>>223390555
>cleverarus

>>223390555
My math proffesor traded his math magazines for good grades, you buy one of his magazine 1+ point he gave you for the next test

>>223390555
Makes me cringe whenever i see balkanitex talking down to black Americans. Intellectually you're the same

>>223390555
all meds are lower IQ, spain, italy, greece, portugal, egypt, lebanon, Israel, turkiye etc...

>>223390555
IQ is a meme stat

>>223391468
Who created northern Europe?

the image is an IQ test
you have failed it if you believe there's IQ testing here

>>223394237
POC slave work + colonial exploitation

>>223394237
the absence of ancient rome influence (anti European ""civilization"")

>>223390555
/pol/ is wrong, it comes down to nutrition and culture
being lazy and retarded is no big deal in countries with good weather so there's less of a cultural push against it
it doesn't matter anymore but it mattered in the past when northern europeans had like 2 weeks for harvesting
still, northern europeans were lower iq than southern europeans due to shite nutrition (which is why their typical cuisine is garbage, they had to eat anything that sated them) until the cheat code that is the potato arrived to europe from south america

>>223394368
The absence of ancient Rome influence created Northern Europe? What a stupid low IQ thing to say. Those who shout the loudest about IQ are almost almost the ones with the lowest IQ, and often inferiority complex.

>>223394492
ancient rome is the islam of europe
destroys everything it touches

>>223390555
they were right
IQ is heavily influenced by genetics

I don't believe these maps desu. Why would albanians have significally lower IQ are they that much of a isolated ethnic group from their neighbors.

>>223394657
they're by far the most incarcerated group in the UK, albanian crime and genetic IQ match

>>223394452
sounds like cope

>>223390555
Arab admixture

Compound societal development points. Everything from educational standards to the quality of school lunches to the sense of economic safety and stress in the home plays a huge part in a childs development. As such the turbulence caused by wars or massive economic crisis’s has generational effects. Twin studies has confirmed this on multiple occasions

Culture has some impact. Mom and dad never bring science magazines to the living room table.

>>223390555
It's almost impossible to answer this honestly. It's not just one thing.
It's a lot of factors synergising and adding onto each other and you can hardly say to which extent they play a role and to which they don't.
It's like someone asking why the western Roman empire fell and someone saying a single reason like Christianity.
Sure, it is a reason, but there are a hundred other reasons.

Either way, it's a never-ending debate and race does play into it but then that goes from a historical debate into a geneticist debate and please tell me about people who are simultaneously expert on politics, experts on human behaviour, experts on genetics, experts on human brain and neuroscience, experts on nutrition and experts on religion.

Nobody can answer you honestly.

>Turkish blood
Is simply false though. At this point I can either assume you've never opened a book or an article on Balkan genetics or just want to bait.
I do believe that the Balkans are not at their racial IQ cap and a better situation could heighten the quality of the individual, but this is circular because one could say if there was a higher IQ baseline, then the people would create better circumstances for themselves.
I was also wondering about a lot of things and why they are the way they are.

So I've researched ancient Rome and still do, from 753BC to 476AD, now I am researching Byzantium, then I will research Serbia and the western Europe from 476AD up to the end of the medieval period, then I might think of formulating some attempt to answer this.
I'll also read Spengler and Machiavelli who wrote on matters related to this.
Since people here don't read and only scroll TikTok, don't expect normal answers.

>>223390555
>Croatians are the high IQ chads of the balkans
Based based based

>>223398105
It is cope. We know for a fact that intelligence is a heritable it just bothers leftists whenever there are any proven genetic or statistical differences between people that cant be explained by environmental determinism since theyre retarded egalitarian cultists

>>223401539
And when you see the inventors of these high IQ eastern and west Slav countries they're almost all kikes.
So tell me how did Serbia, a low IQ nation, spawned Tesla, Pupin and Kostovic? And that's after all the negative effect of Ottoman administration and reduction of life for centuries.
It's literally statistically impossible for a small country to have men like this.
Yet, for a random example, Poland, has near zero scientific contributions despite bordering the west, not being subject to Turks and being one of the most numerous Slavic countries yet per you and the map they're somehow superhuman compared to the "Turkish mixed south Slavs".

>>223401718
>tesla
spawned by the austro-hungarian education system
>pupin, kostovic
nobody knows who these balkan wizards are

>inb4 whatever
I won't read it

>>223390555
I pass my days here, I'm definitely very low IQ

>>223401834
>spawned by the austro-hungarian education system
But I thought we are racial garbage that cannot be elevated by circumstances?
I'll not disagree with the line, though, it is obvious that an Austrian system schooled people better than a nonexistent Ottoman school system, well played.

>>223401834
>spawned by the austro-hungarian education system
Wow, now we can claim anyone born in the Russian Empire and Soviet times.

