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my career imc is being a forklift operator. Not even a good one
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>>224306724
Well at least you have a job
I have 15 scientic publications with 400 citations being top 5% of phds. I cant find a job. Not even an interview
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>>224306854
what field are you in?
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>>224306854
what did you get your phd in
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In Australia forklift operator is a job a lot of young non-professional men want to have but it's very competitive
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>>224306896
>>224306925
Bioinformatics ans molecular genetics
I'm applying on dev/ai engineer roles because bioinformatician roles are non existant
In fact, I found 2 bioinformatician roles and got no reply
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>>224306724
got an email from indeed yesterday for the only remote job i've ever qualified for, but i didn't have a CV or resume ready so i made one late last night and when i woke up today the listing was gone.
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>>224306970
For how long have you been unemployed?
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>>224306724
Why even try in Europe when there's barely any difference between a McDonald's worker and a doctor?
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>>224306987
This is EXACTLY the kind of shit I'm talking about when I say that it's impossible to actually lose in the USA and if you do you're just a retard. Here it is, the complete retard. Even life on tutorial mode is too hard for these beings lol.
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>>224306970
have you done wet lab work before?

what kind of biotech companies are there in Brazil today? do you have a startup scene there?

can you take a look at the following startups and let me know what you think of them:

https://www.checkerspot.com/

https://spiber.inc/en

https://cellsense.bio/

the biotech food space seems to be a colossal failure at this point, do you think its possible for the biotech materials industry to succeed??
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>>224307278
what are you talking about?
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>>224306970
Go to community college, learn how to run a corporation, then start one that profits off of your domain knowledge
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>>224306724
I'm afraid of that and I haven't even started working yet
How over is it if you're gonna work from 9 to 5 in a temporary job?
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I work for a moving company, it has to be one of the shittiest jobs, you're just carrying heavy as shit furniture awkwardly up stairs all day and the moment you drop and break something you're fired, I think half of my coworkers are on meth
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>>224306724
I went to uni just to move out of the sticks and never have to work in retail again. 10 years later I had to move back to the sticks and ended up working in retail, with all signs pointing to this being as far as I'll get in life. I can't really complain about having a job in today's economy, I like my colleagues and boss and the salary is decent enough to pay the bills, but I think about pic rel alot. I saved it ironically in 2014 and it ended up becoming reality for me. Life is rough innit.
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>>224307779
Surely, there must be something you can do with your degree that isn’t retail.
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>>224307779
let me guess, meme degree, right?
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it's all about charisma and networking in your uni years. you're in a normie race, so either act like one, or literally become one.
your 'tistic selves and your degrees don't mean shit if your overall persona boils down to a nuisance that everyone wants to avoid.
(obviously there's some leeway when you're really talented but let's be honest - you're probably not all that special)
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>>224307779
I think you're a retard for just picking a degree depending on vibes and how you feel instead of metrics that matter like demand, salary, future development, etc...

A career change is the best thing you can do when stuck in a low paying dead end job, but it can also easily be the worst thing to do if you're an idiot with no plan just picking a degree because you saw an ad.
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>>224307960
If there is I wasn't able to find it, and I spent the better part of a decade searching.
>>224307994
Oh yeah, absolute meme, worse than philosophy, I'm embarrassed to even say what it was anonymously. Still, I got straight A's and I think it's unfair that I couldn't even get some stupid government office job with it.
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>>224307662
bro please get new job
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>>224308079
unironically the only smart thing is to pick the thing you actually want to do

doing some boring shit for 60 years aint that litty
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>>224308108
Keep looking.
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>>224306724
i got international relations and diplomacy related degrees from russell gorup unis because my dream was to work in an embassy, or an ngo when i was 18

nobody told me at the time that those jobs are fake jobs that rich people give to their retarded nephews and nieces

now i do customer service for a company, where i basically get yelled by foreigners (mostly romanians, gypsies, pakis, africans) mad that i'm not letting them scam even more public money than they already are

i cope by writing bad ]ournalistic pieces in my spare time, that i never show anyone
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>>224308174
you are under the assumption that you will get a job working as whatever useless thing you got a degree at.
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>>224308174
Try being unemployed for 60 years or being poor for 60 years anon, talk to us about how much better it was than working a good job because you were doing your passion.

