Do they consider themselves closer to their former american colonies or to other european countries? I see them exactly half way
Why would they consider themselves closer to Latinxs
>>223446179they created those countries from scracth and share culture, language and genetics?
>>223446153They feel close to Polish women who spread their legs before you as soon as you tell them you are Spanish
You'd be surprised how many retards say we are closer to the latinx third world rabble than to other euros like french and italians. And sadly, many of those are "rightwingers" believe it or not
>>223446153It depends on the group of EuropeansFor closeness, I'd say it goes like this>Portuguese/Italians -> French/Greek -> Latinx -> Catholic Eastern Euros -> Germoyim -> Other Eastern Euros
>>223446220Our right wingers somehow all agree our closest brother nation is Israel
>>223446332They're not wrong considering toothpastes are the most moneypinching avaricious group to existWhen even longnoses are shocked of tikkie culture, you have to consider what led you to the point of outjewing jews
>>2234461531 Southern French 2 Portuguese 3 Italians4 Criollos…………150 “Latinos”
>>223446153EuropeHispanchistas are retards who deserve euthanasia
>>223446153I feel closer to meds, I also feel close to Argies and Chileans but just because I have some friends
Senoooooooor somos Franceces
>>223446743Med means nothing. The Meds can be Arabs, Berbers, Egyptian Copts, Albanians, Jews, Croats, Turks… basically Tusken Raiders.Also Spain is not Med, Spain is Atl-Med
>>223446772That's not the point, it's that basically the Southern French are Iberians.
>>223446153depends on the countries in question but it's also VERY generationalold people feel closer to panchis than to euros no question about it, especially if they're cuban/venezuelan/etcthe generation that was raised in the EU before covid feels closer to europe overall due to tourists and the state sponsored reproduction program that is erasmuspost covid youngins once again feel closer to latinx because they don't leave their house and spend all day in voice chat with spanish speakers, and even when they do their social bubble is half latinx anywayall this leads to spain's politics being a little different from the rest of the EU, our right wingers are not anti immigrants, they're anti muslim specifically
>>223446817I'm Catalan, therefore I'm med, pero incluso los portugueses son med, hablo de med eur
>>223446858Y-you are j-just like me!!
>>223446901Te he dicho que no.
>>223446179The UK is definitely closer to its former anglo colonies than it is to some random like Austria
>>223446910Free Occitania from the francohomo
>>223446772Southern Gauls are definitely more similar to Northern Spanish than they are to the Frankish subhumans from north of the Loire
>>223446953Not a thing
>>223446817>Med means nothing. The Meds can be Arabs, Berbers, Egyptian Copts, Albanians, Jews, Croats, TurksOnly Croats amongst that list are Meds.Med implies European.>>223446886>our right wingers are not anti immigrants, they're anti muslim specificallyThat basically is being against the most violent migrants. If they can't find enough support to take out a migrant who riots and stabs people they won't get support to take out migrants who just want to deliver food and fully assimilate.
>>223446979>t. Ramirez-Laputamadre
>>223447045>t. Jean-Claude Tuputamadreux
>>223446204>they created those countriesModern LATAM republics have no political connection to the spanish vicekingdoms. > language and geneticsThey (we) also share language with equatorial guinea. Yet hispanchitstas never associate with equatorial guinea, that must be because language isnt that important of a factor As for genetics. That doesnt mean anything. We also share genetics with siberians yet nobody feels any connection to Siberia. Same applies to europeans i guess
>>223446951That’s true though, but that’s not the case for Spaniards & Latinxs
How do Germanic Spaniards who can trace back their heritage to visigoth nobility ruling over the celto-moorih masses feel about western-European germanics?
>>223447255Nothing remains of the Hispano-Gothic identity.
>>223447255If I have a child with your sister, could my son be considered Visigothic?
>>223447363Mejor buscate un trabajo Paco
>>223446220Because Europe ist just France and Italy rightYou might not like it but Spanish people are closer to a Mexican than to someone from Estonia
Imagine being handed several creaky wooden chairs and you can break them on the backs of people who use the word "Med" unironically.
