Separate married men and woman to make profits, there. Also everything is for blame men so yeah..
>>224461406A combination of the following:No money. No house. No sexual partner. Bleak outlook for my country that seems unkind to bring a child into. Lack of life experience.
>>224461406We do thougheverbeit
>>224461406They do in america though, just not in europe or east asia.
I am tho. I am also buying a house and have a bright outlook on the future. I make a very modest (low) income and so does my wife, but we live within our means and generate a surplus of income each week.My wife is chinese and her family assisted us in buying a house (alongside my deposit).
>>224461406Pretending to be depressed when right now we're still at the good part of this process. The bad part is a few decades down the lie when everyone around you is in his 60s, people retire only if they miraculously reach their 80s, health services are overpriced and saturated because of insanely high demand and witnessing anyone younger than 30 will be as rare as meeting a natural ginger
>>224461406Men are choosing to play video games instead of starting a family.
>>224461474Its reverse >>224461406Unironically Rat paradies or whatever the experiments Name was, we aint anythin better than themJust some small rats running around the maze, some people built
Getting a high paying stable job is hard especially while you're youngBuying a house or apartment is fictionEven buying a car is expensive nowYou can't have kids without these basic necessities
>>224461406For me, it's because I'm unable to attract women.
Have you seen the state of modern women?
>>224461612
take women's rights and make them property againproblem solved
>>224461534Impossible to suffer in as a native:-Australia-New Zeland-Oman, Kuwait, Qatar, those small yet rich arabic countries-Midwest USA-German part of Switzerland-Denmark-Small canadian towns in British Columbia or Quebec
>>224461660Hey thanks for saying this for the 829 929 301st time, we didn't hear you the previous 829 929 300 ones. It's well on its way the powers that be saw your post and are hard at work to solve it thanks to your great insight.
>>224461688Midwest has a lot of red neck meth heada
>>224462054Still low crime, stick to their quarantine zones and relatively harmless. Meanwhile your average midwestern man has clean and modern cities, amazing weather and fauna, great traffic because of low population density, married his high school crush at 19, drives a raptor and owns a medium sized house before reaching 30. Did I forget to mention he has a 15 minute drive from home to an amazing place to fish, hunt or hike, his favorite hobbies?>but but but!!I've physically been there. Don't bullshit me. And on top of that the cost of living in general is decently low.
>>224461406living has become too expensive and jobs are becoming harder to get
>>224461406because fuck kids
>>224461406I’d seriously consider to have one if I knew it would be a girl but 50% chance I’d end up with a boy so no i can't to gamble on this
>>224461548And how many kids do you have?
>>224461406I'm gonna have kids but only like 1 or 2. Buying a house is giga expensive, and finding a rental apartment with enough rooms that doesn't cost an arm and a leg is stupidly difficult
Do you guys actually like children? They're fucking awful lol.
>>224462769I do wish I could be a stay at home dad and teach my kids everything I know, I just don't like the children of other people if that makes sense.
>>22446276999% of the time you can tell if a child is going to be a pain in the ass by simply interacting with the parents. The shit doesn't drop far from the asshole.
>>224462742I play video games.
>>224462930Based, me too. I wouldn't even mind stopping but I don't really like the women of this country
>>224462769people like to blame on economic conditions but one of the bigger reason is more ideological, even if they can afford to have a kid, people will still spend the money on themselves.
only the rich and the super poor can afford it, if you're in between somewhere you better make raising your only child like a life goal or just enjoy the end of your lineage>if the dirty poor can afford it, why can't you?I'd like my hypothetical kid to have more than one pair of shoes, but if you're fine with that by all means carry on
>>224461406sex hatedont hate sex and you get kids
cant afford to live on one wage, and daycare costs half your wages
>>224461474Strife typically made people reproduce like rabbits, the reason is something else entirely.
Behavior sink
>>224461406It's time for the senseless suffering to end
>>224461406there's no societal pressure
>>224461406Our sperm has been replaced by microplastic
>>224461406I don't want to put a child just to be a cattle for (((them))).
I want to have kids with a woman like pic rel.