No offense but I assume you're 15 with this kind of mentality. When you grow up you realize how easy it is to just fall and lose a lot and being comfortable is enough of a victory to satisfy you. It can be boring, but that's life and you learn to deal with it, it's not like you need to be stimulated 24/7. Plenty of jobs out there IN THE RIGHT FIELDS that offer a lot of advantages like a good salary, flexible work schedule (3 to 4 days work week, more overtime, earlier retirement, etc)...

I don't even really need to argue because I experienced it first hand. I make 2 times what my friends who has a PhD make and I don't even have a bachelor. Even in his field, which he was interested in, he doesn't end up doing what he wanted or what stimulates him in said field because of the way the job market is. But make your own choices, life will teach you.
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>>224308433
hahaha, the opposite. I'm the guy who has worked a shit job for 12 years. It is better to try and fail
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>>224308461
There is no failing though this isn't a video game, when you go after your passion and it fails you end going after it for 60 years and living a shitty ass life for 60 years, it doesn't just stop the moment you realize this isn't going to work out. But I'm glad you stopped at the beginning of my post and only replied of that ignoring the rest.
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>>224306970
If you were actually smart you wouldn't be unemployed
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>>224308525
completely disregarded your post because of the rare flag
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>>224306854
>>224306970
I had 800 citations by the time I graduated, same field as you, but I never found any work in my actual field. I just pivoted to doing AI shit with LLMs and somehow that worked out. Now I get paid $155k to do 1 hour of work a day from home.

Could be worse.
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>>224307779
Retail that paid a decent salary is literally my dream. The worst thing to me is that in my office job I worry about stuff on my time off. THAT is no life Anon. I wish I could work somewhere that I could leave work at work, you know? But imc retail pays unlivable wages.
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I gave up on my meme degree in junior year rather than getting further into debt and now I’m a trucker
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>>224307253
2 months
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>>224307319
>have you done wet lab work before?
a lot actually

>what kind of biotech companies are there in Brazil today? do you have a startup scene there?
it is growing, but only very few of them need bioinformaticians
I do have as startup though, but it is not making me any money, just draining it

I honestly wouldnt be able to tell anything about those startups without studying. why exactly do you ask?

>>224308632
I never said I was smart though

>>224309157
how did you do it? this is what I'm trying right now
>155k

the companies here are offering like 20-30k for AI devs. I'm trying to pump some AI projects in my github but I feel like is wasted time.
I want to fucking die.
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>>224309597
>how did you do it?
Be in the U.S. and a citizen + pure dumb luck.

I was able to convince some people at a 3rd tier tech company that I knew enough about ML and AI to make what they wanted to happen work. Apparently I was actually right, but I didn't know that at the time.
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>>224309436
>now I’m a trucker
based
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>>224308525
What happened to the other Barbadians who used to post here? Did they all emigrate already?
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>>224309640
how did you apply though? how did you manage to talk to them?

honestly almost every professional of my field that interacts with me likes me and my work, I refused a couple of jobs in the past, but I can't manage to talk to anyone offering a position right now
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>>224308174
I never said I was smart though
as a matter of fact, my field is full of fucking idiots in all levels
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>>224309525
2 months isn't enough to complain even in good fields sometimes it can take multiple months
call us back when it becomes 2 years
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>>224309681
I send out like 300 applications for jobs advertised on Linkedin and like 1 got back to me. I personalized my resume for each application separately. There's probably a better way to do it. It seems like a total crapshoot with everyone using AI to apply to jobs right now. You might want to consider cold-emailing the actual recruiters who seems to be posting jobs.
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>>224309696
well you are right
but if it takes too long I will just work as a waiter or some shit and hope I don't stay like that forever
I need to pay rent.

