Do you guys really hate me and my country (Israel) that much or is it all just silly banter?
>>224989427Don't hate IRL israelis, but israeli posters on /int/ are usually turboschizo and extremely annoying.
>>224989427I hate Israelis IRL and on /int/
>>224989427i'd love to say i only hate governments, not the people. but israelis are an unique case of where the people are actually more despicable than the government, somehow.
>>224989427You personally no.Your country yeah stop fucking around and making things worse for literally the whole fucking globe israel already destroyed the world economy once in the 70s and now its done it again
>>224989518Why do you think so? We're not that much different to everyone else
>>224989427an israeli seeded me a torrent recently with a capped upload speed of 1 kilobyte a secondit took 10 days to download
>>224989606Kek I'm sorry
>>224989427I don't know you personally, but I'm fairly convinced that the world would be a better place if you faggots died at this point.
>>224989427i love ur country and would love to visit the western wall one day and lament the destruction of the Temple of Yerushalayimhttps://files.catbox.moe/a9wwps.mp4
no but i also want to distance myself so it’s a bit conflicting
>>224989427From what little I understand your leaders have a tax funding scam going on with my leaders (AIPAC), and keep poking the middle east constantly causing issues. Trump was tricked into fucking with Iran by your leaders recently which pissed off a lot of people. And your leaders seem to have a habit of being a bunch of ungrateful shits as you look down your nose at us while taking our money. Domestically people are also increasingly noticing a lot of issues associate with jewish groups, like in entertainment/media, and more recently the welfare scamming at ton of orthodox jewish communities are abusing. I don't think the groups are in league I just think at a cultural level the jewish diaspora encourages these kinds of behavior. In times of economic stress a lot of Americans see these kinds of things and become resentful as they themselves are struggling, but are forced to fund people who aren't, and are walking on eggshells to not insult a protected class of people, like the recent issues with Ed Sheeran and his friend/coworker getting unilaterally blacklisted. I think the reason why the US supports Israel so much outside of scamming taxes, is that it keeps the middle east destabilized, and it takes a chunk of the blame away from the US.
>>224989427guess
>>224989427I don't personally hate you, but I do think your people (Jews + Israelis) as a whole are responsible for more bad than good in my life, and that my life would be better without them in it
>>224989427i dont really care. the goyim hate each other so there would still be wars without you
Those who bless Israel will be blessed. Those who curse Israel will be cursed
>>224989427real life events aside, Israeli posters are fucking annoying so yes, you can all die for all I care.
Carrying on an active genocide will do that. Yes I hate China too.
when people talk about hating america or israel they dont mean the average citizens, they mean the state, specifically the ruling class and politicians than run itno one in America is supporting war, other than those who profit from it and a few crazy red neck racistsdo you hate all iranians?
>>224991557No, I don't hate Iranians. I'm quite fond of them actually. I mean this is kinda a bad example though, because there is a huge group of Iranians who really like Israelis
do not reply to shitraelis.
>>224989427i don't hate anyone except amerigolems
>>224989427I like Israel because they're ready to butcher endless feral brownoids rather than accepting they should die to let the brown biomass multiply for a few decades over their carcasses before gracelessly collapse as well
>>224991648Sexo?!?
>>224989427You're alright lad
>>224989427Hate is a strong word, I think most people just deplore your countries actions.
>>224989427I have family there, for all I know you're my cousin
>>224989427I wouldn’t personally hate on an individual Jew or Israeli. I’ve met good and had some Jewish friends. I would say I am still a bit antisemitic though. Jewish culture just gives me massive ick.
IDK but I think Blumpf bombing Iran for Israel's benefit earlier in the year has made people hate Israel for more than the Semite conflict
>>224989427Why would it be silly banter?
>>224991979This but also the sheeran fiasco I think entertainers shouldnt involve themselves in politics but neither should stadium owners. Alas.
>>224989658T. Syrian or Turk larping as an Aryan
>>224989427
>>224989427we hate the country, not necessarily all the people in it
>>224992320>pedo swirl
>>224992338This isn’t true btw. People hate Israel because they hate Jewish people and Jewish culture. Everything else is a lie to cover that.
>>224991467>>224992406Don't make me tap the sign
>>224989427i don't care that much about israel, i mostly hate other european nations
Teach me how to make money and gain power behind the scenes.
>>224989427Not really no. In fact I like Israel and Jews.
>>224989427I don't hate any individual human until they have proven themselves an evil. I do strongly dislike your nation because they practice evil and discriminate against Christians. No one religion should control the holy land.
>>224989427I hate you guys more on /int/ and that's really something
>>224989427Israel controls most of the media, banks and politicians in the west, so hate or envy at the very least shouldn't come as surprise
>>224989427Local Israelis in your area iyc?(This is the second number they spammed us on after we didn't reply to the first message)
>>224989606It seems your download was circumcised brother
>>224989427the middle east is a giant shithole thats been fighting wars since forever and it will continue that way, the world would be a better place without you
>>224993476>the middle east is a giant shithole thats been fighting wars since forever israel is the reason for middle eastern clusterfuck
>>224993866And engerland, and burgland and rusland and germgorod.really if we had just left them alone things would probably be functioning quite well by now.
nah. i like a good show
>>224989427I hate you with every fiber of my being
>>224989427I love Israel more than any other country on earthAnd I love (You), anon, more than any other person on earth.
>>224989427Yes i hate you
>>224989427no I don't, I just think your ultranationalism is unlikablebut it doesn't mean I dislike Israel and Israelis in general
>>224989427no. islam and muzzies are my worst enemy. my best friends a coin clipper. israel looks quite fun. i'll make jew jokes until the end of time, but its just that. jokes.>inb4 but le heckin jooz made you hate the mooslims asa psyoperino!its from my personal lived experiences.
>>224993463KEKThis post deserves something, I just dunno what
>>224994629Islam and jews work together to destroy this country though.
>>224989427Jews and Israel? Not necessarily.Zionists and their on-going bid at supremacy? Opposition comes with the territory I suppose, always has.
