in a way its kind of a crime against humanity when you think about how many people especially in remote regions grow up with american/canadian friends and culture and social expectations and behaviours entirely online but have zero access to actual helpful resources to get them the right to actually move to usa/canada. some even have fully formed north american accents
it's their own fault for not socializing more within their own cultures
>>224264677what if they're less accepted in their "own cultures" or just simply find the canadian/american culture more their own?
>>224264608>right to actually move to usa/canadaThat's not a right, and nothing is really stopping them outside of some basic effort.
>>224264724you have absolutely no contact with how inhumane the actual system of moving to usa/canada is even for a "neurotypical" person
>>224264724you didn't understand the sentence.
>>224264701>less accepted in their "own cultures"somebody who doesn't fit in the culture they grew up in probably isn't going to do well in a foreign country that they only think they know from movies, music, and other media. they might seem cool and exotic to locals by virtue of having a different accent but it still requires an amount of social intelligence that they probably don't have. it's like weebs who travel to japan thinking they would thrive more in that culture only to find that everybody still thinks they're a loser.
>>224265227that's a lot of assumptions you're making
>>224265227as if normies aren't majorly dictated by marvel memes and behaviours eh
>>224265227"socially intelligent behaviour" varies dramatically by culture and region.it really could be that they're more socially intelligent in usa/canada than in a non-american/canadian locale.
sadcumE leaf thread
>>224264608Hey kat you're an asshole for ignoring me you know that right? You're kind of a piece of shit.
>>224265451social intelligence is largely being able to intuit what is socially acceptable behavior in your current environment. someone who can't manage this in their home country will most likely struggle in a new country. if you don't understand this you're probably autistic. >>224265296even normies have barely cared about marvel since 2019, aside from spider-man sequels. if anything marvel has kind of ruined the movie industry since people are sick of capeshit and there's nothing else to see because those movies usually takes up 90% of screens in every theater. just a couple decades ago it was normal for people to go to the movies several times a year or even multiple times a month, but in 2025 half of the country didn't go to the theater a single time.
>>224265706I see your modality
>>224265736Piece. Of. Shit.
>>224265706>social intelligence is largely being able to intuityeah such as when the local culture/social behaviours aren't fit for your own and it's best to just isolate from it and live remotely in usa/canada through the internet
>>224264608Gib green card now
>>224265706>social intelligence is largely being able to intuit what is socially acceptable behavior in your current environment. >someone who can't manage this in their home country will most likely struggle in a new country.do you think all countries are the same? of course someone more individualistic won't fit in japan, that doesn't mean they're autistic or socially inept.sometimes you just don't fit because you're just different from what it's socially stablished, and you find common ground somewhere else
>>224265582>>224265750Assuming you're talking to me, what do you expect from a person who's too depressed to truly interact with anyone and can't even log into discord for the past 2 weeks.
>>224266067You never say hi to me back when i say hi to you on 4chan. Perhaps 50 times i've been ignored by now. It's rude.
>>224265781the other half of social intelligence is being able to react appropriately from what you've intuited. most cultures have a concept of having different faces for different environments, or code switching. it's like the concept of a persona which is fundamentally malleable. but autistic people are less flexible with more rigid personalities. >>224265855i think somebody who grew up in an individualistic society is more likely to be individualistic and if they have issues fitting in their own country it probably comes from other issues that would make assimilating to a collectivist society difficult. and while it's normal for people to have preferences for individualism or collectivism, i think an individualistic person should still be able to function normally in a collectivist society without it causing them mental anguish, especially in modern times where most of the world is pretty globalized. i mean i grew up in a collectivist culture and definitely prefer that but I get by in the US just fine.
>>224266192>i mean i grew up in a collectivist culture and definitely prefer that but I get by in the US just fine.why not move back then if you prefer it
>>224266169howdy then
>>224266394work opportunities, family ties, and there are some hobbies i enjoy that i wouldn't have access to in africa.
>>224266532you must be very privileged
>>224266563yes, and i enjoy my privileges very much. once i retire i think i will buy a house back home and split my time between the countries.
>>224266532>there are some hobbies i enjoy that i wouldn't have access to in africa.what would those be?
>>224264608>SAAR I AM JUST LIKE YOU I DON'T HAVE INDIAN ACCENT MADARCHOD PLIS GIVE ME VISA SO I CAN IMMIGRATE TO UR COUNTRY AND SCAM ELDERLY PEOPLE SAAR
>>224266489Oh. Thanks, I'm alright. How about you?
>>224266192i just put individualism and collectivism as a generic example, but there are many other things that may cause you discomfort the place you're currently in. environment plays a role but some other things are deeply rooted in your dna, saying you don't fit just because you're socially inept it's just oversimplifying things, in fact i'd say you're way more "socially intelligent" if you can function and pretend in an environment that it wasn't made for you
>>224266624there are a lot of little things. movie theaters are smaller, rarer, and don't get all the new releases. restaurant options are less diverse. you can't buy sports cars and other luxury goods unless you can afford to import them. if you like attending live sports matches it's mostly just going to be football(soccer(futbol)). internet quality is shit. >>224266826i think my points can broadly apply to most reasons that somebody might prefer to live in a different culture. it's not like we live in ancient times where moving countries will give you a practically alien experience. differences in culture are not that crazy today. >in fact i'd say you're way more "socially intelligent" if you can function and pretend in an environment that it wasn't made for youi mean, that's what i'm trying to say. but the situation OP is talking about is regarding people who can't even function like this.
>>224267044why should a person be forced to adapt a mask?
>>224264608that's meI've been applying online for jobs in Anglo countries for years but it's hopeless. They have too many immigrants already it seems. It's not a tragedy because I'm not looking to move for economic reasons but I would be much happier if I could move
>Another Kat threadPass
>>224269030you didn't "pass" you literally opened and posted in this thread.
>>224264608proximity to white people is not a human right
>>224266686>SAR U ARE DALIT I AM BRAHMIN I DESERVE TO LIVE IN CANADA BENCHOD BITCH
>>224264608as much as I liked Canada from my visits there, I think the culture of smalltalk would drive me crazy after a while. yes people generally seemed friendlier and more accepting than the average dutch person but sometimes you want to get a coffee without telling your whole life-story to some clerk that just wants a higher tip.
>>224264608also you seem to forget that even the most sheltered kids don't grow up in a vacuum and are still affected by their local environment. they still have family that they interact with every day. They go to school and even if they have no friends they're still surrounded by their own culture more than American culture even if they interact more with Americans on Discord or whatever. they're not living it.
>>224273224>sometimes you want to get a coffee without telling your whole life-story to some clerk that just wants a higher tip.your cultural distortion lens is showing
>>224273761yes that's exactly my point, I'm affected by the culture I grew up in.
>>224273761Why did you change your message? You seem upset.
>>224273850clarification
>>224273224>culture of smalltalkthis is a huge myth desu
>>224274132have you been outside of canada? here you can walk through a city, visit tons of shops and bars and, unless you initiate a "praatje" yourself, nobody will have any kind of conversation with you except for what's strictly necessary. there was way more smalltalk in canada than I'm used to over here.
>>224264608Americans ans canucks are all freaks. They're better off in their dirt huts surrounded by people who don't have internet-based psychosis.
>>224273224That's just being a foreigner anywhere. I was one of the few white people living in a city in asia for a few years and everyone was always asking me the same set of questions everywhere I went. It got pretty annoying after a while.