Will we see the return of names like Theodemir to exist alongside Zvonimir and Branimir?
Long have I desired to look upon the kings of old. My kin.
Aren't you Iranians thoughalgo
>>224209188Retard, the Ostrogoths weren't here anymore when we arrived in the 7th century. Kys, jebem ti glupu napornu mater kurvu prvo normalno a onda u picku.
>>224209188Is ostrogoth larp for your cunt the same as the viking larp for us? Trully, Slavs are pathetic, deformed beings, children of Morgoth.
>>224209297We arrived in the 5th century, bearing the name Ostrogoth, retard. I‘m not denying slavs or iranians or whatever came in the 7th century and later, but they weren‘t the warrior class element in the mixture that was present during the Croatian kingdom of the 10th century. All our kings were Ostrogoths, from Theodemir to Zvonimir.
>>224209344I can‘t believe you larp as vikings at first glance since you‘re monkecoded. But perhaps there‘s actual evidence for it though it sounds unlikely.
lol
>>224209395Aren't ostrogoths were wiped out by Justinian back in the 6th century? Busta Gallorum 'n sheiit.
>>224209395>We arrived in the 5th century, bearing the name Ostrogoth, retardKys majmunović. Po kojim povijesnim izvorima picko maloumna? Prekini jebote, macetom bih te isjekao na komade i nahranio divlje svinje. Prestani nas brukat kao kolektiv pedercino.
>>224209188>larping as the barbarians that wrecked the Roman Empire
>>224209421It's because Kievan Rus was founded by Vikings. That's it. So, every dolboslav here, in Russia or in Belarus is using viking aesthetics.
>>224209446thisItaly was invaded by the Lombards shortly afterwards anywayincidentally Justinian's war caused even more damage to Italy than the barbarians
>>224209509*rapefugees that chimped out during its political collapse
>>224209344Nobody in Croatia believes in the Gothic theory, I've seen it maybe 5 times in my life and that's just on the internet from these incel degenerates. The general opinion in Croatia is that we are Slavs and that we probably have some roots from Iran because a Croatian name is not a Slavic name. But that with Iran is not important in terms of identity, we see it as some kind of trivia.
>>224209188-mir is a Slavic name suffix.
>>224209456We are no „collective“, I‘ve nothing in common with your brown genes which you so passionately profess by defending you slavic communist lies.>>224209446The Lombards settled in italy, in the east the Ostrogoths took on the name Croat, possibly from another people in the region, and founded their duches and later kingdom. >The ethnonym Hrvat was derived from the Germanic-Gothic Hrôthgutans, the hrōþ (victory, glory) and gutans (common historical name for the Goths)
>>224209579Not originally. Not here anyhow. Vladimir differs from Zvonimir.
>>224209559How come Sarmatism didn't pop in Croatia?It was the dominant national larp here for few centuries
>>224209608What do you mean, "originally"?Mir is a Slavic word that could be traced back to PIE, it's ancient.
>>224209624This is no larp. Commies killed dudes who wrote in favour of the Gothic origin theory because they knew how dangerous it was to their „south slavic unity project“ that was invaluable for the survival of yugoslavia. And well, you know how that went. Blood doesn‘t mix.
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>>224209689You have his vibes.
>>224209297Migration replacement theory is a modern myth that was born out of scholars observing the decimation of the american Indio and then projecting the same fate on peoples in the past mixed with the natural human inclination to relate with the conquering urfather archetype rather than the native subject who simply adopted foreign customs and languages.See Turks, Egyptians and Hungarians for reference
>>224209608kek jesi retardiran svaka čast
>>224209739Not at all.
>>224209559The only person who believes this is am effeminate 180cm manlet Croattwink. Every serious white identitarian movement (even the ones that accept blondes despite their origin) knows that the genotypic underpinning of Croats and their neighbors is chiefly slavic in nature. His dominant haplogroup is almost assuredly r1a or even more grotesquely, some mutant I derivatice like I-m423. Fucking vomit inducing. Just another day in your typical balkanjeet delusions.
>>224209931>an>derivativeCan't be bothered to type properly against slavscum
>>224209931Check the quotation. It leads to a a post ww2 book.There are 0 (ZERO) Nazi Documents classifying croats as subhuman.
>>224209931>224 leads to a jewbook that isn‘t even a primary source
>>224209188Croats are 50% Anatolian Muslims and 50% Germans. Do Croats live in Mitteleuropean cities? Yes? Do Croats say I fuck your mothers's dog and salaam aleikum while eating a dish barbarically called sarma and wearing a fez? absolutely!
