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Why do Peruvians and Bolivians all live in fucking Mordor at high altitude instead of living in the green lowlands?
I won't lie, I always thought Brazil more or less bordered the Andes, but there's so much room there that belongs to the other countries and they do nothing with it.
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>>223460848
>Spain
Lmao wtf. Is the country that weird? There's mountainous places everywhere, surely we're not that unique?
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>>223460684
I imagine pre-airconditioning higher altitudes are much colder and have less tropical diseases
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>>223460904
your cunt happens to be mountainous on a rare med climate zone, look at italy and eastern turkey, they also look like a mosaic
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>>223460848
That's most of the world, not an excuse.

>>223460871
>northern Mexico
the fuck? Isn't it supposed to be a desert?
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>>223461356
see the second map, it's hell year around. If you don't believe me try living in the amazon yourself
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>>223461404
Your 7th largest city in in the dead middle of the Amazon
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>>223461474
8.5% of Brazilians live in the Amazon. Having people crowded there in a city won't erase all the others who prefer to live in smaller cities in the cooler east
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>>223460684
> and Bolivians all live in fucking Mordor at high altitude

but we don't, that was in The Colonial Period, only the "capital" has high population .... most people live in comfy medium and lowlands
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>>223460684
for aura
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>>223461356
>the fuck? Isn't it supposed to be a desert?
That's a meme, not all of Northern Mexico looks like fucking Tijuana.
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>>223460684
But most Peruvians live on the coast, and a third of Peruvians live in the city of Lima alone, a seaside city, vid related
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>>223466253
VGHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>223466253
As seen in the video, since the coast is rainless, nothing grows except in irrigated areas. Albeit during the winter moths, fog like that shown in the video (rainless but extremely humid biome) creates temporary vegetation on the hillsides, locally known as Lomas de Lima.
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>>223460848
I'm so grateful that this country at least has areas with mild climate.
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>>223460848
neither:
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>>223466313
>Albeit during the winter moths, fog like that shown in the video (rainless but extremely humid biome) creates temporary vegetation on the hillsides, locally known as Lomas de Lima.
that's interesting
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>>223466270
Our coast is pretty sovful, this is how shellfish harvesters live in a city a little north of Lima
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>>223460848
>literal perfect climate
>still a shithole
How do they do it?
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>>223466423
it's interesting how the pacific coast of south america is completely different to the atlantic coast
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>>223466442
chikaner, why are you using an icelandic vpn now?
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>>223463577
>Tijuana hottest day of the year is 24 degrees and coldest day is 18 degrees
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>>223460684
imagine thinking tropical lowlands are desirable non ironically
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>>223466551
can you fix your country soon so I can come visit, I've already turned 40 I would like to go there before I'm a pensioner
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>>223467132
its already fixed just go
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>>223466318
VGHHHH home
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>>223466253
isnt he afraid someone could rob him?
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>>223466445
It’s because of the interaction between the Andes and the cold Antarctic waters carried by the Peruvian Current. Lima is closer to the equator than Rio de Janeiro.

>>223466655
It’s pretty desirable tb h. Lima’s climate is very very stable, except during a major El Niño event, but those are quite rare. Other than that, it never gets too cold or unbearably hot, though the humidity can make warm days feel hotter and cool days feel colder. But the city doesn’t get those deadly heat waves that kill elderly people in other countries and such.

For example, although Lima is warmer than Buenos Aires because its winters are much milder, Buenos Aires has much hotter summers due to its far greater temperature range, as well as heat waves that can exceed 38-40 °C, something unheard of in Lima.

>>223467163
People in Lima’s most remote outskirts are very poor, but they generally don’t steal from one another and instead have a strong sense of community. That contrasts with other poor neighborhoods closer to the city center, especially of Callao, Lima’s port, very dangerous place to be.
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Btw, this is the father of all of our current president's children.
Like four failed presidential runs ago, our president presented him as a rich genius American businessman of Italian origin.
After she dumped him, refusing to live on Lima's streets, he started doing little jobs and mostly creating internet content, which he had never done before.
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>>223460684
santa cruz, my city, is in the lowlands and it's currently the most populated city of the country
la ignorancia es atrevida, as they say.
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>>223467785
Here in Peru, due to massive migration toward the coast during the early 20th century, about 70% of the population now lives along the coast.

Whereas in the early 20th century, around 80% of Peruvians lived in the highlands.

Lima had 553,086 inhabitants in 1940.

Today, over 11 million people live in our capital.
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>>223466253
>not a speck of green anywhere
dismal
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Did you know that in Lima there’s a sect with a strong presence in poor areas that LARPs as ancient Israelites? So our coast doesn’t just look like the Middle East, sometimes it feels very much like it too. They often sacrifice animals to God as well.

They are also very active in politics and have been running in elections since the 90s. They were founded by an extremely poor and illiterate indian man whom they venerate as the as the earthly incarnation of the Christian God.

All things considered, the guy did a good job expanding his organization, especially in the Amazon, where they brought civilization to some previously inaccessible areas. He died in the 2000s, but they’re still active and even have some international presence across South America.

