do they regret creating latin america?
do central asians regret creating you
>>224484467why would they regret their greatest achievement?
they didn’t, they’re the ones that stayed behind
>>224484559Why is your IQ so low? Do you happen to know?
>>224484467The iberian colonizers who colonized the American continent are here, tho, in other words we created ourselves.
>>224484606he's right paco>>224484467we didn't create anything, modern spain and portugal are a post napoleonic invention and so are modern iberianswe share ancestors with them but that's all, imperial spain would consider the socially progressive atheist feminist moor loving spain an abomination
>>224484796otro pseudoretrasado
>>224484796matate panchito
>>224484951>>224484976Why are browns like this?
>>224484796>modern spain and portugal are a post napoleonic inventionThe fuck are you on about
>>224484796Best post thus far
>>224484796TrukeIn Portugal case they literaly put D Pedro 1 daughter as queen because it would cause confusion to have the king of Brazil (D Pedro II) be the king of portugalThe only country that could rule more than 1 nation was the UK funnily enough
>>224484796Modern progressive Spain is a direct result of idol worshipping Medieval Spain.
>>224484796The biggest Trvke I've seen here. Are you a Carlist by any chance?
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>>224486757Not my queen
>>224484467Brazil isn't Latin America
>>224486757D. Pedro I was king of Brazil and Portugal, he just abdicated the throne of Portugal in favor of his daughter as not the unite the crowns of Brazil and Portugal. D. Pedro II was born after Brazil’s independence
>>224486757>>224487570Why are we even independent? We should be one country
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>>224488768There were 5 million people (including slaves) at the time of independence. Too many favelados now. It would swamp us
>>224489682We'd have had a bigger population anyway, because we'd eventually have attracted plenty of immigrants from other countries. Obviously we're never going to reunite with Portugal after 2 centuries of independence, but that doesn't mean seceding from Portugal was a good thing. From the 1850s onward we could have had people settling the empire in Africa and Asia, instead of everyone heading south because of droughts and other problems here. We threw away a global empire just to become a regional power in South America
>>224490105>We threw away a global empire just to become a regional power in South AmericaNot our problem. We left you with the most stable and prosperous country in South America. Your elites threw it all away because they were butthurt about the end of slavery
>>224490257Yeah but we didn't vote for it. We never really had a widespread uprising against Portugal in the first place, and whenever unrest broke out local troops were used to keep things as they were. Even Pedro while leading the independence movement had to crush resistance to it. Brazilians to this day can't really explain how we ended up becoming independent
>>224490497D. Pedro did you a favor. The Liberal Cortes wanted Brasil to be a colony againhttps://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortes_Gerais_e_Extraordin%C3%A1rias_da_Na%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Portuguesa
Literally same logic as yellow fever faggots but yall aint ready for that conversation
>Brazil isn't Latin America
>>224491061I don’t see how Brazil would’ve gone back to being a colony, it would’ve just been another overseas territory with political representation
>>224491399It would be a overseas territory WITHOUT political representation. The Brazilian representatives were targets of xenophobic abuse just like the average favelado here today. Nothing changed in 200 years
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>>224491522Xenophobia exists in every country with regional differences, that by itself is hardly a justification for independence. The article explicitly states that the territories in the Americas were granted political representation
>>224491676They had representation on paper, but in practice it was a different reality
>>224489682>slavesCould've just shipped them to populate Portuguese Africa and secure Pink Map if you weren't so dumb and cucked>>224491522Reinóis just had an inferiority complex to Mazombos and were mad that the king preferred Brazil as the metropolis due to the geopolitical advantage of Brazil's geographical position to manage the colonies in the rest of the world
>>224492024Can't have an inferiority complex towards descendants of slaves and savages. Brazil was somewhat decent when it was ruled by the Portuguese
>>224492105Mazombos were descendants of Reinóis
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>>224492206It takes two to make a baby. There were no Portuguese women there, so the mother had to be a slave or a savage
>>224492105>Brazil was somewhat decent when it was ruled by the PortugueseYeah retard, Rio de Janeiro was a cholera and malaria infested shithole, and São Paulo was a 15k inhabitants village.Brazil was nothing when we got independent from you.It BECAME something when we had massive real European, Libanese and Japanese migration.Portugal did nothing here, except turning this country into a massive rape field slave plantation.
>>224492234I can tell you don't know Brazilian history
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>>224492315>Portugal did nothing here, except turning this country into a massive rape field slave plantation.Why would people immigrate there?
>>224484467No actually we're proud of it.Is Turkey proud of creating Iraq, Uzbekistan, Bosnia and Algeria?
>>224492315Pedro II was born in Brazil, but he was ethnically Portuguese and Austrian. We ruled you until 1889
>>224492388You were migrating here like crazy until the 1980's, then you joined the EU and decided to migrate to other european countries.Portugal is basically a migrant country, unlike us.
>>224492459>Portugal is basically a migrant country, unlike us.You are literally shitting up this country as we speak
>>224492472>YouI'm not a favelado desperate enough to move to Portugal, Nuno
>>224492504Favelados are too dumb to move anywhere
>>224490497I think part of the reason is that, unlike the usual oppressor-colonist and oppressed-colony dynamic, there was general unanimity between Portugal and Brazil. So when Brazil pushed for more autonomy from Portugal and the elites demanded independence, there was more of an effort to resolve things diplomatically since both countries were so interconnectedI mean, the main figure of Brazil's independence was literal Portuguese royalty, and when Pedro I died, he asked for his heart to be sent back to Portugal. That tells you a lot about the relations between the two countries
>>224492613>the main figure of Brazil's independence was literal Portuguese royaltyHe had no choice, the liberals were cucking his dad and were going to cuck him if he returned to Portugal
>>224492613Pedro I died in Portugal.
>>224492105Brazil > Portugal.
>>224492024Includes Galicia...
> skips 200 years of autonomous government & historyMost visible spanish legacy in LATAM is limited to the historical centers of certain cities. Everything else has been built post independence, but you niggers literally talk like Spain literally came and built everything from scratch and leftThat mostly applies to USSR in regards Baltics, Central Asia, etc
>uberinho out of nowherelmao
