No, absolutely not, 100% negative

>>223990816
Countries that are big have to be federations, it's not a matter of choice

>>223990838
Chinas not a federation

>>223990816
It depends why and how the country is federalized, competition between regions can be beneficial and lead to more innovations in governance, but to much deviation in local markets can reduce economics of scale and reduce internal trade.

>>223990849
What?

>>223990872
Chinas huge but its not a federation

case by case basis
if youre cuntree is as fat as USA you should be federalized
the only fat country that comes closest to a [somewhat] functioning centralized goverment is China, but even then, it's a special case due to the long-standing subservient culture and the autistic reaction to the century of humiliation.

>>223990816
No. It creates a lot of redundancy and overloads the budget for all the wrong reasons. US would be better off admitting that it's an israeli vassal and dropping the state larp.

>>223990903
Why are ou telling me that?

>>223990822
How so?

>>223990910
Chin is big yet its not a federation despite you claiming big countries must be federations?

>>223990926
When did I say that?

>>223990816
Pros:
>smaller states get access to resources that they otherwise wouldn't have
>states have a forum to settle disputes
>bureaucracy never gets entrenched
Cons:
>a state may get fucked over for the sake of another
>states that retain enough rights will see any motion they can't control as a threat
>a military emergency can easily turn a federation into an empire, in extreme cases like Russia (which is a federation) they behave almost like a single centralized state

Personally I don't care for it because it's too half assed. Some states functionally don't have rights yet act like they do, some don't deserve any yet still cling to dust no matter how much pressure they receive. If local government is too strong you're dealing with people who can't see the forest for the trees it becomes almost impossible to plan anything. There needs to be a constant stream of demoralization and threats to get any cooperation.

>>223990909
Israel produces nothing and relies on the US, the US gives NATO 3x more than Israel. Can this retarded talking point end? It's almost as dumb as the 2016 banter about the US being Russia's puppet or the 2000s where the US was Saudi Arabia's puppet. Israel is a literal colony comprised of Polish people, Russians, and Arabs it was created to colonize Muslims into a national body and it failed miserably.

I want to kill the other american flags itt

>>223990816

It's a very good question, but looking at a "whiteness map" it isn't immediately clear. There are basically two sorts, as you've said: the Unitary states (monarch, dictator, communist party etc) and the Federated states. But even so (Russia) this distinction doesn't immediately show a clear quality distinction.

The whole thing is a pure formality, which makes it harder to judge, which is what the stupid Brazilian >>223990838 seems not to understand. The OP Finn who also enjoys cocks, gay sex and anime at least understands the formal distinction, even if it doesn't play out in practice.

>>223990822
If we weren't federalized the effects of our mass surveillance would be even worse than they are

>>223991098
What?

I'm surprised so many Americans on this thread are trashing federalism. From an outside perspective it looks like it's one of their greatest strengths. Not just federalism on a state level but strong local governance seems based too.

>>223990816
The opposite of a centralized country is a decentralized one. Spain is a decentralized unitary country and Brazil is a centralized federal country.
>what is better?
I think decentralization makes sense when you have specific regions with a very distinct culture. So it should make sense for Spain and Russia but not for the US and most new world countries (except countries with high indigenous populations). It feels wrong to pretend society changed because you crossed an arbitrary state line and thus laws have to change, as if the core morality of people changes from South Carolina to North Carolina. This is absurd. Those different polities only exist because of colonial convenience but were settled by the same people

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>>223990816
federalized counties should be split up into centralized ones

>>223990816
yes it prevents one city from siphoning all the country's wealth and stunting the rest of the nation. Russia is an exception but the autonomous regions are more like indian reservations than states

>>223991427
Local governance doesn't matter when there is no community. The Bay Area is what American "strong local governance" looks like. Minorities are the only people with community in this country, and they'll all get mutted within a generation.
States are limited in just how much they can deviate from the federal government. If they do something the federal government doesn't like, the federal clause can prohibit it. So really, states can't be vehicles for social change and they can never offer a truly different living experience.
Regionalism is one of the biggest LARPs that my cunt has. Every city is full of the same socioeconomic classes of people. Natives were driven out of their cities a long time ago.

>>223991517
>the core mentality of people changes from South Carolina to North Carolina
It changes when you go from NY to MA from PA to OH. These states border each other, then you have extremes like going from NH to LA where you can't even believe it's the same country.

>>223990849
If you read about how they actually manage the place, it sort of de facto is. Local party authorities often have quite a decent amount of freedom to tweak policies, manage their own priorities, etc... for a Province.

Federations are better at larger scales than unitary states are. China is a shithole so that proves my theory.

>>223991786
Cites. You forget that most people live in suburbs and a metro area in the US is basically a suburb by another name. The amount of people who live in what the rest of the world considers a city is less than 10%. The amount of space you need to traverse to get anywhere in this country is absurd and the population density in general is very low.

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>>223990816
Federal is generally better imo BUT it has to be kept limited.
A lot of stupid redundant shit like having different car registrations or alcohol serving licenses per state (yes, we do that in Australia) is a fucking pain in the arse to deal with. Some poor cunt from NSW has to pay 100+ dollars for his RSA which costs like 40 dollars in Queensland and yet the NSW one isn't valid in Queensland, it's fucking stupid.
Also some shit needs to be universal for the country for the sake of keeping things functional, e.g. time zones should be determined by the Federal government and not states, otherwise you get incredibly stupid shit like pic related (yes we really do do this)

Yes.

centralism leads to corruption, bureaucracy, and inequality

>>223990816
yes

>>223990816
Spain's system would make the most sense.
Giving away relevant competencies to the states but not having retarded shit like "each state gets different registration laws"
Basically their model is that policies are by default the nation's responsibility and the competencies have to be given explicitly to the states.
It gives the states autonomy without creating retarded redundancy and bloat, which is federalism's biggest issue, while also making it so states don't all have to kneel to the capital, which is centralism's biggest issue.