Americans have a joke that goes:>"French rifles for sale! Never fired, only dropped once!"How the french like to comment on these accusations of cowardice?
>>223370073I dump manure on your McDonald
>>223370031I don't understand why people joke about us surrendering. They say it's because we surrendered in ww2, as if the surrender happened in a void and didn't follow a military defeat. There is such an insistence on it that I think people perhaps don't know the french fought or they think surrenders only comes from cowardice and they don't realize every war ends with a surrender. I think people think this because this is a famous surrender. But I don't understand why this surrender is famous in the first placeIt feels like a stereotype that created itself, it just doesn't make sense. It would have made sense if people said the French suck so bad at warfare they lost in six weeks, but that's not what people say
>>223370176*Instead they say we are cowards, but I don't know where in 1940 they see signs of cowardice, besides the surrender itself, which is really the sole reason for why people think we were cowards, even though surrender is the natural continuation of a defeat
>>223370176Maybe because the surrender came relatively very early on, like 8 months and 20 since the beginning of the second global kerfuffle. The allies weren't counting on this at all, they thought you'd actually pull your own weight.
>>223370031>NOOOOO IF YOU DON'T DIE FOR YOUR PEDO BILLIONAIRE CLASS YOU'RE A COWARD I don't get this. Americans themselves are instructed not engage a hostile target unless they outnumber them 3 to 1 and have air superiority because they know no one wants to die for their shithole.
>>223370073>mperialist aggressionSays the country who we are a colony ofEuros have no self awareness. The only reason America exists and most of the conflicts in the world happen is because of some imperialist shit they startedBut they think now that they fumbled the bag and are weak cocksleeves for greater powers they think they can cry out in pain at the evil imperialist US. Were the most benevolent hegemon the world has ever seen. The proof of this is you not being forced to suck American cock (you do it willingly)
>>223370475>arabs and other muslims passionatelly bringing up pedosyou guys really have no retrospection ability, eh?
>>223370571You're all pedophiles in comparison to me ( I'm Tunisian in case any retard happens upon this comment).
>>223370345Yes but my point is that the surrender followed a defeat. It's not like the French suddenly decided they didn't feel like fighting anymore and gave up. The Germans had taken over half of the country by this point and most of the troops had been captured or died.I don't see how this situation could lead to thinking it was cowardice. And I feel like the stereotype is far too strong to come from a situation that isn't so clearly cowardly. I begin to doubt the stereotype even comes from WW2 but was instead used as a historical proof for a cowardice people would attribute later to the French for some other reason. I wonder if it doesn't come from the Americans in 2003 but I've heard from a Brit that Brits already called us cowards in the 50s (thought idk if it's true) so I'm not quite sure.
The American Sunday morning cartoon perception of Europe must be destroyedLower IQ than yellow journal propaganda comics
>>223370615هل الناس بتتجنب القانون ده بزواج عرفي زي في مصر وغيرها؟ هل الشرطة تعاقب على مخالفة قوانينكم على أرض الواقع ولا القانون على الورق بس؟
The modern day Amerimutt waits peacefully on a hijacked plane while its being flown into buildings. They will see someone brutally murdered on the subway and won't do shit to help.
>>223370031Never heard that before. That whole Bush era surrender monkey thing is extremely boomercringe and gay desu.>>223370073>first then iraq france
just annoys me that we get shade when there's no stereotype of "cowardly/surrendering french" here, it's purely an american innovation
>>223371994huh really?
>>223372118i've never once seen a piece of british anti-french propaganda that had anything like that, definitely not during the second world war when it would've been very hypocritical and we wanted to legitimise the exile governmentbritain is a francophilic place, i don't think we have any negative stereotypes about france, perhaps snooty/pretentious/eccentric but even then it's not really negativetoday there are no doubt a lot of mongs who parrot this shite, especially the red tops and british tabloids, but they've been completely americanised.
>>223370176You surrendered after only 6 weeks despite having a bigger military than us, that is kinda pathetic 2bqh
>>223372294>i don't think we have any negative stereotypes about france,kek come on now
>>223370568Nigga u are the colonists that killed the natives, we were just bing chilling here
>>223372379Again, isn't it such a weird way of seeing it? "You surrendered after only 6 weeks", but we lost after only 6 weeks. We didn't surrender impromptu, we surrendered because we lost. You place the surrender in a void, I don't understand why you do that. This is why this stereotype feels circular, you justify the stereotype by using it itself. It makes no sense to look at the defeat and think there's cowardice in losing. Do you get my point?
