On 19 August 1961, a driverless Volvo PV544 crashed into the docked submarine HSwMS Bävern in Lysekil, Sweden. It is the only known collision between a car and a submarine
>>224306518Who fucking cares
>>224306575history cares, mahmoud al bibi...
>>224306575This. Lysekil isn't even in Finland. This is not a Fun Finland Fact
>>224306617it's a fascinating fact of Sweden that you have the only traffic accident between car and submarine in the world. an autonomously driving car at that
>>224306575the value, and indeed the interestingeness of each human life story truly dissipates heavily the further south you go. to your dysfunctional society, this is just tuesday. no one would bat an eye if this is was china or nigeria. no one. because the value of human life of earth per capita decreases by latitude
>On October 27, 1981, a Soviet Whiskey-class submarine ran around near the Swedish naval base of Karlskrona, a sensitive area off-limits to foreign nationals. The crew was interrogated by Swedish officials and its logbooks and instruments examined. A Swedish vessel also secretly ran radiation meters to test for the presence of nuclear weapons on the sub. The Soviet crew and sub were released after one week after maintaining that they went off-course by accident. Sweden maintained that the sub was there to conduct espionage activities. Moscow did not admit that the sub had nukes on it and countered that the Swedes had been the party guilty of espionage.>In a 1990 interview, the boat's political officer Vasily Besedin admitted that some of the missiles on the sub were armed with nuclear warheads and the crew had been ordered to destroy them if Swedish forces had tried to take control of it.
>>224306977Swedish win, Soviet fail. There was also that time when Swedes suspected a Soviet sub on their coast (which was actually there) but they never decided that they had factual proof of it
>>224306977and again, because Russia extends further south than Sweden, the value of a Swede is that of a lottery jackpot compared to the value of a Russian which by comparison is a returnable bottle. That is unfortunately the tradeoff of ever larping a world power
Fun swedish fact, we’ve been warring with russia for over 800 years and they’ve never been able to conquer or even successfully invade Sweden proper during all this time, in fact no one has. Fortress Svea still stands as it always has
>>224307364as the we wuz kangs of the north it is now your responsibility to maintain air superiority over the northeastern flank of nato
>>224307364>and they’ve never been able to conquer or even successfully invade Sweden proper during all this timehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Northern_War#1719%E2%80%931721:_SwedenHa no they did raid and pillage Sweden's core territory in the later phases of the GNR although were unable to take Stockholm.
>>224306977Sweden was hardcore back then and had a formidable military but they dismantled most it after the Berlin Wall fell.
>>224307663the fag will learn the warrior spirit again
>>224307663Finland also significantly downscaled their armed forces in the 90s and experienced a decade-long economic depression as a result.
>>224307145My dad told me about when the SAAB pilots and MiG pilots were patrolling the border, eventually they started getting to know each other and do tricks. The swedish pilot did a dive and pulled up just before the surface of the water, the russian pilot did the same thing but the plane couldn't quite handle the same g forces so it crashed. I don't know if that actually happened thoughever
>>224307905the 1990's depression was all about the collapse of the soviet union, not about "downscaling the armed forces", which never happened anywhere near to the extent of the rest of europe
>>224307943well, soviets only learned to make planes that could handle more physical abuse than the pilot during the fourth generation of jet fighters (MiG-29, Su-27 and such)
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>>224307943Russian aircraft to this day...those who've traveled on Aeroflot say it's quite scary, you can hear metal twisting and squealing sounds when the plane is in flight.
>>224307997MiG-29 was the one that the USAF managed to acquire a domestic Soviet model from Moldova in the 90s which had the full compliment of top-secret equipment that was omitted from export models.
>>224308088must have been disappointing
>>224308127>>224308088any time the US military managed to get ahold of Soviet aircraft they found them to be 20 years behind Western ones in the engines and avionics
>>224308205during the cold war, yes. now it's closer to 40 years
>>224308088LOL there was a Russian anon on here once who said the MiG-29 was junk and its specs were drawn up by senile WWII vet generals.
>>224308205They never performed well over the Cold War when engaged against Western fighter aircraft, not in the Middle Eastern conflicts or in Vietnam. Of course those were export models flown by non-Russian pilots and the domestic Soviet models never really got to be in combat. The MiG-15 did well at first in the Korean War until the USAF figured them out and how to counter them.
>>224308256even as a dogfighter, which a WW2 person might have designed a jet fighter to be, the F-16 absolutely teabags the MiG-29. first of all, you can actually see out of the cockpit of an F-16
>>224308339India used to mostly use Soviet equipment until post-Cold War when they began buying more Western gear.
>>224308339you have to take into account how steeply the value of a human life decreases the further south you get or the more populated a country you get. the value of an asian back in those days was the value you'd get for returning a glass coca-cola bottle
>>224308420also Obama lifted the ancient arms embargo on Vietnam back in 2015 as they were looking to acquire Western gear to counter China. though i remember in Fox News comment sections a few senile boomers complaining "I didn't get my dick shot off in Da Nang so that Muslim traitor could sell weapons to our enemies."
>>224306977>While the vessel was being held at Karlskrona, the base detected other ships in the area. An alarm was sounded as it was believed the Soviet sub crew had radioed for reinforcements and it momentarily seemed as if the bombs were about to drop as Swedish aircraft and warships were scrambled. However, they found that they'd merely detected two West German cargo ships and it was a false alarm.
>>224308256afaik he said they insisted on twin engines for redundancy purposes or something like that
>>224308372>first of all, you can actually see out of the cockpit of an F-16>The cockpit has conventional dials, with a head-up display (HUD) and a Shchel-3UM helmet mounted display, but no HOTAS capability. Emphasis seems to have been placed on making the cockpit similar to the earlier MiG-23 and other Soviet aircraft for ease of conversion, rather than on ergonomics. Nonetheless, the MiG-29 does have substantially better visibility than most previous Soviet jet fighters, thanks to a high-mounted bubble canopy.if it was that bad imagine how the visibility in earlier fighter was like
>>224308088The export model had simplified avionics and couldn't carry nuclear weapons.
>>224308088This was in 1997. They bought 34 MiG-29s from Moldova to prevent Iran from acquiring them (as they were interested in the aircraft) and while most were export models, the Air Force did obtain one of the domestic versions which was the real prize.
>>224308890*several actually and one reason was because they didn't want Iran to get fighter jets that could carry nukes
>>224308890they were ahead of you with the helmet-mounted cuing system back in those days which caused apparent panic in your defense industry lobbyists at least. but in hindsight that's questionable given the POV limits of the soviet infrared missile of the time
>>224308256it was designed to be extremely maneuverable which does indicate a WWII dogfighting mentality.
>The USSR exhibited a MiG-29 at the 1989 Paris Air Show as part of the glasnost "openness" initiative. It was the first time the normally secretive Soviet state had displayed combat aircraft at an air show since the 1930s.[8]
