What's your country's equilavent to this?
stay in your arab middle eastern country greece is european
>>224630350Now I understand why Macedonia is the poorest part of Greece despite its noble past
>>224630350why don't you post the real flag, tigran.modern greeks exist since 1821.
>>224630350there aren't
>>224630350Fun fact is that while Greeks themselves suffered under the Ottoman yoke, at the same time the sultan employed Greeks to exert his powers in other parts of empire so in these areas Greeks are seen as worse occupiers than actual Turks. It's especially true for Romania
>>224630350
>>224630538>Fun fact is that while Greeks themselves suffered under the Ottoman yoke, at the same time the sultan employed Greeks to exert his powers in other parts of empire so in these areas Greeks are seen as worse occupiers than actual Turks. It's especially true for RomaniaIt's been like this everywhere, this is why Serbs hated Slavic muslims while you guys simp for them and wonder why is that because "we speak the same language".
The only equivalent I can think of is Spain.
>>224630630Bosnjaks are super cool people thoand you know, the situation in Romania was different because Greeks were as foreign to them as the Turks were, while Bosnjaks were very similar to Serbs/Croats.
>>224630739I would understand if a horse-faced, horse-accented beautiful girl from Sarajevo stole your heart making you simp for Bosnia like this Patuljko but come on...
>greeks were invented in 1821 when the brits, french and russians invaded the once albanian populated mora region of the ottoman empire and forced hellenized the population.>later yanya (“ioannina”), selanik (“thessaloniki”), girit (“crete”) and kıbrıs (“cyprus”) followed were the population was either forced hellenized, massacred or expelled to modern turkey.>there was no greek ethnicity before the fall of the ottoman empire, even today there is no word for greek in turkish language.>greeks are hellenized albanians, pomaks and anatolians, this was also the mainstream view in the western world (fallmerayer-theory) before pan-europeanism designed by kalergi took over after ww2.>istanbul was never called constantinople during the ottoman empire, it was called islambol.>athens had less than 4.000 inhabitants in 1833.>hagia sophia was created in the 19th century by the italian, masonic fossati brothers who later claimed it was “restored” and is full of masonic kabbalistic imagery. sophia is actually shekhinah who gets raped by serpent demons in order to destroy the earth.>greek mythology is rebranded kabbalah, just like roman, egyptian and babylonian mythology. chronos eating its children is actually saturn eating children in the black cube time prison.>sirtaki was invented by the hollywood movie alexis zorbas.>the term greek yogurt was coined by the danone company. more specifically by izak karasu, a selanik jew who renamed himself to isaac carasso to pretend, like all sephardi jews, to be descendant of those from the spanish inquisition.
>Albanian nationalists have discovered the existence of masons and kabbalahI underestimated them...
>>224630804I love the Sarajevo accent indeed, especially the proloooonged vowelshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG_Kc2_kPhA
>>224630921>especially the proloooonged vowelsWhen I've been there I really felt how similiarly they speak to Serbs from Vojvodina.Though over time I gradually got annoyed at their personalities and victimising (if you think Serbs are bad and obsessed with the recent history, I hope you never find out just how obsessed they are to the point of very casually talking about that stuff. Serbs keep that shit to the internet more or less).I always kind of liked people from Bosnia, Serbs and in general.
>>224630987you can't blame them, they were personally affected by the recent wars, while most Serbs from Serbia have only seen the war on TV. If you live in a building where bullet holes are still visible, you cannot just forget and get over it. And it's Serbs who keep provoking them which we could see in the last few days. Bosnians themselves don't stir up any trouble but you cannot expect them to ignore obvious provocations either.
>>224630916Bektashis are basically masons so
>>224631039>If you live in a building where bullet holes are still visible, you cannot just forget and get over it.Bullet holes can be patched you know.
>>224630880Serbs and Greeks have similar schizo theories about AlbaniansGreeks also have similar stuff about Turks or any other non-Greeks.Turks about Armenians, Greeks, Kurds. Bulgarians and Serbs about us and so on Yes Greeks were mostly on the islands and the coastal area and the inland was Albanians, Aromanians and Turks and they hellenized these.They were planning to hellenize all the Balkan, including South Slavs and Romanians. But taht doesn't mean Greeks themselves didn't exist
>>224631126>Bullet holes can be patched you know.yeah, if your country is rich and you can afford to renovate everything at onceBosnia is notalso some definitely should stay to remind people of what can happen if the world is filled with hatred rather than love
>>224631171The "Romanian" (probably Hungarian + jewish + Romanian) obsessed with Russians claims Serbian secret service terrorizes Vlachs in east Serbia daily so they don't identify as Romanian, yet to see any Serb schizoposts against Romanians desu. Very rare.I know what you speak about but the schizo theories about Romanians are almost never mentioned.
