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>>224994814My ancestors owned these chariots
>>224994855Your ancestors scared the shit out of Yahweh
>>224994814I don't get it?
>>224994873There's a passage in the bible that says that god was with Israel but he couldn't defeat their enemies because they owned iron chariots
>>224994882>>224994814Didn't passage, and I heard this from people, that God ALLOWED his people to get BTFO'd by the chariots because they disobeyed him, o algo
>>224994967Not this time.>The LORD was with Judah… but they could not drive out the inhabitants of the plain, because they had chariots of iron.”
>>224994988Couldn't his angels or something help out...?
>>224994988God and angels are fae?!
>>224994814Kek this is canon
>god's chosen people>defeated by bicycleswhat did they mean by this
>>224995930they won in the end (briefly, before all foreign powers around them started paying attention)
>>224994967Why didn't he just harden their hearts and make them face the chariots?
>>224996758They didn't have hearts o algo.
>>224995930he hates walkable cities or however the video essay is read
>>224994988In the Old Testament YHWH does not seem like an omnipotent being on multiple occassions, and it's also clear other deities exist there and he competes against them. I don't get why Christianity clings to it at all, it's a wildly different concept of God.
>>224998025in Genesis when Eve eats the fruit it even says "we cannot let them become like ONE OF US" implying there's multiple gods
>>224994967No, but he did tell Moses to slaughter half of Istaelites after the whole golden calf situation so it really wouldn't be unusual behaviour.
>>224998047Christians cope by coming up with the "royal we", but again in Psalms 82:1 it says that Elohim presides over a council of gods.
>>224998025Ashur mogs yhwh
>>224998091personally I'm more of Ahura Mazda enjoyer, he's the OG
>>224998025>I don't get why Christianity clings to it at allIt's the whole foundation of belief for Christianity.
>>224998025It's because the first Christians were Old Testament believers who thought that it had prophesied Jesus (as a messiah/eschatological figure, not the physical embodiment of God himself).The New Testament doesn't really support the omnipotent, omnibenevolent conception of God either. All that shit was invented hundreds of years later by Christians who belonged to a different culture.
>>224998134Ashur has iron chariots while other gods have wooden, he's clearly superior
>>224998025Yep, that stood out to me when I read genesis and exodus, too. God is very clearly just the God of these specific people, while others have their own Gods, who are not even implied to be less real - they're just foreign.
>>224999282Because back then every city had it's own god and it was customary to pay tribute to the city's god when visiting. Jews being jews got stingy about that and made rules that forbid all other gods worship
>>224998025Because christianity only makes sense in the context of a apocalyptic judaism.Modern jews also see their god as omnipotent. Plato also saw the gods as wildly different from the gods of Homer.It's just how religions evolve
The history of jews is hilarious.This man is the reason why some jews pass as white.He decided to conquer Khazaria and killed every male with a mutilated genital he ever encountered. He literally set up penis inspection points in every town and village and put down Jews by the thousands.Nowadays the absolute majority of Ashkenazi are R1a, and they come up with the most retarded code mechanism to explain it.And if you think this is fucked up, you should learn about Ethiopians Jews real origins, dating back to 525, during the Ethiopian invasion of what is now Yemen that ended with all Jewish males slaughtered and the females taken into captivity and sold as sexual slaves around the horn of Africa.Ironically, the closest thing (genetically speaking) to a pure Jew is a modern Palestinian.
>>224998453It was Always a Hermetic idea, it's why Muslims think Abraham was a Sabian
>>225002891>Nowadays the absolute majority of Ashkenazi are R1aI think that's only the levites, ashkenazim are usually j1 e j2.>Ironically, the closest thing (genetically speaking) to a pure Jew is a modern Palestinian.This is true.
>>225003033>ashkenazim are usually j1 e j2.I have seen the research paper you are referring to. But the authors had decided to exclude all R1a (without mentioning how many sample sizes were removed) because they themselves acknowledged that they were "contaminated."You can look at 10 different studies, and 10 will have drastically different results due to cherry-picking, even using the same dataset.Imagine the memes were Turks discovering they were 90% Armenian. This is pretty much what happens, but at a academical level.
