Do Anglos really think ancient Greeks and Romans were nordic?
>>223399131same question for Scandinavians and Germans for that matter
>>223399131they let white Etruscan men breed with their women to bleach their bloodline.
>>223399131Yes, they really do. They even cope that statue of Julio Caesar he has blonde hair, even tho the statue clearly dpectis him wirh wavy hair, which indicates it was brown hair.White germanic people were slaves and gladiators in Roman Empire.Oh and there were many random Syrians living in german cities such as Trier
>>223399265Your ''white'' Etruscans, sirI'm so tired of retarded american colorism, imagine cramming thousands of different ethnicities into like 3-4 color categories like white, brown, black, yellow. Pants on head retarded
>>223399131Augustue >> blondeSulla >>> ginger/blondeAlexander >> blondeWho do browns have to claim?
>>223399501"White" is an American colonial term that has absolutely nothing to do with anyone outside of the United States. I don't know why you guys use it, it doesn't even make sense outside of America.
seems more like an american fixation to me.
>>223399555>Dubs dubs dubs tripsHoly TRVTH
>>223399555lmao
>>223399131People are retarded and think anyone who has blonde/red hair, blue/green eyes has some Nordic or Germanic ancestry, when those traits didn't even originate in northern or central Europe.Those are just mutations and can happen literally anywhere, they only became common in those places due to climate and scarce population when the Yamnaya people arrived in Europe, who carried those mutations, so they became the norm.Asia always had much bigger populations, that along with a climate that favors swarthier people, made those kind of mutations more rare, and the people who carried those mutations not as successful genetically. They only thrived because of sexual selection, a rare phenotype still is glazed upon despite not being the best for survival.
>>223399131Yeah, obviously, there's a lot of evidence for this. It's a shame that meds got mutted during the muslim invasions
>>223399131Some part were, at least at the fall of the westAt the time half of whole military was just germans led by germans scheming with other germans to control the emperor
>>223399501that's what white men look like when they work half naked underneath the Mediterranean sun.
>>223399741Muslim invasions in Italy?
>>223399881Even if I am hue, can I have the word, whatafuck is even an italian diferent on average from a brown haired anglo....?!
No but they are my intellectual ancestors and I carry their legacy :)
>>223399929>saaar this not existOK, Henry Calvill
>>223400001And unironically some americans will say:>sooo must being roman invaders o algoNot, despiste celts was majority ginger or blonde, of course existed tribal pagan celts with dark hair or eyes in minor proportions. Celts had absorved iberian small elements since 3000 years ago
>>223399555I prefer the term "caucasian".
>>223399131If you look it up most gene nerds think they are probably about the same as today give or take. It's meds that get mad about this if you've ever been on x thoughbeit
europoops and mutts are pathetic
>>223400358when are you lazy cunts gonna finish your 2,000 year siesta and save the fucking West?
>>223399131they actually domy dad looks like one of them (blond, blue-eyed, pink) and he thinks so as welllet's just ignore he has permanent scarring on his back from sunburns he got half a century ago in the very land that he thinks was home to people like him thousands of years ago
>>223399131The type of people who beleive this aren't worth wasting your time thinking about. It's only people terminally online racist conspiracy theorists, they're literally just white hoteps.They claim every great ancient civilization across Europe and even western Asia (and Africa, picrel) were built by blonde haired, blue eyed white people. Even Indians have adopted this conspiracy and insist the ancient Indus civilizations were nordic until the evil Muslim invaders turned them brown.These are the same people who believe white people somehow magically popped into existence without ever immigrating out of Africa because they lack the basic understanding of how evolution works.
>>223399131Most Nordicist conspiracy nuts aren’t Anglo
>>223399131>Do Anglos really think ancient Greeks and Romans were nordic?A minority of autists do because there were some fairer skinned and lighter haired emperors and for some reason a lot of people think all meds have to be olive skinned with dark hair.
>>223399555checked
>>223399131Nordic and highly Proto-Indo-European are two different things. I think that at some point, the early Mycenaean Greeks did indeed have a high Yamnaya admixture. But were they like modern Scandinavians?!Obviously not.
>>223399501The pigments used to paint those frescos darken overtime, they have done dna studies on etruscans, we know what they looked like, they were definitely White
>>223401658>popped into existence without ever immigrating out of AfricaActually the original Out of Africa theory has recently been called more into question due to recent finds that implies humanity didnt originated from just one area in Africa but migrated in many places since we've found older fossils in Turkey recently which implies a movement from Europe to Africa and then eventually back again instead of us evolving in isolation in Africa. The timeline continues to expand
>>223401868Anon they have darkish curly hair and olive skin to fair skin just like a lot of modern Italians
>>223401868Is so much bullshit thing about antropology in one only thread, that I can't even explain. Portugueses share the same format of skull of any Haaland of Malmo, the same nouse, I did some test in my face, and Gemini said that from my pardo face, the european part mostly belonged to Cromagnoids uga buga pre europeans, pre any shit, even aryan mixing, more pure impossible
>>223401984Yeah etruscans mostly just looked like modern day central italians, so white.