>>224631171schizo theory or fact?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Muslims_during_the_Ottoman_declinei repeat again: neither back then during the ottoman empire nor today in modern turkey did the word "greek" exist.
>>224631213>yeah, if your country is rich and you can afford to renovate everything at onceEvery Bosnian has three of these at his home though.
>>224631227It's actually interesting how the Vlachs in eastern Serbia retained their "Vlach" identity while the ones in Vojvodina generally consider themselves Romanians. I guess these in A-H were just more educated than those in Turkey so it was easier for them to absorb the idea of modern nations.
>>224631253so why you didn't rebuild the ministry of defense building in Bg? you had 500k Bosnians residing as refugees in Serbia so you couldn't complain about lack of workforce, right?
>>224631272That's actually true and didn't occur to me at all, thank you for educating me about my country for the 20th time.I have a Romanian who married into my family. Though not really my family tehnically speaking but they are my family in practice.Cool guy. He translated the song (the song) from those guys for us before google translate was a thing.>>224631306See >>224631213>also some definitely should stay to remind people
>>224630611This "map" hurts my eyes.
>>224630350idk. my country lebanon has been part of many entities over the centuries
>>224631343AI is so bad but just today I learned my cousin who works as a programmer lost his job to AI so it seems AI can replace codemonkeys but cannot make accurate historical maps to save his life.
>>224630350>What's your country's equilavent to this?I don't know what you mean by this.
>>224631361Bulgarians larp as Lebanese now?
>>224631322>I have a Romanian who married into my family.uhhh don't say it aloud or the Croats will come up with their>Srbi su Vlasi (kada privremeno nisu Turci/Romi) narrative again>also some definitely should stay to remind peopleyeah, that's why Bosnians don't renovate their houses either
>>224631361What are you doing in Bulgaria?
>>224631171you are a roma schizophrenic nigger obsessed with gayreece and vlachs for whatever fucking reason like you could have created an exclave during WW2 lmao, truly delusional on par with shit turds believe.
>>224630350>failed even to conquer the whole GreeceLol. What a meme "empire"
Good thread
>>224630611>ai generatedkiss yourself
>>224631405i'm not bulgarian>>224631428not sure what you mean. i was born here and my parents are lebanese
>>224631272"Vlach" is what they use when talking to Serbs, they have a version of Rumîn they use with each other.
>>224631410>uhhh don't say it aloud or the Croats will come up with theirThere used to be this good window where mostly normal Croats posted (Sure, they posted stuff about Serbs I didn't like but they were not that much off the mark and you learn a lot about your people from other people's mouth sometimes) but now I am thinking of filtering them because they became really insane. >>224631464It's not serious, chill. Exploiting Turkish wordplay (((thread))).
>>224631435lmao
>>224630630To je samo iq 90 patuljko. Poljaci, cesi i slovaci preziru muslimane i albatrose.
>>224631491Ok. As far as I know there is no ethnic conflict between Romanians and Slavs in Serbia which sounds quite exceptional as in that region usually everyone hates everyone (sad!). Probably the common religion helps. >>224631523I'm 130 iq doe
>>224631447Southern Greece was a chaotic and remote shithole full of bandits. It was a very difficult region to govern. Then you have to deal with Venetians too. It's actually a miracle we held it so long
>>224631523Patuljko polu-bejtuje i nije ozbiljna licnost. Covek malo spusta loptu kod nas da se ne prepucavamo stalno.
>>224631553>Southern Greece was a chaotic and remote shithole full of banditswtf how could it be possible if it was inhabited by sons of the philosophers and phalangists?
>>224630880>sophia is actually shekhinah who gets raped by serpent demons in order to destroy the earthIt's fascinating to me how so many people around the world think "sophia" in "Hagia sophia" is some kind of woman and it's a dead giveaway of how fucking stupid they are and that their opinions are not worth anyone's time
>>224631575>polu-bejtujehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rFzL3jh5EA
>let's fight in Quora threads with over a thousand pages and locked replies over who owned some valley a thousand years ago or who invented roasted meat on a stick, layered pastries and mashed chickpeas o algoWhy are you Balkanoids/Asiatics like this?