>>2234494294cuck invention o algo
>>223446772Your worst politicians are ethnically spanish lmaoSorry for Mélenchon and Nuñez
>>223446153What about those with visigoth ancestry do they feel closer to us nords?
>>223446817>Med means nothingin a strict sense it means Iberian, Greek, Italiannothing more nothing less
>>223447044>That basically is being against the most violent migrants. If they can't find enough support to take out a migrant who riots and stabs people they won't get support to take out migrants who just want to deliver food and fully assimilate.Kek Whole Europe is so cucked,
>>223449389nope
>>223449670TSVTotal Spain Victory
>>223451082A man I know that's in his 70s told me once that after the civil war, there was a massive disproportion of men/women ratio.There was basically like 8 women for every man (according to him). That's how brutal and bloody the civil war was.I guess we now know where did all the men flee to.
>>223447363>>223449207
>I am closer to a Patagonian Mapuche that mumbles in Spanish than to Louis from Toulouse or Giuseppe from Rome o algo así>https://files.catbox.moe/ptxwhz.mp4
>>223452093correct, now go back to your colonials manuel
>>223452144Nah.
>>223446153Culturally Latrinx and I hate the French, the Germans, and the Brits
>>223452191>odio a los franceses porque lo dice Ibai o algo así
>>223446332>t. Nafriturkcel always cuckpostingAren't you always seething about the one girl you landed having been passed around every thug and drug dealer of the city?
>>223446901>I'm CatalanYou're mid, not med
Latinx here and the guy who printed my DNI fucking genuinely hated the French for some reason and insisted there's no such thing as Latin America, it's Hispanic America and "Latin America" was a francomasonic inventionSo idk
>>223452226I look like that and frown like that
>>223449389>t. been to MexicoPero ¿Tú qué fumas?They just try to copy their northern neighbours, nothing wrong with that.
Funny how boomer spanish nationalists believed in "muh hispanidad" but that concept is rejected by modern, more anglo-american influenced Chuds.
>>223446153We in America consider them latinx, rather than European.
>>223447228>but that’s not the case for Spaniards & LatinxsIt's certainly closer than the likes of Austria, but they escaped thirdie poverty in recent years so now it's more of an embarrassing admission. A lot of people here don't like them anyway compared to the general state of cordiality/indifference among most Europeans.
>>223454466The Anglo dividing the Hispanic race is not a new thing.Back in 1947 General Perón gave a speech in which he praised the Spanish colonization of the Americas as a heroic act of bringing civilization and Christianity to the natives. In that speech, he explicitly called out the people who already back then criticized Spanish colonization for heckin' genociding the wholesome nativerinos, calling them agents of Anglo propaganda.Nowadays, Peronism has been ideologically captured by Anglo progressivism so thoroughly that they hate Spain for colonizing, genociding and stealing muh gold.
>>223454669I do not see hispanidad as being anything other than romantic longing for a long dead empire though, but at least it was a home grown movement.The Anglo brand of Chuddery spreads like a virus.
>>223452093
>>223446153we fack their women :3
>>223449207>>223451709Pacooooooo
>85% Spanish/European and 15% native mutt >No connection whatsoever to Spain or Spaniards>No connection to Indigenous culturesI like Spain but I have no connection to them. I'm sure they would say the same thing about us so definitely Italy and France are closer to them than our reguetonero shitholes
Spanish zoomers hate the hispanidad ideology though. They want to associate with wealthy nordics instead of poor mexicans or colombians.
I think the general consensus is that we feel very close to Portugal, Italy, and Greece. Latin Americans would come second. And then the rest of Europe.Churchill was partly right when he said that language was one of the strongest bonds in the world; however, he forgot to mention that race is an important factor
>>223454777>The Anglo brand of ChudderyI think is just good ole classism, there's nothing particularly anglo about it. Since we live in a globalized world, that classism has surpassed national frontiers ie it has become internationalized, thus whole nations look down on other less developed nations & try to distance themselves from them
>>223455215Maybe, but the rhethoric is wholly unoriginal and imported from MAGA. While the british are the undisputed kings of classism.