>>223372511It's hard to imagine a modern great power first world country completely losing in such a short timeframe, it implies the soldiers themselves were cowardly too and didn't fight hard, especially in the contrast against ww1 that lasted 4 years.
>>223372379>surrenderedNo, you beat them in 6 weeks because of the rapid , meth fueled push you guys did through the Ardennes and overwhelming air superioity. It was very impressive.
>>223372669There's no comparison between WWI, WWII, and modern warfare. They exist in different paradigms. If you did it over today you'd spam drones at each other in the area around Poopyb(o)urg (prewar pop. 14) for the next decade.
>>223372294>britain is a francophilic placeI honestly know more Brits who are bigger fans of Portugal and Spain than France desu
>>223372669>it implies the soldiers themselves were cowardly too and didn't fight hardYet it doesn't fit at all the reality on the field, where morale was high even in the end. The longest period of the battle of France was after the German sickle cut when the French had no armored divisions and no supply lines. Fighting hard doesn't mean you will win, the German had superior tactics, intel and communications.
>>223370571why do westerners always bring up muhammad pumping aisha but not his first wife khadija he was 24 she was 40 pure monogamy 25 years 6 children she died at 60 and for 13 years after her death muhammad was putting belt to ASS on any of his wives who talked down on khadija I mean he had a clean record for like 50 years pumped one 12 year old and now he's epstein like damn cut him some slack
>>223370176It's anglo propaganda. Like how they managed to convince everyone Napoleon was some kind of midget even though he was average height.
>>223370571No they dont , how westernized muslims complain about Epstein while worshipping Mohammed i will never understand besides the IQ gap
>>223370031Anyone else thought it’s the pope from the thumbnail?
>>223373173What are you even trying to say
>>223373355For a long time I was trying to find a French equivalent to this and here you gohttps://youtu.be/LYUzklRmSjI?is=cOx69gz6QDSxTEWL
>>223373494Pretty sure that Muhammed married aisha and didn't prostitute her around for monetary gain.Not even a muzzle but American logic is absurdly hilarious.
>>223373995Shias claim she was a prostitute o algoAlso westernized muslims don't follow the hadith so they have no reason to believe he married her at 9. Burgers are dumb regardless
>>223373995>child rape is better if its through marriage than prostitution >take thay Americans Euros truly deserve everything that happens to them lmao
>>223370176There was the fatigue post-WW1 and sabotage to fuel the stereotype as well.
>>223374025>they have no reason to believe he married her at 9 if they dont follow the hadithThats not how the historical method works lmao
>>223374049We'll be fine. Good luck defending epstein and stuff you weird fuck
We use to say that the french smell like shit and dont wash
>>223374097Hadiths were allegedly written 200 years after Mohammed died and collected centuries after. Religion is like clay, people make of it what suits them regardless.
>>223374097>burger>lecturing people on lack of historical senseDon't you have to invest your 401k inAI that will replace you as well as heckin reusable rockets? That is it you have left over at the end of the month of course. And I shouldn't make such assumptions your car loan is important
>>223374146Its still the only evidence to go off of either way my guy, according to the hadiths Aisha was 9 and child marriage was largely accepted in Islam at least by modern definitions
>>223374282You're obsessed apparently with that topic. Seek help
The nafri with the Dutch flag needs to get retroactively aborted
>>223374102>defending epsteinYeah ive definitely been doing that, I love the mossad >>223374152>seething eurofag gets his political beliefs off of Twitter and probably lives in near constant asshurt about Elon Musk and Donald TrumpChecks out
>>223374346Oh right I forgot about that guy
>>223374366I don't have twitter even but nice projection. You're saying Americans are not investing in these said people en masse through retirement or otherwise while a car loan is also common? Cmon buddy. You remind me of that Russian foid I spoke to who got assblasted when I asked about the fuel shortage. Claiming its a western lie and everything is fine. Beautiful cope
>>223370176you are right about the 6 weeksits angloid propaganda to make themselfs look better>look, the germans defeated the french quickly, haha they surrendered>but we, the brave anglos, fled the continent (under the cover of french troopers, but we dont say that) then came back and defeated this superstrong supereffective warmachine, that was occupied on the eastern front but we also dont say thathaha french surrenders haha anglo powerbasicly thats it
>>223374408>You're saying Americans are not investing in these...No. Lots of projection today. Frankly I think the AI stuff is extremely overblown luddite tier rhetoric and theres nothing wrong with SpaceX. Neither of these things are as important to our economy as you think they are. >are car loans commonYes? If you want to complain about american spending habits then yes a lot of us are bad with money but car loans arent inherently bad unless youre an idiot with money especially if youre just going for older models
>>223374518>fled the continent (under the cover of french troopers, but we dont say that)kek they really do avoid it the best they canthey call it the miracle of dunkirk, as if they magically found their way out.
why does a french tank need a side window? so they can see the battlefield.