>>224630350Nothing. We have always acted as a whole
>>224631638Last time Quora was good was 2 years before I got hospitalized and was so bored I had to install Quora and that was ages ago and even then it was full of jeets.Why do you have Quora installed in 2026?
>>224631553Um we've held it since 1949 and only lost a handful of guys.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Welchhttps://usnamemorialhall.org/honorees/capt-george-tsantes-jr-usn/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Nordeen
>>224631638Thirdies desperately grasp for relevance of some kind so they need to larp that once in the past they were this big strong successful nation and that they have their own original totally non nfluenced ""cuisine""
>>224630630>The reason we act like a sub-iq monkeys and kill our ethnic brothers is something that took place 600 years ago in a different part of the Empire.I dare say Serbia is the worst country in Europe.
>>224631676I don't.>>224631690Interesting.
>>224631592That's why we never had a romanticized view of Greeks here like westerners do. Turks and Greeks lived side by side for hundreds of years. We know who they really are.
>>224631638>let's fight in Quora threads with over a thousand pages and locked replies over who owned some valley a thousand years ago or who invented roasted meat on a stick, layered pastries and mashed chickpeas o algoThis but it's also a muscular Turkic guy in black and white photo saying it.
>>224631691Ottomans were here until 1912
>>224630350like 1/3 of israel was occupied for 1875 tears jerusalem was occupied for 1894 yearssome parts have only been liberated this year
>>224631691Better than believing Lindsey Clancy's husband strangled three children and donating money to her while being empathetic to her supposed "mental illness" xD.
>>224631553saaaaarrrr it was the zainichi mountain turd bandits who the ottoman elite saw as subhuman donkeys not your average muslem anadolian giga mutt peasant living like a nigger it clearly says it here in this ottoman text which I can't read saaaaarrr
>>224631715>Greeks... le bad
>>224631740I can't understand you. Speak english
>>224631736>Talking nonsenseI guess this what a few NATO missiles do to a mf.
>>224631638>tf>tplet's not mention Ceuta...
>>224631809>In Ottoman court literature and bureaucratic documents, you can find deeply unflattering phrases like Etrak-ı bî-idrak ("the witless Turks"), Kaba Türk ("the rude/coarse Turk"), Türk-i bed-lika (the ugly-faced Turk), Türk-i şütür-ban (the camel-driver Turk), Eşkiya-yı Etrak (the Turkish bandits), and Hımar Türk (the donkey Turk).Does this make more sense? It sounds like the only thing the ottoman elite didn't call turks was roaches but they were close kek
>>224631553>>224631686btw you caused me to just find this outhttps://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2026/05/release-of-alexandros-giotopoulos
>>224631862If we are all the same people they can call themselves Serbs tomorrow. Wait, they won't. Because we aren't the same, got it. Your point is moot.I can actually give a proper series of replies to everything, from morals to history, but I actually won't. I don't concern myself with retards who don't know basis of ethnos, assuring it's perpetual continuation and a man's role in society.Bombs are not enough. To turn us into docile cattle you need tanks in Belgrade. But regarding myself even that is not enough as I find your docility and hidden malicious intents so repugnant that I would rather chose death than have anything to do with your mentality.I do not hide behind some words like "democracy", "human rights" and whatever stupid terms you hide behind while being the most hypocritical retards possible.I know Serbs are hypocritical. It is a man's job to be hypocritical and take hardline stances. I simply stick with my own people and love them. I don't care about the rest.
>>224631638they have nothing else
>>224632076What is "nothing else".Serbia has scientists. Serbs eat nice food. Serbs listen to bad and good music. We live in houses or apartments. We love women and sports. Though too many criminals (mostly abroad, not much petty crime here) and we have some littering issues, plus corrupt government, that's pretty bad. But for example, Croats are also prideful people and have less of these issues.Wait, I know what we lack. Democracy and thinking Lindsey Clancy didn't do it xD.Also, can you give me a nice graph where you can explain to me how would despising our country and forgetting it's history raise our GDP? Do we have economic research showing this?I do not see North Macedonians becoming richer and European after they renamed their country and made Albanian an official language.
>>224631891Where do you think the descendants of people who used those words live in right now?
