The arguments of democracy stem from the promulgation of the school system. If you teach idiots how to argue, that's how democracy spreads.

alright so what's better? Narcissistic strongman surrounded by a bunch of brown-nosing yes-men or a spoiled retard holding the power simply because he happened to be born in royal family?

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>>224637028
The biggest myth of democracy is that it gives power to the common citizen, all democracies are actually oligarchies.

>>224637188
Democracy is the best form of government. Except all the others.

>>224637028
worst democracy > best strongman daddy

>>224637290
Democracy goes against natural law. It's the nonsensical idealism of French "philosophers" that have zero clue about reality
>>224637332
If you are fucking retarded, you may actually believe this.

>>224637328
denis you have a russian passport, you can always escape le decadent wect

>>224637378
If your mother was not the whore of a Turk, you would have the dignity to hate this system. But alas.

>>224637416
2nd gen freaks trying to find identity in mentally ill contrarianism is the opposite of dignity

>>224637450
How much for an hour with your daughter?

>>224637332
dunno, I'd rather live in Singapore than here

>>224637450
Hey, I asked you a question
What happened to your dhimmi pride?

>unprecedented 100 years of peace and prosperity throughout Europe
>akchually this fucking sucks because uhhhhhh people are dumb or something
ok chuddie

>>224637650
>unprecedented 100 years of peace and prosperity throughout Europe
Yeah it's unprecendented if you are historically illiterate, like all democracy supporters. There have been many centuries of peace before the telvision educated you to only believe in this unworthy peace.

>>224637593
Singapore is a very rare exception of benevolent dictatorship and any comparisons with them are retarded anyway because it's a tiny city-state. Governing a city-state is nothing like governing a big country.
If you have to, use Salazar as an argument. Or Kaddafi.

Trve, being forced to partake in this shitty system feels like a humiliation ritual

>>224637750
Benevolent democracies are actually the very rare exceptions
If you knew anything about the real world you would know this.

>>224637685
>There have been many centuries of peace
Go ahead and educate me, list some historical periods where no country in Europe was at war with another

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>>224637798
This is how the cowardly despicable democratically elected leaders behave when common people enter the same building they are in, without their bodyguards checking in on them
Obviously these protestors did nothing, but they instinctually understood that any healthy population would have massacred them without mercy.
>>224637849
>st some historical periods where no country in Europe was at war with another
Okay ignoramus:
Following the catastrophic Napoleonic Wars, the Great Powers of Europe (Britain, Austria, Prussia, Russia, and later France) established the Concert of Europe at the 1815 Congress of Vienna. This system aimed to preserve monarchical stability and maintain a balance of power to prevent any single nation from dominating the continent.
Initiated under Augustus Caesar following the collapse of the Roman Republic, the Pax Romana ("Roman Peace") is the longest period of relative stability in recorded European history.

How Peace Was Maintained: Rome established an absolute military monopoly over Western and Southern Europe, the Mediterranean basin, and parts of the Near East. By eliminating competing sovereign states within its sphere, internal warfare was replaced by imperial administration, trade, and infrastructure development.

>>224637810
>If you knew anything about the real world you would know this.
If you think these vague, pretentious non-arguments make your takes seem any smarter, they really don't.

>>224637650
>unprecedented 100 years of peace and prosperity throughout Europe
That's not because of democracy, it's because Europe has vassalised itself to America, in effec giving up its own sovereignty

>>224637928
Yes of course. Democracy believers need to seem smart because they know they aren't. I know that my intellect is far greater than yours, which is why I don't have to bother with this pretension of polite discourse.
Polite discourse can only be had with equals. Not your ilk

>>224637944
Dude, he won't understand that.
Don't expect actual insight from democracy believers.
You are not actually arguing with a person, you are arguing with the television channel that taught them this garbage.

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Another quality Russian propaganda line. Seen three schizos go on about democracy now.

>>224638155
Every time someone attacks the intellectually brittle idea of democracy, someone has to bring up Russian bots.
Russia is the same liberal democratic kakistocracy as Germany, USA, Britain etc. just on the other side of politics.
It seems to me that if any side employed disinformation bots, it would be the democratic western states, because deception is the ruling mechanism of democracy.

