https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpgABOmLGEk

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I started watching some generic slice of life animu this week. It was a long time since I watched something like this but at this point I can't understand every word being said without even really paying attention. This isn't exactly something super impressive but it still feels like a nice indication of how far I've come.

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>Several lang threads dying on the same day and on friday of all days.

I've given up properly studying textbooks and just decided to watch soviet and russian films for input. I've watched миминo for the first time with english subtitles and then I'm going to rewatch it with russian subtitles to truly understand the movie. I'll probably look up the script or transcript of the movie first to study the words first aswell.

I liked it, it was a novel film. Any other recommendations on russian films or tv?

>>224088212
Everyone dropped language learning because it's not profitable.

>>224088716
I’m too busy studying to post

heya /lang/roids, what'd I miss
oh shit the FAQ is back
𒇻𒌑𒊷
𒈠𒁲𒅖𒊷

this shit better be up when I get back from my errand
不要摸鱼

I don't want to learn German

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elon.io is fucking SLOP
>pic related

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last bump

>>224089999
welcome back

i learn so much faster when high its unreal

>>224088212
>Any other recommendations on russian films or tv?
many, I love soviet cinema but I don't want you to ruin them by watching them to mine for words. Ask again when you're c1

Most are on the mosfilm youtube channel you've already found

>>224095828
Why's that? I'm curious what your process is. When I'm high I can still learn decently, but I wouldn't say that I feel more efficient.

>>224092531
no latin slop, thank god

>>224088212
Check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf5FosY9ZGw&list=PL40OiiJw6-gdhFSbnnq4V8Lu_iBu5L7TF&index=1

Real Soviet comprehensible input for Russian learners

>>224096125
I assume his affective barrier drops to near zero. It’s also why my wife speaks fluent japanese only when she gets drunk and sexually aggressive

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i can understand and read english but i can't speak it, it's so frustrating ):

i can write it, but, most of the time i need the help of google translate

>>224097862
I believe in u beaner

>>224097862
Y' should make a vocaroo of yourself speaking english so we can ̶m̶a̶k̶e̶ ̶f̶u̶n̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ give you helpful advice.

>>224097862
How old are you?

I've switched my 'new' interval in anki (card failure) from 0 to 0.04. It saves me a little time and I don't think it compromises my memorisation success.

>>224097862
I have that problem for my third language.
It's normal, you just need push through and write as much as you can. When you feel like you want to go another level of English start posting on /lit/.

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CHALLENGE
where the fuck is it edition
>简单
Where are we?
Where did he go?
Do you have a map?
I haven't seen it.
Excuse me, I just got here.
>Sedang
I'm not certain, but I think it's somewhere east of here.
Was it in the vicinity when you came here last time?
You need to check, and then you need to check again.
This just keeps happening with you, and I'm getting tired of it.
>𒅗𒂍𒌈
The Song often came into conflict with the contemporaneous Liao, Western Xia, and Jin dynasties in northern China.
Naram-Sin took the unprecedented step of declaring himself a living god and adopted the title "King of the Four Quarters."
Beginning in the third millennium BCE, Austronesian-speaking communities moved south from Taiwan through the Philippines and into the Indonesian archipelago, where related languages eventually spread across most of the islands.
>奖励任务
Please explain what you are doing instead of posting in 3 sentences or more.
>>224094547
thanks, what's good (answer in your TL)

An angel appeared to me in my dream and told me to learn Polish
O kurwa

it was me
zapierdalaj kurwa

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>>224102205
Gdje smo?
Kamo je otišao?
Imate li kartu?
Nisam ga vidio.
Žao mi je, stigao sam ovdje baš sada

Nisam siguran, ali mislim da se nalazi negdje u istoku ovoga mjesta.
Je li bilo u blizinu kada si došao drugog puta? [not right but i tried]

no idea on the rest.

>>224103240
for me, it's 河北彩花

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>>224103240
Jap names are so funny, even if you potentially know all the readings, you still have to guess which one they used.

I speak english and a ok russian
Broken hebrew and enough french to get me around
I'm technically a native arabic speaker but I sound like an asl when I speak arabic
I make lots of spelling mistakes and don't know the difference between the letter س and ص nor ض and ظ

I'm not saying I speak English or russian better than I do arabic, It's just a weird language.

Hoy es mi primer día aprendiendo español. Ya no lo voy a posponer más. Deséenme suerte y, por favor, ayúdenme si tienen algún consejo. Usé un traductor para esta frase, pero la estudiaré y memorizaré las palabras para empezar.

>>224109072
buena suerte hermano

>>224102205
It’s kind of funny how often when I look at these I can tell how I would translate the hard stuff easier than the medium because there’s this assumption that the military/historical vocabulary is easier and the bulk of my reading volume is just history and war accounts.

¿Qué libro de español debería comprar? Los que aparecen en los enlaces de la guía tratan sobre dialectos e historia del español. ¿Existe algún libro de texto gratuito? ¿Y por qué se coloca el signo de interrogación al revés al principio de la frase?

>>224102205
<ئاددىي
نەدىمىز؟
ئۇ نەگە باردى؟
خەرىتىڭىز بارمۇ؟
ئۇ كۆرمىگەنمەن
كەچۈرۈڭ، ھېلى بۇ يەرگە كەلدىم

>>224113518
*ئۇنى كۆرمىگەنمەن

bampu!

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>>224102205
κοῦ 'σμέν;
κοῖ ἦλθεν;
ἆρά σοι πίναξ;
οὐκ εἶδόν μιν
συγγνώμην, ἄρτι γὰρ ἥκω

οὐκ οἶδα σαφῶς, τὸ δ' αὐτόθεν πρὸς ἠῶ ἡγέομαι πέλειν
ἆρα πέλας ἦν ὅτ' ἦσθ' ἐνθάδε πύματον;
χρή σε μὲν διασκοπέειν, δεύτερον δ' αὖθις
τὸ φιλέει γίνεσθαί σοι κᾄδην εὑ ἔχω

οἱ Σόγγονες πολλάκις τοῖσι τότε Λιάοισιν ἑσπερίοισίτε Ξίῃσιν καὶ τῇσι Δσιν καλευμένῃσι τυραννίσιν ἐπετιθεέσκοντο

ἀπέκαμον ἰάζων

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Worth learning Japanese?
I have 2 romances now so I hardly want to try and catch a third (this is just polyfrauding desu), I like anime and LN's, but many times get sick of them if I've watched them too much and stop watching for months / years.
It's a big undertaking but with the exponential rise of weebs doesn't sound like a bad idea, alternatively I could do german since I already have several hundred hours of listening to folk + nazi music so it could be a fairly fast pickup of a language I already have an interest in.