>>224632224in Glendale and Williamsburg
>>224632224berlin
>>224632446>>224632640They are right here. People from central and eastern anatolia are still hated to this day. See pic related. This gayreek retard posts this everyday like it's some eye-opening informationOttoman elite was the Turkish speaker muslim population of balkans and western anatolia. After the french revolution the idea of nationalism became stronger and these people embraced the Turkish identity more than they used to. Before that Turk mostly meant Turkmen nomads in anatoliaPretty much every balkan or armenian christian subject who became rich under Ottoman rule did so by sucking Turkish cock and were hated by other christians for it
>>224630350Why is western Thrace 1919 we owned that shit then
>>224630521well modern turks exist since 1923, mehmet
>>224632787why Turks couldnt boast about their empire being a scientific or industrial superpower instead of constantly bragging about muh military muh conquest i mean, it might make an impression for oriental people but from the western viewpoint it looks rather pathetic.
>>224632787>Ottoman elite was the Turkish speaker muslim population of balkans and western anatolia.>Ottoman Turkish (Osmanlıca) was the official language of the court, administration, bureaucracy, and high literature. It was a form of Turkish based on Anatolian Turkish grammar but heavily loaded with Arabic and Persian vocabulary, grammar, and stylistic elements—sometimes estimated at 70–88% non-Turkish words in elite registers. This made it largely incomprehensible to ordinary people and served as a marker of elite status and education.LMAOOOOOOOOO roaches trying to distance themselves from the araps and the persians as much as possiblewill never stop being hilarious
>>224632787lmfao
>>224632787Western Anatolians are not Turks. The real Turks are from Central Anatolia and Eastern Anatolia.
>>224632972Ottoman Turkish was a written language not spoken. Everybody including the sultan spoke a clearer language in their daily lives. You have no idea what you're talking about
>>224633705>You have no idea what you're talking aboutBut that's like 99.1% of roaches online
>>224633705>Ottoman Turkish was a written language not spokenthis part is funny because modern turks can't even read ottoman turkish because of the script. but wait neither their ancestors could kek
>>224633764No arguments like always>>224633845Anything worth reading can be read in latin letters. I actually read few novels from the late 19th century
>>224633906the way you typed this tells me you don't have many in common with ottomans of the past. >I actually read few novels from the late 19th centurywhy don't you read novels from the 16th, 17th or 18th century though? surely a great majestic empire would have left us with hundreds if not thousands of literary masterpieces
>>224633845We can't read old cyrillic stuff either, and most people didn't read back then too. Most of our relevant literature is in latin script, unless you count things from Cantemir or Ienăchiță Văcărescu which are converted to modern script anyway..
>>224634164>We can't read old cyrillic stuff eitherI do, speak in your name, rootless gypsy.also turks can't grasp old ottoman elite turkish in the same way we understand old Romanian>and most people didn't read back then toowe had small schools in towns or small religious schools funded by monasteries and we printed books, a thing ottomans never did because sheytan o algo. latter there were initiated higher schooling units like Academia Sfântul Sava and Academia Mihăileană, the latter being founded to replace an older school.>Most of our relevant literature is in latin scriptwe don't larp as le great magnificent country of the past. we limit ourselves at a few voivodes and that's it. prior to cuza every piece of literature was written in Cyrillics.>Ienăchiță Văcărescuif you consider him a great 18th century writer you are a retard
>>224634051>the way you typed this tells me you don't have many in common with ottomans of the past.What do you mean? Pretty much all of our traditions for example come from Ottoman period >why don't you read novels from the 16th, 17th or 18th century though?Because western style novels became a thing here in the 19th century when we were going through westernization. Before that you only had stories mostly spread orally. They are still well known today. Nobody wrote novels because they were simply not a thing here. I just looked it up and google says the first Romanian novel was written in 1855
Evropa really failed our greek brothers
>>224631867It's ours because we conquered it, simple as. A better example would've been Gibraltar, doebeit.
>>224634417and what masterpieces were written down in those centuries? It doesn't have to be a novel specifically >I just looked it up and google says the first Romanian novel was written in 1855pretty sure 'Istoria ieroglifică' by Dimitrie Cantemir is at least 300 years old.