>>223401718
>Poland, has near zero scientific contributions despite bordering the west,
They created the first oil refinery, the Curie family is from Poland, and Coppernicus is polish as well. I think youre underestimating the Poles a bit my dude

>>223402067
Compared to their historical circumstances and the population numbers, am I?
Mind you, the premise of this thread is that we are racial garbage. So, that's why there's an antagonistic stance towards people that are supposed to be my "superiors" who have written nothing internationally valued and their best cultural output are videogames.
Yet I am supposed to kiss their boots and kneel before the IQ statistics.
I don't deny that current Serbia is a degenerate mafia shithole but the current west is an idiotic liberal mess that imports foreigners and lags behind some Asian countries (wages are not the only important thing, you know), and that doesn't seem very intelligent to me.
Where is the automatic, always active racial superiority that makes one think and act in good sense now? Could it be that the story is perhaps a little more nuanced?
I don't deny race, but I discuss civilisation on another level; civilisation belongs to a few while the masses are dragged along.
The western modern men, as many as I have met to and talked online and in person, have never impressed me. And considering the current circumstances of the West, I will hardly let myself be lectured.

>>223402228
>Mind you, the premise of this thread is that we are racial garbage
Your cunt having an average IQ of 90 doesn't really make you racial garbage my guy. You guys just have some Northern African admixture and whatever Berbers , Semites, and Egyptians that occurred over thousands of years like whatever. People accuse of you of being Turks which is hilarious because Turkish admixture is far less present than Northern African but whatever. IQ is very based around genetics but there are elements of environment that play pretty major roles as well.

>>223394368
>>223394527
Rare french W

>>223402467
We do have "north African" admixture, but this topic needs to be analysed.
This DNA arrived here with J haplogroup (most of the branches) in 7000BC, not with Roman slaves, Ottoman or Byzantine population resettlements. Scientists say it originated in East Africa, some told me it's Caucasian but it 's mostly "dude trust me they are lying" so I don't know what to make of it.
Hitler himself is part of this E1b V13 branch. Napoleon too.
I am part of that E1b V13 branch, since I descend from a tribe in Montenegro. V13 branch is completely different to M-something ones.
It peaks in Albania and parts of Montenegro,.very tribal areas, so I don't think that even if you disregard all the science about when some blood arrived that it arrived by any other means than before the Balkans, otherwise it's impossible to explain this. No large groups of people are sent to settle the mountains or willingly settle the mountains, E1b peaks there because Slavs came and probably eradicated a lot of it outside.
Phenotypes are complicated, multifactorial and not at all a derivative of your paternal haplo. South Slavs have a lot of non-Slavic mtDNA (like 2/3 compared to 1/2 or so paternal) because they took local women.
>IQ is very based around genetics but there are elements of environment that play pretty major roles as well.
It is.

I mean, if these E1b and J branches are keeping the Balkans from higher reaches, then I surrender my case, but I dunno, don't know how to think about it. There was never some great, massive replacement of population by near-eastern slaves.

>>223390555
>Why are south-eastern Europeans a lot lower IQ than their north/western counterparts?
They make the dough while the South Slav chads satisfy their women, a fair trade

>>223400909
It's multiple reason all working together to keep a child in our cunts stupid.
The biggest one however I'd say is gypsy admixture. That alone drops the iq score by at least 10 points.
Western nations will become just as stupid though in a century or two. They have active mixing programs and there's no social shame in mixing and destroying your european genes.

>>223403109
There's very little gypsy admixture, there's however gypsies being rapebabies of locals like American niggers having a lot of white DNA.

>>223401718
It's also impossible for a country to have an average IQ of 90 and have functional infrastructure in every village and gown. I live in a very small place and have fiber internet, properly treated main water, and the electricity rarely goes out.

>>223403676
Yeah and then Belgrade is a sewer dump.
The current reality is that Serbia is a shithole which makes it hard to lead these arguments.
A country is in a bad place = anything one writes reads like a cope.
It is a shithole in many ways, but it is also impossible that it had the history and the men it had if it was capped to that status.
Whether it will bounce back or not is an open question as civilisation lies in the hands of a few individuals and is not up to who digs the fields.
Right now, the few individuals are Bosnian ex-communist cavemen.

>>223403788
>The current reality is that Serbia
I'm not going to pretend everything is beautiful, clean, well maintained, and not corrupt. But I'd rather take my chances here. It's okay if people think everyone here is a barely functioning retard (90IQ). Keeps the browns and western yurop tourists away. Things will probably sort themselves in a decade or so if there's no more bombing or war

>>223390555
Socioeconomic factors, let's make a comparison:
Yugoslavia/Socialism: World's 24th economy, ahead of Austria, Indonesia, South Africa, Argentina, Greece, Romania, Iran, Norway, Denmark, Finland, Thailand, and Saudi Arabia
Post-Yugoslav states/Capitalism: Nigger-tier shitholes

>>223394452
Are the French too dumb to eat potatoes?

>>223403920
I want us to be the top dogs, have 100 million people, everyone being raised on something like Mos Maiorum, accept Augustian reforms on sex and purity, have 50000 nuclear missiles, 10k tanks, 20k planes, a pretty sizeable territory, concrete Aurelian-style walls and limited entry points, with focus on developing spaceships, competing in sports and virtue and colonising space. Instead of run down commie blocks, we adopt Hellenistic architecture, in regards to religion, we create some cool new Indo-European one instead of following rabbi on a stick.
So I am more critical of the current Serbia than others I guess.

>>223402783
"New french"

>>223404348
When we've reached 103.7? Btw this website is fucked or algo. I tried a test there once and got around 140 or something, which is untrue.

>>223404022
I mean they proclaimed several new world vegetables and fruits as "poison" even when they weren't so yes