Language learning is just like farming this shit is just so easy when you're not mono.

>>224117751
German then. Literature is way more accessible.

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>>224117751
Also for the newfags for if they don't know if they want to learn a language and don't know if they would have a justified reason of learning one, or if they don't know if it's worth the time investment, or any other RETARDED newfag questions, the answer is that this is so incredibly easy once you learn your first language to an advanced reading / listening level that I'm basically never gonna forget the two I know, and I'm happy to have learned them.

Nobody talks about how easy this is, took me more than half a decade (of mostly dicking around) to do it, but now for the next 70 years of my life it's there forever and I'll probably learn more. It's just so easy now and entertaining to listen and read.
>>224118212
Yeah, might be what I do. I did always have a feeling that by the time I got good enough to do jap shit I would get sick of it again.

>>224118304
Have you done Latin btw? When you say 2 romances which are they? It would be pretty easy and would have a lot of synergy with learning German cases.

>the answer is that this is so incredibly easy once you learn your first language to an advanced reading / listening level that I'm basically never gonna forget the two I know, and I'm happy to have learned them.
Yeah I mostly just read, looked up grammar explanations when I felt like it, listened to audiobooks of texts I had already read when I could. I've made progress that I'm really happy with in Latin in the past 2 years relative to my low per-day time investment. I'm impatient with having added French, since my new high-pressure job is making it hard to put much time in while still improving Latin, but I know my progress-per-hour relative to Latin will be multiple times better since I studied French in highschool. I think part of the gap people have mentally is the focus on conversational ability and polyglottery when polyliteracy and auditory comprehension is much easier to get and 10x as durable.

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>[786] DCCLXXXVI. Tunc domnus Carolus rex misit exercitum suum partibus Brittaniae una cum misso suo Audulfo sinescalco; et ibi multos Brittones conquesierunt una cum castellis et firmitates eorum locis palustribus seu et in caesis. Et sicut supra diximus, in multis firmitatibus Brittonum praevaluerunt Franci et cum victoria Domino volente reversi sunt et capitaneos eorum ad synodum repraesentabant supradicto domno rege in Wormatiam.

>Tunc domnus rex Carolus praespiciens, se ex omni parte Deo largiente pacem habere, sumpsit consilium orationis causae ad limina beatorum apostolorum iter peragendi et causas Italicas disponendi, et cum missis imperatoris placitum habendi de convenentiis eorum; quod ita factum est. Tunc suprascriptus domnus rex natalem Domini celebravit in Florentia civitate. Et inmutavit se numerus annorum in

Got really confused here because I knew Charlemagne never sent a force to England but then I realized in this earlier period Britannia almost certainly meant land of the Britons, i.e. Armorica (Bretagne) especially because even a text referring to the isles themselves as Briton would almost certainly not call the English "Brittones."

>>224083188
What Russian resources are good for an absolute beginner? Most of the resources I see seem to be for people who already know a bit, or they're boring as death. I don't want to spend years just finding resources that work well for me like I did with Spanish.

>>224118417
Italian + Spanish, the strongest polyfraud combo in europe.
Both of which do have good similarity with German.
>I think part of the gap people have mentally is the focus on conversational ability and polyglottery
Yeah definitely, but mostly the "conversational" part. I basically abandoned speaking because I don't even speak in my native language often, like my pronunciation is decent and everything but I would be SHOCKING THE NATIVES with how I speak like some youtuber that I've watched too much.

But speaking really is the AIDS that makes this stuff unfun, I don't even bother with it except when it's fun reading aloud practice to see how good I am at pronunciation. Everything else I can pull up a youtube video, or open a book, or do some flash cards, output is highly overrated and not even needed if your goal is to understand things and have fun.

British-ish English or American-ish English? I will still have an accent, but I need to work towards one to improve.
>>224097862
Same. For writing, I first write, or at least compose it in my head, and then check with translator or I ask an AI chat if it sounds correct and natural, and why not if it doesn't. or I just make mistakes and when someone mocks me I remember them better
>i can't speak it
Books with audiobooks and reading a loud. It helped me with the pronunciation and the sentences stay in the head if you kind of act out these scenes. It's better but I'm still not satisfied though
>>224106411
Maybe you have a speech impediment? For example, in Poland the inability to roll R is treated as such
>>224117751
Everyone says Japanese is super difficult, but I find it easier than French, but I haven't tried to learn Japanese seriously. Of the two, I'd choose Japanese when into otaku stuff and switch to another language when get bored of it.
But I'm really bad at this whole language learning thing, so I might be talking nonsense. Also, what languages do you know?

>>224119392
Ah, I have a different approach. I want to talk to native speakers, but reading in a language I don't know well, instead of Polish or English, is tiring and irritating for me. I think I would have a different approach to languages with a different script

>>224109072
u asked me something abt if all spanish countries understand each other or something like that a few days ago right? what was it exactly? i couldnt reply to u bc i got banned for some days.
if u need media to watch in spanish for free go to fmhy then to non english and then spanish

HelloTalk now has a merge store. Now you can get merch for your favorite hook-u- I mean language learning app.

If anyone knows of good resources for learning Irish, specifically the Connacht dialect, please share. It's slim pickins out here.

>>224121130
>Standard Irish is barely intelligible with the only Irish dialect that has any major group of speakers
Holy shit the Irish Republic has the dumbest government on Earth. Best of luck. If I sperg out and try to learn Gaelic I suppose I'll have to pick a regional dialect then. Doesn't scottish gaelic have a fair amount of resources?

What does /lang/gang think is harder: essere-avere past participle auxiliary verb distinction, or essere-estare verb for ‘to be’ distinction?
French and German just have the former.
Spanish and Portuguese just have the latter.
Italian has both.

>>224121130
https://www.celtic-languages.org/index.php?title=Irish/Dialects
avoid anything on youtube, it's probably made by learners who suck at the language.

>>224121130
i think there was a discussion abt irish in one of the recent previous threads
>>224083188
but the faggy op forgot to put the link to the previous thread
>>224117751
if u learning it bc u want to intengrate into nippon society then not worth it u will never stop being a gajin for them even if u win the sumo samurai ninja king title speak perfect academic japanese and even the old japanese that u heard in the song from akira invade china and korea and drop nukes on the usa for revenge. the will even resent u if u talk better japanese than them lol
if u learning cuz u like their media then yeah i guess tho i miss when i could havd an english song movie or series playing in the background and i wouldnt understand shit but it soundend interesting and kwel, now i understand everything so i can never turn off my brain watching/listening english media. i dont want that to happen to my japanese media, not yet at least. i do want to be able to read manga and watch anime without subs but once i learn japanese theres no going back and i fear its gonna lose its novelty and mystique

>>224121822
essere-avere is way easier

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>>224083188
>>Do not reply to the Jordanian!!
lol why?

