I just learned that despite having the supposedly most powerful military in the world, the US lost wars against rice farmers in Vietnam and goat herders in AfghanistanDamn bro thats crazy
Were you in coma since 1969 ?
>>224497159The US military is structured like a global police force. Their only job is to protect trade routes.
>>224497159Did you hear they lost agains Iran too?
>>224497159They lost against some of the most intricate and complex rebel networks in history, yes.
>>224497381>a rice farmer with an ak hiding in a hole>sophisticated
>>224497159and now the goatfuckers in Iran
>>224497395>t. historylet
The US also lost the war against these guys
>They lost against some of the most intricate and complex rebel networks in history, yes.
>>224497159They werent allowed to invade the north.
They won both in terms of armed conflict.Yeah, even in Vietnam, America destroyed the Viet Cong and killed a huge chunk of the North Vietnamese army. The problem is, they don’t know what to do after they win.They really expected an exhausted and crippled South Vietnam to somehow resist after America left, but that obviously didn’t happen, and by the time they realized it, it was too late to do anything about it.The same thing happened in Afghanistan. They invaded without really understanding the ethnic and cultural divisions in the country. They somehow expected tribal Pashtuns living under medieval laws to support that retarded republic.Americans are good at war, you have to give them that. But they have absolutely no idea what to do after they win it.
>>224497415Kinda sad to think these were children indoctrinated by CIA funded schools only to be forced into a war with them later and never got to experience real childhood
>>224497415>he doesnt know
>>224497415based nigga on the elliptical
>>224497428your mind is tainted with american propaganda about how they fumbled and lost, and not how the insurgents adapted and won.
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its gonna be even more crazy when you learn that most VNese wish the US had never left
its gonna be even more crazy when you learn that most VNese are retard subhuman faggot
>>224497475what stopped american to fumigate the tunnels
>>224497477>most VNese wish the US had never leftNo, I'm pretty sure they're glad they're not getting bombed by weekly American bombing raids
>>224497477You're a de facto US colony now thanks to the communist party don't worry
>>224497475>Americans lost at wack-a-mole
>>224497514They had doors inside the tunnels, and the tunnels could be partially collapsed to separate them from the rest of the tunnel network
>>224497450And Iraq is an even better example. They annihilated the 4th largest army in the world in just a monthAnd what did they do next? They handed political power to the Shias (iran)and then soy jacked when Sunni Iraqis joined ISIS and al Qaeda in masses
>>224497159did they go to full war aginst them?you need to see the difference between poking at someone and full war. last time usa went at full war they nuked japan and invaded iraq.
>>224497541Yeah but wouldn't you spread poison gas over wide swathes of the jungle, thereby poisoning every entrance? I've also wondered if pumping seawater into the tunnels would be an option
>>224497560still iran defeated them
>>224497381This, very cringe to underestimate the PAVN and NLF in particular, especially considering they had the best general since like Napoleon and Sherman running things.Taliban/Mujahedeen are no slouches either.
>>224497563Define “full war”.
>>224497579The actual war hasn’t started yet.
>>224497475I was more referring to the 70 IQ inbred Afghan goatfuckers
>>224497588That is when the entirety of a society's resources is mobilized in order to improve and maximize military capability.
>>224497634By that metric the last and only time the US had a full war was when they fought themselves.
>>224497614it's already over, amerisharts already run over of missiles and drones they are now bluffing
>>224497560Including Iran in the new balance of power was out of obligation since they had no traditional allies in Iraq (aside from the ones they overthrew) they had to play "enemy of my enemy" game and mostly won hence they control the oil while islamists perform perform humiliation rituals in the green zone. US policies in Iraq worked great if you're say one of the war lobbyists.
>>224497588if someone comes at you and say im gonna kill you. japan did that in pearl harbour. your flag did that in lots of europe. then the response will be no and using the required violence to do so is what i define as total and full war.
>>224497647No, the second world war also counts. The reason they were so dominant was from mobilizing their vastly superior productive capacity to do crazy things like make almost 2 million tons of steel a week and climbing to more than 2/3rds of global production.
>>224497719It's crazy to think that all western manufacturing has been outsourced to China
>>224497719>muh steelAmerica never sacrificed its civilian production during WWII. The mobilization was people pumping out military equipment in factories to supply to the rest of the Allies. The actual number of troops in the field was minuscule compared to Germany and the USSR.Actual full scale war economy is devastating to a country. The US climbed out of the great depression while both Germany and the USSR lost like 1/3 of their GDP by the end of the war.
>>224497794It's a little overstated, frankly. What changed over the latter half of the 20th century is not so much manufacturing shrinking much beyond what can be expected with efficiency gains, so much as the tertiary sector growing much faster.
>>224497833I think you and Norway anon are talking past each other. Yes, US has never fought a total war, because they haven't had to. They still had impressive production figures
>>224497833That's just down to the Americans being much more strategically efficient and technologically superior, especially so in the pacific theater.
>>224497159We play for K/D ration