>>224634627>It doesn't have to be a novel specificallyThen it's very easy. Sabuncuoğlu Şerafeddin wrote a very important medicine book. It's outdated and not the kind of book you would read today though. It's 600 year old after all. Just one that came to my mindMy favorite though is the travel diary of Evliya Çelebi from 17th century ''seyahatname'' He visited evey region of the Ottoman Empire and some parts of Europe and write down his experiences. I didn't read all of it but it was an extremely funny book. There is a part where he describes a magic battle between witches. It reads like it's straight out of Harry Potter books and you can tell he was just shitting on local retards who believed in magic and shit. I need to read the rest one day. Very funny and informative book
>>224631891>look mommy i posted it againSeriously, what the fuck is wrong with you retards? Every other Greek here is some mentally ill sperg who neglects his personal health to gain more time to spam copypasted garbage about us.
>>224630350It’s funny some people blame Qing dynasty for losing territory. They actually conquered more for China.
>>224634941>Sabuncuoğlu Şerafeddinthis is a new name for me, thanks
>>224635142That's true but you also make threads about them everyday. The degree of obsession seems to be around equal.
>>224634164Hungarian protestants tried to teach romanians to read and write in their own language in the 16th century but they rejected the idea
>>224635247>Hungarian protestantsit was mostly saxon protestants but okay
>>224632836modern turks are successors of the ottoman empire, modern greeks are successors of nothing.
>>224635588modern greeks can read 2500 years old inscriptions while modern turds can't read their grandparents' gravestones
>>224635588Turks gonna succeed Germany and Austria too I see. I mean, it's perfectly fine. You know what pride is while the Austrians and Germans are being "civilised" unlike those Balkanshits. Gotta not be prideful, otherwise they might want their countries back xD.
>>224635679>WE WUZ200 years ago these modern greeks were named abdul and mehmet themselves.there is no difference between them and israel.
>>224635735don't be too sarcastic towards austrians, they invented your ethnicity when they annexed saraybosna (which was later slavicized to "sarajevo) and other parts of bosnia and committed a genocide and christianization campagin towards the native bosniak population.
>>224635679btfoed that brownie
>>224634941>There is a part where he describes a magic battle between witches.Interesting I've only read about the parts where he travels through Bulgaria. I remember there was a lot of weird stuff about unknown kings, history and places that historians debate whether were distorted real ones or made up
>>224635737the only wewuzing here is yours, mehmet. you can't read any ottoman era document, not even your great grandparents' gravestone
>>224635679Do you think learning how to read a script is some unachievable feat or something? Also, Greeks are only able to read ancient texts because they straight up abandoned their modern language.
>>224635787Yes, Austrian schools taught my ancestors who were sitting in one of the most remote mountains in Europe what they are xD.
>>224635812then why are they able to read byzantine and 300yo documents and even to understand these to a higher degree than a random anatolian fed on bread only can understand some posh ottoman letter from the same era?
>>224635801i never cared about white nationalism but nothing is more ridiculous, if something like this comes your mouth.
>>224635781>tf>tp
>i never cared about white nationalismI wanted to say that it's hilarious that Turks think they can be considered white if Balkaners are laughed at, but considering just how amazingly well Turks integrate in Germany and that you were allies in WW1, it's quite safe to say that Turks are actually more EVROPEAN than any Balkaner, at least from their perspective.Of course, Balkaners cannot be EVROPEAN because they're Turkish. But Turks can.
>>224635901fun fact: most israelis are originally from the ottoman empire. and unlike ashkenazi jews, they are just random turkish jews who faked their surnames into spanish ones, so they can claim to have fled from the spanish inquisition. they are even granted citizenship in portugal because of this.seinfeld makes jokes about the ottoman empire, his grandpa is named selim. you can't make this shit up.
>>224636033why don't you go back to your beloved homeland diasporoid?
>>224636101it's currently occupied by the christian saturn worshippers.
>>224636033Yeah, I believe it, especially when you see a lot of Turkish citizens deciding to migrate to Israel and fight for them in their current war. But a lot of Sephardic Jews did flee to the Ottoman Empire.Also, Selim isn't a Turkish name to begin with.
>>224630350Peru didn't really exist as a nation or concept before the spanish conquest, so i'd say it was the chilean occupation of lima
>>224636133so it's better to go in another country ruled by other christian saturn worshippers? damn mehmet you're such a low iq inbred of the armenoid race to the point is actually better for your countrymen being replaced by hard working smart kurds as the recent PISA results proved
>>224636248literally that asshole who invented the term "greek yogurt" (which doesn't exit anywhere else in the turkish, arabic or persian world and is just called filtered yogurt there) is a turkish jew named izak karasu (which is a turkish word for black water) and he faked his surname to isaac carasso to claim to be spanish. tons of other sephardi jews did the same, while others just started calling themselves randomly perez and lopez.