It seems like the ending for the dative declension for the masculine singular in German has been switched with the Latin accusative declension’s ending: the -m ending.
To the God - Dem Gott - Deo
God (Him) - Den Gott - Deum
>>224122203
Well, it is in your NLang.

>>224122230
He's mentally ill and replying to his posts may encourage or further his delusions that he "will learn a language this time"

>>224122494
HWNLAL
hehe

>>224122494
He's fine, he's learning German. Other Jordies are impostors

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>>224123328
https://files.catbox.moe/38jz0d.mp4

>>224121942
Awesome, thanks
>>224122118
>i think there was a discussion abt irish in one of the recent previous threads
It was probably me, asking about Irish with Mollie, and it sounds like I should skip.
>once i learn japanese theres no going back and i fear its gonna lose its novelty and mystique
This is so real

>>224123631
>pic
Entartete Kunst.

Are there any good French mystery shows? They all descend into some Scooby Doo bullshit by the second episode.

Nightbump.
I gave up on German, stopped reading what Germans post online, stopped seeking any kind of interaction with them... and suddenly I'm tempted to learn the language again and watch some Austrian animated skits. Spanish isn't as pleasant to the ear as Italian, which somehow stuck in my head more easily, whereas Spanish didn't. Why that? I thought Spanish is easier
>>224123631
kek. Yesterday we had a client at work. He had a French name. Okay, he's probably French. Dark complexion. Okay, let’s not jump to conclusions. French accent. Okay, so he’s French. As soon as someone suggested he might be French, he got upset and very defensive and said he was Arab

>>224120223
Hola! Soy anon. Me gusta el cafe, pero yo tengo un problema. Donde esta el hotel, por favor? Yo tengo un pan e un agua.

Aprendí esto por mi cuenta. Todavía no sé usar acentos.
El género de las palabras también me supone un problema; el francés me confunde un poco porque tiendo a usar el género de ese idioma o del rumano.

>>224097862
Yo tambien, pero español. :(

>>224122370
I can't believe Getmans messed up so bad when they invented their language. That's insane.

>>224126065
u meant to say pan y agua?
also learning acentos is a waste of time since u just gotta put your keyboard on spanish and it will put the acentos for u
acentos is advanced shit dont bother

Sitting in my cozy bed, listening to a Brasil de fato livestream while playing Tower of Fantasy (completely subbed and dubbed in Portuguese). Peak immersion has been achieved.

>>224124168
Read Georges Simenon

>>224123631
True

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>>224083188
Previous thread >>224074591

>>224127262
Yes this is also an issue. French and Italian use E for and and it's now like muscle memory for me despite y being closer to romanian și

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>>224119702
>British-ish English or American-ish English
Why not Irish-ish English

>>224125019
>Spanish isn't as pleasant to the ear as Italian, which somehow stuck in my head more easily, whereas Spanish didn't.
watch argentinian content boludo

Damn Portuguese is really vastly superior to Spanish. Spanish is so bland to me now, literally.

>>224083188
Trying to learn Japanese through duolingo, but desu I'm considering giving up. I can't memorize the damn runes.
There's like a thousand of them, and a bunch of them are extremely similar to each other, and they seem to follow no logic.

>>224134695
>ay caramba this language is so spicy o algo
Latinx lang learners are so fucking annoying

>>224102205
Wo sind wir?
Wohin ist er gegangen?
Hast du bei dir eine Karte?
Ich hab's nicht gesehen
Entschuldigung, ich bin nur erst gerade eingetroffen

Ich bin mir dessen zwar nicht sicher, aber ich glaube dass es irgendwo nach Osten von hier liegt.
Lag es in der Nähe als du letztes mal hier warst?
Du musst es prüfen und nachprüfen.
Es passiert dir immer wieder und ehrlich gesagt reicht mir das langsam.

Die Song kamen oft in Konflikt mit den zeitgenössischen Liao, Westlichen Xia, und Jin Dynastien in dem nördlich Teil Chinas.
Naram-Sin hat's gewagt, den unerhörten Schritt zur Vergöttlichung zu machen, indem er sich zu lebendem Gott erklärt und den Titel "König der vier Quartale" angemaßt hat.
Am Anfang des dritten Jahrtausends vor Christus, sind Austronisch sprechende Völker langsam aus dem Süden von Taiwan durch die Philippinen und in die indonesische Inselgruppe gezogen, wo sich verwandte Sprachen mit der Zeit über die meisten Inseln ausgebreitet haben.

Ich frühstücke beim Anschauen des niederländischen Grand Prix. Gab eine rote Flagge wegen Max Verstappens Unfalls, also hab die Zeit vertrieben, indem ich diese Herausforderung angepackt habe. Jetzt stehen die Auto wieder auf die Strecke und das Rennen steht vor dem Neustart kurz bevor.

>>224134733
Duolingo is retarded, you won't learn anything. Learn the hiragana before you do another thing at all. There are only 46 of them, you can learn them in like 2-3 days if you really try. Then, learn the katakana. Like the hiragana, there are 46 of them, and you just have to know them. You can learn them in a few days. DO NOT, under any circumstances, learn kanji in isolation. They do not mean anything by themselves.They do not have a reading by themselves. Do not do this. Just. Learn. Vocab. You get the kanji for free. Learning Japanese will take you a long time. However long you think it will take, it will take longer than that. IF you put in like 2 hours a day, perpare to study for 5 years before you stop being retarded. Anyone who says they became fluent in a year is lying to you.

>>224134733
Get a text book, dungolungo won't explain the writing system beyond kana and for grammar it's just as bad. If you want to play around with it then it won't do any harm and you'll pick up some words, but if you want to actually learn you need some better material to work with.

>>224134733
>filtered by kana
NGMI

>>224135258
>>224135309
Do you know any good books or material?
I hate kanji, shit makes no sense, it's madness that it even exists at this day and age.

>>224135755
ngmi attitude

>>224135755
>I hate kanji
Go learn Latin or something instead

>>224135755
The more Japanese you learn the more you'll wish there was more kanji, it (maybe counterintuitively) makes Japanese easier to read.

>>224135755
Just use Genki like everyone else. I like Tobira better, but in the end it doesn't really matter. Unless you have a teacher, you don't want to use Minna No Nihongo, because it's written in Japanese with no English, and you won't be able to read it. If you were learning a different language, this is actually the way to do it, but it's impossible in Japanese or Chinese, so don't.