>>223370031
Who cares, french retards who get offended by this are mostly boomers, you have to be coping if you think France fought well in WW2, the resistance was a complete meme as well unlike in Poland.Now claiming that France has ALWAYS sucked at war is ridiculous, but it's true that since WW1 we have sucked. Even in the Algerian war, people cope by saying that we won militarily and only had to withdraw because leftist traitors were causing too much trouble, but that's weakness too, the army could have simply killed the leftists.
>>223379711*Loses to goat herders*
>>223379991he destroyed the Iraqi military in 43 days
>>223370176It's because you refused to join Iraq in 2003. Idk if you noticed, but soft power is controlled by Mutts. This is how Ukraine became the defender of democracy over night.
>>223380069*Iranians destroy all their military basses in the region in 42 days*
>>223380162brown cope is delicious
>>223380184It's been 3 months and you still haven't opened the Hormussy. What's keeping you, Ô great superpower and world hegemon?
>>223380069Still lost
>>223380162>>223380269This fiasco is mostly due to Trump being a gigantic jew-owned retard rather than military incompetence, the US would have the manpower necessary to send troops into Iranian underground bases.But of course that would result in a lot of casualties, can't do that when le heckin democratic electionrinos are approaching.
>>223370031France hasn't been a threat to anybody but defenseless randos in Africa and Asia since 1814. Nobody cares that you had the capacity to invade China's parasitic vassal state when China was collapsing from British meddling (only to get your ass kicked and brutally humiliated by peasants in 60 years)
>>223380396At least we did use to win wars in the distant past, what war has America won?
>>223380503American War of IndependenceWar of 1812Indian WarsMexican-American WarAmerican Civil War2nd French intervention in MexicoSpanish-American WarWorld War IWorld War IIVietnam WarPersian Gulf War/Desert StormIraq WarAfghanistan War (although we ended up withdrawing from our occupation to give the Afghans a chance at responsible self government which they failed within a week)
>>223380862holy cope
>>223370345"the allies" were just the Uk and they were useless as well in the first phase of the war
>>223380862>long list of irrelevant police operationsWow, how glorious to defeat the great state of Mexico.>American Civil WarSo you defeated yourself?>WW1Entered the war at the last minute and did nothing award.>WW2Did nothing in Europe (USSR did all the work), and just barely won against Japan, mostly thanks to hardcore Japanese incompetence.>VietnamLost.>Gulf War>Wowie zowie, onmy the American colossus could have defeated fucking Iraq lol.>Iraq WarUltimately lost, as you just turned the area into a breeding ground for islamists.>AfghaLost.
>we wonNo you didn't >but k/dlol
you know we have /pol/ for this shit right
>>223381039>Entered the war at the last minute and did nothing award.The Meusse Argone Offensive wasn't nothing lmao, we ended a the war with over 1 million men finally breaking the stalemate of the 1st World World>Did nothing in Europe (USSR did all the work)No, we liberated Italy and France and forced the Germans to reorganize their forces away from the Eastern Front while we gave the Soviet Union vital resources giving so that their counteroffensive wouldn't stall not to mention what we did in Northern Africa which yes had implications in Europe. >mostly won against the Japanese Only in the Pacific, the Chinese absorbed the vast majority of their forces>LostCorrect. South Vietnam was far flimsier than South Korea >downplaying IraqThey had the 8th largest military in the world at the time. We did not lose it lmao Also keep in mind we were succesful in overthrowing Assad and Gaddafi and just kidnapped Maduro in a single night. And btw we did Libya because YOU GUYS demanded it. The cope here is just delicious.
>>223381039Also the Japanese were far from incompetent
>>223381205>we wonYes>but muh k/dYes anytime we directly engaged with thr enemy the k/d was lumped in our favor more than with our allies in the region when they faced the same enemy
>jannies still haven't moved this shit to /pol/Fuck off, retarded migger.