>>224309748
shit
I applied to like 30 and was losing hope, maybe I'm a little bitch

>I personalized my resume for each application separately

sounds like a huge pain in the ass. did you mention the biological background? I'm thinking it might be causing noise and making the HR roastie think I'm not the perfect fit
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>>224309748
You're almost getting it. More than blindly going after recruiters, realize certain work agencies have recruiters looking after specific profiles/specific jobs and go after recruiters who are involved in your field, instead of seeking random recruiters. How do you do that? Depends. Sometimes a simple google search is enough, sometimes you have to actively demand via phone calls/emails. No one smart bothers throwing random shit at Indeed or Linkedin nowadays that's the equivalent of using Hinge as an average guy.
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>he hasn't been promoted to big forklift operator
Ngmi
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>>224309775
Yeah, 30's nothing right now. Just keep going.

Read the skills they're looking for in a candidate and try to make your skills / experience look very extremely relevant without lying too much. I kept the biology stuff but how much it was emphasized / presented varied a lot depending on what I was applying to (i.e. maybe we call it biomedical research for a medical position application)
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>>224306724
Teaching certain skill, but I noticed that a while ago so I'm slowly drifting away from the school each year. But again, I didnt applied for it, the school principal invited me to teach few years ago.
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>>224306724
my career is mowing grass lol
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>>224309748
thanks
I will try it out
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>>224306724
you can learn to operate a forklift in about two days right?
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>>224309833
>having a digital screen in your forkfit and any sort of visual aid outside
Hope you didn't damage your manicure.
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>>224306724
i have a law degree but i have worked as a medical interpreter and as a wine salesman for almost a year
i wanna be a murderer
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>>224310403
There's a ton of different forklifts. Some forklifts can lift a truck. Each takes a few days, yes. You get comfortable after doing it everyday from a few months though. It's actually extremely easy as long as you're able to go slow, the only issue is that you can never really afford to go slow with these things.
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>>224306854
>>224306970
Have you considered getting a forklift license?
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>>224309597
>I honestly wouldnt be able to tell anything about those startups without studying. why exactly do you ask?
sorry for the delay

I want you to work with me on an algae based biotech product do you think you can help me with this? I can fly to brazil next week
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>>224306724
This happened with me it's been 3 years since I said "I'll do that job until I find something better" and now my payment has doubled but I don't know what the hell I'm doing and its boring as fuck.
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I earn $110k a year
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>>224310445
Don't you dare talk to her or her son ever again
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>>224310910
Nice! I earn 111k a year though
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>>224307662
Free Gainz though?
Fittest I've ever been was working as a farmhand and as a waiter at a Brazilian restaurant where we carry and cut the meat at the tables. I was getting fed obscene quantities of beef at both these jobs (a literal cattle farm and a literal steakhouse) while moving around and carrying things all day so I just got good muscles after 3 months
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>>224311017
:(
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>>224306854
>>224306970
>brazilian "molecular geneticist" doesn't understand why he can't get a job
it was such a mistake allowing these jungle races to access white civilization
now we have these literal monkeys larping as scientists

>b-but i'm in the top 5% of phds living in my local jungle
wow incredible
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>>224308079
Dunno how it works in Europe, but a Meme Degree in the US is still fine if you go onto Law School lol
>One of my mates has a History BA and then went to UCLA for Law and now makes 250k+ USD annually as a junior beginner
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someone is mad they doesnt have a phd
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>>224311042
what number is your citation
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>>224308304
VGH my fellow wannabe diplomat...
I studied the same in the US but now I work in a surfboard store in Australia because Trump nuked the State Department's hiring budget.
No idea how the British Foreign Office hires, but the American one has a relatively meritocratic system where you need to take a test to apply, but the fucking security clearance Investigation can easily take 10+ months so you exist in a state of limbo during that.
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>>224310847
>algae based biotech product

do you have a pitch deck?
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>>224311042
this isn't top 5% in brazil, this is top 5% in the world, but you are actually right, it is worthless
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>>224311062
>doxx yourself on 4chan
no thanks
can you name even one single contribution to global scientific progress that has come from brazil?
i think you guys get the wrong idea from the egos of some of the brazilian posters here
brazil is africa tier