>>224209593Monkey, I already explained to you that I have an 'Aryan' look. Nobody in the world supports the Gothic theory, and you don't even know how it came about. Thomas the Archdeacon, who was a Latin/Roman, used the word Goth literally as an insult, the way we say 'Pajeet'. You fuckin retard.>>224209624Croatia is the birthplace of Pan-Slavism. It was believed in the 19th century that we were descendants of the Illyrians, and for a long time throughout the centuries the word 'Illyrian' or 'Illyria' was the 'international', 'poetic' name for Croatia and the Croatian language. That theory about the Illyrians is both true and not true at the same time. Yes, we are Slavs, but the Illyrians went through a process of assimilation into the Romans, and then the Croats assimilated the Romans. So the Croats also have some of those 'Illyrian' genes. This is especially visible in Herzegovina or the Dalmatian hinterland. People are 2 meters tall, dark-skinned and have square heads. The northern/continental part of the country is more Slavic.
>>224209188most obnoxious poster award
>>224209721>random autist with a German name and Polish surname comes up with shaky theories and mental gymnastics to cope with being a slavo-germ mutt>similar autists take it for granted despite no evidenceMany such cases!
>>224209931You misquoted. The Germans never considered Croats subhumans.>Hitler about Croats>"For example, when Kvaternik stands in front of me (op.a. Slavko Kvaternik, Ustasha ideologue), I see in him everything that Croats are - firm in friendship, and his word binds forever". So, Hitler saw Croatia as a great tourist destination, and Croats as excellent soldiers and reliable friends. However, we are neither Goths nor Germans, but Croats and Slavs. Period.
>>224210091You‘re literally regurgitating commie parolesHow could he use it as an insult?> Some scholars like Nada Klaić considered that Thomas the Archdeacon despised Slavs/Croats and that wanted to depreciate them as barbarians with Goths identification, however, until the time of Renaissance the Goths were seen as noble barbarians compared to Huns, Avars, Vandals, Langobards, Magyars and Slavs, and as such he would not identify them with the Goths.
>>224210236well the Slovenes who were considered racially unfit for racial integration were sent to Croatia, you know, the place where people say wallah, brother and smear qaymaq on kabob
>>224209188Ravenna, home.
>>224210263Never happened plus you are a retard. The exact people that say wallah and shit in slovenia are the ones that came from bosnia to croatia first. We have the same problem. They aren‘t croats.
>>224209764Not that I disagree with your take on that myth as you call it, but slavs arriving to what is now modern Slovenia did find it abandoned and empty. I won't comment on Croatia as I don't know their history, but ours as documented by neighbouring Germanic tribes was that Celts have gone extinct and what little Romans there were here left before the 6th century and arrival of slavs
>>224209188there is nothing faggier than croatians and their super self conscious desparation to be nordic germanic. middling nothing people who have achieved nothing, and will be quickly gone and forgotten as a random slav tribe. just like we talk about the "cherusci" now - no one cares. croatians are faggots super obsessed with their ethno heritage because in reality they are OBSESSED with serbia, in the same really self conscious way that canadian faggots are self conscious about the USAmeanwhile go to croatia half the people there are dirty total balkan trash putting foxes in watermelon husks and shooting eachother's dogs. ya. "civilized dainty nordics". LOL. retard faggots
>>224210286>>224210286no yeah, that's true, Slovenes whom the Nazi authorities deemed racially inferior were sent to Croatia. I mean, you do say taman, fakat, alat, mamurluk, etc., you're a bit...like those refugees that have been recently coming in
>>224209188Ostrogoths by that time were already Romans, so indead to Theodemir, it should be Theodemirus.Remember Princeps Romanum Flavius Theodoricus Magnus, Dux per Italia et Magister Militum per Pars Occidentalis, loyal servant of the Augustus Flavius Zeno Isaurius.
>>224209931>genotypic underpinning of Croats and their neighbors is chiefly slavic in naturealmost half the genetic underpinning is non slavic entirely. it's why croatians don't look like polacks/belarusians, especially in the south. half the genes are a mix of iranian and illyrian/albanian.>>224210236kvaternik was literally half german and hitler spoke of him the way the german ruling class saw croatians: they never interacted with anyone not deep from the halls of power of zagreb as political allies, the germanified ones.