>>224630538But the ottomans strictly prohibited its muslim subjects from buying land, permanently settling, or constructing mosques in the romanian principalities. You have nothing to complain of unlike say, hungary or croatia.>>224630682Are you hispanic? portuguese? filipino?
>>224636554Wtf, I hate Jews now (except the few that accept their Turkic identity)!
>>224636577while it is true that moslems weren't allowed to settle or build mosques here, ottomans practically broke the agreements between us and them by naming greek christian rulers who brought nothing but oriental barbarism, povery, pests and fiscal burden while strengthening the sultan's influence here. while the austrian turkjeet is a low iq diasporoid larper he is somewhat right in the sense that ottoman-era greeks were not so different from western anatolian turks in mannerisms, habits and culture, both being seen as pesty orientaloids here and despised up till the 20th centuryhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phanariots
>>224631715>Ethnic Greeks and Armenians made up a massive, disproportionate share—frequently estimated at over 50% to upwards of 80%—of the commercial and professional urban middle class in the late 19th- and early 20th-century Ottoman Empire, particularly in major trading hubs like Constantinople (Istanbul) and Smyrna (Izmir).
>>224637117>photo of a greek couple next to a turkish vinegar merchant in Smyrna, 1919but i guess we were all barbarian bandits guyz, shame we were not as civilized as the turks (only got an alphabet in 1920s btw)
>>224637232you are not greek bro
>>224637327no one is.
>>224637327we are actually the real grix, ignore the other pretenders in the thread, they have bulgarian blood inside them and are not pure
>>224637401but this guy >>224637354said no one is greek. you are basically a hellenised turk whose name was originally abdul just 3 years ago bro
>>224637462hellenized by whom kekis this part of the same gypsie lore that says you guys made a special deal with God to travel between borders or something?
>>224637611pretty racist thing to say
>>224637232Roaches in Anatolia really lived lived like niggers since the times they were turkified kek
>>224631715>We know who they really are.99% of turks from the creation to the end of the ottoman empire couldn't even read the gravestone of their grandfather in their own language.you're a murderous nation of scammers who gossip all day. how do you expect such people to understand what Greeks write about the meaning of life, true friendships or how to run a state?
>>224637232Lmao absolute state of turks
A history of the evolution of Serbians, from ancient to modern day:Miroslav the Slav>the first slav who decided to move from his mud hut to the ruins of a Roman city, thereby being the cultural genesis of the Serbian peopleSofija Sofiovich>born into a peseant family during the height of Ottoman power, she was chosen by a passing band of soldiers after they killed her father and raped her mother, she was then gifted to the sultan and became the head Turkish cock polisher, becoming the most powerful Serbian woman everDragomir Dragonovich>ardent Serbian/yugoslav nationalist, once quoted as saying "Bosnia is the land of our people, regardless of religion. I am as Bosnian as I am Serbian, I love these people, they are my own", responsible for the rape and murder of 10,000 bosniaks and Croats in the 90s. Still celebrated as a national hero today; posters with his face are quite popular among Serbs during inter Balkan football matchesThe end. That's all you people are known for.
>>224637401> real grixReal grix look like this?
>>224630350Fun fact, the slavs (then the Turks later) raped Greece so hard that a bunch of the original Greek names of towns and roads were lost to time/the people were either genocided or assimilated and they were expelled or murdered during the population exchanges in the 20th century. So the butthurt Greeks did a mass renaming campaign in which they invited a bunch of Greek """scholars""" to make up a bunch of fake names. They did this because they wanted to show, and I quote: "The result of these policies was a successful restoration of a distant past through nationalism to show that modern Greece was "really the same country as classical Greece". Nowadays it's literally a crime to refer to Greek city and village names with their Turkish or Slavic counterparts, you can go to jail for doing it.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_name_changes_in_Greece?wprov=sfla1Right now, on /int/, some Greek dog who lives in Zeusopolis or Heraclesopol, is crying about Shiptars or Serb/Turkroaches or some shit, not knowing that his own shithole village was renamed because they don't remember the original greek name. Funny how shit works, innit.