>>223380144>It's because you refused to join Iraq in 2003.thisthe "cheese eating surrender monkey" didnt come about until the early to mid 2000swhile the surrender and collaboration were a bad look, the french went real hard in korea and vietnam to try and make up for it right after.
>>223381389Are you currently armycuck or do you shill for the epsteinites who killed and mutilated your people for free? Normal people don't shill for their military, and theirs haven't fucked them over nearly like yours haveI wish the US bureaucracy wasn't cowardly enough to abolish the draft, maybe then your people would have the balls to fight back.
>>223381205>>223381554bro please stop engaging the /pol/ tourists
>>223381355>Also the Japanese were far from incompetentThe soldiers maybe. The leadership was fucking braindead.Also:>downplaying Iraq>They had the 8th largest military in the world at the timeThey literally always fled. Arabs have sucked at war since the end of the middle ages, it's not exactly an achievement to defeat Iras lmfao.As for the WW, you are coping hard if you think WW1 would have gone any different without you, and as for Lend-lease it was largely irrelevant, Soviet troops thought American tanks and planes sucked ass, only the raw steel and the trucks were useful.
>>223381668>They literally always fledI salute them for choosing their families over Saddam, unlike americucks who later died at the hands of the same people for chevron lol
>>223381554>military fagNah, 98% of what our current military does is fuck all and in 2016 when I was 18 all we were doing was dicking around in Afghanistan and the only parts of the military that did anything were spec ops so I became a firefighter instead. If we ever had a more major war where i wouldn't just be sitting on base doing fuck all then yeah id probably join. Also we've been an imperialist nation since Thomas Jefferson went to war against the Barbary Pirates and won (also got Morocco as our oldest ally, the western sahara is clearly their clay) and im proud of our military, yes. The Europeans might've given up but we havent >or do you shill for the epsteinites who killed and mutilated your people for free? Not really a fan of either the mossad and zionist jews or you islamists whatsoever , that said you've been a threat to our oil ventures and sphere of influence in the Middle East allying with thr Russians and funding proxies against our allies in the GCC so nah go fuck yourself. Does it suck we need to deal with jewish infiltration and shenanigans? Yes. Does this mean that because Islam is the enemy of jews that its my friend? Fuck no. Europe should've taken the hint from Poland and thats on them >Normal people don't shill for their militaryAll the relevant countries do>wish the US bureaucracy wasn't cowardly enough to abolish the draft, maybe then your people would have the balls to fight back.Of course you would like civil war and chaos in my country
>>223381794tldr >Of course you would like civil war and chaos in my countryWhy do you fear well trained and armed population? Isn't that what le founding daddies wanted?
>>223381668>The leadership was fucking braindead.Depends on the leadership, they were not universally incompetent either the Japanese were just out classed by us generally speaking. >Arabs have sucked at war since the end of the middle ages, it's not exactly an achievement to defeat Iras lmfao.Defeating the 8th largest military in the world over a course of.a few months was a big deal lol. The Arabs did suck but to downplay their threat is ridiculous. They didnt even last 2 months >you are coping hard if you think WW1 would have gone any different without youThe Germans successfully took out the Russians after fomenting the the Russian Revolution in 1917 and yes had we not been present for the German Spring Offensive the war wouldve been far from over. >Lend-lease it was largely irrelevant,Khruschev in his own personal memoirs admitted that without it the Soviet counter offensive wouldve heavily stalled especially after the Battle of Moscow. We also diverted forces away from the Eastern Front ao instead of it being 80% of german forces in the East it became about 50%. Yes we mattered in WW2 lmao.>Soviet troops thought American tanks and planes sucked assBecause Sherman's were made for mass replacement and the aircraft we gave them were our secondaries , we reserved the B17's and Mustangs for ourselves and most of our relevant supplies we gave to the Russians were more around logistics and infrastructure
>>223381944>say I hate the Israelis>most raped kike slave because I would like to preserve the empire despite them Topkek. We were an empire before the zionists and id like to remain one after the zionists. >Why do you fear well trained and armed populationI dont, I am one of them I just dont care what some 3rd worldist has to say about wanting me and my countrymen to kill each other for some larp fantasy of his since he clearly hates us. Typical of your kind to be frank
>>223370176its just a stupid meme. I blame the simpsons. that show peddled a lot of stereotypes
Iran is too pussy to engage those bases in Cyprus and Romania, and if they don't this is gonna be a 20 year war>ARTICLE FIVE!!!Button that does nothing
>>223382086I'm not a third worldist, I'm a third worlder if that's what you mean and I don't have a geopolitical sports team.>wanting me and my countrymen to kill each otherI never said any of that. You reached that conclusion on your own knowing what having the draft means and why it was ultimately abolished, and it's very telling that you're aware of this reality that's irreconcilable with your homogeneous empire larp, you die for chevron, chevron's beneficiaries aren't dying for you. Your people are aware of that to the extent that your leaders currently lack the political power to invade even a tiny Iranian island.