>>224210292>putting foxes in watermelon huskskek what
>>224210390i am croatian and have been there 4 times. when i was 10 me and my cousin were kidnapped by a drunk older relative and shoved into his car. we were surrounded by watermelons and as the car rumbled and bounce they fell over and the lids popped off and foxes were inside the watermelon husks. then later he forced us to carry the watermelons to his home from the car and he did some nd he dropped some they exploded and blamed us and we had to scoop up the dead foxes and put them back into new watermelons and forced us to scoop the watermelon out of the husk and put the foxes back in we cried a lot cause it was scary
>>224210372we likely have some iranic (sarmatian/scythian) traces too, so that in particular wouldn't make us much different, plus White Croats lived near Kraków
>>224210471????but why were there foxes in watermelons? is this some weird balkan custom, like bulgarian dog spinning?
>>224210345Yeah schizo, sure.
>>224210362Theodemir was the first king of the ostrogothic kingdom. They weren‘t romans.>>224210372Germans interacted with croats all the time, r u tripping? They knew we were goths.
>>224210489true but i dont put much stock into the whole "white croats" thing cause modern crotians are descended from such a mix of people its hard to say that "white croats=croats". its a rapemix area. for example in my family i have people that look like big pussy from the sorpanos and others who look like ivan drago from rocky and thats not uncommon, all descended from the same villagebut i take ur point that poles arent a good example to use as pure slavics. that'd be more belarusians
>>224210534we didn't know man. we were just scared. do u know what it's like to be shoved into a car and think ur surrounded by watermelons but then realize ur surrounded by dead foxes. its a croatian thing my dad later told me that is what they did to carry corpses they would find fruits with big enough husks for the animals. my dad doesnt even know his actual birthday - and he was born in croatia in 1960s. because thats how undeveloped it was -they told time by the sun cycles - so its vague. >>224210573>Germans interacted with croats all the time, r u tripping? They knew we were goths.germans interacted with a specific subset of zagreb political croats all the time. we are not goths, at all.
You will never be a real Ostrogoth. You have no warband, you have no mead hall, you have no Germanic haplogroups. You are a homosexual Croatian man twisted by pseudo-history and nationalist cope into a crude mockery of Germanic perfection.All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back, real Nazis mock you. Germans are disgusted and ashamed of you, your northern neighbors laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.Northerners are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of Germanic tradition have allowed them to sniff out Ostrogothic frauds with incredible efficiency. Even Croats who “pass” as Ostrogoths look uncanny and unnatural to a Germanic nationalist. Your bone structure and brachycephaly is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk German twink home with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your fraudulent, fabricated Gothic pedigree.You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself you embody Germanentun, but deep inside you feel the Slavic mentality creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy an reproduction luger, jump into your larpenbunker, press it against your head, and end your miserable existence. Your boyfriend will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment of pretending that you're german. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your Slavic surname, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a Slav is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeletal structure and skull that is unmistakably Slav.This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
>>224210534He‘s a well known looney from some vallachian village>>224210663You probably arent, you spoke quite a bit about your ancestry.
>>224210664Kek, but you‘re still wrong. >your boyfriend will be heartbrokenAll that crap and the part that‘s most untrue is this.
>cr*at balkanoids think they are ostrogothsLMFAO
>>224210828polebro don't listen to this idiot. "i'm" the looney cause i don't spout the ubermensch goth theory like a lil faggot. the village my parents come from is not vallachian its a normal croatian village in bukovica zagora area.
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>>224210923>zagoraYeah, you‘re a vlach. And you family seems actually retarded if any of this shit is even true. Dead foxes and watermelons, what the fuck kekekek. Also your dad doesn‘t know when he was born, that‘s topkek. Even the smallest villages in herzegovina covered basics like this for centuries. You‘re retarded.
>>224209188You really don‘t need to make posts like this. It backfires. The truth will prevail in the end, as it always does. krōta wairþiþ freis
>>224210935I'm somewhere around A though you silly čefur
>>224210968yes zagora, where tons of people are from. every dalmatinci is from zagora oriignally. lika/dalmacija/herzegovina=half of croatia, but you dont wanna tak about that>Dead foxes and watermelons, what the fuck kekekekwhere are u from ? i can't tell whether ur larping to pretend this is unbelievable to preen as civilized or if ur actually surprised>your dad doesn‘t know when he was bornto be clear, he has a pretty good idea but there is a debate between 3 close together dates.and he knows the year
>>224211072>dalmatinci are from zagoraThey literally mock vlachs all the time retard. And even if it were true it would be related to the population that lived there LOONG before you arrived.>dead foxes and watermelonsYou‘re actually retardedAnd you tyoe like so illiterate retard too
>>224211069You‘re baiting me to post it again. I won‘t.