>>224994828Zionism in its basic form just means you want a homeland for the Jews i.e. Israelso saying you're not against Israel but against Zionism makes no sense
>>224994875It makes sense to accept the state within certain boundaries, but to oppose further expansionist efforts.
>>224991634eles estão aqui tbm rapase apruma
>>224994908yeah I agreebut you shouldn't misuse the words if you want to be taken serious
>>224991557Why do Brits still just repeat whatever they hear on television?
>>224994978Not really a misuse, you can condemn Zionism in its entirety and also accept that Israel is a country recognized by most of the world.
>>224995045it is a misuse, because when you argue like you then you are not in favor of Israel's existence, you just say it's a fait accompli
>>224995082I fail to see the issue here. You seem to be quite hung up on the "Existenzrecht Israels" thing, which afaik is a German political discourse, for the most part.
>>224989427All the Israeli women I've met have been hot and friendly and laugh at my jokes, so I like Israelis. I am completely neutral (in that I don't care) about either Israel's or Palestine's political futures.
>>224989427I hate Israel with a passion. But not individual people.However I have to say israeli poster on this board are annoying arrogant little shits.
>>224995135no it's not just GermanZionism just means the desire for a Jewish national state, so Israelif you condemn Zionism in its entirety like the Chilean you can't say you don't take an issue with Israel
>>224989427Your country is committing genocide and causes multiple wars in the Middle East, what do you think?
It's funny to see how your people treat amerigolems
IRL first-gen Israeli-Americans are just hapless MENAites from what little I've seen, think of the kind of people who were out cheering for the meme shah
>>224995158https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existenzrecht_IsraelsNotice how this article doesn't even exist in English?And it's perfectly consistent to be indifferent towards the existence of Israel, or even oppose the underlying ideology, and still accept Israel as a geopolitical reality. Also, reducing a historical ideology to a first-order-principle is pretty short-sighted.
>>224989427Hating the people because you dislike their government is low IQ and third world coded
>>224989427I don't hate jews except for certain Israeli tourists (not all) who come to the Philippines who are probably just insane
>>224995250>it's perfectly consistent to be indifferent towards the existence of Israel, or even oppose the underlying ideology, and still accept Israel as a geopolitical realityyeah, but then you shouldn't complain when you are called antisemitic. Because in this case you only accept Israel because it is a fait accompli and you would reject it if it was feasible to prevent/destroy it.
Different flags, same ideologies
>>224995306How is that antisemitic?
generally speaking, yes. you and your government. pretty chill /don't hate jewyim who realize what's happening is undeniably evil. But it doesn't help given 9/10 jews online are in support of what's happeningyour people are like my people, but somehow worse. Despite having all the capacity to know and learn the truth your people act even more uppity. I hate my own country and people too, so there's a reason why i hate you
>>224995346being against the existence of the Jewish state is antisemitic imo, just like being against the existence of the German state would be anti-German.
>>224991557Why do Anglos always have a need to wrap shit in a way that makes them appear as inclusive and non racist as humanly possible? Obviously no one is going to say "I hate this and that country except all the people who don't support their current ruling regime or their policies" because it's already implied and expected. Yes you can say you hate xyz no one is going to castrate you for it
>>224989427Looking at your recent behavior, I’ve finally understood why Europeans have detested you for 2,000 years. I’m just glad you aren’t our neighbors.
>>224995367And why did that Jewish state have to be created in Palestine, in spite of an existing population there?
>>224995437because it's the ancestral homeland of the Jews with their holy sitesalso there were Jewish people there too, just fewer than the local Arabs, and the local Arabs had no state when the Jews proclaimed theirs
>>224995437Because Jews are indigenous to Judea, and that the name 'Palestine' was a Roman invention designed to sever that connection
>>224995484It's also the ancestral homeland of Christianity with holy sites. Palestinian Christians are genetically the closest people to JesusIsrael is bombing churches in the region, they want christianity to disappear there
>>224995537Christianity is no ethnicity like Jews areChristianity is a universal messianic religion, Judaism is an ethno-religious group with few convertsI agree that Christian sites should be respected and criticize Jewish nationalists who disrespect them but your argument is silly
Only if you are a bad person
>>224995537Jesus was literally a Jew and Christianity started as a Jewish movement there. “Genetically closest to Jesus” is made-up shit because we don't have Jesus' DNA, and a church getting hit in a war doesn't magically prove Israel wants to eradicate Christianity
>>224995484How did European Jews have a stronger ancestral connection to Palestine than the Arab Muslims, Jews and Christians living there?>>224995495>Because Jews are indigenous to JudeaProofs that European Jews are more indigenous to Judea than Palestinian Arabs?
>>224995580>Genetically closest to Jesus” is made-up shit because we don't have Jesus' DNA,Because it likely never existed. Palestinians are still genetically closer to sampled Canaanite dna than Israelis are. >>224995562Judaism are not an ethnicity, Judaism is a cult
>>224995582>How did European Jews have a stronger ancestral connection to Palestine than the Arab Muslims, Jews and Christians living there?I didn't say they did but Judaism as a whole certainly does. And after being persecuted for centuries and at the end gassed and burned, do you think it's unreasonable they wanted a state on their own in where their group comes from?>>224995614>Judaism are not an ethnicity, Judaism is a cultJews are an ethno religious group, you're being holier than the pope if you complain about mixing up Judaism and Jewish people
>>224989518this but i wouldn't use the word 'hate', more like disgusted/repulsed .The only exception to this rule was Bobby F. and a few others ,may his soul rest in peace/heaven/Valhalla
>>224995367If Kurdish people seized large parts of Turkey, Syria and Iraq and established a state there the majority of the people in those countries would reject it. Would that make them anti-Kurdish?
