Define, RIGHT NOW and with no further delay, what makes someone white.Is it a genotype? Is it a phenotype? Are there necessary but insufficient conditions? Can there be such a thing as "honorary" status? Can you lose whiteness? Is a blue-eyed English person more related to a blue-eyed Afghan than to a brown-eyed Brit?
>>225463850Nobody cares KAWPTWDDCB
It can't be objectively defined, it's a feeling and a catch-all term for grouping together broadly similar peoples without clear common denominators among them. It's one facet of identity politics, a way of establishing an "us" and a "them" in order to advance some purpose or another (most common being feeling good about yourself). Whiteness is a way of establishing superiority based on apparent physical characteristics.
Hitler already did this
>>225463850everyone leaks their clitty if i define it as a turkish person so i wont bother
>>225464227What's your thesis?
Non brown eyes Caucasoid phenotype (if not jewish) = whiteBrown or lighter hair Caucasoid phenotype (if not jewish) = whitePale skin Caucasoid phenotype (if not jewish) = white
>>225463850>Define, RIGHT NOW and with no further delay, what makes someone white.Being >90% caucasoid/west eurasian>Is it a genotype?Yes>Is it a phenotype?Kind of but not really. >Are there necessary but insufficient conditions? Dont know what this means.>Can there be such a thing as "honorary" status? No, you can jever be white if you're not genetically white>Can you lose whiteness?As an individual? No. As a bloodline? Yes. >Is a blue-eyed English person more related to a blue-eyed Afghan than to a brown-eyed Brit?Absolutely not lmao. Blue eyed Englishmen have the genes for brown eyes, they just aren't being expressed. Please take note that some very white individuals can have kids with slightly subpar Caucasoids to produce acceptable levels of whiteness, for example, anyone from WANA that is west of pakistan/Afghanistan and north of sudan can have kids with a western european to produce white people, because the total Caucasoid admicture of 95% + 85%/2 is ~90%. ( ashkenazi Jews are white )Oh, yeah, and one more thing. Northeastern europeans are less white than true western europeans due to their elevated EHG ( part Mongoloid ) admixture. And all europeans are part Mongoloid.
>>225464332Jews are white
>>225464332So a blue-eyed Jew isn't white, but some swarthy Tunisian guy is?
>>225464495Pay no attention to germoid delusions.
>>225463850Pink genitalia and nipples
>>225464495Most Tunisians are too swarthy and have black hair brown eyes
I refer you to Ben Franklin's definition.
>>225464366>muh Collor skinHolly shit, racism of type popular is really cringe, ethnic groups are based in format of skull, nouse, autosomal DNA, anything but color of eyes is the last thing to get as a criterous...
>>225464652>muh I am blonde>ok what about skull format: dinaric alpine nouse, dolicocephalous, visible Cromagnoid traits, therefore Croatian European ...
>>225464787>but my daughter is brown hairSame nouse as yours, dolocephalic like you and dinaric nouse... Croatian
it is a social construct. it is a fool's errand trying to set objective parameters.
"white" like "western" has always been a mutt/kike false category purposefully designed to confuse and divide because some jews can look white without despite being our mortal enemiesthe only category that matters is native european, everything else is worthless and subversive
>>225465124And this because jews are racemixed between palestinians and italians at the end but amerimutts will say: impossible, not exist blonde italians like asheknazims are
>>225465225North italians are a thing to you guy?!
>>225463850you know it when you see it
>>225465566So how's the future white ethnostate going to codify that?
>>225463850The proximity towards the anglomore anglo = more whitesimple as
>>225466304Funny you say that as most maps of blue-eyes and blonde hair place the Baltics at the epicenter of whiteness.
>>225467846There are a bunch of indians who are blonde and blue eyedare they white?I think we should define whiteness based on its origin, which is the Anglo.
>>225467872Thank you very much for bring such point: being poor not means that you are more caucasian than X people, being rich and landlord not means not made you white, exist wars, politics and many motives that nations are poor
>>225463850Whiteness is just an informal term for a group considered to be a traditional part Western Civilization. It's why Greeks considered white, when Greeks are genetically closer to Near Eastern populations than to Northern European peoples.>>225464212Lmao, Hitler gave zero shits about whiteness and destroyed Europe for his schizo worldview no one believes in nowadays.