>>224211135>it would be related to the population that lived there LOONG before you arrived.what the fuck are u talking about. and the people in dalmatia who are from the direct coast for more than 2 generations are extremely rare. 95% are descended from recent migrants from inland.
>>224211256Bullshit statistic. Fuck off you retard. Go fuck a watermelon fox or whatever it is you do. I do honestly feel bad for you having such a retarded family.
>>224211290been to omis and talked to a girl from there and she took me to her "original village" inland she told me almost every dalmatian is originally from an inland village. besides islanders and a very small percentage of people in the cities most people who live in modern day dalmatia ARE from villages in the inland countryside are u stupid or what.
>>224210573Ostrogoths and Visigoths were Romans, they were the result of the Getæ mixing with the Hispano-Roman legionaries of Trajan. Flavius Theodoricus was a patricius, only a Roman citizen could be one.And remember the Constitutio Antoniniana, all free men born inside the Imperial borders were Roman citizens, Flavius Theodoricus was born in Pannonia Prima.
I don’t know why anyone would want to be a Slav
>be snowbigger/germanic>try to we wuz as roman>get laughed at>next up try to we wuz as croatLight pigmented scamjeets
>>224211594i agree with this. i don't get it either. shit ethnicity that has never accomplished anything, didn't have writing/nothing. besides russia every slavic country is defined by the degree of influence their more powerful neighbours had over them. pathetic really
>>224211463They were still germanic even if they had Status Civitatis.
>>224211607It isn‘t a phenoytpe thing, thoughever.
Theodoric the great was such a chad
Congrats on establishing yourself as the boards new lolcow
>>224211886No such thing transpired. I‘m one of the last posters that don‘t post bbc and wmaf shit.
>>224211943You're still joining them on the filter list
>>224212006Das ist deine Entscheidung, Hans. Mach was du willst.
>>224211607go back to india you shitskinned good for nothing
>>224210286Well he has a point because during WW2 Croatia was merged with Bosnia (and striped from some very Croatian areas in the littoral)So in a sense the Croatia (NDH) during WW2 was more Bosnia (with Muslims, Serbs and wallahis in areas that were for centuries under Ottoman rule) than Croatia.
>>224212225We were removing them from day one, however.
>>224210263>Brat, bruder, brotherSame word, retard. >>224210372You Vlach monkey, there was no 'German ruling class' in Zagreb. Croatia had its own government, parliament and aristocracy. All those palaces in Zagreb are palaces of the Croatian aristocracy. Kvaternik's mother was German, but that doesn't matter. Hitler obviously knew a lot of Croats, so he used the example of Kvaternik, who was known to Hitler's circle of people, to describe the virtues of the average Croat. Fuck off.
>>224212316Ustaše were allied with Muslims. Pavelić said himself he was fascinated with Islamic culture. Some say he considered Bosniak Muslims the purest Croats lmao
>>224212381Genetically, could be some truth in that statement. Well not abymore, that‘s for sure. He was removing serbs however.Pic not rel.
>>224211607Nigger is filtered now?
Genetically we're closer to ancient Macedonians than Croats are to ancient Germanics.
>>224212340>Brat, bruder, brother>Same word, retard.Not him, he's kind of a schizo baiter, but his point was people saying 'brother' regardless of the language. It's extremely brown coded
>>224212457While I don't deny that Ustaše tried to genocide Serbs I don't think they did a good job, else there wouldn't be Serbs left to start another conflict in the 90s. Some were probably brought from Serbia after WW2 like the gypsies but I doubt it was enough to completely repopulate parts of Croatia that were Orthodox/ Vlach/ Serb since the Ottomans in the Krajina - Military Frontier parts, in other words there were plenty of Serbs still living across Bosnia and Croatia after the war.
>>224212527Topkek>>224212557It is terribly browncoded.
>>224212565Imagine if all thise that perished had children. There‘d be 3 times as many by the 90s.
>>224212557I agree. I never use that word, nor do Croats in general. Serbs have this habit of saying that everyone is their 'brother' and that they have 'brotherly nations' (Russians, Romanians, Greeks...).
>>224209456>Prestani nas brukat kao kolektiv pedercino.Kek i bet the guy is a jeet or russian VPN, we have one like that too
>>224212691Yeah, I‘ve never seen someone defend being slavic so hard. Literal idiot.
>>224212527You simply need to get back to the framework of Bulgaria, the idea of calling yourself after a people that died out 2000+ years ago is insane. I don't even understand how you can look at yourself in the mirror every morning.