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>>224638155
Nice democracy you've got there, faggot

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>>224637606
>pajeet tier melty
that's new, i guess you aren't denis
3rd world vpn shill or just a regular 2nd gen mutant?

>>224638275
Don't you feel embarassed for supporting democracy, knowing that democratic countries are only ruled by the most corrupt, honourless, insects there are?
The only explanation for this would be if you are one of these insects yourself.

>>224638310
source?

>>224638407
My source is my Intuition. Something you obvious lack.

>>224637911
>Okay ignoramus: *pastes AI slop*
so you don't know shit and had to google it
>How Peace Was Maintained:
lmao, you could at least delete the headlines
>1815
I can google shit too:
1853 - Crimean war between hivans, turks, bongs and frogs
that's precisely 38 years of peace
Post-WW2 peace between European democracies lasted since 1945 until now and is still going strong, which is 81 years
You could argue it was interrupted by Yugoslavia but (1) it was an internal conflict, and (2) it was transitioning from communism to democracy, so it hasn't established itself as a proper democratic republic just yet. And the ongoing war between Ukraine and Russia doesn't count either, because Russia is neither democratic nor fully European (in their own opinion).
You are hereby defeated by FACTS and LOGIC, dumb chuddie.
Democracy = peace and development. It is the svperior system. Long live democracy, long live Evropa.

>>224637028
Correct. Democracy is as delusional as communism yet receives half of the hate.

>>224637944
>That's not because of democracy, it's because Europe has vassalised itself to America, in effec giving up its own sovereignty
Call it however you want. Nobody in Europe is bombing or shooting each other and did not have to for decades, which is a great comfort you take for granted. Countless generations dreamed of such privilege, but never got to experience it. We are living in a golden age.

>>224638576
Correlation is not causation. You could argue that "100 years of peace and prosperity" in Europe coincide with those countries legalising abortion, but we both know that baby-murder has nothing to do with Europe's period of relative peace.

I never understood this myth that democracy stopped wars, when democracies have engaged in wars of aggression numerous times throughout history.

>>224638748
Spain was a dictatorship for 40 years, was Franco constantly at it with Portugal and France? Correlation does not equal causation. Europe's peace is because it has subjugated itself to an outside power, European countries have given up their own interests in favour of maintaining their overlord's hegemony.

>>224637982
This entire block of text is just more of the same, empty posturing and random projections.
Not sure if you're an ironic retard or an actual retard, but a retard nonetheless.

>>224637028
That's also monarchy, autocracy, republicanism, junta, and all forms of Marxism though so you're just a lying by omission brainlet.

>>224638229
>Russia is the same liberal democratic kakistocracy
It absolutely is not, they have the same guy in charge for the third decade now and he can do pretty much whatever he wants (like start a war), which would be impossible in Europe. Imbecilic take.

>>224639057
He got democratically elected every time though :)

>>224638429
>My source is my Intuition
lmao, clown thread

>>224638754
>when democracies have engaged in wars of aggression numerous times throughout history.
Not in Europe, unless you count Ancient Greece, but their democracy was nothing like the modern one.
>Correlation is not causation.
Don't use fallacies like they're magic spells. Cause is very clear, most people don't like wars and any politician proposing a war would become very unpopular and could never hope to maintain power.

>>224639340
Poland and the UK joined America's war on Iraq.
>most people don't like wars and any politician proposing a war would become very unpopular
Trump campaigned on a promise of "no more forever wars" and now he's stuck in a fight with Iran. Politcians lie all the time, what makes you think they wouldn't lie about starting wars?

>>224637028
What I dislike the most about democracy is it that inevitably sets roughly half of the population against the other half.

>>224638796
>Spain was a dictatorship for 40 years, was Franco constantly at it with Portugal and France?
Don't pretend to be retarded, Franco's Spain was busy with a bloody civil war. And at some point they did send soldiers to support the Axis, so they didn't exactly stay out of trouble.
Salazar would be a much better example of sensible dictatorship anyway, do I have to make your arguments for you?
>Correlation does not equal causation.
Abracadabra!
>Europe's peace is because it has subjugated itself to an outside power, European countries have given up their own interests in favour of maintaining their overlord's hegemony.
Given up their interests such as having wars instead of trading and building stuff? So apparently without a nanny watching over them Europeans are too stupid to figure out peace is good?

