Why do they?Does this happen IYC?
>>223932926The internet is the only place on the internet where you can find people who prefer commie blocks
>>223932926houses at the bottom actually look different, both their shapes and sizes only similarities is the overall lot size and the color scheme
>>223933031Let me blow your mind>commie block, Eastern Europe :(>commie block, Japan :OThat is to say that high density housing is not inherently bad, it depends on who built it.
>>223933399Japan has very unique urban development and that is why it is liked. But most people from Western countries would prefer living in a house than in a Japanese apartments. I dont understand how is this even debatable, I dont want to be mean but you guys sound autistic. Ever talked to a real person irl?
>>223933031Commie blocks are 50 times more efficient than cager farms. The planet is dying. Do the math.
>>223933463Besides, there is a very large difference between traveling to a place for a holiday and living somewhere. Vastly different needs and priorities
>>223933031Actually, a ton of people prefer high density housing IRL.>>223933095>houses at the bottom actually look different, both their shapes and sizesNot true, that type of development is virtually always performed by one company following a template.
>>223932926Why their yards so small? They're smaller than ours smallest dacha plots of lands.
>>223933463Yeah I know that most people would prefer to live in a big house with a big front and back yard and two large cars and a million dollars in their bank account. But when you try and appease their retarded demands you end up with pic related.People unironically do not know what is best for their own good.
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>>223933654I'm serious when I say this, the bottom one just does look nicer
>>223933593>Actually, a ton of people prefer high density housing IRL.I think it is more like a compromise. But either way, no one "prefers" commie blocks. Houses are more expensive for a good reason, they are more desirable.>>223933633There are only apartments in your bottom picture. And there is no need for hyperboles
>>223933691It looks worse even more bad maintained according to the pics. The only difference is that balconies and windows are unified.
>>223933699There's actually quite a few people that move from detached housing to high density housing, there is a factor of convenience and locality you are underrating.
>>223933463>and that is why it is liked.Because zoomers are the most retarded generation that has ever existed
>>223933691It is obviously nicer. Soviet blocks are poorly built and everyone starts DIY modding their balcony and window so it looks really bad. Plus the lack of maintenance and thermal insulation
>>223933782>thermal insulationNever had any issues.
>>223933771China has these dystopian looking development projects that look like the Soviet ones except there are 10x as many apartments that are 4x as tall. It looks absolutely nothing like Japan at all
>>223932926i rather live in a cookie cutter house than even the best stalinka, let alone a krushnekovka
>>223933826The apartments are generally very tiny so it is not a big problem to heat one up. There is still a lot of heat leaking out. Especially with the original window frames
>>223933865Chinese apartment blocks aren't that bad, they are just tall. The real problem is they have 6 lane stroads even with all that dense housing
>>223933593there is a difference between high density housing to commie blocks >>223933031it's western europeans and americans >>223933826right the carpet on the walls is for decoration
>>223933759Obviously I cant talk about Norway but here that almost never happens unless it is for a financial compromise. People do move from apartment to apartment, especially when renting, that is almost exclusively restricted to apartments. But people have been moving to the suburbs from the cities here for a really long time. It is the same in America, people always move to the suburbs when they purchase a property
>>223933699>There are only apartments in your bottom picture.Yes but the whole urban development is designed to serve the automobile which is made mandatory because everyone DEMANDS that society serves suburbanite scum.With intelligent city development you can comfortably and affordably house an entire nations worth of people all the while improving human lives because people actually have a reason to go outside and use their god given legs for more than just pressing the gas and brake pedals. We were not meant to live our lives inside four walls and cages.
>>223933906>Especially with the original window framesThis is true. But with normal windows it's not true.
yurostanis love their shared walls and roach dwellings
>>223934034i can punch through your exterior wall
>>223934003You seem to have a fundamental problem with understanding the advantages of cars and family homes. People like you think you are all clever but you just seem autistic
It's normal to have some low amount of floors apartment complexes and also disctricts with private houses.But going full suburbian hell like the US or full new modern human anthills capitalism-blocks are both very bad options.
>>223932926I wish I lived in large house like Americans. Capitalism is the best system.
>>223933865While pic related is getting to be a bit dystopian I think it is very respectable that there is a real practical reason for it to be that way, to provide millions upon millions of humans with quality housing.
Bottom has at least space, it would be paradise if they genecided HOA hoes and stopped with zoning autism. Imagine not having a grocery store right next to your house. I bet it's so that they buy more unneccessery shit.
>>223934122Sure it is somewhat reasonable for a country that was extremely poor not so long ago but it is not going to a preference for any developed nation.But with the amount of materials they used to make empty cities with abandoned low quality buildings they could have just spread out the apartments in a more human fashion
>>223934207>poor countryJust because you can afford it does that mean you have to do it?There are a plenty of things a society can spend its money on besides housing. Perhaps one society would rather spend its resources on factories and another on single family homes.Which one of the two wins in a war?
>>223934425Only downward mobile middle class people think this way. No poor person takes pride in being poor
>>223934601What does poverty have to even do with dense housing? NYC is one of the most expensive places to live in the US. Hell even that absurdly thin and tall building south of central park is one of, if not the most expensive buildings to live in in the country.
>>223934727Maybe read through the thread?>NYCThose luxury apartments have a larger square foot than the average single family house in a suburb. This is very dishonest way of arguing. When people talk about apartments they dont mean a 8000 square foot two story penthouse
>>223933593the developed may be the same but the houses don't look identical like the apartments
>>223934161The line of thinking is that local stores would encourage people outside the neighborhood to loiter in the area.
>>223932926> having a lawn is a basic human right o algo
>>223935446Well then just have them in every residential area.
>>223934122>>223934207When I looked into this stuff building really tall buildings are usually a waste. Per floor area 5 story buildings are the cheapest to build and you can still achieve really high population densities with shorter buildings.Paris is one of the most densely populated cities on earth (19,430/km2) and has a height limit of only 7 stories for the most part.
>>223934766That's irrelevant to what people are willing to pay for the space. If rich people cared about living in a big house verses the location and amenities everyone that matters would live in the midwest
>>223936125No its not. The luxury penthouses and similar stuff share none of the characteristics of a traditional apartment. They are more larger and spacious than the average house. I dont think you understand that those type of properties you are talking about in New York have a tax of like 100k a year alone, the type of people who can afford that have multiple properties across the country anyway, they are such a small and irrelevant demographics that it is pointless to focus on them.Besides that, there are a tons of very expensive single family homes in Long Island, Connecticut and New Jersey and a lot of those people work in the city
>>223935612Yeah that's true, high rises are only for very dense development.I really enjoy how mixed Japan is. There are excellently tight pedestrian neighborhoods with small single family houses and comfy apartment buildings that immediately transform into industrial areas with good transportation connections. You can live right next to your factory workplace, take the local train there or even drive a car if you want to. This is what I want.
Live your myth in Europe
>>223938981That's eastern europe though, if it was western the buildings would be pretty but the woman ugly
>>223939028It's all the same shit you can't fool me.
>>223933699Big houses are very high maintenance. I have a rich friend and his parents sold their 1000 sq meters mansion to move into a city apartment because both sons moved out and it was just way too much space for their needs
>>223932926People talk shit about US houses but in my cunt most of those plots would have two or even three houses on them, not one. And no it's not nice to live like a rat, especially when you have shitty neighbors.