As for Kanji, you just have to suck it up. It's how they write. Once you learn the words, it actually makes it easier to parse sentences. You don't think this is true now, but after a while, you will understand. If they wrote everything with hiragana, Japanese would be even harder to read.

Get the Genki or Tobira textbooks (Careful with Tobira, there is an intermediate text and a newer set of beginner texts that most people don't know about – get the right one). Also get the Dictionary of Japanese Grammar, published by the Japan Times. You only the need the beginner one (the yellow book). The grammar explanations are very good and very thorough, and better than your textbook when you're ready for them. Use this as a supplement. Also, you just have to grind vocab decks. You can make your own, or you can get one of the shared anki decks. Ideally, you'd make your own cards, but it's a pain in the dick, so do what you want. Finally, READ. Just read. Read a lot. Read everything.

i like watching cartoons in my target language.

>>224136861
Which is...?

>>224136861
Cartoons are actually one of the most underrated resources for lang learning imo

>>224134733
They do not follow any real logic. You just have to memorize every single word and how it's pronounced. For example 髪 is pronounced several different ways:
黒髪 - black hair - kurokami
銀髪 - silver hair - ginpatsu
茶髪 - brown hair - chahatsu
白髪 - white hair - shiraga (and, of course, may also be read hakuhatsu in some situations like in the idiom 白髪三千丈).
This is part and parcel for Japanese.

If you want logic learn Chinese:
黑发 - black hair - heifa
银发 - silver hair - yinfa
棕发 - brown hair - zongfa
白发 - white hair - baifa
Very orderly. Very logical.

>>224136928
This is the part that I wish people understood. Chinese characters were developed for the Chinese language. When applied to Japanese, they do not follow the same logic. In Chinese, a character generally has one reading and one meaning. In Japanese, this is not the case. A character can be used in many different words, doesn't really have any particular meaning, and may have 12 (or more!) different readings depending on the word it appears in. Just. Learn. Vocab.

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>>224136909
العربية الفصحى والعربية الفصحى الحديثة

>>224135755
Kanji is the best part of learning Japanese in my experience, I like to think of them like Pokemon - hundreds of unique characters that you can slowly familiarise yourself with.
just start by looking up the 100 most common kanji and go from there.

has anyone ever come on here and asked "should I learn this language" and then gone on to actually learn the language? I feel like if you even have to ask then you're ngmi

>>224137771
ألو، القاعدة؟

>>224138018
To be fair, /lang/ers have yet to learn a single language (to completion).

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>>224136928
chinese seems easy compared to korean and japanese. I do not believe the people who say it's very hard. they must just be tone deaf.

>>224139134
It's harder to get started with Chinese, there's a very big initial difficulty spike with tones + learning how characters work (sound component, radical, etc) + certain grammar like 了 and 的
But once you get past that, it's basically smooth sailing, learning vocab is easy and intuitive
I think so many people get filtered by the initial difficulty spike (or are just so intimidated by the "it's hard" reputation) that they give up early and never realise how easy Chinese could be

Although I've never studied Japanese or Korean so I could just be chatting BS and they genuinely are easier. Who knows?

>>224137011
>a character generally has one reading and one meaning
This is kinda cap, there's plenty of characters with multiple meanings (especially the most common ones), you'll just sort of filter out the ones that fit depending on the context. [spoiler]Multiple readings still throw me for a loop on some, like 行 in 银行.[/spoiler]

>>224139380
Well he did say generally, and 90% of the 7,000 most common characters only have one reading
But most have more than one meaning (because Chinese words are usually two characters not just one)

Any griegaboos aqui (ITT)? I don't have any real interest in modern Greek for its own sake, but I was thinking that I might like to study a little to get a better idea of the sound of modern Greek for reading ecclesiastical Greek in the "historical" pronunciation, as its advocates refer to it. Any advice?

>>224137011
KANJI ARE NOT WORDS KANJI ARE NOT WORDS KANJI ARE NOT WORDS KANJI ARE NOT WORDS KANJI ARE NOT WORDS

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Do you think A2 is possible for a britbongistani pleb like me? Mining new vocab is so daunting. It's not like I'm having a hard time but it just feels like it needs to be constantly learned without no end. I'm going to learn about how to describe objects like say shit is round or gay.

Kanji do not make Japanese harder because Kanji are not words. People get it backwards and think about it like one kanji has a dozen readings; when it’s more helpful to think of it like a dozen individual words happen to use that particular kanji. Therefore they do not meaningfully slow learning of vocabulary, and if anything can help with reading by providing an immediate visual hook to the word instead of just a mere sound, which can help immensely for recalling meaning.

>>224127610
sounds nice

three hours of Latin studying done today

>>224135724
>>224135828
>>224136221
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>>224136450
Alright I'll try to stop bitching about it, I was just venting because it sucks. I can understand what is said, the problem is reading and writing that madness.

Input is KING.

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Input it, KING.

>>224143644
I hoped nobody saw that kek

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>>224139256
Arguing over which one is more difficult is kinda pointless, like Japanese will throw readings at you based on the characters phonetic component which correspond to three different Chinese languages plus a load of yamato word readings associated with them, and which one is used in any particular word is completely arbitrary. Though on the other hand it uses less characters in total and a lot of words are just written phonetically. What they have in common is that the learner will face a massive wall at the start, with completely new grammar, vocab, cultural references etc. It's like EVE in this old ass comic with the others being European languages. A pain to start with but if you just get over the edge it's smooth sailing from there on.
>>224143184
The writing system IS ridiculous, it's on par with shit like Akadian and Assyrian cuneiform writing which funnily enough I've seen Japanese texts compare it too. Anyway you just have to make your peace with the face that it is what it is, and that you will never ever be able to read names with anything better than an educated guess.

>install yomitan
>integrate with anki
>in 15-30 minutes of reading in the morning, mine 10 vocab cards with sample sentences
>every week vocab grows 70 words per lang
Wow it really is that easy to just balloon my vocab now that I have the core of Latin/French familiarized. Doing it with yomitan and reading is unbelievable less annoying than trying to mine from video subtitles.

im going to try ethots and booktubers for input. is this a good method?

>>224146027
You will end up sounding like a woman and/or faggot.

>>224146218
Ok, i will return then to the last chapters of assimil and netflix slop.

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>>224143644

After 20 years of intense study, you may be able to understand a more simple sentence in a newspaper in your TL.