>>224639432
>Poland and the UK joined America's war on Iraq.
not a war in Europe = not my problem
>Trump campaigned on a promise of "no more forever wars" and now he's stuck in a fight with Iran.
not a war in Europe = not my problem
>Politcians lie all the time, what makes you think they wouldn't lie about starting wars?
Can you honestly imagine UK and France invading each other nowadays? Or Germany trying to annex Czechia? Swedes and Danes slaughtering each other? Even Balkans apparently calmed down, accidentally after dividing themselves into democratic republics. The only thing that could upset this order would be hivanese stooges purposefully D&Cing EU and NATO, but that would be an external, antidemocratic force, so my point stands. European democracy = peace.

Get back here hivans, I am not done dismantling your shitty propaganda
You will have to work overtime to earn those rubels

>>224640124
2/2

How likely is it a case such as Sweden's and Norway's happens again? If the Hungarian government convinced the Hungarian people that Hungarians in Slovakia were in danger, would the Hungarian people stop their government from taking military control of the Hungarian parts of Slovakia? Would the same happen if Austria tried to seize South Tyrol? If Catalonia managed to successfully break free of Spanish rule, do you doubt that the Spanish government wouldn't try to reintegrate them militarily?

>>224640124
>>224639682
The Spanish civil war ended in 1939, France and Spain under Franco restablished relations in 1950 following the commencement of the cold war, and relations between the countries were good for he rest of Franco's reign. France even kicked out the Spanish Communist Party from its borders because it wanted good relations with Franco.

Portugal under Salazar was a founding member of Nato and had close relations with the rest of Western Europe.
>Given up their interests such as having wars instead of trading and building stuff?
Given up their territorial interests. Do you think Germans weren't bitter about giving up East Prussia? Do you think Austrians aren't bitter about South Tyrol? Do you think Hunarians aren't bitter about the land they've lost to Slovakia, Romania, Croatia, Serbia, Ukraine?

So many territorial issues in Europe are frozen simply because of the EU and NATO. One of the reasons for creating the predecessor to the EU, the European Coal and Steel Community, is to bind France and Germany together economically to try to stop them from going to war again. isn't democracy, but the EU and NATO that are maintaining the peace between countries in Europe.
>>224640124
>not a war in Europe = not my problem
So it's not that you're arguing that democracy prevents wars, you're arguing that democracy prevents wars with countries that you care about, and that is true to some extent. After all, it was the Swedish people going on strike and the Swedish military mutinying in 1905 that stopped Sweden from preventing Norway from declaring independence after the democratic Swedish government tried to crush that independence movement. But this resistance to the war wasn't democratic, it wasn't done through the ballot box, voting out of power the democratically Swedish politicians who wanted war, it was an act of civil disobedience, and it depended on enough people from those two counties liking each other enough

>>224640906
>If the Hungarian government convinced the Hungarian people that Hungarians in Slovakia were in danger
How would it do that without brutally imposed censorship and a massive propaganda campaign? That would require an authoritarian system. Not really doable in a modern democracy.
>If Catalonia managed to successfully break free of Spanish rule
Call me when that actually happens. The last attempt lasted seconds and turned out to be a nothingburger.
That's another trait of democracy - it has a neutering effect on separatist movements. When they have no circumstances to feel like plucky freedomfighters against an oppressive empire and are more of an annoying larpy nuisance against bureaucracy and practical problems of running a state, a romantic revolution suddenly seems kind of retarded and not worth it.

>>224641374
Israel is classified as a "modern democracy", and many Israelis are adamant that the West Bank belongs to them.
>When they have no circumstances to feel like plucky freedomfighters against an oppressive empire and are more of an annoying larpy nuisance against bureaucracy and practical problems of running a state, a romantic revolution suddenly seems kind of retarded and not worth it.
Hasn't stopped Corsican from committing bombings as recently as 2023.

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>>224637028
>NOOOOO DEMOCRACY IS HECKIN BASED POWER TO THE PEOPLE YOU BOOTLICKER
>*votes for welfare capitalists backed by billionaires and the state*
Are demsocs retarded?

>>224641573
>Corsican
*Corsican nationalists