>>223402009Say the same people that look at a chuvash turk, that have shamanism tribal asian, and say wow, they are totally my scandinavian brothers
>>223402099No I mean in the genetic research and the artwork they have dark curly hair and olive skin. They really havent changed much
>>223402099>just looked like modern day central italians, so white.
>>223402189>well, some chuvashes are asian lookingMy brother people, Guten dag. You can't get colorists serioully
>>223402261holy cutie, Russians cannot scientifically suffer
>>223401936I'm pretty sure I've come across people who really love to push the out-of-africa theory for ideological reasons, to stick it to the whitie
>>223402261My hapa queen...
>>223402484Afrocentrists and weird xenophile white leftists do like to push outdated science for ideology, this is true.
I dont really think about meds at all, they are basically africans
>>223402515same with other way round with anti-black racists. I don't care either waythe most bizarre example of this is indian nationalists being Proto-Indo-European deniers because Sanskrit is the oldest language or whatever
The fact that there were indeed blond or blondish emperors such as augustus, nero and comodus and that modern medjeets almost never have any white traits suggests that they used to be whiterAnd no some cherry picked people of clear and recent nnorthern admixture does not count. The avrage southron is brown skinned, black haired and brown eyed and looks like and arab or jeetBtw the commoners have obvioulsy always been a bunch of shitskins but its the elites that nordicists talk about
>>223399131Helen of Troy was described as having blonde/golden (xanthos) hair by Homer so the most beautiful woman imaginable to a lowly Greek was a nordic goddess
>>223402576Nordicists and afrocentrist are my favorite autists>ayo we wuz everythang n sheet nigga>We were nephilim and stuff my fellow aryan brethren. Muh giants in Afghanistan, muh red haired mummies, agartha is real
>>223402604Cope, some famous romans were blond, but so are plenty italians today. There's no reason to think the entirety of the roman elite were blond haired blue eye nords lmao. Even the ones that were blond its not like they were nords, they were just blond italians. This whole med vs nord thing is just ridiculously cringe and retarded. Both have great accomplishments.
>>223402804Didnt say they all were just that they were significantly whiter than today. Besides rome was a crypto middle eastern empire so its nothing to be proid fo and im not trhing to claim it. There were plenty of arab looking emperors that the medjeets can be proud of
>>223402867>Besides rome was a crypto middle eastern empireRome at its highest land area owned under Trajan held onto significant territory in the wider middle east for only a handful of decades, Rome was mainly a European and Mediteraenean Empire. It was far more Celtic, Germanic and Balkan than it was Middle Eastern my guy. By a lot
>>223402867Also keep in mind at the time that Anatolia was mostly Greek
>>223402867Italians actually became slightly "whiter" (meaning a higher percentage of blue eyes and blond hair) in medieval and modern times. If you believe in the existence of White people it'd be ridiculous not to include Italians or "medjeets". They are undeniably White genetically, culturally and anthropologically.
>>223399131anglos think everyone here and in southern europe was blonde but our genetics got fully changed overnight
>>223403063Almost no one thinks this, some retards on 4chan and nordicists 300 years ago aren't representative.
>>223402975>>223402994Culturally and institutionally. The italian penninsula and greece and the mediteranian in general are far closer to the middle east geographicly, economicly, geneticly than north western europe. The otromans werent europen because they conquered a bunch of balkanoids and killed a bunch of austrians
>>223401658>>223401763There's an awful lot of them online though so it's hard to tell how common this belief is. Just look at this thread.
>>223402867Can "medjeets" claim Magnus Carlsen because he's swarthy and has brown eyes?
>>223403031Why is so hard to fuckers believe some slavic of Ukraine and a sicilian are related, in a small piece of land conected without a big sea, mountains or river separating it
I finally realize that Ben Franklin was pretty much right about his Whiteness map.
>>223399265>>223399881>The study concluded that the Etruscans were autochthonous and they had a genetic profile similar to that of their early Iron Age Latin neighbors.Etruscans were genetically quite similar to their Latin neighbors. The biggest cultural difference is that in Etruria the pre-indoeuropeann linguistical substrate persisted, unlike in Latium.This might be a case of severa amerimutt education and you might be confusing the Etrurians with the Cisalpine Gauls.