>>224148402
This is a true statement because even after 20 years of study you may just get unlucky and encounter a word you don’t recall

Correct link this time. >>224148357

Polyglots who pride themselves on how many languages they speak are mostly dumb. They usually speak very close, related languages.

I speak 4 languages (French, English, Spanish, Portuguese), and yet I know I'm kind of a brainlet in regards to languages since they're all so similar. I've never been able to be disciplined enough to learn something unrelated to latin. Even russian tires me

I kneel before euro speakers who learned unrelated languages like mandarin or tagalog, they are far more disciplined or intelligent than I am.

>>224148814
I know some Classical Nahuatl and Classical Quechua.

okay fuck people who say the language exchange apps aren't glorified dating apps
people generally only respond to you if a) they're extremely desperate to practice their TL with literally anyone or b) they find you attractive
two separate women this weekend started randomly asking me fetish questions after we'd been talking for awhile
probably a coincidence but still wtf, I thought we were language partners. I literally ignored all the prior hints under that assumption

4chan.
Four-Chan.
Voice the F.
Voice the CH.
You get ‘Virgin’ in an Indian accent.

>>224140454
So what's your goal? I assume you're Orthodox or Eastern Catholic? Do you just want to be able to understand the divine liturgy/prayers?

>>224145834
ty for tip

>>224146027
realistically anything that motivates you enough and keeps you excited and engaged about learning the language while still giving you at least some challenge is good

>>224148814
tbf some non-Indo European languages have simpler grammar than others. Just being a native IE speaker, you'll notice some patterns in slavic languages with like verb endings and cognates, but they're really just extra little hints. A language like Tagalog is extremely different grammatically from IE languages, but once you wrap you head around it, it clicks and is much easier than learning Russian or something. I've tried both

>>224148874
I really wish they weren't, for Japanese I can barely get the married elderly folk to talk to me
Wonder if it'd be different if I learned something like Spanish or French

>>224149013
my observation is it's a lot about the ratio of native speakers to learners
French speakers are busy getting messages from 100 people a day so they're usually quite boring to talk to and disengaged
Meanwhile a Russian might only get a few messages a day, so they'll be much more likely to be engaged in the conversation
my tip is to look for people who aren't native speakers of your TL but have a higher level than you. They're probably experiencing similar frustration finding a language partner but still useful practice

>>224149013
>Wonder if it'd be different if I learned something like Spanish or French
kek 90% of my french knowledge is from gooning with tartelettes on hellotalk

>>224149013
Japanese is an odd one because there’s really way more Japanese people learning English than the reverse so you’d think there’d be high demand for English speakers, but no.

I wanna be an English speaker desu :3

I am a long-time lurker and this is my first post here. How do you find native speakers in real life to talk with? How should you go about it if going abroad is out of the question?

>>224149934
What’s/‘re your TLang(s)?

>>224150084
TLangs? What is that?

>>224149934
Maybe there's a cultural festival in your area or algo.

>>224150140
Interesting idea. A search didn't yield any useful results.

>>22415012
Target languages
What are you learning

>>224149892
But you are a native english speaker

>>224150123
target languages. where do you live

>>224150457
I'm supposed to become an American or die _:(´ཀ`」 ∠):

>>224150564
Then just move here
It aint hard
And English is easy beyond phrasal verbs and the letter L

>>224150564
But you are an american, you aren't foolin anyone, ALT.

>>224150599
ガンバリマス! (￣^￣)ゞﾋﾞｼｯ!

>>224150564
Why are you larping private Gomez?

>>224149934
>>224150156
where do you live and what language, i will do the research for you i have such experience

>>224150677
>Gomez
that's not right, lieutenant columbo (^^ゞ

>>224150728
Private Fernandez

>>224148874
filter to only men

>>224150734
タケシやっちゅーとるねん! ( _`ω´)_ﾊﾞｧﾝ
I'm not in the military. I'm just a civilian Takeshi, you know?

>>224150156
i really want to help if you dont want to say it publicly then add me on discord
username in pastebin link
https://pastebin.com/CkJySEJu

>>224150763
If you really wanna learn like I said get over to the US somehow
We love Japanese people

>>224150867
>learn
you too

>love
us too <3<3<3

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You'll never have enough time to learn the languages you want to learn

>2 years 1 hour per day
VS
>10 years 10 minutes per day
What learner has a higher level? Of course they aren't doing duolingo pretend they're doing a real method 10 minutes a day

>>224152929
i don't know, would you rather goon for 1 hours a day or 10 minutes a day? One is enjoying the moment while the other is getting it over with.

>>224148814
>English
>Chinese
>Spanish
>Uyghur
I HATE closely related languages

>>224153191
Kek

It’s interesting that in both German and Latin ‘in’ can mean one of the meanings of ‘to’ in English, but Early Modern English makes more sense in the use of the word ‘unto’, a near-synonym.

Relating to interesting facts, I found it insane that in Russian that it doesn't have the word "it". There is no gender neutral lifeless term for it. They just use him, her or they for it instead. Nobody mentions it but it's incredibly jarring. It's never mentioned either like at all. Like they expect you just not care or notice but yeah, they don't have it in their language. If they do then I've never encountered it so far.

>>224155015
oнo?

>>224155405
I've been studying for months and rarely ever seen oнo. Either somehow it's a massive gap in my knowledge or it's rarely used.

Or now thinking about it, it could be just gendered "it"s and somehow never seen oнo used for gender neutral terms.

Este es mi segunda dia cuando yo aprender español.
Me encanta la lingua español.

>>224155535
i suppose if you were to talk about a window (oкнo), you could use oнo in place of the noun?

>>224155535
russian has 3 grammatical genders, words with neuter gender are very rare so probably thats why

>>224155690
>>224155707
Btw been studying russian for several months now and psyoped myself into believing that it didn't exist.

>>224155535
like maybe you think neuter should be used for all lifeless words as "it" in english? but russian doesnt care about real life state of words, they just have specific grammatical gender randomly and use specific pronouns for them

>>224155762
its okay, now you know, "oнo" is very weird anyway

>>224155784
Yeah, probably that. Like I knew gender infects almost every single word in russian and how it's used but it just feels so wrong it not being neuter and then also not ever seeing oнo in use. I'm happy I'm corrected here than in the wild because that's a regarded mistake I've made.