>>223455178>however, he forgot to mention that race is an important factorYou're conflating it with social class/hierarchy. Japan/SK are treated as honorary westerners for having successfully integrated themselves within the western neoliberal order even though Koreans were indisputably thirdie at one point >>223455215
>>223454466Pan-hispanism is a meme that only made sense when there was a possibility of rebuilding the empire, and I want to believe that that's why the falange were hispanists and because none of them even considered the possibility of mass latinamerican immigration coming to Spain and how it would affect the country. They simply wanted to form an area of cultural influence like the anglosphere. Nobody who's not a retard or a boomer reminiscing the good days of old even believes in such a thing nowadaysAlso the anglo-american brand of chuddery of the "make America great again" kind is more garbage that parties like VOX would gladly adopt. If you mean the "America first" type of chuddism then that's something I could get behind: no more Israel / Palestine involvement, no more civic nationalism, no more immigration from the third world, no more state secularism, no more soft left social policies
>>223455366America First is barely a thing and for now, unproven. If they ever get any real power, which is a big if, they are just gonna end up selling out.Blood and soil is never gonna happen in a modern globalized capitalist economy
>>223454905I shaved and look like the spaniard in that vid but I actually have a head full of hair
>>223455328>Maybe, but the rhethoric is wholly unoriginal and imported from MAGAAt the core of it, its classism. However, you do have a point when you point out its MAGA influence, however I'd say that just calvinism , ie the holier than thou attitude, you're good because you're rich and youre rich because you're good youre evil because youre poor (and colored). That has been the ideology within the United States since its existance. That way of doing politics (cynicism & brazen apology to injustice) however, has just recently started to become an exported product, because the global elites have become so intertwined that they just reproduce the modus vivendi of the main economical superpower
>>223446772Monsieuuuuuuur nous sommes Frankoids.
>>223455215It's not that we look down on other less developed nations, it's simply about sharing an ancestral connection to Europe and european civilization. Israel or most of latinamerica are "western" but it's clearly not the same>>223455698I think that's the future of american right wing politics and where Europe will follow anyways. You look at the cultural landscape of american political commentators and it's usually about people like Nick Fuentes now while before it was about Ben Shapiro, Kirk or Tucker Carlson. It's just a matter of time. Now if they end up selling out or not and if we'll get mass deportations that's a different matter
>>223455949There is a conflict of interests however if both america, and europe, adopt that form of right wing thought.Pundits like Fuentes want American Hegemony, a truly "Europe First" movement in theory should be hostile to that idea.
>>223455949>it's simply about sharing an ancestral connection to Europe and european civilizationIt's only geographically speaking that you have a stronger connection to Europe than me, anon. Purely in terms of ancestry, I'm just as European as you if not more.And sure there are lots of mestizos in Argentina and the rest of Latam, just like there are lots and lots of browns Spaniards and other brown South Europeans.
>>223446153They see themselves for who they are - gooners
>>223454905I look like this and this happens to me.
>>223455949You need to be over 18 to post here
>>223454466Not at all, hispanismo is probably the dominant view amongst most people, including the young.There's a handful of chuds who are more of the tucker qatarlson style, seething about latinx and memestine (see: the clowns at Núcleo Nacional).
Spanish will talk about we Europeans and the moment they have to leave Spain their friend group in another country will be a Mexican, an Argentinian and a Peruvian (they can't speak English)
>>223455178>I think the general consensus is that we feel very close to Portugal, Italy, and Greece. Latin Americans would come second.I cannot think of a single person who would think this.
After the EU became a thing, I expect that the Spanish feel closer to Europe, obviously. Perhaps things were different before the EU, as Spain was pretty isolated from “main Europe”
>>223458239that can't be true kek
>>223454523why do you have your own flag? You should be flying ours, we own you n iggas
>>223460063If we're able to have our own international teams, the same applies here.
>>223458239I believe this. Language, for good or bad, will define groups more than anything else.
