what does /int/ know about the Franco-Prussian War?
The napoleon 3 the kike and kike enabler lost
Read Kissinger's "Diplomacy." He goes down the list of horrible diplomatic decisions Napoleon III made leading up to the conflict.
>>225181739Despite all your bs wrote by your quidam no name, Napoleon III was an excellent leader, one of the best of the entire French history starting with Clovis.
>>225181513Bismarck ragebaited the Frenchies so hard and then von Moltke sen. encircled the entire french army at Metz bcz he was a train autist
>>225181739basically, Bismark b8-ed him into declaring war and he took the b8
>>225181739Napoleon III made France catch up to Great Britain in terms of industrialisation & colonialism. He was a benevolent dictator though, not a gifted military tactician like his forefather, and that's important in regard to this disaster. He was also sickly and didn't have French as his first language. Should not have chimped out and provoked Prussia, should have done another ten years in power building us up instead.
The Prussians got stupidly lucky and barely won the war. This was somehow forgotten in 1914 and Germany got cocky and didn't consider how close it had been the last time.
>>225181841>& colonialismAnd how did that work out for you in the long term?
>>225181841>didn't have French as his first languagepathetic
>>225181699>napoleon 3 the kikehe actually improving france and have a great run ultil this war thoughever
>>225181513France got baited into a war they would lose, the Germans humiliated France with their knowledge of industrial warfare, the Germans united under Prussia, and the French held on to a massive grudge. Its legacy is part of the reason why WWI started, and hence WWII.
>>225181841>He was also sickly and didn't have French as his first language>didn't have French as his first languageWhich parallel world do you come from ? In your world France owns USA ?
>>225181790What about Philip Augustus doe?
still, N3 was the guy who built Paris into the City of Lights instead of the crime-filled collection of slums it had always been before
>>225181872Very good actually
>>225181886He said bs, he was a true Parisian with French parents
>>225181513Alsace was majority german so why did the french seethe so much aboit losing it
>>225181870their logistics were perilously thin being stretched over 200 miles of enemy territory with active guerrillas. for that reason the German army in both world wars was absolutely merciless on partisans. if you tried to sabotage their supply convoys you were just lined up in front of a wall and shot.
>>225181894On some thngs he did and we kept his ideas after him, on some others.... What was the point of that war in Mexico?
>>225181935Very good king, one of the best in European medieval history actually.
>>225181976>>225181926>All members of the House of Bonaparte were forced into exile after the defeat of Napoleon at the Battle of Waterloo and the Bourbon Restoration of monarchy in France. Hortense and Louis Napoleon moved from Aix-les-Bains to Bern to Baden-Baden, and finally to a lakeside house at Arenenberg in the Swiss canton of Thurgau. He received some of his education in Germany at the gymnasium school at Augsburg, Bavaria. As a result, for the rest of his life, his French had a slight but noticeable German accent.
>>225182029Nappy thought he could take advantage of the US distraction with the Civil War to play around in Mexico, but the war ended and they were told to fuck off.
>>225181513The French should be far more brutal. Pruskies should die in torture chambers with maximum pain settings on, 100% of them.
>>225182006>>225181870The Prussian Dreyse needle gun had wreaked havoc against the Danes and Austrians and their muzzle-loader muskets, but the French had the breechloading Chassepot.
>>225182122nobody will ever be this butthurt about Pollacks, and do you know why?
>>225182205The Bavarians also had muzzleloaders but they put up a very good fight in the war of 66. I think it was rather a question of tactics, not only equipment
>>225181870They captured Napoleon III at Sedan and caused Paris to collapse into revolution. That was a huge stroke of luck right there.
>>225181513>aislop mapunalive
>>225181513Damn look at those pocket pussies
war used to be so kino...
>>225181870The French army was scattered around the country in regiments to prevent them from couping the government so it took time to gather all of them together and assemble them into brigades and divisions.
>>225181513Based Prussia
>>225182205the French army had muzzle-loading Minie rifles up to 1865. after seeing the results of the Second Schleswig War they hastily replaced them with breechloaders
>>225181841>Napoleon III didn't have French as his first languagejust because he had an accent doesnt mean his first language wasnt french
>>225182205wasn't it also because they had better artillery?
>>225182001>Alsace was majority german so why did the french seethe so much aboit losing itIt had iron and coal mines. That was the big reason the Germans wanted it.
>>225181513kwab: the war
>>225181513isnt that the italian fascist symbol or something in the french emblem?