>>224155784
>but russian doesnt care about real life state of words
it actually does, thoughever

>>224155858
yeah its common for native english speakers to make mistakes like that in languages with grammatical genders
also
dont worry, russians would be happy to know that you study russian

do you remember how you got better at reading in your native language?
when i was in school, we read books appropriate to our reading level (we took a reading test), and we did it in a group. i remember reading the detective series nate the great
i have a russian graded reader now, which adapts classics to make it easier for students. it's pretty good at introducing vocab, plus reading a longer narrative makes it less dull than flashcards

>>224156273
mostly by reading lots of books and making flashcards of rare words to memorise
my parents made me read Dickens when I was 10 and after that everything else was easy until I started reading post-modernist stuff when I was 19

>>224148402
also happens in your native language
What the fuck is 'falandyzacja'?
I had to check it out in online dictionary

https://see.mv/108119

>>224149002
No. I'm Latin Catholic. The reason I'm interested in the ecclesiastical/"historical" (the advocates on Youtube seem to prefer the term "historical") pronunciation is I prefer to have a pronunciation in my head modeled from external sources and not just whatever I make up in my head from a pronunciation chart. I want to avoid being yet another "Erasmian" at any rate. Luke Ranieri, who uses a restored Attic pronunciation scheme, has talked about learning modern Greek to inform his restored pronunciation. Even if I ended up going in that direction eventually, I thought starting with modern Greek pronunciation would be worthwhile.

If no one has any recommendations, I'll probably just get a recording of the Greek (Koine) NT in modern/historical pronunciation, and then just search "Greek comprehensible input" on Youtube. Hopefully studying Koine and modern at the same time will be synergistic and not just a confusing mess.

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>>224156273
Open book
Underline words you don't get or meaningless phrases
Make an index in the back of the book with them
Re-read it until you get it

You can determine your literacy and also what level the book is at based on an analysis like this of the first few pages

no conosco l’Français

>>224155015
because no one uses it

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>>224152628
You're lucky if you can learn even one (1) as a boomer unc 25+ years of age.

>>224159473
conversely, if you learn one as a child it sticks with you forever, even if you forget lots of it relearning it is very easy

>>224159539
Alexander Arguelles’s son, who grew up in Korea in large part with a Korean speaking mother and a father who could speak it as a second language, had to do years of study to enable communication in Korean.

Kanye West could speak fluent Chinese when he was 7 years old and can’t speak any now.

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>>224159473
This guy and his AI slop thumbnails

>>224159648
>Kanye West could speak fluent Chinese when he was 7 years old and can’t speak any now.
not true

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bump

>learning a completely pointless foreign language for no reason

>making a completely pointless ritualpost for no reason

>>224097862
Talk to yourself in your head all the time.

>learning a useful foreign language for many rational reasons

>learning no foreign language for a completely pointless reason

>>224162096
jordie!

every language I learn is useful

>>224159473
Nah in my tutor group most people were 35+ and they learned quite well but I did notice they had harder time memorizing what was easy for me probably due to age.

I've noticed that most people in the language learning communities are older.

>>224163431
I've noticed that language learning community is mainly young attractive women.

>>224159662
Imagine if he fails to learn spanish even with his million-flashcard secret method.

>>224163605
It’s funny to imagine how far along he would be if he literally had just hit the subtitle button

>>224159662
>>224159473
Has he tried adding reading? Their method says to start at 600 hrs.

>>224163800
No. He waited until 1000 hours to read, then instead of reading books he read a few subtitles and then he gave up.

>>224163848
Why can't he just start reading now? Like just because he neglected it doesn't mean he's fozzilied it or whatever. It just means he's slightly behind. He can just start reading now or continue watching spanish tv with subtitles.

He's ditching it because his method sucks? Like he can just learn with a new method and continue. Seems like he's throwing away 1000 hours out of spite.

>>224164301
I think someone criticized him for not disclosing that he had used duolingo years ago to learn spanish. He's going to continue with his method.

>>224164301
He’s not ditching Spanish. His whole series was to take the ALG advice of dreaming spanish completely literally and to rigidly delay reading and output to when they said and to not use subtitles until recommended. Basically using this method that he believed was bad, to see whether or not the ALG purists were right. Since his progress at 1000 hours is way off where he was supposed to be, even with the advantage of knowing esperanto(fag) before starting, he is now abandoning the dreaming spanish recommendations but is not abandoning Spanish.

>>224164589
>you used spanish Duolingo for a month 15 years ago so learning via ALG is literally impossible
Cult

>>224164757
>>you used spanish Duolingo for a month 15 years ago so learning via ALG is literally impossible
>Cult
He criticized someone for being to good at spanish after 300 hours because he had taken 9 hours of classes years before. What comes around goes around.

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>>224159648
Not relevant to what you said but it's been so long now that I've given up on it and moved on, but I once emailed him asking how to get his out-of-print Korean textbook with its audio cassettes. Today in my recommendations he appears again with...a bookshelf tour

Not criticizing, slop pays the bills, I'd do it if I had a successful youtube channel. But seriously, it just shows that linguistics is a nerd hobby, on the level of star trek fans, not a serious or scholarly occupation unless you're like some professor of medieval literature

>>224159539
i think that's true to some extent, but i think it's more like a muscle that atrophies if you don't use it regularly. i read that even immigrants would lose proficiency in their native language if they switch to using another language exclusively. sad but true

>>224088212
you can also read dramas, there are quite a few russian ones

>>224166342
Any examples you would recommend? Despite it being my target language, I'm barely aware of any of it's media but I'm aware of the country's history.

>>224166519
chekhov has many plays. the marriage proposal is a shorter one, plus it's old enough to have english translations in the public domain

>>224161061
>>224163431
>>224163477
>pointless
>hot cougars waiting to talk with you
>>224163650
It's against Dreaming Spanish method >>224164814
If I remember correctly, he criticized the effectiveness of the method because someone learned the basic first and then attributed all the success to the DS method alone. It's a valid critique.

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Anyone here ever use DLI G.L.O.S.S. lessons? They seem to assume some basic proficiency and exist for expanding vocab and practicing. Some languages have literally thousands of lessons. I'm considering using the pdfs plus audio for mining material but I think just reading full books might be better.

>>224088212
>I liked it, it was a novel film. Any other recommendations on russian films or tv?
Mopфий
Coбaчьe cepдцe
These are ones of my favorites, but the latter would probably be too difficult for a beginner.

>>224083188
Does anyone actually use the wiki?

>>224168486
>Mopфий
I remember the nurse in that film had quote a pleasant Russian accent, which is interesting and surprising because most of the Russian accents are horrible, and mostly spoken by poorly educated people, which doesn't help at all.

So だらけ isn't a particle, it's a noun used as a suffix. What's even the difference.

>>224155015
>>224155858
>It just feels wrong
English was like this a few hundred years ago (to a lesser extent), if you didn't know the gender of something it was masculine by default. There are places in the world where this is still the case.