>>224995484>my retarded book says we lived here 4000 years ago so now we're gonna steal your homes and genocide youFrance should do the same in west Germany
>>224995582When did I claim that Jews are more indigenous than Palestinian Arabs? Jews being indigenous to Judea doesn’t require Palestinians to be foreigners. My point was that Jews aren’t just random Europeans who picked Palestine out of a hat. It’s the Palestinians who constantly claim that it belongs to them alone. That’s why there’s constant war anyway. They reject attempts at peace and two-state solutions, then lose and complain about it.
>>224995644do you hail from the Indus valley per chance?
>>224995629>Jews are an ethno religious group,No they aren't, they're a cult.
>>224995651yes>>224995652okay Mamadou>>224995668see >>224995662
>>224995662No>>224995658>Jews aren’t just random Europeans who picked Palestine out of a hat. Then who are they?
>>224995678>everyone who doesn't worship my genocidal state is a muslim ackshuallyTell me you're a braindead israeli without telling me your a braindead israeli
>>224995683Jews. A diaspora population descended in substantial part from ancient Levantine/Judean populations, with later European admixture. You know exactly what I meant. No point in playing stupid
>>224995562The existance of a kingdom or a promise from 3000 years ago is not a good reason for a country to exist in modern times. Palestinians have lived there for a very long time, it's rightfully their landIf you see jews as an ethno-religious group you have to recognise the different ethno-groups of jews. Most who live in israel right now are from russia and are not indigenous to the Levantine region. Israel has one of the highest skin cancer rates after all. The jews who live in israel right now are not from there and never were. The actual Levantine jews lived together with muslims and christians in Palestine. A lot of Levantine jews are actually pro-Palestinian, they lived in Palestine for many generations after all.
>>224995704>A diaspora population descended in substantial part from ancient Levantine/Judean populations,More than the Palestinians, yes or no?
Germans just can't stop supporting genocide. They learned absolutely nothing from ww2
>>224995699I'm not worshipping Israel lol. My opinion of it is just not hysteric womanlike as yours. Go chant free Palestine while Paris burns I guess.>>224995718I don't care, Palestinian Arabs had no state and the area was an underdeveloped shithole when the Jews came in big numbers. There was a reasonable partition plan which the Arabs rejected, got btfo time and time again, Israelis were ready to compromise for decades but Palestinians weren't, now they cry genocide.
>>224995747>There was a reasonable partition plan Why was it reasonable?
>>224995759because it gave the Arabs a sizable part of the land (which they had no state on at that point) and the UN approved itI really wonder why people like you are so in favor of the Palestinian cause if you're truly a white European.
>>224995771>which they had no state on at that pointAnd what IS a state? Why is having a state a prerequisite to Palestinians owning the land their ancestors have lived on for thousands of years?
>>224995718 the ending is just something you pulled out of your ass. Mizrahi/Levantine Jews are not some uniformly pro-Palestinian group that was happily living in perfect harmony with Muslims until Ashkenazim showed up. A huge number of them came from Arab countries after persecution and expulsion; in Iraq alone, about 124,000 of 135,000 Jews had left for Israel by 1951 after the Farhud and worsening persecution. If anything, Mizrahim often have more historical reason to distrust Arab nationalism than Ashkenazim do. “Skin cancer rates” also aren’t a ancestry test
>>224995791the Jews bought much of the land in Palestine so they owned a big chunk of it when Israel was created. I think you actually don't know very much of the history and are just very anti Israel like a lot of western soyboys are for some reason.
>>224995791>doesn't know what a Jew is>doesn't know what a state isDo you know anything?
>>224989427I find /isr/ to be one of the more entertaining generals
>>224989427This board is full of muzzies.
>>224995813>the Jews bought much of the land in Palestine so they owned a big chunk of it when Israel was createdWho did they buy the land from? Did buying that land come with the right to secede and form a breakaway country later on?>>224995823 is having a state a prerequisite to Palestinians owning the land their ancestors have lived on for thousands of years?
>>224995629>Judaism as a whole certainly doesDebatable, Christianity arose there just as much, and Jerusalem is quite an important holy site to Muslims. It also seems more reasonable to me to say that the people who continuously inhabited the area have more of a claim to the land than foreigners with mythical narratives connecting them to it.>after being persecuted for centuriesPlayed a role in many European Jews seeing themselves as outsiders in Europe, but what was just as important was nationalism just being fashionable in 19th century Europe.>and at the end gassed and burnedThe Jewish colonization of Palestine has basically nothing to do with the Holocaust.I don't think it's unreasonable that they wanted their own state, but I also don't see why their national project is entitled to anyone's support, lest they be antisemitic,>you would reject it if it was feasible to prevent/destroy it.was fallacious btw.>>224995658>It’s the Palestinians who constantly claim that it belongs to them aloneStraight-up lie. Who has been preventing whom from establishing their state, and who's ethnically cleansing whom?>They reject attempts at peace and two-state solutions, then lose and complain about it.Another lie, Israel has been undermining Palestinian self-rule in the West Bank for more than 20 years and keeps taking territory.
>>224995872Constantly asking stupid questions makes you look stupid btw, not smart
>>224995892Is having a state a prerequisite to Palestinians owning the land their ancestors have lived on for thousands of years?You refuse to answer this question because you know how ridiculous it makes your position look.
>>224995872From the local landowners, Arabs or Ottomans mostly. And the only one who they "seceded" from was mandatory Palestine, a british mandate, not an arab palestinian state. Also as the other German flag said maybe it's time to give it a rest.
I dont hate israelis individually but the actions of the zionist government like bombing hospitals and buildings where innocent people live is something I don't support
>>224995901>for thousands of yearslolactually Palestinians have lived there for millions of years
>>224995747Israel ethnically cleansed most of Palestine, millions of people and is still illegally occupying more and more land with violence. Gaza is the largest concentration camp in human history. They deliberately target innocent people like children and rape and kill them. It's genocide, why do you not condemn israel?
>>224995747>>224995924Revealing your true colors, I see. Sad.
>>224995807There are many jews who are pro-Palestinian, most have an actual connection to the region unlike all those russian jews
>>224995904>From the local landowners, Arabs or Ottomans mostlyDid that sale of land come with the right to break away and form a separate country later on, yes or no?>they "seceded" from was mandatory Palestine, a british mandate,Was that secession legal, yes or no? >>224995924You answer flippantly because you can't properly argue your position.