>>225463850A fair skin tone, you bunch of racist dum-dums. So-called “white” skin is not even literally white. Yes, albinos are “white” too. If you think this is somehow linked to culture then take a good look at trailer trash and differences between German, French and Italian customs, or the Northern Ireland conflict.
>>225463850Paleness. If you get a tan, you cease to be white.
>>225468265What if you turn lobster-red?
>>225468795You get skin cancer
>>225468795Then you may have an acute case of Britishness or Germanhood.
>>225464212Why are Slavs like this
>>225463850The White Man - New World civilization establishers, overseas traders and their descendents. British, Spanish, Portugeese, French, Dutch White as most people use it - Pale skinned descendent of (mostly) Europeans. Includes people like Nick Fuentes or Putin
>>225463850It's a social construct. Henceforth why italian and irish immigrants weren't upgraded to the status of white until the chinese and mexicans started coming over.
this is a 100 % ethnic azeri woman. no drop of white blood in her at all
Everyone already agrees that people who look white are white. It's people going "hurr durr I don't like these white people and don't want to give them the positive connotations of being white, so I'll say they're not white". It's language retardation.
>>225470144crusader rapebaby
>>225470144“White” is indeed a social construct that does not exclusively mean European, at least in modern day when for example ethnic categories like Irish and Italian are considered that in the U.S.A., whereas originally they weren't considered so. So it has a lot to do with phenotype. People of African descent will put down one of their own for “acting white” just because they are not fitting the black stereotype, which is a cultural and behavioral matter. But they are not really referring to “white” either because perhaps that has to do with a particular taste, interest or civic behavior that an Asian-American could also replicate.
>>225470111Based
Fucking hell varg you are 60 years old and your adult children are going on camera saying we wuz hoteps n shiet. Get a grip you attention whore.
>>225470257what was the file you deleted?
>>225463850You are white if the idea of a small piece of the packaging of the snack you ate falling from the dedicated pocket you put it in and landing on the ground, be it in a town, in a dump, in nature, on a road, on a river, makes you uncomfortable and shameful by anticipation.
>>225463850By its original definition literally all it meant is the paler you are the more European you are, that's allan invention of the Reconquista to yeet Muslims out "efficiently"
>>225463850Having blue eyes.>b-but what about this extremely rare group of arabs or this random sub-Saharan African with a 1 in a million mutat-I do not care.Blue eyes are the single most important thing about being white. If you do not have blue eyes, you are not white.
>>225471322I hear you, brother.Where do I demand my citizenship for the white ethnostate?
>>225463850Why would you insult this girl by lumping her together with some bald britgopnik or some other ugly europoor via the word "white" just because they both have blue eyes?
Doesn't exist. Has never existed. As absurd as calling myself yellow so I can pretend to be a Samurai or mongol.
>>225463850European with European ancestry Thats itSo yes that means Iberians, Italians, Albanians, and Greeks are all white
>>225471383>literally lives in England>cannot read the English language
>>225463850Call a nigger a nigger and see if you are white.
>>225471441Sardinians? Georgians? Turks?
>>225463850Skin white
>>225463850race is a social construct lol. admixture studies indicate very little difference between those of european and middle eastern descent. the traits of white skin and blue eyes actually originated in central asia
>>225465124>The Americans did it! >America isn't even old enough to be a real country but nothing existed before it! Shut up retard
>>225463850>Define, RIGHT NOW and with no further delay, what makes someone white.an Aadhaar card, issued solely by gov of India
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>>225464366holy pseudoscience. there is no such thing as a white genotype lmao. also, it is impossible to have the genes for brown eyes and have blue eyes (excluding rare circumstances like albinism) because blue eyes are a recessive trait, and you need two copies of that allele. "mongoloid" is a fake term made up in the 18th century, by the way
>>225470017Nice try Nick
>>225463850Somebody who has majority European ancestry. It's not a visual thing.