>i'm a brazilian with a phd in bioinformatics and molecular genetics
should sound just as absurd to you as
>i'm a somalian with a phd in bioinformatics and molecular genetics
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>>224311042
you're a burger fliper, fatso
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>>224311045
Law is saturated so unless you graduate from like 3-4 specific schools or have relatives already well established in the field, you won't be making bank.
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>>224311118
>>224310847
if you have a bitch deck you can send it to this burn mail bumanon@proton.me so we don't get doxed
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>>224311151
because brazil has such a long history of contributing to the study of molecular genetics, right?
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>>224311142
Embraer planes don't crash themselves and kill their passengers anywhere near as much as your own America Made Boeing does, just satin's
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>>224311162
>3-4
It's usually T14 in the US, for White Shoe firms. If you get 170+ on the LSAT and have a decent GPA (3.6+) in undergrad you'll probably be fine.
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>>224306724
after 8 years working in IT i'm considering starting law school, the thing is, brazil has more law schools than the whole world COMBINED
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>>224311191
>>224311118
sure I'll email you in a bit
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>>224311208
why would you jump from IT to fucking lawschool
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>>224311196
buddy i don't want to hear it
you're a generation or two away from being a chinese colony
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>>224311226
idk lots of jobs as public servant. But i'm not 100% sure about it, still considering. The thing is, IT is completely dead in this country
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>>224308433
>It can be boring, but that's life and you learn to deal with it
What? Life is literally the most exciting thing there is
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>>224311299
That's probably why you're on /int/ during the weekend, because life is excting.
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>>224309657
I'm pretty happy with it
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>>224311235
Hahaha I touched a nerve there, huh?
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>>224311042
Holy shit these /pol/tards make every place unusable, do you fags ever shut up? Damn, they always spew generic racist garbage
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>>224311142
I'm actually East African, so seeing all your animosity towards us is fairly amusing. Are you mentally stunted in some capacity? All this unbridled rage is clearly coming from some type of trauma. Don't project your bizarre racial complex onto strangers.
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>>224311344
The slurs are whatever, it's the derailing of discussions that shits things up.
Here we are, having an actually interesting international convo about careers etc. in different countries, and he's just screeching and seething with nothing to add
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>>224307662
i worked for a freight forwarder who used agents to move our customer's stuff
working with moving companies was absolutely miserable. there's no brain cells at all. you guys are fucking retards and break shit and try to pretend you didn't, or you'll forget to load stuff on your truck and not even realize until you're already hours late. just stupid people everywhere in the transportation industry
i couldn't wait to quit and never deal with movers again
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>>224311320
Not much happening at 5:35am desu
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>>224309157
>had 800 citations by the time I graduated
this shit is mostly down to what research group you publish with and in what venue. it doesn't indicate genuine usefulness like it used to nowadays when h-index is treated like an optimization target and PIs at well funded institutions have their own students and their buddies' students rack up the initial citations to get the ball rolling in a matter of months
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>>224309792
>No one smart bothers throwing random shit at Indeed or Linkedin nowadays that's the equivalent of using Hinge as an average guy.
it's not that bad I got some offers from it recently. I tried doing the whole custom route but it was taking a lot of time for no return, whereas just spamming linkedin with resumes worked out for a couple offers

I did have to use AI to help me optimize the resume template for keywords and make a generator script that could quickly mix and match resume blocks and some variable text for each resume
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>>224306724
I work at a bank imc.
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>>224311338
>>224311344
>>224311390
>>224311196
this all very nice but