Israelis believe they have the right to rape
>>224995926most of your post is exaggaration, without context or flat out wrong. Btw, how many times have you thought about the events in Sudan?>>224995943the Arab conquest happened 1,400 years ago. It's ridiculous when posters say the Palestinian Arabs lived there for 'thousands' of years and reveals how little historical understanding they have. But whatever, believe what you want, I think you don't know enough about what you have a strong opinion on.>>224995953I can properly argue my position, you only ask question because you can't, so you're projecting. I never claimed Israel is 100% "legal", whatever that means. International law is a vague concept. But the closest we have to it is the UN, and Israel's creation was ratified by the UN.
>>224995996Sudan is actually pretty well known because of this deflection lol how about we all give Mali some energy
>>224996035well I rarely see western soyboys seethe about Abu Lulu as much as abou Bibi Netanyahu
Israel is an evil nation, from the very definition of the word "evil". Every israeli I have met IRL and here defend Israel and its behaviour Therefore, I see Israelis as evil and I hate them
>>224995996>how many times have you thought about the events in Sudan?Whataboutism, nice>I think you don't know...Do you seriously think that the "Arab" population spawned outta nowhere because of the Islamic conquest? Palestinians are Arab-Canaanite mutts with a direct genetic connection to ancient populations of the area.I think it's time for you to stop pretending you're the reasonable one in here.
>>224995996>I never claimed Israel is 100% "legal", whatever that means. International law is a vague concept.So what use is there in you bringing up the fact that Jews owned land in Palestine before the creation of Israel? You still haven't answered my question about whether Jews or Palestinians are genetically closer to the ancient Canaanites.
>>224995996>Btw, how many times have you thought about the events in Sudan?This is just deflection. I also think about Sudan
>>224995886"Straight-up lie" how? In 1937 the Arab leadership denounced partition. In 1947 the Jewish Agency accepted partition and the Arab Higher Committee rejected it outright. In 1978 the PLO rejected the Camp David framework for Palestinian self-government. In 2000 Arafat left Camp David without accepting an agreement. In 2008 Abbas did not accept Olmert’s proposed two-state deal. In 2020 Abbas explicitly rejected the US peace plan. How many times does Palestinian leadership have to reject some form of partition, coexistence or negotiated settlement before I’m allowed to call that rejectionism? And then in 2006 Palestinians elected Hamas’s Change and Reform list to 74 out of 132 seats, after which the Hamas-led government refused to commit to nonviolence, recognition of Israel or the previous agreements underlying the two-state process. Yeah, that’s not exactly great evidence for Palestinians demanding peaceful coexistence
>>224996047Are we providing Abu Lulu or anyone else in Sudan with diplomatic cover and material support?
If someone supports israel it's usually because they hate muslims and want muslims dead
>>224996120>In 1937 the Arab leadership denounced partition. In 1947 the Jewish Agency accepted partition and the Arab Higher Committee rejected it outright.So the party that stood to gain the most from that partition accepted it, while the party that stood to lose the most rejected it.
>>224996093okay. So you think they have a claim to the area because they lived their immediate ancestors lived there longer in the past 1,000 years. The same is true for Germans in the former eastern territories Silesia, Pomerania, East Prussia. Most of the past 1,000 years those territories were German inhabited. How often do you call for the return of these areas to Germany? Or is it different to the argument you make about Israel/Palestine?>>224996107because you mentioned the land ownership. Do you even read your own post?>>224996136we buy way more from Israel than we sell them and if we stopped supplying them we would fuck our struggling economy even harder but I know retards like you would cheer for that.
>>224989427I have nothing against your country itself. I just hate jews with all my heart.
>>224989427the state of israel is a genocidal and expansionist state, that's just the truth. bit mad the mental gymnastics people make to avoid accepting that fact. I don't have to respect israelis
>>224996156>because you mentioned the land ownership.Did the colonial authorities selling land to Jews before the creation of Israel give those Jews the same legitimacy to those lands as the native Palestinians who were living there for thousands of years?>>224996156>we buy way more from Israel than we sell them and if we stopped supplying them we would fuck our struggling economy Can you denounce Abraham and Yahweh for me real quick, because I'm starting to suspect that you're Jewish.
If you were to write a list of evil actions, chances are that Israel are doing most if not all of them systematically >raping men, women and children>seeing oneself as superior as others >bombing schools, hospitals and refugee camps>celebrating the death of innocent civilians>laughing in the face of the people you torment >stabbing your friends and allies in the back>playing the victim and crying when you are the bullyThe list goes on and on
>>224996221He's not Jewish, he actually believes there is a genocide in Palestine. This guy is a retard
>>224989427No actually. It's the only competent state in this disgusting raped shithole region. Most Arabs would lose their shit and howl if they were ruled by da yahooooooooooood but Jews are at least competent and decent at governing and management instead of the corrupt retarded calamitous collective that is ar*bs
>>224996221I'm not jewish, I'm a regular German. I just don't see why a white European would prefer Palestinians over Jews when we do good business with Israel and the Palestinians here do organized crime for the most part.>>224996235there are at least 3 different German anons ITT. I don't think there is a genocide in the sense how it's commonly understood.
>Israeli expansionism and blackmailing of US politicians is causing economic havoc around the world>there are still amerimutts and eurocucks who insist on calling you muslim if you don't lick Bibi's bootsWhat causes this
>>224996251sure thing Shlomo
>>224996251Oh lol, I thought there is only two of us. Nice
>>224996251>I just don't see why a white European would prefer Palestinians over Jews when we do good business with Israel My empathy isn't dictated by money, which side is murdering the most children at the moment?
>>224996261>t.look u statistics.Germans and Czechs are not hysteric about Israel like other Europeans.