>>225182001It was basically the first time in history they were completely and utterly cockslapped into submission with nothing to show for it, the territory itself was secondary but it became a symbol of that defeat. Every other major war up to that point they either won, got a draw, or at least had some impressive victories before ultimately losing
>>225182922it was the second time Paris had been occupied by an enemy army in a little more than 50 years; prior to that the last time that happened was in the Hundred Years War
>>225182585These were used by the French, British, and US armies but the German states didn't use them. A very horrible ammunition type in terms of what it did you do--we had ample experience with that one.
afaik the F-P War was the last major conflict where they used paper cartridges
>>225181513Let me think. >France got tricked into war and it was made look like they're agressive oppressors, which lead the German kingdoms in the south to unite with Prussia>One of the first wars including trains for logistics and somewhat modern tactics>German unification almost failed unit one of the kings yelled "Long live the Kaiser in Germany" or something like that. >Napoleon III had prostate cancer which was apperantly so painful, that he ran infront of the lines with his horse in hope to be deadly wounded. Of course destiny wasn't willing giving that to the poor bastard>Bismark didn't want to take Elsas Lorraine at first, but the southern German states wanted a bufferstate>Bismark wanted to cripple France with debt, but it failed
>>225183357>Bismark didn't want to take Elsas Lorraine at first, but the southern German states wanted a bufferstatealso all those delicious coal and iron mines
>>225182205The German army immediately retired the Dreyse when the war ended and replaced it with a copypaste clone of the Chassepot.
>>225183357>One of the first wars including trains for logistics and somewhat modern tacticsidk aside from breech-loading rifles it was still very similar to Civil War combat, although with a lot more cavalry since European armies traditionally used that as a main combat arm instead of a scouting arm
>>225182006The French leadership agreed to a hasty peace settlement in exchange for Prussian help in suppressing the Paris commune.
>>225181513Napoleon III was the last head of state in history to personally command an army in battle.
>>225181870most English language sources about the F-P War don't really cover how much of a near-run it actually was for Berlin
>>225183914One thing is they were real lucky Austria didn't try and avenge the Seven Weeks War because almost the entire German army was in France. Germany itself was basically empty of troops and there was nothing to stop them from just walking right in there.
>>225183502The Prussian cavalry got plastered when they tried doing saber charges against Chassepot-toting French infantry. It was chiefly the Krupp artillery that carried the day.
>>225181513France got wrecked
>>225184210Paris almost starved during the siege of the city and they took to eating dogs, rats, even the animals in the Paris zoo.
>>225184190the Civil War should have taught them that much but the European armies didn't bother studying it because "lol what do stupid Americans know about war anyway?"
two ancestors of mine that were conscripted in the reserve were captured in that war
>>225184275Phil Sheridan witnessed the F-P War as an official foreign military observer with the Prussian army but was unimpressed with what he saw and thought it had no useful lessons for the US Army.
>>225181513Another proof of France's evilness
After the Franco-Prussian war, all standing French armies were crushed and Paris was about to fall. The entire country was about to fall to German troops. Germany had France at its balls and the only mistake consisted in not going completely nuts with peace conditions. Annexing Alsace-Lorraine was right. The real mistake was not to go much further. Annex all of Lorraine, depriving France of its industrial heartland and geographic shield against German invasion and award French Flanders to Belgium, depriving France of Dunkirk, a harbour where British troops could quickly disembark, return Basque and Catalan land to Spain and give Savoy back to Italy to deprive the French of defensive positions in the Pyrenean and alpine mountain passes, make Brittanny independent under a German prince and send a shitton of military support to engage the French in a two front war in the future, separate Burgundy from France as German client state, or heck, even annex it. And of course, force them to abandon their entire colonial empire or even annex it yourself. They shouldn't have given a shit however Britain or Russia would react, this was a French war of aggression and no parliament could popularize the decision to punish the victorious defender.
