>firsties claim "in my culture we value family" is a non-statement from thirdies trying to act morally superior>meanwhile, grandparents charge money to babysit their grandkidsAbsolutely grim if you ask me.
>>224313925My parents used a whip on my grandmother to make sure she babysat faster and made her pay five cents for bathroom breaks
Thirdie family might be oppressive and suffocating idk I have no experience