>>224637953the original population of kıbrıs looks like this. just wanted to mention him because he produced some great albums.
>>224634514Who conquered it?
>>224638009Geeeg, do they really?
>>224637953it's interesting how they look closer to Pontians than to mainlanders
>>224631035hairy ballsack
>>224638009>ancient greek names are lost because the ethnic replacement throughout times>a drastic ethnic change occur again so greeks rename those places by following the older names>also we ignore this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Place_name_changes_in_Turkeywoahhh it's this, it's this the power of diaspora??
>>224637953you need melanins to protect against the sun gringo
>>224638245they just randomly changed old ottoman names into greek ones, that's it. mora became "peloponnes", iskeçe became "xanthi", midili became "lesbos"...imagine the yunans posting 24/7 on /int/ "turks are gay" threads while their country literally renamed a turkish island into lesbians.
>>224638436>t. changed smyrna in izmir, constantinople in istanbul, galipolli in gelibolu, lesbos in midiliataturk fought to eradicate the low iq ottomans just so erdodoga to piss on his grave
>>224638009I mean you're right but why wouldn't they do that? Pretty good if you get away with it which they did. Only autists know about this shit. Greeks took the land, largely Greekified it and now everyone just comes to Greece to tan. Almost nobody knows about it.
>>224638436Xanthi looks more Iranian than it does Greek honestly.>>224638538Uhm, Chuddie, it's ISLAMBOL which translates to "There is plenty of Islam.".
>>224638538no, islambol was renamed into istanbul and gelibolu was gelibolu.
>>224638436lol
>>224630502They were always heehaw retards
>>224637953those with the question marks look like churkas
>>224638689I'm pretty sure there are written accounts from 1500 years ago saying the opposite but wait turks can't even read anything before the 1920s lmao
>>224638549i mean what were they supposed to do keep places called islamabad or whatever because some sultan renamed it for one of his whore wives?shiet i mean here we still kept the old names for the random ex turkish neighborhoods so you have some kara boga street in the middle of the city and its always some ran down shithole full of gypsies
>>224638785yes i'm sure written accounts also tell that palestine is actually israel's holy land and jews split the river in half there with the help of moses.that doesn't make it less bullshit though.
>>224638850That's not the only thing they did but I consider it pretty based.
>>224638882see? this is what I'm talking about. You have anything to do with ottomans. You are just a by-product of ataturk westernisation policy and if it weren't for erdodog populism you would have passed on ottoman legacy too
>>224637953>Afentiiis, we are white! We Greek founder of civilisation i kati tetoio!
>>224630502unironically 100 years of ottomans equals one nuclear bomb
>>224639206you forgot to disable the subs diaspora kun
>>224639262True, but what do we do about the 2025 PISA image they discovered?
>>224636554greek yogurt was invented by fage mohammed, time to start your medication
>>224639294>Greek>talking about diasporaYeah, you would know with 1/3rd of your population living abroad.
>>224638097The Portuguese (Spaniards).
Kek two Turks under German and Austrian flags are acting superior and one is making fun of diaspora, man go get a spine.
>>224639206there are more turks in germany than Greeks outside of Greece
>>224639381trυke>>224639413idk about that shit i lived here all my lifewhy are you living in Germany instead of glöriüs türkiye?
>>224639487Doesn't say much when they have a small population to begin with. As I said, 1/3rd of Greeks lives outside of Greece while maybe 1/10th of Turks live outside of Turkiye.
>>224639506I live in Germany because I was born here. I lived here all my life. :)
>>224639647where were your parents born albeit
>>224639421Stop it, let them in peace. To each it's own
>>224639506You'll have to leave once we liberate the south too. The clock is ticking
>>224639696Turks don't care about lineage. It's foreign to them.
why are diaspora fags like this?its not even funny anymore
>>224639756so you can sell it to uk for 2 goats and a carpet like you did last time?
>>224639696Mine were born in Turkiye but there are Turks around my age whose parents were also born in Germany. Just depends on the time your grandparents came over. And if your family came to Germany around the 80s chances are you are the child of a commie or a terrorist.
>>224639806You have no problems with selling it to jews and russians?
>>224639574>As I said, 1/3rd of Greeks lives outside of Greecebecause your people genocided them>1/10th of Turks live outside of Turkiye.because you are surrounded by your own people
>>224639759technically, you aren't native in your country either. most of the kıbrıs natives live now in antalya, adana, mersin, izmir as well as united kingdom and australia.