>>224212719We had a jeet/rusnigger who still posts from time to time under PL flag who makes up shit that there are niggers and jeets everywhere here and that every single thing was made by germans, when contested he uses deepl to answer in shitty polish with „xD” and if pressed hard vpns come to his aid, like a german, spanish and japanese one and all those flags are known for having both rusniggers and jeetshits vpn on them very often.
>>224212691Do you think I'm a Pajeet or a Russian because I say that Croats are Slavs? Are you fucking retarded?
>>224212801Vpniggers gonna be vpniggers
>>224212847POOOOST EYEEES AND HAAAIR YOU BROOOOWN GITTTTYou oppose anything that excludes you. Even the truth. And you do it because you‘re a nigger.
>>224212847No the ostrogoth sissy guy is
>>224212967>a fucking pole
>>224213042Id stick you on it faggot vpnnigger
>>224213064Shut the fuck up and go back to posting about your slavic shithole
>>224212691During the last year I was almost convinced that the guy was some butthurt Bosnian or Serb trolling under the Croatian flag. Previously I've only seen Serbian propaganda and their internet memes describe Croats as being like this.
>>224212883I'm not an idiot for putting my pictures on the internet. Secondly, it doesn't prove anything. What you're asking for is like some nigger telling you that 2+2=4, and you telling him to show his hand. And since he's black, he's wrong and 2+2 isn't 4. That's idiotic logic. All science agrees that Croats are Slavs. Even if we were once Goths, we can't be anymore because we speak a Slavic language and because we are on average much darker than Germans because we interbred with the 'Romans' who lived on the Adriatic coast in the 7th century. Get professional help and get off the internet.>>224212967AAAAAAAAA---AAAAALLLRIIIIIIIGHTYYYYYYYYYY THEEEEEEEEEENNNN
>>224212577You think I'm lying?I'm just trying to make a point about how gothic we wuzzery is even more egregious than our thing. Sarmatians/Steppe Iranics are even more genetically distant btw.
>>224212759Nowadays I lean towards your point more than I did back in the day, and as much as it is an unpopular position I think we should try to do something with Bulgaria, maybe even some union type deal like Scotland in the UK, but only if they give us Pirin Macedonia and we don't give an inch of land to the shqipgroids.
>>224210372Wrong. You're either confusing genotype with phenotype or citing decades long outdated and debunked genetic research. Croats and other Balkanjeets have 60-70% of their DNA directly inherited from Slavs. What are three main haplogroups for western balkanjeets?>I2a (35-60%) Slavic>E1b (15-30%) ANF>r1a (15-25%) Slavic>I2a was for a long time incorrectly believed to originate from a natively dinaric substrate that assimilated the genome of early Slavs. More recent research has definitely proven it's origin in Ukraine via the founder effect. >Older research considered that the high frequency of this subclade in the South Slavic-speaking populations to be the result of "pre-Slavic" paleolithic settlement in the region. Peričić et al. (2005) for instance placed its expansion to have occurred "not earlier than the YD to Holocene transition and not later than the early Neolithic".[2][3][18][19] However, the prehistoric autochthonous origin of the haplogroup I2 in the Balkans is now considered as outdated,[nb 1] as already Battaglia et al. (2009) observed highest variance of the haplogroup in Ukraine, and Zupan et al. (2013) noted that it suggests it arrived with Slavic migration from the homeland which was in present-day Ukraine.But no, go ahead and tell me this is propaganda and somehow you guys are Germans.>I2a1a2b-L621 is typical of the Slavic populations, being highest in Southeastern European regions of Bosnia-Herzegovina and South Croatia (>45%),[3][13][14] in Croats (37.7-69.8%), Bosniaks (43.53-52.17%), and Serbs (36.6-42%)—often called "Dinaric".[15] It has the highest variance and concentration in Eastern Europe (i.e., Ukraine, Southeastern Poland, Belarus).
>>224213238Blah blah macedonian noises whatever those even are.>>224213222Not even reading this, brownoid. You are entirely irrelevant anyways and your thoughtkin will be forgotten by history.
>>224213379>Croats and other Balkanjeets have 60-70% of their DNA directly inherited from Slavs. i said, specifically, that almost half of the DNA is non slavic. You then say that 60%-70% of dna is slavic. i accept that. 30%-40% is a huge chunk of DNA inheritance from a non slav source. ur arguing against the wind stupid. i am full croat and have never been confused as a russian or a pole. always greek/turk/italian/something like that. and many are like me
>>224213379Can you read, my son? The studies done on croats are terribly bad. Not to mention that my claim isn‘t that there are bo slavs here, but rather that they aren‘t the original croats.