>>223381039Wow the surrender monkey says we lostShiver me timbers
>>223382086>wanting me and my countrymen to kill each otherChicanery is the other guys' thing, arabs are very stupid and very honest but yes we would laugh if you killed eachother.
>>223382445>You reached that conclusion on your own knowing what having the draft means and why it was ultimately abolishedNot really. We still have a huge military and police force and a massive gun culture we just dont want to kill each other. Except for some of the communists but of course they do theyre communists.>homogeneous empire larpWe're a multicultural empire my guy and I never denied it. Unfortunately we have a lot of shitlibs and communists who thinks that means we are compatible with all other cultures but whatever. Let them import their slave classes while jerking off about how progressive they are I guess. > die for chevron, chevron's beneficiaries aren't dying for you. The oligarchy that underlies our republic , as any at scale democracy or republic, is not universally controlled by old anglo oil tycoons who hate Americans no matter how many times thr subversives have told you otherwise. >Your people are aware of that to the extent that your leaders currently lack the political power to invade even a tiny Iranian IslandWe've been taking the Iranian containment strat very slowly over the last few decades while building our own sphere of influence in the region. Were it not for the Israelis being retarded there would be a lot more public support for it , most of the liberals didnt give a shit when Obama did the stuxnet campaign against Iran even when they found out Israel was involved but since they decided to go scorched Earth in Gaza they've kind of fucked us. Again. Believe me if you want someone to shit talk Israelis with i can go all day
>>223382593>ChicaneryI AM NOT CRAZY!I am not crazy! I know he swapped those numbers! I knew it was twelve-sixteen. One after Magna Carte, as if I could ever make such a mistake. Never! Never! I just-- I just couldn't prove it! He-He-He covered his tracks, he got that idiot at the copy shop to lie for him...!You think this is something--? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He's done worse! That billboard! Are you telling me that a man just happens to fall like that? No, he orchestrated it! Jimmy! He defecated through a sunroof! And I saved him! And I shouldn't have, I took him into my own firm! What was I thinking?! He'll never change. He'll never change! Ever since he was nine, always the same. Couldn't keep his hands out of the cash drawer. "But not our Jimmy, couldn't be precious Jimmy!" Stealing them blind! And he gets to be a lawyer?! What a sick joke! I should have stopped him when I had the chance!And you, you have to stop him! You...
>>223382756at least 6 billion idol worshipper that according to the strict law of the torah do not deserve to live
>>223382693>yeah people will be killing each others but I label those people cringe and not real americans o algoOkay bro
>>223382938Id rather not kill the commies and still see them as americans desu, they just dont feel the same way about guys like me
>>223381304>They had the 8th largest military in the world at the time. We did not lose it lmaohumans found to be number 1 smartest species on planet earth.runner-up: orangutans
>>223381767Sure. Dying for your (((elites))) is fucking gay anyway, you should only ever fight for your family and debatably for your race.
>>223382024>The Germans successfully took out the Russians after fomenting the the Russian Revolution in 1917Ah yes, the (((Germans))).
fugg just imagine if shias reinforced the sunni triangleabsolute MASSACRE, nam wouldn't have shit on it(muricans wouldve also ragequit and nuked so on second hand kinda glad they didnt)
>>223383666demonic trips confirmbaghdad killed in sunni areas 1482 killed in shia areas 92anbar sunni areas 1350saladdin sunni areas 416ninevah/mosul sunni areas 295 so on
>>223383551>the (((Germans))).The Germans fomented the Bolshevik uprising by releasing Lenin back to Russia the same way Bismark intentionally stoked the Paris Commune after thr Franco Prussian war to further cripple the French. Germans just thought the commies wouldn't possibly win.