>>224633845they could read a goat's asshole just fine (so they could fuck it when they weren't fucking their sister)
>>224639903We never genocided Greeks though. That's a lie they made up after genociding Turks to cover up their own tracks and play the victim.
>>224639953It's the usual suspectsYou lose again
>>224639888its free tax money>>224639905did turks inherit the lack of self awareness gene from the indians o algo?
>>224639750Just bantering with our bros, m8.
>>224640080the usual suspects made turdiye point higher in pisa scores so be more respectful. also your map literally states it doesn't include marriages prior to 2020 which is a no brainer since ethnic turds don't breed anymore
Why are there so many Austrian and Germany flags defending Turd-gay?
>>224640267Cousin fucking has always been taboo in Turkish society. Your cousin is like a sibling to you here>the usual suspects made turdiye point higher in pisa scoresTurkish students scored higher than Germans while the usual suspects are kenya-tier
>>224640376If you think that's many, then image how many more there would be spouting retarded conspiracy theories and hypernationalist drivel about the shithole they left, IF GLORIOUS HELLAS didn't veto these subhumans from entering the EU.
>>224640394kurdistan is a warthorn shithole, but you will think it's safe to equal them with a real country.meanwhile your youth is made up of kurds just like ours is made up of gyppos
>>224640394adult data is more important than what stupid tiktok addicted teens do
>>224640540>kurdistan is a warthorn shithole, but you will think it's safe to equal them with a real country.>socio-economic reasons bro>meanwhile your youth is made up of kurdsTurkish birth rate crashed very recently. We will be fucked in a decade or two but right now our population is still very young
>>224640598ok we all know turkey is a shithole but what is wrong with your country hans? bavaria is trully best germany
>>224631035The Croatian>20. century literacy>21. century gdp/capita>left vs right wing voters>land claimed by Greater Serbia>quiet vs loud peoplemapand much more!
>>224636577Well the Spanish did to the Muslim Moros of the Philippines what the Turks did to Christian Greeks of Greece, except that instead of using Muslim Slav Balkanoids like Albanians to colonize Greece as per Ottoman Turkey the Spanish employed Christian Latin Americans like Peruvians and Mexicans to BTFO the Muslim Moros of the Philippines, with the Spanish successfully using Mexicans, Peruvians, and allied Filipino who were still practicing Hinduism and hated the newly arrived Muslims, in converted Manila and Zamboanga from Islam to Christianity, but they had less success in converting the interior Sultanates though. Even though they did eventually militarily subjugate them.
>>224641583>20. century literacyThat's more along the lines of the former Austrian Empire.
>>224642519>sudden transition from cyan to orange while it's maximally 10% differenceThe image is true but it's making some areas look more horrendous than it is.
>>224642519Eastern Croatia and Northern Serbia were repopulated by people from the north parts of the empire (Germans, Czechs, Slovaks, Rusyns) after the area was reconquered from the Ottomans. But after events like world wars where the Germans and non-Slavs were being expelled and killed, and the 90s war in Croatia which especially impacted Eastern Croatia, those places in the 21. century had become less developed than the rural North Croatia
>>224639421Castilian trash
>>224642141https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish%E2%80%93Moro_conflict
>>224646248Actually you Portuguese taught us to fight the Muslims before the Spanish ever did.As early as the beginning of the 1500s; Portuguese Goa recorded the presence of "Lucam" or "Luções" Hindu and Muslim Filipinos from the island of Luzon (Luçon) from the Hindu Kingdom of Tondo or Muslim Manila (Brunei Sultanate's colony) who worked as allies or mercenaries of Portugal to destroy the power of the Gujarat and Malacca Sultanates.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LuzonesDo you know that our first Prime Minister in the Philippine War of Independence against Spain was a Portuguese? His name was Trinidad Pardo de Tavdra, and his family comes from Tavera Portugal.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinidad_Pardo_de_TaveraOther Iberians who rebelled against Spain were important officers too.Our first Emperor Andres Novales was Mexican and our first admiral was a Cuban Vincente Catalan.
The Crusader character of Filipinos predate Christian colonization. We were already Pseudo-Christian allies to Portugal (At least Luzones were IDK about Visayans and Maguindanaoans) who mixed Christianity with indigenous Hindu-Animism or Islamic-Animism, before Spain came from Latin America.
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>>224630350Closest thing to it