>>224212340hitler cited kvaternik as his example of a typical croat that he loves when he is half fucking german. and ur using that as an example of "SEE HITLER LOVED US".
>>224213537Hitler had a bunch of other quotes about croats. All were good.
>>224213391Take your meds schizo
by what croatschizo says you'd think that croatia is part of scandinavia
>>224209188The way the world is currently going prob not. Maybe if a big war o algo happens again.
>>224213578He also said he wanted to germanize croatians and that croatians would serve as loyal dogs to "police the reichs marshes". that's how he saw us. And you fucking pathetic lapdogs look at him with puppy eyes and say YESSSS HERR HITLER MASTER THANK UUUU WE WOULD LOVE TO POLICE YOUR MARSHES AND GET BITTEN BY MOSQUITOS WHILE YOU SEND HORDES OF GERMAN SETTLERS TO BAN THE CROATIAN LANGUAGE AND GERMANIZE US. Fucking pukefuck hitler anyway. he invaded poland after making a deal over sudetanland. betrayed his word.
>>224213222It's embarrassing and him claiming he's german is no different than picrel claiming he's European when it's convenient. I can run my Plotthound's DNA through 200k SNP microarrays and no amount of me screaming online that it's a wolf will make it one. But it's ok larping is fun and flailing over genetics is a common trope among the mongrelized subraces. Live your myth on the basketweaving forum!
>>224213578Speaking of brown coded, isn't treating Hitler quotes like some religious text also brown coded? Like those arabs who post that ryan gosling looking guy that was the Palestinian official that was with Hitler for some reason idk.
>>224213666Götaland is where the Goths come from, achsthually.
>>224213676>loyal dogsHe said faithful auxilliaries you fucking serbshit. I‘m done responding to you.>>224213684I‘m not german
>>224213810"faithful auxiliaries" = loyal dogs. same thing just a politically correct way of saying it. He saw us as being worthy of "policing german marshes". Fucking hilarious that you cling to that and feel pride about it. LOL. The level of cuckdom u exhibit is shameful and your parents failed you.
>>224213703I wasn‘t even the first to mention them.
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>>224213890>weYou‘re disgusting genetic waste. A serb vlach mutt. Your nose is probably wide and your head the shape of an bouncy castle.
>>224213770African Americans are more White genetically than you are Scandinavian Gothic.
>>224213966not serb, barely know what a "vlach" is. i am a croatian through and through, just a smart one so in ur peabrained german worshipping mind because im smart i must not be croatian. it doesn't compute for you. i am very handsome also probably way more handsome than you desu if u saw a pic of me u would be so angry at how chad i look. personally i believe its because i got lucky and inherited the facial dna of the original iranic croats DNA (the ones who were darius the greats guardsmen)
>>224213810your ancestors:>As Nazi Germany collapsed in the spring of 1945, the Axis-allied Independent State of Croatia (NDH)—a fascist puppet state—also fell. Fearing severe retribution from the victorious communist Yugoslav Partisans led by Josip Broz Tito, massive columns of people fled north toward Austria.>These columns were primarily made up of the NDH armed forces (the Ustaše militia and the Croatian Home Guard), but also included Slovene collaborationist forces, and tens of thousands of fleeing civilians. Their primary objective was to reach the British occupation zone in Austria and surrender to the Western Allies rather than the Partisans.>The British ordered the fleeing forces to surrender to the Yugoslav Partisans, threatening to use force if they did not comply. Outmaneuvered and out of options, the NDH commanders agreed to surrender to the Partisans on May 15, 1945. >Tens of thousands of the surrendered soldiers and civilians were summarily executed without trial. Mass killings took place at various sites in Slovenia (such as the Tezno forest and Kočevski Rog) and along the march route. Many others died from starvation, exhaustion, disease, and brutal treatment in prisoner-of-war and forced labor camps. The exact number of casualties remains a subject of intense historical debate and political controversy in the region, with estimates historically ranging from tens of thousands to heavily inflated figures used for political purposes. Modern historical consensus generally places the death toll in the tens of thousands (typically between 50,000 and 80,000).
>>224209188Sowiemir, sowiedir.
>>224213920I'm just saying that if someone were to hate brown coded things but also do brown coded things than that someone would be considered low IQ.
