Why can't they get their shit together?
what was the traditional name for the area along the gulf of sirte and the area to its west which was usually part of tunisia (both of which are now under the name of tripolitania?)
>>223852053turkey is fanning the flames>>223852204bro its the opposite, western tunisia used to be part of tripolitania
>>223852053Ugh I'm sure it's because of CIA, Mossad, postcolonialism or something like that
>>223853758I don't get why libyans don't just say fuck it and kick all foreign powers out and unify the country, it's so cucked to be a chess board for minor powers like turkey and UAE15 years of destruction and lost development for no good reason
>>223853851Easterner Libya hate All Maghrebis and wants to retvrn to Syria o algo
>>223853758>turkey is fanning the flames*uae is fanning the flames
They should return to the monarchy and sufism
>>223855043their royal dynasty was founded by some algerian sufist
>>223853849True. Dey didndunuffin.
>>223855137aren't nearly all sufists ottoman/turkish loyalists?
>>223852053>kill the last guy and let a power vacuum erupt.>totally abandon them and let warlords and jihadists fill the vacuum.
>>223852053>Why can't they get their shit together?Because we (Italy) was and is supposed to step in being the old colonizers and protect Libya but we are too broken and didn't and won't. So, short story France successfully destroyed another country
>>223855774Thats the cost of liberal democracy o algo.
>>223855846Gaddafi had legit info on Sarkozy and Cameron so they wanted him gone
>>223855750they were neither loyalists nor opponents, they just coexisted pragmatically, ottomans didn't care about religious affairs and sufis didn't care about statecraft
>>223856183>Ottomans didn't care about religion They tried to wipe us out like 5 timesAlawites Alevis and Yazidim too
It's the Jews. Libya was on the Clean Break memo list so they used their golems to start a civil war and then freeze it in place
>>223856370I felt like I was going to be understood in the context of north africa and didn't want to make my post too long for the sake of clarification1. they didn't care about the daily beliefs and practices of sunni muslims, they didn't impose their hanafi school and laws on the locals or try to run mosques or zawiyas, etc.2. ottomans in north africa were different from ottomans in the middle east, north african states were effectively independent kingdoms run by an ottoman elite that was based and chosen locally, and not a direct part of the ottoman empire like the middle east which was a bunch of provinces, so there's bound to be a lot of differences in how the states behaved due to this fact
I don't know man you tell me
>>223856764no seriously don't libyans have these conversations among themselves?like fuck all outsiders let's unify libya no matter who governs as long as it's a libyan and it's stable so we can rebuildthe current state of affairs has lasted too long and I don't get how everyone seems to just accept it like it's a normal thing
>>223856929Everyone here is too selfish to unite with others so I doubt that we'll ever make progress
>>223857155shocking well it's your country, but I wish you the best
>>223857244Thank you friend
>>223852053israel should conquer it and put the resources to better use
>>223852053moon + star on flag = cursed
>>223852053why would they want to gather their feces collectively? that belongs in the sewage
because its a tribal shithole