>>224996251>I just don't see why a white European would prefer Palestinians over Jews when we do good business with IsraelCan you stop being German for a second and question your human morals instead of trusting your nazi instinct?You are approving genocide like your grandpa
>>224996274There is no genocide. It's not a genocide just because you're losing, Mohamed
>>224996120Nice canned response, if you looked into any of those except for maybe the white paper rejection into any amount of detail, you'd quickly notice that these deals were massively skewed, and Israeli behavior over the years doesn't paint them as good faith actors whatsoever.>>224996156Are Germans in the process of being ethnically cleansed in Eastern Europe? The fuck kind of deflection is this?And no, Germany, or anyone else for that matter, is not economically dependent on Israel, now you're just making shit up.
>>224996272probably because you are cucked into kissing jew feet as part of the corriculum because>oy vey remember the shoah
>>224996290Pretty sure it meets all legal criteria of genocide.
>>224996271I don't think its true empathy because I would bet my ass you never wrote this much like ITT about human suffering in Sudan or Ukraine or elsewhere. You're just a biased soyboy butthurt at Jews.>>224996274do you unironically think the Nazi bullshit argument is effective at this point?
>>224996290>There is no genocideso the Red Cross, Amnesty International and the world's leading think tank on Genocide Studies are wrong? What do you think a genocide is? Can you define the term in your own words
>>224996272Don't even try to pretend that you're not supporting Israel due to successful emotional conditioning lmao
>>224996325more civilians had been killed a few months into the Israel genocide on Gaza than almost five years of the Russian-Ukrainian fullscale war.
>>224996325This one doesn't even work for non-americans right now because gas is 9999 bongs per litre
>>224996325Aaand the whataboutism again, nice
>>224996325Ah yes, people famously dont care about the Ukraine conflict, truly a forgotten war
>>224989427Israelis are nationalist are very unpleasant peopleBut in general i do not hate them of course and you are a frogposter which means youre probably based
>>224989427>Do you guys really hate me and my country (Israel) that muchYes>or is it all just silly banter?no
OP here. Sorry I was asleep. Thanks for all the nice replies tho
Imagine unironically defending a country that hates you and wants to flood your country with brown people :skull: :skull: :#1goycattle_award.png:
>>224991557No I really do hate americans.
>>224996406kys
Not supporting genocide? We don't do that IN GERMANYWhy are you talking about Palestine? Why aren't you ignoring it and only focus on Sudan and Ukraine like we do IN GERMANY?
>>224995993Yeah all 10 million of us think exactly that
>>224997067Most of you support genocide
>>224997124it's self defence
>>224989427Yes to both
>>224997141Genocide is never self defense. You're committing genocide because you want to eradicate Palestinians and create an ethnostate for jews only
>>224997141no it's not to a large part, settlements in the West Bank are active policy and arguably constitute genocide if we take the legal definition (increasingly making Pali living there impossible)but apparently you either have to be a Jewish-Israeli ultranationalist or a soyboy chanting from the river to the sea and there is no middle ground
>>224992406No, they hate it because it's an illegitimate Apartheid regime that uses the Holocaust as a front. Western neonazis and mossad work hand in hand.
>>224994799Your country's imperialism is what keeps israel alive
I CALL LOW IQ
Let me ask yall dummies a question: why THE FUCK do you care about us, Israel, if that's completely not related to you?Why don't you for example, care for the massive genocides happening in 3rd world countries in Africa?
>>224995135Not him. The american said that he doesn't oppose israel, but zionism. So the german correctly pointed out the contradiction.
I know a bro who visits Israel - hes a chill dude.
>>224995306Hold on; what is antisemitic in opposing zionism?
The discussion about this issue isn't even scraping the bottom of the barrel, it's digging underneath. The Israelis I've met are either wise, mild-mannered, tough or an assortment of those three characteristics. They're like South Africans or Rhodesians, and I don't trust people who whinge about Saffas & Rhodies. Because they're typically immoral shitlibs who shirk any duty or national pride. I don't expect Balinese to have a positive opinion on the shithead Aussies running amok there, who are the kind of Israelis I expect these anons have interacted with
>>224997267because of our history, our economic relationship and bc I've been to Israel and know a few Israelis myself. I've mostly defended you ITT FYI though. I'm a generally interested person though and know about other international issues too. I wish Israelis were as interested in German affairs as German are in Israeli affairs.
>>224997267Because your glowies blackmailing the Trump administration into waging war against Iran is driving prices up all across the board
>>224997267Thread already cycled thru this crap 10 posts up
>>224995367One does not derive from the other, also a genocide against Palestinians is by definition anti-semitic. European jews are converts.
>>224997293>what is anti German in opposing Germany's existence?idk bro, do some heavy thinking and you may find a clue
>>224995484>the local Arabs had no state when the Jews proclaimed theirsThat is colonialism justification, what you just said.
>>224997329yeah, and?
>>224995562>Judaism is an ethno-religious group with few convertsLiterally half of israeli passport holders are mizrahim.Then you have the Ethiopians.And the whiter than the Snow Queen slavics
I despise the big yahu and some of your tourists have weird entitled attitudes like russians, but i'm mostly alright with israelis
>>224997293What the other German flag said also having no Israel would mean all the Jews in the area either get deported or simply killed by the Arabs
>>224995629>I didn't say they did but Judaism as a whole certainly does. And after being persecuted for centuries and at the end gassed and burned, do you think it's unreasonable they wanted a state on their own in where their group comes from?Crusade justification
>>224995739Merz said that "israel" is doing the dirty job for european imperialisms.
>>224995771The UN plan gave more than half of the land to the jewish settlers who conprised less than half of the population.
>>224989427ilu
>>224995807>Mizrahi/Levantine Jews are not some uniformly pro-Palestinian group that was happily living in perfect harmony with Muslims until Ashkenazim showed upThey were and are. The head of the Martyrs of Al-Aqsa military campaigns (I think) was recently arrested, he is a Philistine jew.
>>224997298>defending kikeskek
>>224995996We also have International Courts, two of them, according to whom Netanyahu has commited crimes against humanity.
