Their fall will be studied
>>223420571I tried.I tried by voting for Hilldawg
Us little guys have finally the means to fight those bullies.
>>223420612Why can't you defeat Iran?
>>223420571true
>>223420571>Their fall will be studiedCountry hasn't even cracked their hands out
>>223420612I rewatched that PBS interview with Steve Bannon recently about how “liberal elite democrats” want “managed decline” because that is the only thing they can supposedly do, while Trump was meant to reverse this. In reality, DJT has done nothing but hasten the decline since he’s been in office. I used to be on board with the populism stuff but now I see that it was always retarded and I apologize to libs. Managed decline would be preferable to what is going on now t b h desu
>>223420571wouldn't even be a footnote in history
Definitely https://youtu.be/tGJEN8b1YWs
>>223420746Why do /int/cels fall for 3rd worldist propaganda? On what planet are we losing the war in Iran? >take out entire navy>bomb all their shaheed drone facilities which also influences the war in Ukraine >assassinate their leader >this means the US is losing somehow o algo We've also taken out Maduro and taken over Venezuela's oil infrastructure who was a major part of Iran's sphere of influence and overthrew Assad. The only thing Iran has done is bombed the GCC countries with missiles, killed less than 10 of our soldiers, and mined the Straight of Hormuz.
>>223423606All you've managed to accomplish with your operation ebin fail is stalling the world trade with the retarded opening and closing of the strait over and over. Killing their leader has done absolutely nothing, they're still in control of the strait and will be until your fat orange retard concedes or invades Iran. Most retarded conflict in the 2020's. Atleast Putler gets something out of his shitty war in the end, you get nothing.
>>223423606yeah that last one is whyWe can’t restore freedom of navigation and the world is on the verge of an oil shortage. We’ve lost 16 of our own people. We are worse off than when we started.
>>223423606>On what planet are we losing the war in Iran? On the planet where america cant open the strait of hormuz destroy irans nuclear program or topple the government.Its not thirdie propaganda just reality that while america is doing damage to iran none of it is decicive nor will it be.
>>223423894>and the world is on the verge of an oil shortageLmao no its not, we got the UAE to break its OPEC mandated oil output limits recently fucking hell the propaganda is intense
>>223423819>they're still in control of the straitNo theyre not lmao, they are harassing people in thr Straight. They have no navy and have just been harassing and bombing everyone after executing a fuck ton of their citizens and have royally pissed off the GCC countries even more than before. Iran is at its weakest its ever been since 1979, the only proxies it has left are thr Houthis who keep saying theyre gonna pop off any day now but wont.
>>223423606Have you confiscated Iran's nuclear material? Has the regime changed? Is Hormuz open? Have you achieved any of your goals? What are your goals?Have you actually done anything except murder ~150 primary school girls?
>>223424054>iran none of it is decicive nor will it be.Anon we have severely reduced their sphere of influence and destroyed their infrastructure all they can do now is lash out and throw a fit by bombing oil tankers and various GCC countries. There was never going to be a quick and easy operation to topple them lmao it took like 10 years to overthrow assad
Uh oh, migger meltie!>>223420719Here's the updated version.
>>223424596>they are harassing people in thr StraightSo it's not completely safe to go there? You think people want to risk their lives, ship and cargo for a maybe?
>>2234246492 more shabbats and littles girls schools bombsband the strait of ormuz will re-open!Trust the plan!
>>223424649>Anon we have severely reduced their sphere of influenceLike what? They still allied with russia china hezbollah and houtis>destroyed their infrastructureNot decisively and nothing that has altered or will make them surrender.> all they can do now is lash out and throw a fit by bombing oil tankers and various GCC countries.Thats all they need to do to win just outlast the us until it runs out of money and missiles.>There was never going to be a quick and easy operationThis was never going to be an operation that the us could ever win.Without a ground campaign the us cannot topple the iranian government or force the reopening of the strait of hormuz.How are you actually falling for your governments propaganda? This war is already 5 months old and the strategic situation hasnt improved at all for america and 5 months from now the sitaution will be the exact same.
