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>The suffering visited on Europe by the War of the Spanish Succession was compounded by an unusual weather event. A record cold wave settled over the continent the evening of January 5, 1709 and did not let up until early March. It was the coldest winter Europe had known since the Middle Ages. Wine in cellars froze, trees split open from their sap freezing, and birds died of the cold and fell out of the sky. France experienced almost half a million deaths. In London, William Derham recorded a temperature reading of -12C on January 5, the coldest he'd ever seen. Some areas experienced temperatures down to -8C with -5C being the average low. The exact cause of this extreme cold wave is unclear and it does not fit with documented weather patterns that year.

Really, Yurop? -5C lows are just average Minnesota winter weather, big deal.
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>>225034074
>WAOW! we can survive MINNESOTA winters *easily as fuck* with modern heating technology here in 'MURICA!!!
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>>225034225
not OP but Russia always had winters like that and Quebec was already settled by the French for almost 100 years by then
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>>225034074
>-6-8 anomaly
Nigga, we have +20 anomalies this year and people are concerned about some -6-8 anomalies.
>trees split open from their sap freezing
It's quite cool when they explode or just crackle loudly in winters btw.
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>>225034074
>5C lows are just average Minnesota winter weather, big deal.
France and UK are very warm places.
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>>225034074
>The exact cause of this extreme cold wave is unclear and

Freezing spells in Europe are usually always caused by a high pressure system over the center of the continent that draws Siberian air west.
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>-5C lows are just average Minnesota winter weather, big deal.

That's not -5°C measured but 5 degrees lower than the average between 1971-2000 during winter.
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>>225034074
as a black man this is too cold for me
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>>225034714
>Siberian air west.
lol
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>>225034714
yes what happens is the winds on the south side of the high are blowing west so they draw Siberian air into Europe
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>>225034887
Do you know where Siberia even is? Or where Russia starts it is Siberia to you?
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>>225034074
They don't have much insulation or even indoor heating in Western Europe.
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>>225034074
we had a cold wave in the Northeast last winter. it lasted three weeks and got at least that cold.
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>>225034551
It's fine if you're used to it and prepared for it but can really fuck you over if you aren't. Remember a few years ago when Texas turned skibidi after 1 inch of snowfall because the drivers weren't used to icy roads?
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>>225034074
>>225035401
there's an important distinction which is that Europe is generally at a higher latitude than the US so the real feel of a cold wave like this is probably worse due to the lower sun and shorter days in mid-winter
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>>225034569
Can't say I ever recall a tree splitting open from the cold. However most vegetation native to Western Europe and its usually mild winter weather probably can't tolerate Canada-tier winters.
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i swear this is why the real poland collapsed
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>>225035653
It can happen even to coniferous.
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>>225034074
The cold wave contributed to the eventual Swedish defeat at Poltava as the Swedes lost many men through exposure while the Russian army had better winter clothing and stayed in their camps and avoided maneuvering until the weather moderated.
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>>225034074
>-12C on January 5, the coldest he'd ever seen. Some areas experienced temperatures down to -8C with -5C being the average low.
That's normal? And I live in Northern Italy not even northern France
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>>225035653
Dude most of our territory is mountains and hills where it gets cold as fuck in winter. Granted it's no an average of -50 but it can easily reach -30 or -20.
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>>225034074
>William Derham recorded a temperature reading of -12C
>cold wave in 1709
>Ceslius scale was invented in 1742
Incredible bulshittery.
Also -12 is even still completly normal here in january despite global warming.
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>>225035850
>The normal freezing point of Norway Spruce sap is -3C. The needles and buds of mature trees can tolerate temperatures of -25C or more.[3\
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>>225036592
Nigga, if you been to forest at winter when it gets cold you should have heard a crackle at least once.
And they usually crack when the temperature drops quickly.
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>>225034931
the Urals mark the boundary
west: Muscovy
east: Sibir Khanate
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>>225036679
>And they usually crack when the temperature drops quickly

this is because a rapid temperature drop causes the sap to freeze as the tree doesn't have time to adjust properly and harden itself
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>>225036717
These growing zone maps are an asspull as they only tell you average winter temperatures, not summer temperatures. England and Alabama are in the same USDA zone but otherwise have completely different climates.
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>>225037625
Also the Deep South never stays cold very long and 70F temps return after a few days. England will be basically 40F and rainy all winter. The difference in latitude matters a lot.
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i hear most bongs have no home heating system because it's uncommon to actually get below freezing there
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>>225034074
Like every other europoor "le winter apocalypse" it was very likely the result of some supervolcano suddenly erupting around Indonesia or Malaysia.
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An eruption of an East African volcano in October 1861 produced a chain of weather events that may have affected the course of the Civil War.
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>>225038402
nigger karma
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>>225038402
Basically it caused a very strong jet stream over the southern tier of the US. California was completely inundated by heavy rains and flooding all winter in what has been called a once in a thousand year event. The rains affected the outcome of several ACW campaigns in the winter and spring.
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>>225038217
Some believe it was due to a temporary decrease in solar output.
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>>225038532
The war years otoh had a near-complete absence of Atlantic hurricanes.
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>>225034225
Is OP unaware of how many early colonies failed because of the harsh winters?
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>>225034074
it’s a big deal if you are growing the wrong crops, living in the wrong houses, and wearing the wrong clothes for it
>>225035653
it happens a lot here but it is also extremely cold in my area
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>>225039153
The early settlers assumed that the Northeastern US being at the latitude of the Mediterranean would have similar mild winters. Similarly, when Quebec was initially settled the French assumed it was directly across the pond from them and at the same latitude and thus have the same approximate climate, only to be quickly disabused of that notion.
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>>225034074
God weeped the fall of the Spanish Empire.
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>>225039248
latitude mostly governs summer rather than winter temperatures. it will get pretty much linearly hotter or cooler the further north or south you go, but winters have more to do with continentality versus oceanic climate
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>>225039415
>latitude mostly governs summer rather than winter temperatures. it will get pretty much linearly hotter or cooler the further north or south you go, but winters have more to do with continentality versus oceanic climate

generally true but also at lower latitudes cold spells are shorter-lived. the South can sometimes get pretty cold in winter but never for very long and it will soon be 70F again.
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>>225039248
supposedly some of the English settlers thought it was too far south and unsuitable for Englishmen, and that they'd get boiled alive in summertime
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in Miami there's only summer and slightly less summer
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>>225034074
and somehow Iceland was warmer than normal



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