>>223403222Minas Gerais and São Paulo in Brasil have a bigger distance and more acidents geographics separating it than Ukraine to Sicily
>>223403309So much that venezian and ukranian both belong to the italo-slavic branch of PIEs language
>>223403142>The otromans werent europen because they conquered a bunch of balkanoids and killed a bunch of austriansAnd Italians aren't middle eastern because they conquered a bunch of semites and killed a bunch of Middle Easterners
>>223403384And of course, London is not named after a roman city called Londinium
>>223403165They can claim whoever they wont since im not an insecure wog that feels thretened by that sort of shenanigans. And im not trying to claim your precious romans, just stating that the elite was probably whiter than they are today, but southern europe and rome as a whole is and was an extention of the middle east so they have always been brown.
>>223403142Mediterranean Europe is more similar to north west Europe than the middle eastern medditeranean and has been for the large majority of its history. They are all Christian, they all speak indo-european languages, they all share close historical ties (Spain was populated by celts and the populations ancestral to Italians, like the bell beaker and urnfield cultures come from central Europe) and no, they are all closer to each other genetically than to middle easterners, there is a clear European genetically cluster. Spanish people like 4x closer to Russians genetically than to morrocans lol.Do you really think Italy and Italians have more in common with Lebanon and Egypt than with Germany?
>>223403142>The italian penninsula and greece and the mediteranian in general are far closer to the middle east geographicly, economicly, geneticly than north western europeYou are completely retarded if you actually think that Italians are genetically closer to Middle Easterners than to Northern Europeans. Look at any PCA.
>>223403411Exist roman archeducts in France
>>223403498And ahhh, some wall roman was found in Germany
The populations that "bridge the gap" between Europeans and MENAs are Cypriots and Jews. Greeks are further to the European side, Italians further still and Spanish even more so.
>>223403547Iberia btw have a strong celtic history and share maritimal comerce with England over milenia
>>223403250why is there a painting of CWC?
>>223402604>The fact that there were indeed blond or blondish emperors such as augustusLook up the pigmentation remains actually found in statues of Roman emperors.
>>223403626One of most famous luso brazilians of history: Roberto Leal
>>223399131They are thoughI’m nordic too
>>223403714Vghhh, Portuguese celtic aryan blood
>>223399131Do we think the truth is true? Yes.
>>223403776Many of you guys have iberian blood in exchange also, the famous dark irish
>>223403384>>223403443The elites of those cultures may have been related to more nordic peoples or whatever but the majority of the commoners (who later mixed with the elites) were indigenous sand monkeys and that is what 90% of medjeet ancestry comes from.
>>223403776Even exist trolls and duendes but lusitan ones, the trasgos
>>223403862Almost all med ancestry comes from Europe bro you're just retarded
>>223403916>lives right next to mena>lives in the same climate and enviorment>practices the same lifestyle and eats the same foodYet they are somehow closer to those who liver farther away, with a diffrent climate and diffrent lifestyle
>>223404086This is simple anon, just share some paper that shows genetic evidence for what you are saying.
>>223404086Mostly common Y DNA in Spain: R1b: 70% of pipulatiok
>>223399131>do browns brown brown brown, brown brown brown brown?great post
>>223404251Btw, Spain is somehow backward in comparation with other UE economies?! Humm, noSpain has a Human Development Index (HDI) score of 0.918, placing it in the very high human development tier. It ranks 28th globally in the United Nations Development Programme reports.Key HDI Indicators for SpainLife Expectancy: High average lifespan exceeding 83 years.Education: Strong expected and mean years of schooling.Income: High Gross National Income (GNI) per capita.Regional VariationsMadrid and Basque Country show the highest subnational HDI levels within the country.
>>223404158>>223404251If it looks, like an arab talks, like an arab and acts like an arab then its an arab
>>223402251He is half north african from his mother's side, unironically. Carlo Conti
>>223399131Anglos are just egocentric
>>223399265Nobody in scandivania thinks that, you'vr been on on int for too long if you think that's a thing that happens irl
>>223407742shit I replied to the wrong person, I meant >>223399158
>>223399131They really doThere was a theory that the Illiad was in the Baltic because apparently sometimes the weather is described as cold
>>223399371Suetonius describes Caesar's eyes as black
>>223401410They're part of the eastWest is your business
>>223401936Not really. The oldest fossils are still in Africa, but new evidence suggests only that they came in several different waves across time
>>223403165We should unironically start doing that, fight retardation with retardation
>>223408134Shakespear was zainichi terrone
>>223402712We don't know if xanthos really translates as blonde, or only blonde.It could be refering to lighter shades of brown as well.There's a ongoing debate that "colour"depictions in Homer usually depicts more texture than what we think of colour today..Wine coloured seas are the most classic example of that
>>223399131Greeks and Romans were white but not nordic, unless we count modern Greeks and Italians as nordic.
>>223402975Actually no. The middle eastern regions were usually more populated than most of the "white" regions of EuropeApart from italia
>>223408327North italians are nordic