>>224996035Good point, the french have been bombing it like it's nobody's business.
>>224997510this is muzzie propaganda
>>224996251>the Palestinians here do organized crime for the most part.Loool, gtfo, shill
>>224997298>because of our historyWhat specifically about your history? Do you feel guilty that your grandpa Fritz gassed some Jews? You don't need to feel that guilt, you're not responsible for your grandpa Fritz' (based) actions.
>>224997528https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICC_arrest_warrants_for_Israeli_leaders>>224997506
>>224997577nice taqiyya
>>224991557You are retarded broNever speak again
>>224997589>>224997506
>>224997316I did some thinking and here is what I came up with; firstly, the definition of germany has changed a lot through history (you know, history, things that actually happen) and so in 1941 my country was germany too. People opposed that proposition. Were they antigerman?People also have challenged the notion that their country is england, throughout the globe.
>>224997608It's the Bavarian faggot
>>224997642>>224997528
>>224989427Why wouldn't we hate you lmaoI was willing to accept you removing what's left of Palestine and just be done with it already since you'd never be able to have peace anyways and even less with all of the West Bank settlements, but then you had to invade Lebanon and take a chunk of Syria. You don't even pretend to care about killing endless civilians anymore.On top of that your politicians are a bunch of smug schizoid bastards with a god complex getting unnecessarily involved in things like the Falklands conflict, the invasion of Ceuta or trying to keep the USA on a leash. Even if some governments support Israel for strategic reasons, the average citizen has no reason to have a single positive thing to say about you.
>>224997642that was pretty obvious desu
>>224997663remember, pic related happened after floods killed people in Spain
>>224997679actually it wasn't you stupid vagina
>>224997449Europe does not benefit from israel's "dirty job" at all. All it does is cause instabilities in the middle east and millions of refugees who go to EuropeIsrael is a threat to Europe, not an ally
>>224997690:(
>>224997711>flagAgdshab, you HAVE to go back.
You're no different from those you hate. You should hate you too. Why shouldn't we?
>>224997731I am 100% Dutch, I am not a muslimBeing against genocide does not make you a muslim, it makes you a human
>>224997684Yeah I remember that as well, even though a bunch of comments on Facebook don't represent the whole country, but there's really no reason to have a positive relation with such a country that will even use his allies like USA as dispensable cannon fodder
>>224989427i'm a nafri migrant here, i don't see israel any differently than any arab country you guys are just as dumb as us and just as ruled by religious retards as we are and if anything, you should join the arab league and consider yourself arab or something
>>224997711To you it is. Not to shareholders of Bayer/Monsanto, Lockheed-Martin, car manufacturers, Microsoft, Amazon and career military.
>>224997780We should eat the rich
>>224997744LOL
>>224997796Yeah, we should.
>>224989427nah, i know success breeds jealousy
>>224997847based
>>224997803You would have loved Hitler if you were alive back then
>>224997847Success, I certainly wouldn't swap places with them and we both just lost the same damn war
>>224997885no, hitler was mean to jews and poles so he can NEVER be a friend of mine
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>>224989427No for me if you are a wage worker, you are just an other goy.
>>224997624kek no wonder you're not German.
>>224989427I've interacted with a few jews and they were alrightNever interacted with Israelis myself but I've heard from people working in the touristic sector (restaurant staff, receptionists etc) that israelis are the worst of the worst tourists they can get and everyone tries to avoid them.I don't really have any strong opinions on the country itself.
Israelis are the only group on the planet who will spit on you for extending support. Make of that what you will
>>224998388this is SO hot uwu
>>224997943taqiya
>>224989427I don't care about middle eastern affairs at allNot a fan of how your religion (or at least some of its denominations) considers goys to be an inherently lower category of human beings, that's just really rude
>>224989427We probably were the most pro-israel country before the war
>>224989427i only hate individual people and only if i personally know them irl
>>224989491understandable
>>224989427No I don’t. Every country on earth has always and will always simply act in whatever they perceive their best interest to be, and all the moralfag posturing is gay and retarded. Any western chud would 1000% be a pro-Ben Gvir chud were it not for the accident of their birth making them born in Europe or America rather than Israel, and this goes double for any and all brownoids, only white people are mentally challenged enough to be so buckbroken that they sometimes go against their own best interest for brownie points from thirdies
>>224989427>is it all just silly banter?I think most of it is. Larping as edgelord is just too much fun to resist.I've never met an Israeli. Or a jew in fact.
The gentiles just lie about us relentlessly and throughout history that was used to create permission structure either to pay off the sins of the masses through collective scapegoat or just outright barbaric lust. I get that there are many decent people who don't engage in this shit, but when the movement is that big, this pathological and this mentally ill, I can't help but have a small, humble, distain for you guys. There's not a single Israel related subject, thread or just anything everywhere at any time that doesn't degrade into this cesspit of lies and talking points that stem from deranged obsessiveness.
>>225004577>I think most of it is.It isn't, fuck them
>>225004619shut up
>>225004619of course, everyone is anti-semitic and evil and israelis are immaculate
>>224989427I doYou are genocidal pieces of shit
>>224992320> al jazera news I bet she died of aids
>>225004619>moshaaaar we dindu noffin moshaaar its antisemitic zainichi goy lies moshaaaar israel most moral nation on earth 2030 moshaaar
>>225004619there’s not even much point saying this out loud desu. with these people every possible response just gets folded back into the same story anyway. agree with one accusation and it proves the rest, deny it and you’re lying, explain yourself and you’re doing hasbara, say nothing and apparently that proves it too.you can spend years being reasonable and giving people the benefit of the doubt and eventually you just notice the terms were never reciprocal. so whatever. let them think what they want.