>>224311142
>can you name even one single contribution to global scientific progress that has come from brazil?
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>>224311390
>africa is a really great place which is why i left it and moved to america at my first opportunity
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>>224311804
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artur_Avila
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>>224307779
You could write a book about it and get famous like Convenience Store Woman, but less autistic. You seem like a good guy, it'll be alright.
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>>224306724
Helldiver?
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>>224307779
>retail
>the salary is decent enough to pay the bills
peak tutorial mode country
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I work EMS and it’s been one of the worst mistakes I’ve made in my life
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I'm thinking of getting into accounting or supply chain as a degree.
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Anyone else here with work injuries?
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>>224312286
>supply chain as a degree.
this sounds like the most ridiculous bullshit degree imaginable. just do econ or some engineering field if you want to become a corpo executive.
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>>224312294
Let me guess, something heavy fell on your hand? Too much damage to be something you were lifting that just dropped on your hand either.
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>>224311833
I was born here buddy, won't be leaving anytime soon. Maybe we'll run into each other one day, I doubt you go outside though.
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>>224312286
wtf is a supply chain degree.
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>>224312316
Plate roller.
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>>224312373
Sounds bad but your fingers don't look mangled. Someone pressed on the emergency stop early or something? It looks like you have nothing, maybe they're broken but I doubt they're shattered (which would require surgery). But enjoy the year or two it will take for your nails grow back completely.
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>>224307779
I'm working retail right now but tbf I'm autistic and with adhd and spent half a decade being a depressed hikki so iyc I would be on autismbucks but my country is a third world shithole with no gibbs. Hopefully I'll manage to finish uni and land a retard quota position in the public sector o algo
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>>224312294
Yep, working as a ringer with cattle
>Kicked in the arse by a Steer
>Fell off my dirt bike multiple times and everything aches
>Cut myself fixing barbed wire fencing
>Got welding flash once
>Kneecap hurts like hell for 2 month because of a bad dirt bike accident + tree stump hit combo
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>>224312399
Bone fractures, some loss of movement in the smaller fingers. The little finger got the worst of it, fractured into four pieces in one spot. My nails regrew in three months but they're damaged and will take time to look normal.
I was helping a colleague with his work and my hand went in since I wasn't careful due to the heavy work, colleague panicked and actually fed my hand further in twice before he fed it back out instead of just pressing the emergency stop, kek.
>>224312414
Rough.
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>>224312544
Sorry to hear that. Never help retarded coworkers around something heavy that can move. I also learned that lesson but my fingers healed back quickly and I had zero loss of movement, bone fracture too but they fractured in two clean pieces with zero fragments. Even when I went to the hospital they didn't you anything, they just sent me home and it healed on its own. Did you require surgery? Some people I know who lost mobility recovered it after a certain time by practicing and going to a specialist often.
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>>224312544
You had it worse than me, none of my injuries are permanent (I think, my wrist still hurts and its been 8 months haha??)
Ringing is definitely a young man's job. My boss is 45 and already limping because he crashed his airplane once while mustering and nuked his entire right foot's bones. Also we all get skin cancer from being outdoors all day.
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I am a 33 year old NEET with 0 future prospects.
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>>224312633
They considered surgery but they thought it wouldn't make a difference at the moment. When the joint on my little finger eventually causes me too much pain they'll perform surgery to remove the last flexibility. The joint split into four pieces and now it's healed firmly stiff. My ring finger almost has full mobility but I can't close it fully.
>>224312651
Ye but you're still puttinf a lot of wear on the body. Take it easy and go to the gym, basic exercise goes a long way in preventing injuries.
>>224312672
NEET king, I kneel...
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>>224312672
how can you even survive as a NEET in a thirdie country without NEETbux? rich parents?
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Did a meme degree aswell, now doing a trade. It blue colar tiring, but i have job



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