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>>223423819>>223424054>>223424637>>223425567how soon would you expect the us or any country in the world to accomplish its goals in this scenario before its considered a failure
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>>223424650Persian bvll... I can't stop kneeling in your gracious presence.
>>223420571bullshit. we forget things as soon as the happen.
>>223420571Israels hold over USA should be studied. It may be THE greatest coup in world history.
>>223424772>it's not completely safe to go thereNo but that doesnt mean Iran controls it. You think we're letting the Iranians ship their oil after we wiped out their navy lmao
>>223425808>how soonjust 2 more years I guess? Trust the plan
>>223424924>Like whatOverthrew Assad, got most of OPEC either taken out , controlled, our allied with us including Venezuela recently and like I mentioned before we got the UAE to break their OPEC oil shipping cap. Russians are tied up in Ukraine , China doesn't do jack shit, Hamas is barely relevant after getting ethnically cleansed, the PM of Lebanon just met with Trump the other day to sue for peace and Israel has bombarded the hell out of Hezbollah, and the Houthis are barely relevant anymore. Their sphere of influence has been dramatically reduced >Thats all they need to do to win just outlast the us until it runs out of money and missiles.Good luck considering most of the GCC countries are our allies already and we just took control of Venezuela's oil infrastructure while we are blockading Iran during a major economic crisis lmao. We're gonna collapse any day now, some Pakistani bot / ai farm on Twitter swears by it >This war is already 5 months old its already over How are you saying that unironically while claiming anyone else is a victim of propaganda lmao.
i don't get why europeans are bashing us for our military "loss" when they are also dependent on the strait for energyalso negotiating with iran isn't even a option as they're going all out total war whereas our citizens aren't even aware there's a conflict or where iran is on a map
>>223420571Why?People will just draw the wrong lessons like they do about the fall of every other power. If people ever drew the right lessons from studying the fall of powers, then powers wouldn't fall because they'd learn those lessons.
>>223424637>Have you confiscated Iran's nuclear materialWe've systematically destroyed their infrastructure to enrich it>Has the regime changed? Is Hormuz open? We assassinated their leader and Hormuz is under our blockade as well lmao. We are only attacking Iranian boats while the Iranians chimp out and attack everyone. >Have you achieved any of your goals? What are your goals?Yes. We wiped out their navy, destroyed their shaheed drone facilities which will also help out Ukraine, killed their leader, and have severely reduced Iran's sphere of influence in the Middle East while driving a wedge through OPEC>goals?Have you actually done anything except murder ~150 primary school girls?Wiped out their Navy, assassinated their leader, reduced their sphere of influence , blockade their ability to ship oil, and reduce their military industrial complex which is connected to the conflict in Ukraine. >150 school girls But the thousands of public executions done by the Iranian state for not being muslim enough was actually heckin based and refilled my clever white finnish friend , right?
>>223426289The Strait was open before Trump fucked it up, retard.They wouldn't be having an energy crisis if it wasn't for our own actions. Therefore their beef is with us and our failure is schadenfreude.>whereas our citizens aren't even aware there's a conflictRetard alert. Retard alert, class.Look at fucking gas prices. Everybody knows. This is the first time that more than half the population has opposed a major war at it's outset in over a century.
>>223426289>our citizens aren't even aware there's a conflict or where iran is on a mapPeak amurican mindset, the best part is that he says it in a non-ironic way.
>>223425998They just altered a version of the bible in their favors, constant blackmailing of westerns politicians and corruption (jewish speciality).Also constant black magic and sacrifices to dark entities that favorises them spiritually like childrens trafficking/murders (another jewish hobby).You gain trememdeous force in your favors in this world if you submit to satan and do horrible things to childrens in exchange for it and jews have no problems with that. They actually enjoy it
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