Germany was dealt a wild card and did not play it. This left France with the ability to successfully seek revenge against Germany and condemned German foreign policy to isolate itself in its bid to defy France. Remember how the French tried to cope about not colonizing Egypt in 1840 by we-wuzzing the Rhineland and calling for its annexation? Their inferiority complex knows no bounds. One cannot stop or satisfy the French just by refusing to extend their humiliation for once. It was inevitable that France would become Germany's enemy or be forced to become a junior partner. >b-but uk, russia and maybe austria would go like: damn prussia getting to strong lets intervene. boom germany now is being blockaded and invaded from 2 sides whilst it's entire army is in france. germany sends its army back to defend it's lands and then uk goes and lands because there is no way prussia could've defended both. Russia was still backwards in 1871. The Crimean War was 15 years ago and the abolition of serfdom just 10 years ago. Russia did not have the railway and industry of 1914, so it could only bring far less troops of far worse quality with far less artillery far slower. Austria hated France because Emepror Franz Joseph did. Britain was the only concern. We are talking about the British Army before the Boer Wars. It could never match the Prussians. Germany managed both during WWI and WWII to defend its coasts, of course Prussia could too. It could partially delegate the defence of France to its allies who were without coastlines (Bavaria, Baden, Württemberg) and defend its homeland itself. Remember, this is 1871. The attacker couldn't advance faster than a railway line, all of which could be blown up by the Prussians. The battles would be entirely on their terms.
The British could not blockade Prussia, neither politically, as it did not commit any hostile act, nor practically, as Prussia could always resort to importing food through Switzerland and Italy (the latter was a neutral ally during this war, unlike during both world wars, where it was either an enemy or a combatant ally). As said, Germany was dealt a wild card.
I read about Bismarck recently and learned that he was actually more of a genius diplomat and politician, less a warmongering general like he's commonly portrayed. He personally didn't want to take Alsace-Lorraine and let any bad blood stew while he was busy trying to form the German state.
>>225181513I know a bunch of french died in the swiss alps cause they got cutoff.
>>225187168>>225187143>>225187180IDK what ChatGPT wrote this but there was no risk of Russian or British intervention in the war. Russia was on friendly terms with Berlin then and the British didn't care about them either and rather thought France the bigger menace to their interests. Further, antiwar sentiment in Britain was strong for a generation after the Crimean War and there was absolutely no desire to get involved in any wars on the continent.
>>225181513Why do they always invade through Belgium?
>>225181790>starting with Clovis.*Hugo Capet
>>225187376they didn't go through Belgium in this war though
>>225183357>Bismark didn't want to take Elsas Lorraine at first, but the southern German states wanted a bufferstateWhy the fuck is Bismarck so retarded. It was already pretty retarded that we did not take back Elsass after the coalition war.
>>225187311Britain only started to view Germany as a rival/menace after Wilhelm II became emperor and started talking about challenging their naval supremacy. Prior to that time they had no conflicting interests.
>>225187143>Germany had France at its balls and the only mistake consisted in not going completely nuts with peace conditions.We already made the same mistake in 1815. We got in 1945 what we should have done to the French. This is karma in action. Raping and killing French women for the revolution would have been the right thing to do. But the nobles had lost their valour.
>>225187439He was busy trying to work on German unification which was a protracted process. In the midst of that he realized he was surrounded by 4 major power enemies that could at any point coalition him. So while he fended them off individually he tried to do so in a very surgical and low key manner so as to not inspire a larger coalition war while Germany was still a fledgling state.He was actually a very shrewd guy and why Germany didn't get Polan'd early on in the process. He predicted that Wilhelm II would ruin everything.
basically what happened was Bismarck proposed to put a Hohenzollern prince on the Spanish throne, causing Napoleon III to freak out at the possibility of being surrounded on all sides by unfriendly neighbors and declare war
>>225187483Right, see >>225187515Bismarck successfully built the reputation of Germany as a benevolent new power. The spoiled child of his friend and king was the one who wanted to make a name for himself through warfare. Bismarck could see this was a fool's errand as they were surrounded by enemies and at risk of being partitioned.
>>225187515Wilhelm II did not ruin anything. If America did not begin its project of taking over Europe, and sacrificed the Lusitania for that pursuit, Britain would have capitulated because the submarine warfare was a success. The global powers we were surrounded by turned out to not be a problem. Russia was already subdued and France and Britain were on the brink of collapse. The only issue we had was America.
>>225187416For historians 481 is the birth of France and 481 is Clovis
>>225187574That is a terrible read on history, we were hardly even the decisive factor in WW1 much less the sole reason
>>225187311Of all the major powers:>Britain>has friendly relations with the German states, nobody wants another war on the continent after the Crimean conflict, and France was their ancient enemy>Russia>friendly relations with Prussia and both have a common interest in suppressing Polish nationalism>Austria>still smarting from the Seven Weeks War and had no desire to go to war again - further, France was also a traditional foe/rival of Vienna
>>225187634There were two factors that caused Germany's defeat in WW1:America's aggressionThe treason of socialists
>>225187436Britain was treaty-bound to defend Belgium which was why the French and Prussians avoided entering its territory.