>>223454905Hispanus got real quiet after this .mp4 dropped
>>223458277And what they think?
>>223458239True but because it's comfortable and easier to speak the same languageWhen you actually have to live in the same society and integrate as one ethnic group then race becomes relevant
>>223458216>Not at all, hispanismo is probably the dominant view amongst most people, including the young.Lmao go back nigga
>>223446772Sadly yes
>>223461436This is the moment that finally cemented you as hispanic lolGetting jewed by Argentina is a staple in Latin America, there's a reason why everyone put on Spain shirts
>>223446220The French and English buckbroke you
>>223454905What type of fanfic is this
>>223446772We were all Franks, once upon a time
>>223446901We are, by definition, not MedWe are an Atlantic, Celtic people
Don't care, and we will never form any union or commonwealth. Don't like them simple as.
>>223464295nobody likes chilangos either
>>223446153it dependswhen it comes to academic stuff all they can think about is their neighbors and european stuff, sometimes a postgrad in america at mostbut when it comes to music and some other cultural stuff I see them consuming a lot of latino thingsI remember when I was studying there the girls in the back of the bus that took us to uni everyday would blast reggaeton and trap and I was fully expecting brown latinas or at least blonde cubans, but no, they were full blooded spanish girls.It's a small example that stayed with me but whenever you went out to dance and stuff you could see similar stuff. Also the street food.
>>223451082based. breed those french sluts
>>223463256Poo-fiction, a jeet posted this on another thread.
>>223455178Race is more important than anything. Genetics are what shape behavior and culture.
I'm mexican (eur.) and I consider myself closer to the romans than porto rico or carib mutts.
>>223463954>AIslop proves our whiteness ou algo
>>223446220the church, the pope and jesus all matter in hispanic speaking countries including usa nowwhereas it's just kinda over in france and the money part of italy
>>223446220¿Aunque es verdad thoughbeit?
>>223463954AIslop bait picrel
>>223468836Are you seething because you're not Galician?
>>223468827Falsenuke
>>223446220Nahhhh blud believes hes germanic *skull skull skull* *withered flower"
>>223455328>>223455838Most of the MAGA brand of chuddery is prominent among low class whites and less pronounced among educated/upper class whites that migle wih higher class nonwhites in academic/labor enviroments.Its actually racism, not classism, racism has more friction and precipitating factors in lower class enviroments because people invests less time in expensive interests where race can be ignored, instead inclining themselves for more *body* centered stuff
>>223460013when i lived abroad my first friend groups was Mexicans, US latins in general and a random Peruvian. Sometimes you just want to speak in your native language and that's an advantadge we Spanish speakers have over pretty much any other group, only English is more globally spoken but you have the downside of most people will understand what you're saying opposite to Spanish
>>223472693I've been friends with Mexicans, Colombians, Argentinians, Chileans and I called them all Spanish. If you're from Latin American and look like neither a slave nor someone who walked out of the 15'th century, then you're just Spanish to me. Maybe that's just the Hispanidad shining through lol.>>223472221It also helps that bourgeoisie and especially the nobility get high on ideas of universalism and liberalism so they're the first and foremost who peddle notions of "humanity" over race and "markets and class" over people and family. The proles are idiots sometimes, but usually that just means they're too retarded to see things any differently from what they are.
>>223446220Socio que eres de Villapolla de Abajo y te apellidas Sánchez Pérez y tu madre te cantaba la de ay ay ay ay canta y no llores cuando te mecía en la cuna, no me jodas Agustín
>>223472122Holy zoomer
>>223446220You are though. That's a fact. I get why you don't like pointing it out. It's like saying you're closer to a crackhead on the street than a financier because the latter is a stranger and the former is your cousin. But it doesn't change the relation.
>>223473051>I've been friends with Mexicans, Colombians, Argentinians, Chileans and I called them all SpanishDo you call Australians and New Zealanders English too? Didn't Americans fight a war to not be called English? When you call them Spanish, you're insulting them and making a fool of yourself
>>223473871Maybe I'm just insulting you and you're making a fool of yourself.
>>223474070no u