>>224213361You are Bulgarians, there is absolutely no reason for you to have any autonomy or anything. Macedonia is a region named after an extinct people. You cannot be Macedonian nationally, just as I cannot be nationally Pannonian even though I am from the former Roman province of Pannonia. The communists successfully brainwashed you and inserted a bunch of Croatian or Serbian words into you just to make you different from Bulgarians, but they created a national identity for you out of nothing so that you don't assimilate into Serbs. Now you are halfway there and you don't know where to go next. Bulgarians are not living their golden years now, but historically they are a great nation that had an empire and a culture. Cyrillic is, after all, their script. By entering Bulgaria, you would become part of some bigger story, and you would prevent the Albanians from eating you.
>>224214074Tito was too peaceful and forgiving actually, if it were up to the Serbs there would be millions more dead.
>>224213537Next to this retarded Goth larper and schizo Slovenian, you are definitely the worst and stupidest poster on 4chan. Kys
>>224214206if i was in tito's place, i would have arranged to deport all croats and slovenes in the kirghiz ssr to live out their iranian larping there in excange for nukes
>>224214206Only that you forgot to mention that there were Chetniks there who were also killed. You are trying to portray the situation as if all Croats were in the Ustasha, which is simply not true - we had a civil war and Croats were overrepresented in the partisans (26% of the population of Yugoslavia, 30% of the fighters). Then explain to me how and why 'millions' should be killed. In addition, the Ustaše crimes were exaggerated in order to extract reparations from Germany.
>>224214333Yugoslavia was an irrelevant shithole, Croats held power because communism came to Yugoslavia, like everything else that came to Yugoslavia, came through Croatia. If the Croatian communists had decided to deport Croats and Slovenes, all of you other welfare recipients would have starved to death.
>>224213484>arguing against the windI know you're Croatian so I will write in easier to understand terms: genetic research has proven that Balkanjeets are more Slav than not. Even 30% ANF admixture is enough to make at least half of you guys look near eastern since the genes are dominant. This is why Croattwink never argues on the basis of genetics, and only argues on the basis of bravado and larp.>based on 146 samples, confirmed that the spread of Slavic language and identity was because of large movements of people, both males and females, with specific Eastern European ancestry and that "more than half of the ancestry of most peoples in the Balkans today comes from the Slavic migrations, with around a third Slavic ancestry even in countries like Greece where no Slavic languages are spoken today".[204][205] The early medieval Slavic admixture was calculated to be 66.5±2.7% in Croats.https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/12/231207161343.htmhttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10752003/
>>224213938Goths weren‘t scandinavians after they left scandinavia you nonce.
>>224214635>146 samples.>Samplesize: 2 guys
>>224210236>>224213578hitler's words are to croat nationalists as muhammad's hadiths are to muslims lol
>>224214838Not a croat nationalist in the usual, false sense. Also I wasn‘t the one to bring Hitler up.
>>224213810>I'm not GermanNor are you Goth
>Where is the horse and the rider? >Where is the horn that was blowing? >They have passed like rain on the mountains>Like wind in the meadow.>The days have gone down in the west. >Behind the hills, into shadow. >How did it come to this?
>>224214959Nice map, did a redditor give it to you?
>>224209225The Pleter is of lombardic influence. Kinda makes sense actually.
>>224215031There‘s just as much archeological evidence for croats being goths originally as there is for the slavic theory. Were it not for the commies there‘d be even more excavations and studies.
>>224214838Wrong, that moron said that the Germans considered Croats subhumans. This was a quote that refuted that. Nothing more. Croats are not Nazis and Hitler fans, that's one of the stupidest memes on the internet.
>>224215201The memes are pretty true tho.
>>224214716>Too smallHere's 700+ samples:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27279290/>In the first group of populations selected for comparison with the population of Croatia by using reduced 17 Y-STR set of markers included 20 populations. The lowest genetic diversity was observed between the currently analyzed population of Croatia and previously published results for the population of Bosnia and Herzegovina (Rst=0.0076, P=0.0002) and the population of Serbia (Rst=0.0186, P<0.0001). When compared with the present results, other populations with low genetic diversity values include those from Bulgaria (Rst=0.0144, P<0.0001), Ukraine (Rst=0.0195, P P<0.0001), Slovenia (Rst=0.0204, P<0.0001), Hungary (Rst=0.0238, P<0.0001), Greece (Rst=0.0241, P<0.0001), North Macedonia (Rst=0.0375, P<0.0001), Italy (Rst=0.0659, P<0.0001), Albania (Rst=0.0728, P<0.0001), Czech Republic (Rst=0.0767, P=0.000), and Austria (Rst=0.0795, P<0.0001). The studied population showed the greatest genetic distance from the populations of Ireland (Rst=0.3178, P<0.0001), Estonia (Rst=0.1877, P<0.0001), Lithuania (Rst=0.1706, P<0.0001), Belgium (Rst=0.1429, P<0.0001), Norway (Rst=0.1270, P<0.0001), Poland (Rst=0.1216, P<0.0001), Sweden (Rst=0.1209, P<0.0001), and Germany (Rst=0.1036, P<0.0001).100-1000 is a completely normal representative sample for generic testing. It certainly holds a lot more weight than your pseudo-anthropoligical conjecture.You are a young stupid Twink who does Hetalia style larp. You are too green to have this sort of discussion; stick to posting Croatia edits on soybooru and flirting with grown men on discord. Anyone serious about race and anthropology laughs you out of the building.