>>225187783Wilhelm's lack of ability to diplomatically handle America's position as it had friendly relations with both Britain and France, that should have been a part of the risk analysis. Bismarck would have seen that and avoided doing anything to antagonize it.
>>225187783>reciting 90 year old Nazi propaganda>2026ISHYGDDT
>>225187860Damn these Nazi people you are talking about must have been onto somethingAlmost as if they actually experienced the history of Germany or something
>>225187661Russia also disliked and distrusted France going back to the French Revolution and more recently the Crimean War.
>>225187860p. sure they lost because the Central Powers were simply grossly out-matched in the amount of manpower and resources available to them
>>225187836This is nonsensical reasoningAmerica supplying Britain with munition is already an act of war. We had the right to shoot down the Lusitania. America was the aggressor in this scenario.But I already know that you will rationalise it, because the intellect can justify all the nonsense that there is.
>>225182922although the war lasted six months, it was essentially over with N3's capture at Sedan and the outcome a foregone conclusion
>>225187944>We had the right to shoot down the Lusitania. >America was the aggressor in this scenario.Nigga WHAT?
>>225187944Who are you to say that we can't trade weapons with a trade partner? You fucked around and found out, TWICE. LMAOOOOOOTruly you are a part of the Wilhelmian School on cuckery and strategic retardation
>>225187661Austria only intended to enter the war if the French managed to successfully invade southern Germany. Italy also refused to do anything so long as the French occupied Rome. Russia did not like France as the hotbed of revolutionary sentiment. As for Britain, Bismarck cleverly arranged for the London Times to print the text of a French proposed Franco-Prussian partition of Belgium.
>>225188023If you are supplying the enemy, you are the enemy.America already made its intention of aggression clear the moment they filled the Lusitania with ammunition.It thus became a legitimate target of German submarine warfare, for the same reason you will see neocons defending Israel striking at Hamas bases despite the fact that a children's hospital is sitting in it. (Just to emphasise the hypocrisy of entente-apologists)
>>225188059>You fucked around and found outThe only thing fucking around and finding out here is american women with niggers.>Truly you are a part of the Wilhelmian School on cuckery and strategic retardationBecause we called the bluff and did the right thing according to every legitimate metric of diplomacy?
>>225188080Jesus christ.You're not even baiting aren't you?
>>225188154Yes you stupid faggot
The next time you try to call Americans stupid, remember that we baited the Germans and Japanese not once, but TWICE into striking us first and giving our warhawk Presidents the easiest cassus belli to force our way into the war when the public didn't want itthey are that autistic. Stick some rusty shit ships out there and they will strike them lmfao
>>225188182You say this and in the next breath you will pretend that the Poles did not attack the Gleiwitz Radio Tower Very hypocritical as always
>>225188165>Projection
>>225187311The British public had a legitimate fear of the French navy being able to transport thousands of troops in a cross-channel invasion. William Gladstone personally disliked the German annexation of A-L as he thought it a naked imperialistic land grab, but was unsuccessful in getting anyone else to agree with him.
>>225188292>William Gladstone personally disliked the German annexation of A-L as he thought it a naked imperialistic land grabThis William Gladstone must not have been very well versed in the history of the region then, lmao
>My country economy and future is locked with retards such at this guy. They are 80+ millions of these krauts.We're doomed.
>>225188292Britain and France had been allies in the Crimean War out of convenience but a lot of traditional animosities still simmered especially the naval arms race the two engaged in during the 1850s-60s to construct ironclad ships. The signing of a free trade pact in 1860 did calm relations somewhat.
>>225188377Dude, the French created imbeciles like Robespierre and earnestly view him in the same leagues as Plato. You don't get to call anyone in the world retarded. The French are intellectual equals of Somalians
>>225188377I think we just found the most unabashedly biased German in the entire country here in this very thread, he's got a headcanon conspiracy theory for everything
>>225188417I think thats hardly the case, because if i had the mind of a somalian i would probably move to germany. Like all the other somalians.
>>225188453It's the other way around, actually. What you call mainstream history is the conspiracy theory of British and American bankers
I read Boule de Suif. The ancien régime was a decadent shithole. We unironically did the French a favor by crushing it.
>>225188417>Dude, the French created imbeciles like Robespierre and earnestly view him in the same leagues as Plato. You don't get to call anyone in the world retarded. The French are intellectual equals of SomaliansSays the cunt that gave us Nietzche and Marx.