>>224461688>tp>tf>talking about suffering
>>224461406Only the chosen ones are needed to have kids. Even if you do have any, they’re not guaranteed to continue the same path as you or your descendants. The ones that do have do not wait and ask continuously like a child asking for permission in a class, they just go and do it.
>>224463420pretty sure that's a somehow even manlier tranny larping as paola carosella
I hate foids.
>>224463449Carmen is a real woman though.
>>224462964>I don't really like the women of this countryHot but too feminist.
I'm 5'6 so women would rather take turns riding Jaquarius between arrests than look at me
>>224463469so is paola, allegedly.
>>224463493https://www.instagram.com/p/Dc1TcncqJOs/?hl=en
>>224463491I've seen women dating men shorter than themselves though
>>224462769I thought Asian kids make good slaves
>>224461406Americans destroyed the modern world by making people addicted to consumerism and capitalism, so the people who reproduced for 99% of human history stopped finding happiness in watching their kids grow and instead replaced it for finding happiness from consuming the latest goyslop
>>224461406births so far this year: 8 milliondeaths so far this year: 3.5 millionthe world is doing fine and the population is still increasing steadily.Why is OP never gonna have sex?
>>224463768I fucked up the numbers by a factor of ten:births so far this year: 89 milliondeaths so far this year: 42 million.If anything, it reinforces the point that people are having babies all over the place, and OP is a miserable incel.
I earn above the median national income. together with my fiancee we probably make 120 - 130k and it's still barely enough to scrape by. I am completely puzzled as to how actual poor people survive.
>>224463826Not buying stuff.t. poorfag
>>224463823>Almost all of that 89 million is BBCHot
>>224463826if money is of no object would you still be considering kids?
>>224463826just quit your two premium blacked.com subscriptions and stop sending money to Israeli grandmasalso try cooking every now and then
>>224464039yeah I always wanted to have kids I just feel priced out. It's enough stress just paying for ourselves
>>224461406There's no status boost from being a mother so women don't have kids o algo asi
>>224464079I know you live in a third world country and can't comprehend anything being expensive. I also don't live in a shantytown where you can just get around on a moped all year.
>>224461406I wonder if people think they're too "cool" for it. They think that it's old fashioned and the modern, enlightened thing to do is focus entirely on yourself (because kids are le heckin' crotch goblin parasites!)It's one thing if you think you don't have the resources for it, but simply not wanting to have kids sounds completely retarded to me. The goal of every animal is to reproduce so if you are childless you live your entire life without fulfilling your one inherent goal; what are you even supposed to do without a family to look after?
>>224461406even niggas and browns too?
>>224463826Try cancelling some subscriptions.
>>224464369Yes >>224459678
>>224464515>third worlder sees yuppie tiktok influencer viral video and thinks all Americans can afford $800 in subscriptionsnigger I pay $5 a month for hulu and I'm going to cancel it when the promo period is up
>>224461406Because the world has been getting significantly worse every year for about 10 years now, and especially in the past 6. I'll consider having children if I see signs of this global downward spiral reversing course.
>>224463826 You can live on 45k a year if you arn't in a major metro area. alot of people make seemingly minor purchaces that add up. eating out, car payments (Every school drop off is full of a new suv's sold at 90k), fashion trends, keeping up with the Jonses. Gas adds up.dont have brand loyalty, and really look into your purchaces.
>>224464565I drive a 20 year old car. I do spend a lot of money on food but I feel like that's necessary so I don't end up with terminal cancer in my 30s like most people do now.
>>224461474> Bleak outlook for my country that seems unkind to bring a child into. No. Plenty of children were born in much worse periods.
>I MUST REPRODUCE AT ANY COST!t. bacteria
>>224462769My sister had one and it made her life a nightmare lol. 18 hours in labor, now everything in her life revolves around it and she is stuck in a relationship
>>224461406women won't let me nut in them
>>224461406use case for kids?
>>224461406Way I see it is this:>cost of life rising up and up>people getting more and more bitter and selfish>there is no sense of community, societies push for the 'everyone for themselves' perspective>bleak, pessimistic outlook on life for many people>hedonism and consumerism are all that matters>people constantly pushing men against women and vice-versa as if they were enemies
>>224464842maybe it's more like>40 hour work week agreed upon at a time when a single 40 hour income could pay for all expenses and wife would handle domestic labor>now both halves of a marriage work>that 80 hours doesn't buy twice as much stuff>the work schedule wasn't reduced to accommodate for twice as much labor
there’s already too many damn people
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>>224464875Yeah, like I said, the cost of living has increased.