>>224214203>no reason for you to have any autonomy or anythingOk maybe like Vojvodina then.
>>224215105>people lived here before my people displaced the entirety of their Y-dna, therefore we are those people because I dug up a box of theirs o algo >n-n-noo!! Don't plot my DNA against those same people...yamero!!!
>>224215257>hetaliaWhat‘s that? Pics seem cute>samplesNigger1. we had 2 huge population shifts in the 20th century with millions emigrating and a hundreads of thousands immigrating.2. were the samples from all the regions with background info on the subjects? This ties into my first point.3. i‘m not saying the current populace is germanic. I‘m saying the original one bearing the name croat was.
>>224215369What of the I1s we do have? Where do you think they came from?
Feels good to be Longobard-Ostrogoth
>>224215257Also>flirting with grown menI‘m not gay, for the 50th time.
>>224215369I don't think you can convince him he's too dented and demented/ unmedicated to live in reality.>>224215105Are you still under the control of the commies now? Go and dig and find the Gothic remains.
>>224215466It sure does.
>>224215493The time isn‘t ripe. But it will be done.
>>224215393>At the fortified settlement of Brekinjova Kosa (Bojna, Croatia), two adult men dated to 770–890 cal CE were buried together in the same pit, the younger one (I26748) with healed skull trauma and with 97% Eastern European-related ancestry and the older one (I26749) with ancestry entirely deriving from Balkan Iron Age populations. Additionally, at the site of Dvorac (Nuštar, Croatia), a woman (I28390; Grave 52) with ∼90% Eastern European ancestry had a son (I34800; Grave 50-A; 64% of this ancestry)You niggers were even more Slavic before you were mongrelized by mixing with substrates. The population shifts have nothing to do with the fact that virtually displaced any remnants of the so called "ostrogothic" genetic remnants that had already fled the Balkan peninsula due to Avar and hunnic incursions in the 4th-6th centuries.>samplesYou can read the methodologies yourself. You have dozens of genetic tests that all arrive at similar conclusions based on relative proximity of the sample sites. Your claim that the samples are tainted because of other balkanshits polluting the said samples due to migration does not change the fact that your blood and theirs was polluted to begin with, vis a vis ancestral samples from 7th, 8th, 9th century and so on and so forth as the commies snortpig would say. Q.E.D.>original nameThe entirety of your posting history on 4chanarchive days otherwise. I'm not even going to get into this, grow up.
>>224215431Re-read my previous posts, I listed the specific subclade."I" is an ancient haplogroup, and the variants split off tens of thousands of years ago, and the sun variants of those more recently so. A Sardinian and a Swede have I-variants, but that doesn't imply close genetic proximity. Indians have a different subclade of r1a than Slavs do, etc, etc.
>>224210577>its a rapemix areaall places are>pure slavicsthere is no such thing>that'd be more belarusiansnah, east slavs got vikang'd and mongol'd
>>224210664>you’ll buy an reproduction luger, jump into your larpenbunkerkekd
>>224209593>The ethnonym Hrvat was derived from the Germanic-Gothic Orangutanswell that may explain some things
>>224215889>posting historyWhat? I‘m saying the Ostrogoths took that name upon themselves. Its etymology is germanic.>even more slavicNigga, you do realize that we had a ban on digging up any bodies that might not be slavic until recently?
>WE>WUZ>GOTHS>AND SHIEEEET
>>224216144Alright, I kekked.>>224215994You entirely misunderstood my point.
>>224216236I guess Slavonians and Kajkavian area look Whiter but doesn't mean that they're goths.
>>224216488You have no idea what you‘re talking about.
>>224216535You're not Gothic.
>>224216559You‘re gas station attendee ass‘ opinion is of no matter.
what does croatia think of its neighbours?