>>225188486Oh I'm sorry. I forgot that France is totally a white country and that the current state of France's demographics is not exactly what we warned you against for ages.
>>225188453This guy has to be baiting.I never seen somebody so stupid and bitter on /int/.Probably some /pol/ tard that escaped his containement board.
>>225188499Yes? Nietzsche and Marx are astute intellectuals. It's the French that turned Marx' writings into a new catechesis for spiritually sick and envious people.
>>225188543It's bait, the dude is both criticizing global jewry and central banking and also glazing Marx lmao >>225188560
>>225188521Oh I'm sorry. I thought we were talking about Somalia?
>>225188609Yeah im out.God bless Buger boy.
>>225188386the trouble had started in 1858 with the Orsini affair which led to an outcry in France for war on the UK
>>225188609Yes, Marx the friend of global banking jewryAre you sure that I'm the one that is baiting here?
>>225188499not kidding, those two guys ruined the entire 20th century
>>225181513I thought Prussia was a silly name but of course the english language always changes words so I assumed the german name would be less silly, sadly I was wrong :(
>>225188698Why are you even butthurt about NietzscheThe guy was never wrong about anythingI think you are just mad because Americans all have slave morality
>You don't agree with my mainstream view of history... THAT MEANS YOU ARE BAITING AND A CONSPIRACY THEORISTYeah I get why you would hate Nietzsche lmao.A wise man once said: America is a nation of dalits
>>225188496Boule de Suif takes place during the winter of 1870.So during the second Empire and not at all during l'Ancien Régime, which is the period before the Revolution (pre 1789).Proves that you never read that book ever (As if a german had the intellectual capacity to understand a Maupassant book).Not a big surprise after the atrocious display of bullshit you posted the whole thread.Your a pseud. A larper. A keyboard warrior.
>>225188883he is not me but all these things are basedkeyboard warrior / larper -> just another way of framing someone who actually has beliefspseud -> just another way of shaming autodidacts that do not partake in the sham that is modern education
>>225188698Man it's lulzy to think that wars were fought, governments made and unmade, and millions laid down their lives for the rantings of a few incels.
>>225188982You are no autodidact.You don't even know the meaning of that word.
>>225189074Yea of course I am, I have aries jupiter, can't get a greater autodidact than that.
>>225182205>The Dreyse needle gun had been designed back in 1841 but was not universally adopted by the Prussian army until the 1850s, when it replaced variants of the old Model 1809 musket that had been the army's standard service arm since the Napoleonic Wars. It had no attachment point for a bayonet and fired an acorn-shaped round. It was flawed in a few ways, especially in the breech's tendency to leak gases when fired; consequently, soldiers were instructed to fire it from hip instead of shoulder height to avoid being blinded from the gas discharge. The weapon was first tested in the Second Schleswig War in 1864 and used to devastating effect there and two years later against the Austrian army. By the Franco-Prussian War, the Dreyse was obsolete and the German army quickly retired it in favor of the Model 1871 Mauser, a clone of the French Chassepot rifle.
>>225188182You would have come up with some other bullshit excuse to force the people into war anyway.
>>225189290>when it replaced variants of the old Model 1809 musket that had been the army's standard service arm since the Napoleonic WarsSome of the Prussian M1809 muskets were purchased on the cheap in the Civil War but proved useless as their .71 ammunition was not available in the United States and they were used with smaller .69 smoothbore cartridges that didn't work and were horribly inaccurate.
>>225182205Most armies still had muzzle loaders at that time. The British were just starting to switch to breechloading rifles in the 1860s.
>>225189402we imported Austrian Lorenz rifles as well; they also didn't work so good due to lack of the correct ammo type
>>225181513Needle rifles raped the french, it made kino borders, Germany would've been better off returning Alsace-Lorraine from the start, Hitler was OBSESSED with it and so were French diplomats. Nothing more>t. read Iron Kingdom two years ago
>>225189550The 1850s-60s was the short-lived era of muzzle-loading rifle muskets before they were replaced with breech loaders in the late 1860s (we have seen, the Prussian army went straight from smoothbore muskets to breech loaders and skipped the rifle musket entirely). The Civil War was the largest conflict that they were used in. There were some rapid technological leaps in the mid-19th century when prior to that warfare in the Western world had been pretty static and changed little since the War of the Spanish Succession.
>>225189402>.71 caliber>.69 caliberthat sounds terrifying. probably the worst era of warfare to be an infantryman in.
>>225189892The actual round was a little smaller. About .69 and .67 caliber. The given caliber referred to the width of the barrel.
