Middle East:>Conquered by the Arabs>Islam not even proselytized on the native population at first (the Umayyads weren't even interested in converting people for fear of losing on tax revenue, forced conversion came later from non-arab Mo simps like the Almohads)>The same locals that always lived there allowed to remain>Barely Arab genetically overall, if at all>Arabic language learned millenia ago by the locals, the arabic "varieties" are not even fully mutually intelligible with each other>"WE ARE ARAB WE ARE ARAB"Latin America:>Conquered by the Iberians>Catholicism IMPOSED on the land (it wasn't an option at all)>Native population destroyed>So many iberian men migrated there they displaced the native men almost entirely>Average local is at least half Iberian>Their dialects are all mutually inteligible >"Erm we are not le spanish/portuguese, we're our own thing"How did this even happen?
>embrace the historical rape of your region like a sissy cuck or be your own group and bring justice to those who were wronged
Iraq and Levant and even Sinai/huge parts of egypt have been arabised for a long time before Islam
>bla bla bla *baseless assumptions* *baseless assumptions* fuck off
>>223451093you are an espagnol paco
>>223451036- Brazil has undergone ethnogenesis, the population is not tied to any particular extraneous entity anymore- Our language is Brazilian (ask any Portuguese person and they'll confirm)- Our culture is unique, with a distinctive ethos and mannerisms, way of life, mentality and way of doing thingsIn other words, we have all the elements, we are our own civilization.And Brazil is not latin american.
>>223451240Brazil is latin american
Chikaner thread
>>223451036Is this related to the thread where we shat on you for going ass up as soon as americans set foot in your shitholes
>>223451036The former doesn't gatekeep as hard as the latter.
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>>223451036>they displaced the native men almost entirelymexicans and peruians look native as fuck
>>223451423absoluto idiota
>>223451916Hence the almost, peruvians and bolivians look like moctezuma yet even they are at least 15% iberian
>>223451036Ethnic groups were a mistake.
>>223452002Vpn off retard, you can't even speak portuguese
>>223452333demente
>>223451036>>>Conquered by the Arabsno>>223451036>>>Arabic language learned millenia ago by the locals, the arabic "varieties" are not even fully mutually intelligible with each otherno>>"WE ARE ARAB WE ARE ARAB"we never claimed thisyou are gay and retarded we have nothing to do with arabism
>>223452500>Israel is actually omitted from the map>Complains anyway
>>223452649what map?op listed under 'Middle East': >"WE ARE ARAB WE ARE ARAB"this is not true, what is however true is that OP is gay and retarded
i wish muslims had discovered the americas and not christian terrorists
>>223452698Israel is grey in that map. It's deliberately excluded from MENA.
/int/ should add a sign do not feed/reply to pp
>>223451036I can only talk for Chile and what I was taught in schoolIn the early 19th century our population had a weak sense of national identity (most people were illiterate peasants who had no knowledge of the world besides the near surroundings of the places they lived and worked). This represented a problem for our elite because it meant those people were susceptible to take part in Spanish plots against the revolutionary government for a little sum of money, as it happened during the Spanish Reconquest between 1814 and 1817. They needed an identity that was completely averse to being subjects of the Spanish Empire, and they found it on the struggle of the Mapuche people against the Spanish Crown and a few decades later on the victory of the Chilean army against the Bolivian-Peruvian Confederation in the 1830s.tldr Our whole identity is based on not being Spanish
>>223452727america was discovered tens of millenia before muslims were discovered>>223452743what map?read op post
>>223452767Semantic. We don't call Indians 'Asians' even though they very well are located in Asia, and Quebecois aren't considered Latin American even though they technically pass the description and Haitians are included. You know very well what OP meant with "Middle Eastern".
>>223451036>>"Erm we are not le spanish/portuguese, we're our own thing"Thats because nobody called himself "spanish" in the XVIIIth/XIXth century, since the spanish-nation state. People's identity was based on their city, kindgom & fiefdom or even brotherhoods, not nation states.So when the spanish empire collapsed, people adopted the name of their vicekingdom (kingdom of mexico, peru, etc)
>>223452854yes you are correct which is why he's retarded and gay as middle easteners never claimed we're arab , nor are we conquered by arab or speak arabic.he makes baseless claims out of ignorance(retardation) or out of motivated reasoning (more advanced version of retardation). if you start a conversation by making assertiong about reality that dont adhere to reality there's no way tor me to evaluate his question.>How did this even happen?like how do i answer this in OPs post? i cant answer this in relation to the real world because what he described is not the real world but if its an imaginery world inside gay OPs head than i cant answer that too because only he knows that world and i have no access to it.
>>223453089>like how do i answer this in OPs post?just dont? i assume youre jewish israeli, and not arab, in which case the question has nothing to do with you
>>223451036>comparing middle ages conquest with early modern/modern period settler colonialism>MENA and LATAM national identities came about in totally different circumstances OP is really bad at critical thinking
>>223452500longnoses are not middle eastern, they're south italian larpers and hence intentionally excluded you're not part of the conversation mate, no one is calling you arab
>>223453172he didnt say 'question for X' he addressed the entire boardthen he main untrue claims about reality, a sign of retardation. the question does have something to do with me because OP claims im arab, am conquered by arabs and speak arab none of which are true. no one forced him to claim this about me and yet he did
>>223452754>signed, syrian arab republic