>>224461612>>224461635This, the foidyim have gone insane.
>>224461635>playing on the easiest difficulty with handicaps enabled>women still can't resist mind blasting themselves with SSRIs and annihilating their childrenquite puzzling
>>224465703Being a woman is hard i imagine. Imagine you had to compete with countless women for the few eligible men
>>224461406'cause wealthy eat them
This schizophrenic mutt is still attempting to gaslight thrid worlders into believing he's poor and can't afford living while pulling 120k yearly and they're believing it like the stunted mutants they are.
>>224466109120k wont qualify you for a mortgage in california
>>224466109>pulling 120k yearlyThis is a meme. 120k in an expensive metro might as well be poverty-tier. Jobs that pay the 120k meme are also heavily gatekept. Most people are working 40-45k jobs with shit hours and no time off.
>>224466159>let me come here and pretend rent in expensive metro areas is 5k a monthAre you shameless or just insane? I agree about the part concerning common people not making shit in the US. I probably make more than average american with my measly 5k monthly.>>224466124Alright I didn't want to embarrass you but here we go... how much do you pay for rent? Be honest. I know it's hard to be honest on an anonymous website but try your best.
>>224461406But people are having kids, the lowest fertility rates in the west are still >1
>>224462769>having children when you hate yourselfnot in this lifetime
>>224464333>The goal of every animal is to reproduce so if you are childless you live your entire life without fulfilling your one inherent goal; what are you even supposed to do without a family to look after?That is one terminal case of hylicbrain
>>2244663631 means half of the people out there are having children o algo
i grew up poorif i have kids and give them what i would want to give them id remain poor myselfmy friend said when you have your 1st kid your life ends and theirs begin, prioritiesfeels true
>>224466299$1450 a month for a tiny studio
>>224466448Living like a eunuch wont free your soul from this prison i dont think
>>224466536>1450 a month in rent>17400 a year>makes 120k yearly>pretends the rest vanishes in car payments, gaz, food, bills, etcI pay around as much as you in rent for a descent sized house but you make 2.5 time my salary and I'm still able to save up money and be comfortable. Stop lying online. Let's exchange lives I know for a fact I could live very comfortably in your country with your salary.
>>224466552Just saying that the human condition is more complex than this one biological drive being its ultimate definition, you have the power to refuse it and pursue something else. That doesn't have to mean eunuchmaxxing.
>>224466576Hardly anyone makes 120k. Im privileged to make 86k (50k after taxes). Most people here make 40k (25k after taxes) so they wouldnt be able to affors the tiny studio i can afford. America is shit i dont know where you get the idea that this is paradise
>>224466576That’s even if you get a job here. Unless your name is Visajeet or something similar, you’re not getting a job. Everything has been outsourced
>>224466606Why did you reply to me when I was trying to talk to the guy who claimed he made 120k and yet barely survived? Who the fuck are you?
>>224466606Foreigners look at that buck-ee’s job advertisement and think any retard here can just waltz they’re way into a 100k job o algo
I've lost my faith in womankind so hard I don't think even if a 10/10 woman threw herself at me I would have children at this point, I used to look at a pretty woman and fall in love, my heart would skip beats, I would feel warm and fuzzy inside, I would just instinctively give my life to save her if the situation called for it, that was 10 years ago, now I whenever I see a woman I just feel cold cynical disdain, indifference, I just want to get away from her as quickly as possible
>>224464333there's no inherent goal anon. this isn't a video game. you don't gain xp by having kids and there's no endgame content. you will end up in the same hole as everyone else regardless
>>224467623Then kill yourself weird fuck if you don't give a shit about living and doing things
>>224463826As a poorfag I'm completely puzzled at how someone can have that much money and is still scraping by. Dafuq are you spending your $$$ on?