>>225181513All I know is that it led to the funniest events of France's history, the clown show that was the Paris commune.
>>225188417>imbeciles like RobespierreAnd retards like Babeuf and Rousseau.
>>225188560>Marx >astute intellectual.His bullshit irreversibly fucked this continent up following independence.
The shitshow of the Paris Commune is a far more entertaining story
>>225191000yes as anon said, the French leadership agreed to Bismarck's peace terms in exchange for the Prussian army's help in suppressing the PC
>>225189744The Austrians were using Lorenz rifles and muzzle-loading cannons in the SWW while the Prussians had breech-loading artillery.
>>225181513I know France got utterly embarassed on many levels.
>>225189290>breech's tendency to leak gases when fired; consequently, soldiers were instructed to fire it from hip instead of shoulder height to avoid being blinded from the gas dischargeThis is bullshit fuddlore. It wasn't perfect and certainly not as good as the Chassepot but the Dreyse was a perfectly good service rifle. A rifle you can't even aim down the sights of would be fucking useless.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snQ0G5MuvV8
Now the 1861 Springfield rifle was the premier Civil War weapon. It had a sight and an effective range of 500 yards but soldiers never really used it; they mostly continued to do the same smoothbore musket volley fire tactics. American battlefield doctrine was a bit behind that of European armies which were starting to move towards modern-style squad and platoon tactics instead of massed line infantry. European armies also had different types of riflemen trained for shooting at different ranges.
>>225192423that made sense because the last war the US fought was in Mexico, which was still Napoleonic fighting with smoothbore line infantry and cavalry saber charges. the European states had since fought the Crimean conflict and the Sardinian war which used the newer rifle muskets.
>>225192244or a comparison of the Dreyse vs the Lorenz rifle. the Danes had muzzle loader rifles in 1864 but idk the details about those.
>>225192661The Austrians were absolutely waxed at Sadowa. They lost an impressive 31,000 men killed or wounded against about 9,000 Prussians. Another 12,000 men were captured.
>>225192423the US was a lot harder place to fight in than Europe and terrain was poorly mapped out
>>225192661the Prussians began the SSW in February 1864. attacking in winter...bad idea? actually Denmark has really mild winters for the latitude. the main issue was the short daylight hours that time of year (although getting steadily longer over February)
>>225193200about as mild as the Deep South
Winter campaigns are always tough. At least Western Europe had good paved roads and not dirt tracks that turned to mud when it rained.
>>225181513the funniest part of the franco prussian war wasn't even the war itself it was when adolphe thiers obliterated the paris commune with the prussian army camped right next to the city watching it all unfold
>>225193435>Copenhagen in February is generally cold and windy, with average daytime temperatures around 3°C (37°F) and nighttime lows dropping to around -1°C to -2°C (30°F to 28°F). Daylight increases rapidly from about 8.5 hours at the start of the month to nearly 11 hours by late February, though days are frequently overcast.
>>225194562>>225194672ah Europe and its pleasant little postcard villages so unlike the mean, rough woods and swamps of the Civil War
>>225184275No they did not. They especially disregarded the idea that entrenched infantry could mow down incoming enemy attacks.
>>225194957Didn't even really pay attention to the Russo-Japanese War.
>>225195003Spectators were sent there, it's just that they all left thinking that war hasn't changed at all and so there was basically no change in military theory.
>>225195077it was more like they thought it was a bunch of Asiatic barbarians (both the Russians and Japanese) and there was nothing in the war worth studying
>>225194760The United States was huge compared to France or Germany and had much worse infrastructure outside the Northeast, plus it was poorly mapped out. The entire first year of the ACW was spent just assembling armies and training them. They did not have large, professional conscript armies on the call who could be mobilized in a few weeks.Also the French in the F-P War were still mostly using massed line infantry while the Prussians had begun using modern-style squad and platoon formations. The Prussian units were more mobile, harder to spot on the field, and harder to hit with artillery.
>>225195077>tfalso in the 1877-78 conflict the Ottoman army had repeater rifles and mowed down Russian charges with ease which led to a European rush to abandon single shot rifles for repeaters
>>225195167the US Army since the early days had been Francophiles and France was traditionally Europe's premier land power so we'd always copied French tactics, uniforms, and equipment, including their use of massed line infantry
>>225195167the lower ranking Prussian officers were also encouraged to show independent initiative and change tactics on the fly, while the French officers were more expected to obey top-down commands.
>>225181513nothing
