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>Nguyễn (chữ Hán: 阮; sometimes abbreviated as Ng̃) is the most common surname among Vietnamese people. Outside of Vietnam, the surname is commonly rendered without diacritics as Nguyen.[a][b] By some estimates 39 percent of Vietnamese people bear this surname.[1][2][3]
>Nguyễn is the transcription of the Sino-Vietnamese pronunciation of the character 阮, which originally was used to write a name of a state in Gansu or ruan, an ancient Chinese instrument.[4][5]

Most common surname in Vietnam is a Mandarin loan word
Should just be a part of Zhongguo at this point
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>>225037982
Vietnamese commoners had no surnames until the 20th century, only the nobility. Anyone named Nguyen is of peasant ancestry. This is also true of Korea; Kims, Parks, and Lees are all descended from peasants.
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>>225038117
Why didn't they just choose patronymics like normal people
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>>225038135
idk. I know Germans began using surnames in the 15th century and most named themselves after an occupation or sometimes their appearance. Nobility had a "von" prefix.
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>>225038198
Surnames became a thing here in the 1920s, before that everyone had patronyms that would change every generation
Then they passed a law and all the patronyms got fixed in place
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>>225038198
Martin Luther's father was a coal miner and IIRC "Luther" had something to do with mining or digging.
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>>225038198
thats in most places, england and france did it earlier (14th century), other places centuries later, austria around 16th, russia 17th etc. In large parts thanks to "Tametsi" at the Council of Trent and similar work by Orthodox bishops that wrote down peasants names to make paperwork more uniform for marriages and such, in the 20th century that work went over to the state and with the modernization of japan etc they also adopted western style surnaming

>>225038576
not at all, luther is a combination of the old words "liut" (persons/people) and "heri" (army)
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>>225038721
Liut Befreiung Heri der China
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>>225038783
kek, but not quite, liut became "Leute", not the people "Volk"
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>>225038885
So was probably about someone's appearance; perhaps they had pale skin.



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