>>224467650i like living and enjoy doing plenty of things. not sure how you summised i don't enjoy living because i don't want to waste my money on a useless parasite for 18+ years
>>224467601why can't you have a middle ground? a pragmatic look on women as flawed beings with pros and cons but instead of either angels you put on a pedestal or demons you have to run away from
>>224467665that'd be a poverty combined income in a high cost of living place like NYC or San Francisco
>>224467716>anti life and doesn't want to procreate>claims life is pointless and what we do don't matter>"i love life though"The only person you're fooling is yourself.
>>224466606im pretty sure it is an american diaspoo
>>224467665A lot of Americans are just dumb and would greatly benefit from a mandatory financial literacy class. You wouldn’t believe how much money my parents threw down the shitter over the years if they had just paid attention to their expenses and whatnot. Also, Americans in general love to live above their means.
>>224462769I have 2 kids and while they have a special ability to be the most annoying fucking things in existence when they think they need attention/sleep, they're also just really awesome to have around. When they were babies I would go pick them up while they were fast asleep just to watch their cute little sleeping faces. I really just love my kids so much its insane, its like I was born to do this.
>>224467871This nigga has a wife and kids and spends his free time on 4chan. It's over for all of you.
>>224461406I have 3 kids and make like 65k a year. Its not a material issue, its a spiritual issue. The highly religious and less deracinated dont have these issues and have the highest birth rates since they have the social capital intact and lack the modern obsession with material and status. They have a better understanding of their own humanity and can follow intergenerational wisdom that has guided surviving cultures for ages. One of these is that you need to genuinely not fear the consequences of punishment , hardship, and death. I myself am just a deist but I believe in a divine purpose and recognize the need for belief in higher powers to conquer death. Is it difficult to raise 3 kids on 65k a year? Sure, but it is nothing compared to what my ancestors have faced and I do not fear it. That is the mentality that modern people lack, instead everyone languishes in inaction and self pity, shift blame onto anyone but themselves, and throw away a better life in the name of self worship and ego. Asceticism isnt rooted in self hatred but an understanding beyond yourself, modernity is only geared around momentary comfort and self pity. If you abandon these things then creating a family is automatic, it is just something you do. Thats why there is an IQ gap in birth rates, people too stupid to be indoctrinated in modern culture arent affected by it but the highly educated and highly religious arent either.
>>224467665rent, utilities, debt
>>224467665They spend it on things they think they need but dont and refuse to downsize out of pride
>>224468186I refuse to go on government assistance and live off of canned foodyou guys are being total fucking retards. 100,00 dollars is NOT a lot of money if you live in America. I know it's a lot in other countries. That's what exchange rates are for. That doesn't make my life any better. I can buy a big TV for $300 but once I have that TV I don't need another one. On the other hand a modest home is $300,000 and a used car is $20,000. I am not spending all of my money on avocado toast and spotify I just can't afford this shit.
>>224467725I can't control what I feel internally when I look at a woman, my natural reaction used to be that of awe, affection, attachment, warmth. It's these feelings that made me pursue women, without these feelings pursuing women makes no sense, as if you walked into a restaurant and ordered food but actually you don't want food, you're not even hungry at all
>>224461406Kids are for black people and gay people exclusively
>>224463198Kids used to be more or less free.Now it's healthcare costs, education costs, entertainment costs, etc etc.
>>224463826I was a young dad supporting my family off a forklift driving job and then as a tradie apprentice through my wives back to back meagre maternity leave income for a period of three kids. I have about 200$ in savings right now after needing some larger repairs after the last car inspection. You adapt basically. We eat a lot of pasta and tuna cans and stuff like that. You learn how to do repairs and maintenance yourself. You don’t eat fast food, you don’t go out for drinks, you buy second hand on marketplace etc.
>>224467725white women are demons and I don't want them
>>224461474cope>>224461548cope>>224461406women are free to choose their man and whether they want to have kids so they choose to all go for chad who won't commit and not to have kids with the simp they have to settle with if they want a relationshipngubus in africa are literally starving and have 6 kids. european people 150 years ago were literally starving and had 6 kids. every economic argument falls flat on its face when you remember this.