>>225003219Very well. I never read into itI'll look further into it
>>224994855Your ancestors owned copious amounts of bananas.
>>224998047So, saints and virgins??
>>225003453Considering the origins of your faith, you probably are tho
>>225003475you know that modern banana comes from China, right?Until the Panama plague laid waste to the Gros Michel, it was THE EXACTLY SAME PLANT that was once yoinked from a Chinese farm by a French dude.It was not even related, because, as you might have realized, bananas don't produce real seeds; it was the exact same plant being propagated by ryzomes.
>Monotheistic religion has text about their god losing to another god in battleDoes anyone proofread this shit?
>>225003593>it was the exact same plant being propagated by ryzomes.That banana plant genotype is probably the most widely propagated genotype on Earth
>>224998047Actually it's about the trinity so it's prophetic chud
>>224999282It was the Hannunaki war of the diadochis, they were space people seeding Earth with life and then they argued and started warring using people they ruled over as cannon fodder
>>224998025Yahweh was a storm and war god who was given obsequious praise as an all-powerful being like how subjects worship a king. Then that entity took on influence from Zoroastrianism and Platonic philosophy to become an omni- being.
Kind of interesting that early Judaism started out as monolatry and eventually evolved into monotheism, however the evidence of monolatry being the root is very evident.
>>224998025>I don't get why Christianity clings to it at all,Cause the NT strongly relies on the OT for continuity. Even many (non-jewish) early Christian converts clearly struggled reading OT texts to the point where some Early Christian writers said they had to be different deities or resorted to allegorical interpretations. Many clearly would have done without the OT, and as a religion, Christianity as we know it was strongly influenced by Platonism, but the NT's reliance on the OT for many of its themes became one giant elephant in the room that most of the adherents and Church Leaders weren't able to ignore.
>>224998025Christianity existed a few hundred years before the "New Testament" was made
>>225004668Monotheism came from Shuaib/JethroMoses pretty much is the reason why Caanites abandoned El for Yahweh
In earlier versions of the Exodus, it was the “gods of Egypt” that “hardened the pharaoh’s heart” to not let the jews leave. In latter versions, due to “only yaweh exists” rule, it was God that did that, while also punishing the egyptians with the plagues for not letting the jews leave. This made him a dick for no reason.This is a pattern in the Old Testament. Whenever God is being evil or petty, it was probably a pagan god doing that shit, but had to be changed because other gods cannot exist.
>>225004668>however the evidence of monolatry being the root is very evidentFrom what I've read, the change happened during and after the Babylonian Exile.
>>224998075Muslims just crash out and call you 30 kinds of slurs before blowing themselves up/shanking you if you ask who the "we" in the Quran is too kek
>>225003475Bodied that chimp
>>225005135Interesting speculation, but do we have any source to this?>Whenever God is being evil or petty, it was probably a pagan god doing that shitWhat about the ones when Israelites are being commanded to do something? I guess there is plausible ground for this, cause the census carried out by King David is attributed to God in one book (2 Samuel 24:1) and then to Satan in another one (1 Chronicles 21:1), though Satan is understood to be a heavenly prosecutor in Jewish interpretation rather than a opposing malevolent force.
>>225005135The interaction between him and them is pretty symbolic when you realise that Yahweh is literally Set from the point of view of Egyptians But Jews were never in Egypt in the first place, that's a myth that Judaism included later on, The Entire story was taken from a Hermetic story from Greece
>>225002651>Modern jews also see their god as omnipotentThye clearly don't giventhey have dedicated holidays based on tricking him. Both the jew chicken shit and muslim Ramadan night eating means they believe mortals can beat their god
>>225003832not after the 50's.Just in Brazil, we have a new "improved" banana plant every couple of years (lower trees, thicker "trunks," more bananas per plant, better tolerance to drought, better tolerance to wetlands, varieties rich in fiber, varieties that last longer on shelf, etc).But yeah, it is still insane how much of the exact same plant we grow. One plague, and the whole world stops eating bananas for a couple of years.