also the constant "do you really hate us?" shit from jews is cringe as fuck. stop begging gentiles for reassurance when you already know what half the replies are going to be. if someone hates you they’re not going to suddenly grow a conscience because you asked nicely, and if they don’t then you didn’t need to ask in the first place
i automatically assume anyone who cares about the death of some cave dwelling arabs is a diasporafag himself until proven otherwise
>>225005251this is sadly not the case, did you see american colleges, they're just really retarded like that
>>225005174>>225005249>>225005251shut up
Germany really did a number on these people >>225005312>>225005251>>225005249>>225005174>>225004619
>>224989589civilised people don't engage in genocide, ethnic cleansing, and racial/religious supremacy, justified because your book said sosomething you'd expect from nazi germany, but good job on earning the nickname nazionist.>why do they persecute me so :(((( everyone but me is to blame
>>225005312no blue haired american college student posts on 4chan, i'm talking specifically about this board
>>225005383oh okay that's probably mostly true
>225005383>225005410>Jew samefagging to bait responsesshut up
>>224989427You should have made the Lavi
>>225005373"your book said so" lol yeah man that's definitely why there's a war and not the massacre that started it
>>225005489filename
>>225005489we are two different anons but i do like him. more than you anyway
>>224989589All of my interpretations of israelis are from the internet so I'm fully willing to take back any of my opinions if they are incorrect but I get the feeling that there are at least a good amount of isrealis that genuinely believe they are "better" than the rest of the world. That their religion makes them special in some way or something, that they are the chosen people. That mindset simply disgusts me. No one is that special, there are billions of humans on this earth, we are all just meaningless ants in the grind of evolution. Am I wrong? Maybe most Israelis are completely normal and don't harbor any equatable beliefs. I wouldn't know. Also what is the average Israeli's opinion on the current events? Do they denounce what their military or government does, even if not in public just at least in the privacy of their own home?
>>225005542>>225005575Has either of you ever tried acting like a human being? This "oh why do they hate us so" while at the same time trying to throw insults at people voicing moral objections to genocide is extremely cringe and transparent.
>>225005516and this justifies genocide and by definition war crimes how exactly? or a war with iran, landgrabbing in syria, bunch of assasinations, invading west bank because why not, PM wanted for war crimes, being a greatest ally that spits in your face. collective moral corruption is the only thing that makes sense. we'll never know
>>224997267>if that's completely not related to you?Your parasitic peoples go out of their way to inject themselves in political structures around the world. Even if someone was enough of a piece of shit to overlook the genocide your people are taking an active role in, they're not going to overlook the fact that you behave just like the Americans do, in terms of international meddling.
>>224989427My impression is that basically all of you approve of mass murder.
>>225005764it wasn't even directed at you you fucking retard. i was telling op to stop doing the whole "do you guys really hate us :(" routine because he already knows what the answer is going to be. i genuinely do not care about convincing you of anything
>>225005841are most irl israelis mentally ill low moral people like you are or is it just the ones that post on 4chan?
>>225005841Mind answering my question?
>>225005908>i genuinely do not care about convincing you of anything
>>225005930I'm not asking you to try convincing me
>>225005251I want Arabs to get the fuck out of my country, but I still think murdering them is wrong.
>>225005826literally this. Doesn't help that I've never seen one single israeli poster on 4chan acknowledge that any of what is happening right now is wrong
>>225005994It actually even goes hand in handThe more israel fucks shit up in the middle east and genocides them the more they are gonna flee and come to europe, being anti immigration and pro israel is the most laughable position
>>225006171anon there's a difference between actual real world policies and governmental/military actions vs individual moral beliefs
>>225005967you want israelis to "act like human beings" but nobody online actually wants the human version of this. october 7 happened. civilians were murdered, people were taken hostage, and some of it was filmed. then gaza got destroyed, civilians died in huge numbers and people lost their homes and families. both are real. neither cancels the other. israel isn't one opinion either. some still want two states, some think that died on october 7, some hate netanyahu but support the war, some hate both, some oppose settlements, some support them, and yeah, some people have gone completely off the deep end about palestinians. that's why i barely bother arguing about it anymore. mention october 7 and you're "using it as an excuse." acknowledge palestinian suffering and suddenly you're expected to accept every accusation against israel ever made too. disagree and you're evil. i can understand why palestinians hate israel after what they've lived through. apparently expecting anyone to understand why israelis might feel the same after what we've lived through is too much though
>>224989427Don't take it personally. I hate just about everyone and when I come into global power I will make Hitler,Stalin, Mao and Ghenkis Khan put together look like a fucking joke.
>>224995860full sappart saar
>>224989427You and your vassal state constantly make things worse for the rest of us.
>>225006400>apparently expecting anyone to understand why israelis might feel the same after what we've lived through is too much thoughMaybe because what you've been through doesn't come close to what Palestinians have been through.
The simple reality is that most people don't really care about discrimination and minorities of any kind will always suffer due to their structural weakness.Most people are close minded and prejudiced in one way or another and minorities are an easy target. Most people feign interest in morality by accusing others but it's extremely rare for people to actually question themselves. They don't actually care about being good people, they just want a socially acceptable justification for getting angry at someone else.It really applies to everything, not just this specific case of discrimination against Jews. If a person makes a statement against X group of people trying to justify it on something that certain members of X do, and you tell them that doesn't justify discrimination against all X, more often than not they will reply by essentializing X or finding some sort of cheap excuse, at which point there's no argument that this person isn't prejudiced and therefore nothing they've said can be taken seriously. Now if someone wants to discriminate against a certain group, to each their own, but cowardly hiding that bias and lying about it is itself immoral.If someone claims to speak from a moral position in good faith, then they must make a conscious effort to be as unbiased as possible. To such a person, if you told them that what they are saying is discriminatory, they wouldn't see it as a personal attack, but rather would take the criticism kindly and self-reflect to see if there's merit in it.Of course none of this applies in reality because most people haven't evolved one bit from ooga booga tribalistic cavemen.
>>224989427hate goymerica and goymerican postersi like israel tho
>>225006400I have absolutely zero prior knowledge about any of this because I don't give a shit but after some quick googling>october 7th: In total, at least 1,195 people were killed by the attacks>Gaza: As of September 2026, at least 73,400 people in Gaza had been killedYes both happened and both are real but come on. You really think neither cancels the other? I think killing 73,000 people is maybe a little excessive, personally
>>224989427I have a commensal relationship with you
>>225005994They only respond to power and they don't understand power in terms of wealth.