>>224467601>>224467725These posts are pure comedy thank you anons for this riveting performance
>>224468770>they choose to all go for chad who won't commit^thisI'm not interested in chad's leftovers
>>224461547>people retirenigga do you seriously think a general age-based retirement policy will survive even 20 years into the future? assuming AI doesn't glass the world to turn it into futa dojins first, only capital holders will be able to "retire", workoids will only be further dispossessed as old people become an ever larger part of the population and the marginal productivity of labor falls through the floor with everyone reduced to a low value add menial laborer now that AI can do all the intellectual work.
>>224468816and chad has no reason to commit to any of the 200 whores after his dick, and becky has no reason to compromise and go for you because chad will still dick her good and there's no longer any social pressure or incentive to actually have kids that can't be overcome by a goon sesh
>>224468245>and a used car is $20,000*2000 max. In fact often less, one of my buddies buys them off people for like 500 dollars and just knows how to keep them running Youre getting scammed by used car salesman dude. Also youre too good for canned food? Im guessing youre too good for food banks and the discount shelf too then. The other problem is just that youre complaining about being "poor" not even knowing that the standard of living you have is insane. If you can blow 20k on a used car ( and i hope you arent doing that on loan i swear to god) you are living better than most kings did back in the day. One of my friends is a manager at a Chic Fil A now but lived for years literally out of his car getting by with whatever he could with 4 kids after his wife died. Like 2 years he lived that way just getting by and saving up money, times were hard and I never heard him complain about it as a goddamn dishwasher with about the worst luck in the world. Thats what its really like to be broke and destitute. Youre making 100k a year and cant muster the courage to live somewhere cheaper, downsize your spending, learn how to be self reliant or anything? There are skills you can learn from other people if you just reach out, there are communities to turn to, there are ways to get by in way less if youre willing to accept saying no ro certain material things. Its not "avocado toast and coffee" or whatever the boomers who grew up middle class and larp as if they grew up in the trailer park / hood say, those are nothing. if you've been conditioned to thinking 20k for a used car is normal I guarantee there is more going on than you realize which most americans have been scammed into believing. There are systemic issues with the economy and especially housing costs but you aren't a poorfag at 100k a year and can easily afford kids
>>224461406no clue
>>224461406>>224461474I have money and a sexual partner but I correctly recognize that imposing existence on a nonconsenting being is an objective moral wrong.
>>224461406It's really simpleJerking off, playing video games and consuming media is easier and cheaper than having to humiliate yourself and be some jester for women in hopes of putting my peepee in their vagoo. If you cease to amuse them for just a second they discard you and hop on some other dick. It's simply not worth it for the modern man.
>>224469042Bodied that retard
>>224469361Good thing you remembered to tell us you are correct
>>224469252this video is true lmaoI have a small distant niece in china that came to visitshe was asking me why I had the time to play videogamesapparently they study until 7/8pm over therewhen I was a kid I was playing videogames for ~10 hours a day, yet I will make more money than she ever will
>>224469361Wrong, fuckwit. Don't throw concepts around you don't understand.
Next generation is just gonna be fuel for the AI machine god anyway. They're getting ground up into little paste for biofuel. Sorry but it's probably going to happen.
>>224461406If you live in a city it's just an objectively poor decision. You would be willingly lowering your quality of life.
>>224469440It's more like there is no woman who is worth doing all that.
The women are killing them, they are literally killing all the kids.
>>224469537I had Chinese in school and learned 40 words in a year, you need to know like 5000 to read a newspaper. I ask my teacher what was the system and she just look at me like I was stupid and said remember.
>>224465703>hasnt taken BBC in 9 month+child's age>tutorial modeDelusional
>>224469841Chinks were already grinding 15 hours a day to pass the imperial exam 1000 years ago
>>224461406I'm just making time, watching the West demographically collapse
The root of all of today's problems stem from one word, capitalism
Im 35 and my fucking mother told me if everything was alright down my pants. She wants kids and I hatebwoman and kids. Also I am.a neet.
>>224461406But they are
>>224470362heartwarming: countries with the worst living conditions are reproducing
>>224470858More proof the whole "economics"-argument is just nonsense to distract from hypergamy
>>224463198>>224464658>>224461576The problem isn't the absolute level of wellbeing but the DIRECTION of changeAlso while luxuries are cheap, essentials have become expensive
>>224470362Wish this was inverted
>>224471484would smell worse