>>225005633In one jewish legend, he is outright outwitted and ends up taking it in good stride. It's kinda endearing.
>>225003475>>225005353I'm lebanese
>>225003806It was a metaphor o algo asiJust like everything our modern mind would consider too retarded to be literal
>>225006074You will never be Nassim Taleb or Said Aql
>>224998187*Modern* Christianity, there were many of forms Christianity took the first couple of centuries before the few big churches rose to power and stomped out the rest into oblivion. And even then the whole insanity that is Trinity sure muddles up the message about "one God".
>>225005317Is Allah also used in the plural in the Qur'an?This weird because it's a new book
>>225005633Ramadan night eating is intentional tho
>>225005824Jacob also wrestles and beat him
>>225004840https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MarcionismMarcionism was pretty based, it was an early heresy that had its own canon and viewed the God of the Old Testament as malevolent.I went through a period years ago where I wanted to convert as my friends had converted, but the OT God was just one of the things I couldn't accept, he comes across as incompetent and bizarre.
Post things that are considered Canon in Christianity but actually aren't in the bible>The evil being the ruler of hell>Hell being eternal punishment
had a discussion the other day with a very christian woman about god forgiving anyone despite any sins he has commitedjust dont get it
>>224998047I think the more interesting part about this is that people have the potential to become like god by eating the fruit of knowledge (which we already did) + eating the fruit of life. and god is afraid of it
>>225006926>god forgiving anyone despite any sins he has commitedInsulting Yahweh's Holy pigeon is unforgiveable apparently.
>>225005547Ok I'll bite, let's run with the Egyptian motiff. Yeah ok they got monotheism, Iah, Asherah, etc all from them. Where did Jews get the nehushtan from? There's nothing like it in Greek/Egyptian/Phoenician mythos it seems more like an Orphic motif.
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>>225005824why can't the religion stories follow these tones? It's always worship me or I kill you blah blah blah useless blabber.
>>225006304They're supposed to fast for a whome month (which is impossible and you'd starv), so they cheat by going "Allah can't see in the dark" and eating when their god "isn't looking"
>>225011551>Allah can't see in the darkThis opens up far more possibilities than just cheating Ramadan.
>>225011551Oh, may i see the source?>>225006266Yeah, it's the plural of majesty
>>225011551It's not really cheating because night eating is the whole point.Muslim fasting isn't like those hindu fastings where people expect mystical powers to appear
>>225006431A lot of the first gentile christians also saw the OT god as bizarre
>>225006701Mary's perpetual virginity.This actually deserves it's own thread desu
>>225007015If my man Adam was faster we would all be gods living idyllic lives
>>225007464Pretty sure Asherat was from canaan
>>225011551you are an idiot, there is no "tricking" Allah in Islam, that literally how he told us to fast
>>225006265Orthodox Christianity was already the predominant view though, and it wasn't necessarily enforced by the Council of Nicea (which failed to even contain Arianism, which was the actual main dispute of that council) as commonly believed.
>>225015404My nigga Constantine cheating God
>>225015404You're referring to events happening in 4th century, there were who know how many burgeoning forms of Christianity before that, most of which left few if any marks to History. The first "Bible" we know of comes from middle second century and that contained no Old Testament and was from from "herectical" Marcion of Sinope. That's a hundred years of at best loose collection of scriptures.
>>224998025old testament is kike schizo fairytales only americans and their doomsday cults take it seriously otherwise there would be no reason to bow to their jewish masters
>>225016935Yeah but they didn't necessarily have the power to stamp out other branches of Christianity before the mass conversion to Christianity, so while there were indeed multiple branches, the other sects just failed because they were less popular and/or were already deemed as 'incorrect' even then. It probably wasn't because the proto-orthodoxs carried some massive persecution (though there probably were some fights here and there).
>>225018021Sure, but the history is written by the winners. Those sects that didn't make it? Heretics, all of them.
>>225016974It’s embarrassing that anyone talks anything from the bible seriously. Yahweh was obviously some unhinged storm god that the Israelites adopted
>>225018076You can take it as mythology, some of which has possible historical roots, but that someone takes anything from the books as literal fact is outright laughable.
