt-pt and maybe someday croatian
>>223246395>I opened a copy of Les miserables and a history of a crime, both by Hugo, and found in those 2 pages about 3 words I truly did not knowI find that hard to believe, but perhaps you are much more well-read than the average person.>>223246554Microsoft Whiteboard. The infinite canvas is great and you can drag and drop images and scale them up/down without losing quality. Not as much creative freedom as something like Photoshop, but you don't need much more than boxes, text and images to make a good looking chart.
How many C2 english idioms do you know anon?>a bear with a sore head>a red-letter day>be all fingers and thumbs>be all very well>be for the high jump>be full of beans>be the apple of sb’s eye>browned off>chop and change>cook one’s goose>cut sb to the quick>donkey’s years>feel down in the mouth>fine kettle of fish>go by the board>have a bee in one’s bonnet>have a yellow streak>in the offing>like water off a duck’s back>on the blink>paint the town red>talk the hind legs off a donkey
>>223246938>Monolingual english native>Only recognize a single one being paint the town redDid you make half of these up or are these idioms made by the deranged.
>>223246986paki detected
>>223246986I got them from a website. Personally the only one I recognize is red-letter day because of the Pet Shop Boys song. In context I would probably also understand "be all fingers and thumbs" although I think I only ever heard the variant "be all thumbs" (which makes more sense).
>>223247045I've heard all thumbs before, that one makes sense however all fingers and thumbs sounds dumb though>>223247002Englishman detected.
the only way I'm ever going to learn all the languages I want to know
>>223246986Full of beans, apple of sbs eye, kettle of fish, bee in the bonnet are all very common Either you're retarded or foreign
>>223247615They are not fucking common. It's raining cats and dogs are commons. Eyes bigger than your stomach is common. Fish in a kettle is what a deranged mad man think is normal.
>>223246938I recognize >red-letter day>all fingers and thumbs (although usually it's just "I'm all thumbs")>apple of sb's eye >cook one's goose >cut to the quick >go by the board >to have a yellow streak (although I've heard yellowbelly more often, like "he's a yellowbelly)>water off a duck's back >paint the town redI'd say these are relatively common. The others I don't recognize, although I could probably make a good guess at what they mean if I heard them in context. They're probably more regional sayings.
>>223246938Add the idiom "It's bong o'clock"For example, it is 8 bong o'clock and you figure this out by counting the bongs on all your fingers and thumbs.
People who learned any language, but French in particular, how did you get to being able to actually understand spoken dialogue?I can read well, but spoken language is still hard to understand outside a couple very distinct words. I know the common advice is to just start speaking, but I don't have anyone to talk to verbally. All I have is watching French videos and dubs, but I've been doing that for months with minimal progress.
Finally I came across a chick that speaks my current niche target language on a dating app. I was able to impress her with my intermediate skills and she wants to meet up. However while she is not fat or particularly ugly she barely passes as a 5-6, maybe a 6+ with makeup (small tits, mediocre face).I have my CEFR-style exam coming up in 5 months. Wat do? Should I dip and bail, string her along platonically or ride the relationship wave until the exam for a free 24/7 language teacher and then discard her?
>>223246938I know like 1/3 only and I have a C2 English cert.
>>223248518Why are you hiding your target language?
>>223248568Am I?
>>223248670You say small niche language then never name it. I want to know what it is
/jp/'s djt threads are a weird place
stop bringing it up
>>223248213When my German listening comprehension was pretty bad, I'd find the easiest graded reader and just practice listening to that. You sort of have to humble yourself and use material that's way below your reading level.You can start out with something like this. If you're struggling, listen to it while keeping on eye on the text and gradually remove the training wheels.https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2177367If you're still struggling, go for something even easier and listen to Assimil or Natural method audio.
>>223246775Anyone who isn’t mentally disabled can become well read, it’s a matter of just having a reading habit, challenging yourself to read harder texts, and trusting that you can improve.With classic texts specifically, I think people have a serious affective barrier because they assume that if a text is prestigious it must be obscenely difficult. But like, I know what a horse is, I know what a lance is, I know what a windmill is, and learning those words in Spanish is much the same difficulty as learning any 3 soccer related vocabulary items. If you put effort into school then you’re more capable than you think.
>>223249026>Anyone who isn’t mentally disabled can become well readDAMN IT
>>223248518>on a dating appWtf do people still use these? I thought they only had validation-seeking whores and fat hags?
>>223249026>Anyone who isn’t mentally disabled can become well readSure, but could they open up a 19th century novel in a language they have never studied and only find 3 unknown words? You're beyond "well-read" by most people's standards, if what you say is actually true. You're either bullshitting yourself or you're some kind of wordcel savant.
>>223249862Yes then, I am well read. But carryover from latin + english into french, with an elementary knowledge of the sound shift from latin->french, helps a lot. I also probably got lucky on the pages I opened to. But the point is that you can tackle (some) classics earlier than you think, because a work’s status as a classic does not indicate its difficulty. For example, many learn Greek with the Illiad as their first real text, because Homer’s sentences are fairly short and repetitive. The Illiad is more famous and “classic” (not more classical) perhaps than Aristotle’s Nichomachean ethics, yet the latter is far more difficult to read. Similarly, the gospels are texts of unparalleled fame and literary influence, yet they are simply written and intended for an uneducated audience.
>>223248213I learned German first and have been at French for a couple years now. Honestly, French has been much more challenging than German, especially listening. The only advice I can really give is to be patient. It just takes time and unfortunately a lot of it like an hour a day for a couple years
>>223250467an hour a day of listening that is or even more if you can. Also repeatedly listening to the same podcast or episode of a show can be very helpful. I'd also caution against relying on subtitles too much. You need to just accept you aren't gonna get everything
German, russian or japanese ?Pill me
>>223250581Japanese
>>223239130I don't plan on living in Japan or becoming Japanese or whatever.The problem is that most things are already translated into English to begin with. The only real motivation beyond that is being able to circumvent shitty localizations.
>>223251875Someone needs to create a flowchart for this or something
>>223251875>most things are already translated into English to begin with.Not really. Even for weeb shit I would say the majority is not translated, and I assume that content that doesn't have girls with massive eyes going uguu have it even worse.
>>223252229Can you give some examples? No meme answers
>>223252309regarding manga, LN and webtoons, there are tons of series that are not translated. Only the ones from popular series get scanlated and not even all from the popular ones keep getting translated.
>>223252409Are they any good? I've heard bookwalker has some manga so there's that