Supposedly, when he died, his soul passed into his son’s body, so he is now the new God, though to them he is the same person.
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>They were founded by an extremely poor and illiterate indian man whom they venerate as the as the earthly incarnation of the Christian God

His followers came from the same background as Ataucusi (their founder): poor, illiterate or barely literate indian peasants from the highlands. The movement began in the 1960s, at the height of migration from the highlands toward our capital, Lima. They were part of it.

They also never cut their beards, since they believe this helps them hear the voice of God more clearly.
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>>223466253
if he had money for that why didn't he pave the floor with tiles, cheap ones don't cost that much
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>>223468368
They list their ideology as the following:

Theocratic – The recognition of divine law to confront corruption and to promote noble politicians
Nationalist – Defending of Peru's identity, culture and natural resources
Tahuantinsuyonism – Promoting the organization and moral ethics of the Inca Empire
Revolution – Moving those experiencing misery within Peru towards a path of liberty and self-reliance
Agrarianism – The promotion of agriculture as a way to improve the socioeconomic standards of Peru in every dimension
Integration – Unifying all Peruvians to benefit the nation
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Also, although our capital is by the sea, because it is so large it extends a bit into the lower western slopes of the Andes. For example, this is the Lima district of Cieneguilla. It ranges from about 130 m above sea level to over 2000 m, although permanent settlement only extends to around 1500-1700 masl, which is typical for the city's eastern districts.

>>223468383
Probably someone has asked him that exact question, and he probably responded, but he only posts anime now and has deleted his old videos, so who knows.
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>>223460684
>that time Potosí in Bolivia was one of the greatest cities on Earth despite having elevation 4,067m (13,343ft)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potos%C3%AD
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>>223468158
Yes we know, you bring it up every fucking time and writes walls of text unprompted
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This is Lima's San Juan de Lurigancho district, the most populous district in the city and in Peru, with over 1 million people

>>223469101
I brought up their work in the Amazon
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This is the highest point within the jurisdiction of the city of Lima, at 2,240 meters above sea level (7,349 feet). Even then, it is still quite low, as it is part of the slopes before reaching the Andean highlands proper, where highland Peruvians typically live at around 3,000 m above sea level on average.
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As you travel farther east and higher up from the capital and the western slopes, the landscape becomes greener and more vegetated.

Leaving the rainless coast behind, you enter the highlands proper, where there are two seasons: a rainy season and a dry season.
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Here for example you have the area around Matucana-Ichoca in Huarochiri Province.

It is within the much larger Lima Region, but not Lima Province (the city of Lima).

It is about 2.5 hours from Lima and 2,785 meters above sea level.
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This is Laraos, in Yauyos Province, Lima Region, about 7 hours from Lima and around 3,300 meters above sea level.
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>>223460684
>live in fucking Mordor
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As you keep going east and higher up, you reach the Suni region, just below the Puna, or Jalca, ecoregion, where the tree line ends. Think, for example, of La Oroya, about 2.5 hours east of Matucana and 3,750 meters above sea level.
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In the Puna, the only trees you are likely to see are a few adapted species, along with lots of ichu grass, unless you get too close to glacial elevations.

Although there are still two seasons, the dry season becomes more dominant the farther south you go through Peru’s punas. The Altiplano plateau shared with Bolivia is the largest of these areas.

The northern Punas of the country are noticeably wetter by comparison. Alternative names for these wetter Punas are Jalca and Paramo.

Pic is for example in the Cajamarca Region, in the north of the country, at about 4,000 meters above sea level.
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>Although there are still two seasons, the dry season becomes more dominant the farther south you go through Peru’s punas. The Altiplano plateau shared with Bolivia is the largest of these areas.
Nevertheless, the Punas on the Peruvian side are considered the wetter part of the Altiplano, also known as the Collao Plateau, since the rainy season lasts longer there.

This site, in the Puno Region, close to the border with Bolivia, is at about 3,900 meters above sea level.
>>223472158
>4,000
4,200*
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>>223460684
>oh yeah half a billion people live here in 15 million person mega cities on the tops of mountains surrounded by jungle with the only connection to the outside world being treacherous mountain paths that truck in enough supplies to feed them
literally don't believe it. There are 50 million south americans tops
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>>223468590
Intestinal
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>>223466655
Many Europeans and some North Americans think all tropical areas look like coastal holiday resorts they see in images of some specific tourist islands. They don't know about the heat, humidity, bugs, diseases and all that.
They genuinely believe eveything in the tropics is a "tropical paradise".
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>>223460684
>green lowlands
That isn't like the bocage in Normandy, anon.
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>>223472870
Continental tropical is hell.
living in the tropics is only worth it if in high altitude places or in costoal places
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>>223472286
If you go higher still, beyond the Puna, there are only a few places if you pursue economic activities. The mine and town of La Rinconada being the highest of all, sitting at about 5,100 masl just below a glacier.

Places in the Puna bordering on 4,000 masl, which is where most Puna settlements are (at the bottom of the Puna), have nothing on it.

At 5000 meters many tourists even need oxygen, or they can die.
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If you descend along the eastern side of the Peruvian Andes, at first you find the same biomes, from the Puna, you descend into the Suni and then the Quechua ecoregion at the same elevation of about 3,000 masl, like in pic related, but on the opposite side of the range.

However, after this, you descend into the eastern Yungas, which are an extremely rainy area full of dense vegetation (unlike the western Yungas >>223469229), and the eastern side is where the Amazon rainforest begins.



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