>>225006561Anything less than (actual) genocide is already forgiving for palis. How would you treat the samis if they kept suicide bombing for 80 years?
>>225006400Your secret services sponsored those pieces of shit at hamas for years and literally let oct 7 happened because they wanted this war, and even then it's not even fucking close to genocide you moron
>>224989427I like Israelis but not a fan of Israel.>>224989491I find Israelis posters on here fun, they can handle the banter.
>>225006752The Sami may constantly bitch and moan about imagined oppression, but they have never once in all of history taken up arms against us as we actually treat them decently.
Also retards ITT with no grasp of how international law works trying to talk about it is embarrassing.One day you wake up and realize just how utterly unserious the world is, when people get mad over shit they don't even understand. A child telling you why one dinosaur is cooler than another has the same intellectual depth as 90% of adults talking about their opinions on politics.
>>225006842Maybe you treat them decently because they didn't try to gang up on you with their neighbours over multiple wars
>>225006752protip; whitewashing genocide does not make you look good. go to /pol/ or something
>>225006886Argentina isn't white
>>225006950it's almost as if foreign invaders are disliked. who could possibly have guessed
>>225006886>ooh ooh ah ah >*scratching his head*>iik ook ook
>>225006950We didn't commit ethnic cleansing against them though.
>>225005994We should not have another holocaust but remigration is a big meme.
>>225006886wow anon you're so fucking smart holy shit
>>225006886This. the falklands are British, simple as.
>>225007068And palis are being genocided by... increasing 6x their population from the '50s to now
>>225004619you speak the truth
>>224989427on /v/ people say all the time jews ruined the gaming industry, but I don't know why
>>225007255Deporting an entire Palestinian village instead of murdering them is still ethnic cleansing.
>>225006400The crimes your country/government has committed are orders of magnitude larger than anything Hamas or the Palestinians at large have ever done, and real events outweigh any hypothetical "well they would kill us all if they could". Also, opposition to any of it within Israeli Jewish society seems vanishingly small, your actual military is still killing civilians on the daily in Gaza, your government is arming and funding terrorists in the West Bank. There is no equivalence, yet here you (or your peers) are rather talking about "retarded leftists" and imaginary Ahmeds on 4chan, while anyone with a basic moral compass sees that "never again" should mean "genocide is bad" while to large parts of Israeli society it seems to mean "it's ok if the Jews do it".
>>225007537wrong
>>225007569no you're wrong, I'm right
>>225007601if you are right then why are you so fat and ugly
>>225007412Why would anyone want to live close to bronze age savages in a murderous death cult?
>>225007629cause those things are unrelated
>>225007639>Why would anyone want to live close to Jews?Good question
>>225007660they are super related, much like your parents! lol!
>>225007678See you're simply antisemitic, you would do the same as the jews if you were in their shoes
>>224989427Israel is a pretty terrible failsafe you have to admit. The Brits failed at uniting the tribes of the middle east and all that was left of it was an aborted attempt at spreading a common religion. They didn't give up slavery or concubinage, they didn't give up their tribalism, and they were so disorganized that they couldn't even establish an aristocracy. So what's the response? Some Freemasons, ex-Nazis, and Soviets establish a settler colony to try and undo the mistake after Britain's attempt of inventing an Islamic aristocracy fell flat. In fact more Arabs hate Iran than you guys. I don't see why Israel wouldn't just back Iran, they're not going to modernize if they're tribal and at best you end up with South America because colonies are expensive and no one wants to manage them.
>>225007679but if my parents are related, why are you so gay?
>>225007750you aren't even denying the allegations!!!!
>>225007768hey man, love is love, I ain't judging my parents
>>225007710Why would I move to the Middle East if I didn't want to live among Arabs?
>>225007710The jews are on collision course to becoming South Africa. Israelis talk about Mizrahi like people in the US talk about niggers. They need the plug pulled on them for their own good they're not going to conquer Egypt and Turkey isn't threatened by them.
>>225007804>love is loveprove it and touch my penis
>>225007814But the jews were fine with UN's partition
>>225007944Not really, and even if they did it doesn't change the fact that they were foreign immigrants.
>>225007943*touches your penis*
>>225008037ur a man of ur word and ilu
>>225008054<3
>>225008022They accepted it, the Arabs didn't, chimped out, got btfo and then started crying genocide while repeating this exact process for 80 years multiple times
>>224993442my IDF gf was named emma, i stop2end
>>225008385The Jewish paramilitaries did absolutely nothing to suggest that they would respect the UN lines, on the contrary they repeatedly attacked Arab villages beyond them long before the full-scale war broke out.But again, how does this change the fact that they were foreign immigrants? If they didn't want to live among Arabs they should have stayed in Europe.
>>225008563Go back to your country
>>225008563If Arabs didn't want them they could've not sold them land
>>225007639>Why would anyone want to live close to bronze age savages in a murderous death cult?cool it with the antisemitism
>>225008563you're arguing with zionist evaligicans. better to ignore them. they're so far gone reason reason to them is like a brick wall. if someone defends mass murder call it a retard and don't waste your time. works for me
>>225008949I'm a non believer, I simply think about what I would do if I lived close to a subhuman murderous rape horde who's biggest aspiration is martyrdom while murdering and raping others and come to the conclusion that Israel's action are perfectly justified
>>225008696My ancestors lived here long before yours left Spain.>>225008699Whataboutism.>>225008949I know, but I have autism.
>>225008949Earlier this thread you were saying that the persecution and expulsions of Jews in Europe, predating zionism, should be blamed on them.If you had a moral principle against persecution and supremacism and no bias against Jews, you'd be showing empathy towards the historic treatment of Jews and defending them, completely independently of your opinion on the Israeli government.You are the retard hypocrite here, can't even follow what you are saying. Grow up and stop being an angry edgy child. Go back to your country btw.