>>225018021>>225016935Paul unironically started his own sect at the expense of the real apostles
>>225018198>Canonise a gamer because someone said he got cured after praying to him
>>225018393I unironically saw his portrait at a church the other day.
>>225018393Christian sainthood is interesting. It seems to me that it's just a way that the Church found to control what could've evolved to become a dangerous enemy cult.Many societies end up turning important people into actual gods
>>225018414Imagine if you once insulted Carlo Acutis by mistake in a online game.He'll tell god to send you to hell
>>225018393Imagine worshipping a zoomer lol
>>225018444kek
>>225018444Should have asked god to make him better at the game if people are insulting him.
>>225018646Technically he's a bit older. Died in 2006
>>225018941He's a spiritual zoomer with that haircut
remember its mostly indians behind those anti-theist/abrahamic posting including hadith and godjakand ofc mods allow those thread from those "protected users"
>>225019655me posting Jewish pheontypes post got me banned for "culture disrespect"
>>225019655meds
>>225005633>>225006304>>225011551>tricking G-dOh brother, you have no idea
>>224994814Why is Yahweh so weak?
>>225021070Even if you were Kyriakos Grizzly you couldn't stop an iron chariot. God couldn't be much stronger than him since he's pretty much the strongest man who ever lived and we're all made in god's image.
>>224995848clearly you haven't been on the business end of an iron chariot
>>225020186>that last sentence fucking lmao
Bronze age warfare really was who had the most chariots at the end of the day.
>>225022303Stereotypes? Confirmed.
>>225005633>>225006304>>225011551>>225020186>Lying to God>Blaspheming against God by thinking He's not all-powerful and wont figure it outIt's literally the same shit that led Adam&Eve to be kicked out of Paradise and they still do it, proudly even
>>225022994I wonder why they have shitload of religious laws and regulations if they basically have the same number of tricks to avoid and counter them. At the end of the day, those laws just end being useless.But now, I am starting to get why jews have been good lawyers since forever. Lawyers basically operate in the same way.
>>225002891>Ironically, the closest thing (genetically speaking) to a pure Jew is a modern Palestinian.
>>225019655sneed
it's faith and faith alone
>>225019655wtf i love indians now
why didnt they just use iron chariots to stop the flood? were they stupid?
>>225023090Its fascinating, its like a cultural institutional training, embedded deeply in their identity. Like ytpipo take their kids to the beach to learn how to swim while jewish pipo teach their kids how to trick god. And how could gentiles be a challenge after tricking god?
>>225019655why would god create indians to make defamatory posts about him?
>>225006926Religious women tend to be very slutty.
>>225019655I don't think soGodjacks are the only funny thing now
>>225020186Jews are such weird creatures
>>225022994They treat the four letter as some sort of earthly judge that can be "tricked" by a technicality
>>224994814>You’re right to flag it. Judges 1:19 really does say that Judah “could not drive out” the inhabitants of the plain because they had iron chariots; that is not a mistranslation in the NRSV-CE. >But it does not say that God was incapable of helping them. It reports that Judah failed to drive them out, while the same verse says the Lord was with Judah in taking the hill country. Later, in Judges 4, God does deliver Israel from Sisera’s army of iron chariots.>So there is a real contrast in the narrative: Judah’s campaign falls short, whereas in Deborah’s story God gives Israel victory over a chariot-equipped enemy. The text doesn’t spell out why Judah failed; reading it as “God could not overcome iron chariots” goes beyond what it says.https://www.magisterium.com/>Get accurate answers.>Find inspiration.>Magisterium AI is the world's leading Catholic AI. It is free and easy to use, offering instant, reliable answers rooted in Catholic tradition. Designed for both believers and seekers, it is your companion for exploring the faith with clarity and depthhere, a LLM for you to have some of your minor jewish/islamist/atheist questions answered ; should always ask an actual priest, though
>>225030671>reading it as “God could not overcome iron chariots” goes beyond what it says.Christcuck cope>should always ask an actual priest, thoughPriests are the worst people to interpret the bible