>>224155674
lel I deliberately avoid any places filled with spanish learners because of this

>>224156273
QRD for the officially /lang/sanctioned way of doing this
>Open book
>Read the first chapter a couple times - this will tell you your level but also introduce key vocabulary you'll use for the rest of the story, the largest amount of new vocabulary is usually in the first chapter
>Get a mouseover translator
>Make anki cards
Got through the entire harry potter series doing this when it was way over my level, never read them before so I wasn't somehow cheating knowing the plot, by the last book I had improved so much I didn't really need to look up words anymore.

I'd advise doing this with an actual series, you'll learn the specific vocabulary for the setting and it will launch your level higher artificially in that one particular setting, so you can read more interesting / higher level things and really nail down the last couple books of the series with a higher level of understanding.
A similar boosting method can be done where you pick a topic and read wikipedia + news articles about said topic, you learn the specific vocabulary and instead of being a b1 with no specific words you turn into a c1 relatively speaking (drop back down to b1 for other material but in the meantime you can read much more interesting things)
All this + making new anki cards for it.

>>224167647
>someone learned the basic first and then attributed all the success to the DS method alone
People do this all the time. Someone will study French literature for four years in college, feel like they learned nothing, finally do a few hundred hours of immersion afterwards and massively improve, and then they'll tell people to not even learn anything about grammar at all and to just input. The only testimonials I've seen of Dreaming Spanish that are successful are people who did not actually do ALG purism, but instead had some prior grammar study, literacy, or started reading and speaking much earlier than they were supposed to. I have seen videos of people doing a purist method who have made it to 2,000+ hours of input but feel paralyzed speaking.

>What comes around goes around.
Why are you so petty about some literal who youtuber? Cultist.

>>224169704
Exactly, that's why I think this guy's criticism is valid. Often, people throw out advice like this without thinking it through or considering the entire process they've gone through to achive a thing.
>What comes around goes around.
>Why are you so petty about some literal who youtuber? Cultist.
I don't think it was meant for me

>>224169704
>Why are you so petty about some literal who youtuber? Cultist.
If 8 hours of classes years before invalidate ALG then so does duolingo years before.

>>224169975
>>Why are you so petty about some literal who youtuber? Cultist.
>I don't think it was meant for me
Forgive me for the typo lmao.

Overall all the successful input methodologies whether you're dissecting some 19th century polyglot's journal, some 20th century input educator, or modern stuff like AJATT seems to have 3 underlying pillars.

1. Some way of priming grammar (direct method counts as priming grammar). Tae Kim for an AJATT-style japanese approach, a latin primer or grammar translation book, etc.
2. Massive amounts of input, ideally either written or subtitled.
3. Taking from that input unknown words, accumulating them, and somehow reviewing them. (this can range from modern-style anki mining to literally asking people in the jungle what a word means and writing it down in a journal to reread later)

Dreaming Spanish and other ALG-purist methods do not work because they wholly exclude pillars 1 and 3 and they butcher pillar 2 by warning against subtitles or reading for an absurdly long length of time.

Pillar 4, which is actually talking to people, makes you able to talk. Similarly, it is far too delayed or wholly absent in ALG-purism, the silent period is way too long.

it seems like there's a massive amount of noise out there about methods but basically all the unequivocally productive ones 1. prime grammar 2. read (or otherwise input with subs) a lot 3. accumulate/review vocab

Fundamentally, a lot of methods aren't that different, people are just trying to sell you something. However, if the method does somehow manage to fall outside of this core universe of how languages have been learned for the past 2,000 years, it's probably because the method is retarded, and you're being sold a cult.

>>224170092
>If 8 hours of classes years before invalidate ALG then so does duolingo years before.
Not really my point. Try to keep up buddy.

>>224170122
This is all fine and you might even be right but you have exactly as much evidence for it than ALG purists have, which is none.
Your "pillar 3" is especially shaky since a lot of people learn a foreign language and approximately 0% of them use anki or a similar system to do reviews.

There's also something to be said about "pillar 1"... you can only ever learn a tiny fraction of a language's grammar explicitly because they're too complicated and we've never managed to write one out in full.

>>224139256
>learning how characters work (sound component, radical, etc)
you don't need to know that. you can just remember the characters. the system doesn't need to be understood.
peopel don't learn tones properly and this is the fault of the teaching. the mistake is to say here is "a" 4 ways -/v\, instead of here are 4 totally different things. if you were learning pron with zero writing or reading of pron explanation involved then your brain would get pron much easier.
korean is easier than chinese but you should ignore korean romanisation completely. people should avoid pinyin too but that is difficult if you are getting a teacher.

>>224168762
lot of dead links on the russian page desu

Also, adding reading and speaking 1,000 hours in is not really so much ALG-purism as it is abandoning ALG and switching to a normal input method after 1,000 hours of doing a stupid program. In that sense, ALG purists do not really argue that one should purely do ALG, but that one should delay normal methods for 1,000 hours out of some vague fear of "damage" to your ability to learn the language.

>Your "pillar 3" is especially shaky since a lot of people learn a foreign language and approximately 0% of them use anki or a similar system to do reviews.
You're either nitpicking at best or just completely missing the point at worst and I don't feel like arguing with you there.

>you can only ever learn a tiny fraction of a language's grammar explicitly because they're too complicated and we've never managed to write one out in full.
you are an idiot

>you have exactly as much evidence for it than ALG purists have, which is none.
I can, right now, go find bilingual latin-greek dialogues and readers made around 2,000 years ago. I can find bilingual lexicons, bilingual phrasebooks, etc. I can also find grammars of Greek written in Latin. If I, a fluent Latin reader, wanted to learn Old English, I could literally go and find bilingual textbooks that prime basic vocabulary and grammar, then I could go read the wessex gospels with a latin-old english lexicon made for such a purpose 1100 years ago, or with my vulgate on hand.

I began to belabor the above point by providing other examples but it dragged on so the point is that we have extensive records of how people have learned languages for the much of human history with certain practices like diglossia going back to FUCKING SUMER.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPTnGciiBbs

>>224170402
>you are an idiot
Nice argument, very convincing. The NLP crowd tried writing a parser for 50 years. Never succeeded. Dead field.

So is there any credence in the motivating factors of learning a "heritage" language when you're just a fucking American mutt? I have Irish and German ancestry but that sounds fucking horrible to say:

"Yeah man I'm learning Gaelige because my ancestors couldn't eat fucking potatoes".

Just so I can be told I'm not even Irish and can't claim it.

>>224170549
you might be able to claim it if you have birth records, or can procure them.

>>224170473
Totally irrelevant to any point I was making which is why you are an idiot. You are seemingly not capable of confronting arguments directly so you just ignore the argument and make it about machine processing of natural language or something idiotic like that.

>>224170549
You are American. We are an English people. Your heritage language literally is English. Go read Shakespeare.

>>224170549
Alternatively, learn Latin, since it's our heritage literary language.

>>224170679
>Totally irrelevant to any point I was making which is why you are an idiot. You are seemingly not capable of confronting arguments directly so you just ignore the argument and make it about machine processing of natural language or something idiotic like that.
Why is this idiotic? If you are teaching a machine how to parse a grammar you actually have to tell it all the rules. With people there are a lot of confounders, that don't exist with machines.
As it turns out, grammar is far more complicated than it looks like. As in, we teach less than 1% of the rules explicitly and they magically learn the remaining 99%. Why is that fraction of 1% even important?

>>224170549
Dude, who gives a fuck

>>224106411
>I make lots of spelling mistakes and don't know the difference between the letter س and ص nor ض and
ص, ط, ض, ظ are pharyngealized equivalents of س, ت, د, ذ respectively. When articulating them, you should make the back of your tongue tense and pull it back towards your pharynx.
Maybe not the best example but here is my example:
https://voca.ro/17wZwwjiHRlJ

>>224170386
Is it a community wiki because we should start fixing it or give further advice or material for people to study.

Luckily besides the wiki, the other links in OP's post seems to work.

>>224139380
>with multiple meanings (especially the most common ones)
A considerable portion of those are deficiencies of the simplification.
E.g. cf. 干 in simplified Chinese characters vs traditional:
simp. 干涉 - trad. 干涉 gan1she4 (in the sense 'to interfere');
simp. 干净 - trad . 乾淨 gan1jing4 ('dry');
simp. 干 - trad. 幹 gan4 ('to work').

>>224170122
I forgive you. Cool pillars I think
>>224170549
What >>224170679 said honestly. It would be different if you had any living relatives who used Irish or German on a daily basis, or at least deceased ones who you remember, like to honor their heritage, but your ancestors heritage is abounding Irish and German for English. The opinions of others, even native speakers, don't matter (otherwise no one would ever learn German, not even Germans). Learn what you want, even Irish if you like it

>>224169313
だらけ is morphologically deemed to be an affix because it's distribution can be clearly defined due to it only attaching to semantically related words i.e. it only attaches onto nouns denoting objects abstract and concrete like 穴だらけ、泥だらけ、嘘だらけ, etc. you cannot say something like [Proper Noun]だらけ or 一ヶ月だらけ for obvious reasons, meanwhile clitics and particles have wider distributions since they're less picky in terms of semantics and are usually able to modify whole phrases, the enclitic particles の、が、から、だけ、etc. still have to be preceded by a word or phrase to carry meaning but they do not make strict semantic considerations, also the enclitic particles in most japanese dialects don't even resyllabify the words/phrases that they are attached to (excluding kagoshima-ben where particles are bound clitics)
the distinction between affix - clitic - independent word is fuzzy though which is why the classification of stuff like this is complicated, doesn't help that linguists have/had a bad habit of using the term "particle" as a catch-all for anything that doesn't fit into any other morphological category

>>224170749
You're making continually irrelevant and idiotic arguments. I accept your concession as to all my major points.

>>224170381
If you know how characters actually work then it becomes much easier to learn and remember new characters

>>224172203
your brain should be good enough at pattern recognition to pick this up subconsciously without even knowing what "phono-semantic compound" means

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Thank you Australian who told me to read Georges Simenon. I didn't read his books (only his first Maigret until he found the double in the toilet) but I listened to
https://www.radiofrance.fr/franceculture/podcasts/les-nuits-de-france-culture/maigret-et-le-clochard-1ere-diffusion-30-10-1982-8510877
and it was very understandable, even with the old shitty AI transcription. I thought, ah they must have turned all of his stories into radio plays in the 80s or something, but apparently not. So I'm going to listen to "La Dernière Nuit du monde" next, though it seems far more difficult.
Either the France Radio site is absolute shit or Finnish has more radio plays available, because I checked on Yle and
https://areena.yle.fi/hae?q=kuunnelma&service=radio
they have like all of them listed there.

>>224172520
Unrelated: I fast forwarded through a Finnish radio play from 1971 and it was standard language with some colloquial touches all throughout, very old-fashioned / unnatural, but then at one point there's a drunk woman talking and it's the exact same language and cadence I hear in my local bar. Very unnerving.

>>224162786
It doesn't matter anyways, everyone is going to be unnaturally biologically young from epigenetic reprogramming in like 2 years

>>224162786
It's over

>>224173664
Doubt it

>>224172520
thanks for the recommendation. I'm gonna try to mine through one of his books and then reread it as my slow backburner vocab builder.

>>224170122
>3. Taking from that input unknown words, accumulating them, and somehow reviewing them.
I actually disagree nowadays that initial learning of words in context is superior. Actually learning new words via content is very very slow, it's mostly useful for training rapid recognition and refining understanding of the meaning. my current loop is to have the ai extract all the content from whatever I want to read/watch/play and run it through a frequency analyzer and add anything not currently in my frequency deck that gets me to 99% token coverage and goon that to completion and repeat for each new thing I want to do.

>>224171676
>america doesn't have meaningful irish heritage
this is an american song written in america in the 1800s (not ireland)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEf83WQhsFQ

>>224173733
it's already worked on animals and human cells. they injected a real human with it a couple months ago and we'll hear the results soon.

can you order without pointing at pictures in the menu yet

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>>224173997
and suspiciously the lead researcher is 57 but looks 40

>>224170549
Those are not heritage languages. It means 2nd gen immigrants understanding "kitchen Spanish/Chinese/etc."

>>224170549
Are you retarded? If you were born in america and have english as your native language, that IS your heritage language. No amount of great great great grandparents will allow you to claim Irish as heritage

>>224174813
No vro old english is my heritage language because I need to feel oppressed.

Englishmen (Americans) don’t realize that the alienation they feel is because the culture of our country has alienated us and not because our own culture isn’t American, so they go grasping for kosher identity that won’t offend anyone instead of just getting in touch with their culture’s actual literary tradition and identity. Basically Americans feel alienated because they’re American, since America has become less American.

>>224175113
Or they are dead set on larping as other cultures because they hate themselves.

>>224173997
Plebs like us won't get it if it's true

>>224169554
You deliberately avoid learning places in general...

>>224174284
>40
he looks over 50