>>225473451wrong, white skin originated in west asia (anatolia)
>>225473500ah you're right, i misremembered. my point stands that it's not inherently european, though.
Never ask a leftoid to define "woman"Never ask a rightoid to define "white"
>>225463850Because Greece and Italy gave the rest of Europe civilization even though they are the best among browns we will let you have them as the brownest you can be and still count as white. Everyone whiter than someone from Sicily and the Peloponnese is white.
Whiteness is entirely defined phenotypically for normies, and you need light eyes to be fully white. They don't have to be blue, but just not brown like Asians. Whites with brown eyes will always be seen as lesser. No one cares about genetic charts and haplogroups. A Syrian with white skin and blue eyes will be considered whiter than a swarthy Italian to most people. People just look at your face, and if you look white, then you are white.
>>225463850Germanic => whiteanything else => non-whitesimple as
white = being rich and powerfulnot white = being a wageslaveor do you really think the likes of Brian Thompson saw all cumskins as equals?
>>225474010This basically./thread
>>225464092me on the left
>>225463850If they look like it to me.
>>225463850other people's perceptions and judgement. I'm 3/4 white (western european), 1/4 Japanese. I have naturally dark, curly hair I inherited from my Japanese grandmother, who had very curly hair. (My white grandparents had straight hair).When I left my hair curly, I got read as white, but when I started straightening it, first with a flatiron and later with japanese thermal reconditioning, everyone started reading me as asian.
>>225463850White means EuropeanI love ALL Europeans, no matter the phenotype.European means you're native to Europe, your ancestors are from the region called Europe.>>225464451Jews are not European, nor human really not sure what they are but they sure hate the nations (us humans)
>>225463850she is probably a british rapebaby anon.
>>225474214This. Even if you're from Brazil. If your anecestor are all European, you're European/white like me.
>>225474186Aast Asians almost all have very straight hair. There's an immensly greater chance you got curly hair from your white ancestors.I lived 7 years in China (Harbin), I've never met anyone with naturally non-straight hair.Diversity really is a "caucasian"-only trait
>>225471653>SardiniansThey're just Italians aren't they?>GeorgiansNot Europe. They also look rather central Asian >TurksNot Europe.
>>225474255I met my grandparents you drooling retard. My Japanese grandma had an afro back when she was still alive. My mom has curly hair too, not an afro but still curly, like 2C/3A, same as me. Grandpa on my mom's side had pin-straight hair, same as my dad's parents. this shit isn't complicated, there really are Japanese people with curly hair genes.
Whiteness means nothing. What you mean is ethnicity. The broadest 3 races are caucasoids, negroids, and mongoloids which are defined by skull shapes etcThen within those broad 3 there are different ethnicities like european caucasoid and within that there are sub ethnicities like nordic, med etc
>>225474234VGH my Evropean brother...
>>225474214Thoughts on Slavs and Albanians?>>225474271>Georgians look Central Asianyou are retarded
>>225474344>a Georgian and a Tajik
>>225474281ask any east asian "can an east-asian grow an afro naturally ?" kekI mean, you're a rootless anethnic mutt, which is perfectly fine on stolen land.In fact, you're the future.In an hundred years, the earth will be populated by racially ambiguous retards thinking their Polish grandma had black skin.very much cutting-edge in a way
Anglo-Saxon = peak whiteBritish Isles = whiteCentral & East Europe = cream whiteScandinavia = orange whiteSouthern Europe = olive white
>>225474377???you're also blind, got it
>>225474214holy based
>>225474381about 10-15% of the population of both Japan and China have naturally curly hair. you just don't see it typically because these traits are associated with ethnic minorities in these countries (Okinawan for Japan, Central Asian for China), and people with them either get haircuts that hide the curliness or they straighten it to not stand out / be discriminated against. My Japanese grandmother is Okinawan.
>>225463850Whiteness is irrelevant, the metric that matters is Europeanness. Not born in Europe ? Not European. Muslim? Not European. Circumcised? Not European. Would look out of place in a Middle Ages folk painting? Not European. Doesn't eat pork on a daily basis? Definitely not European.>>225470144Azerbaijan is not in Europe
>>225474344Slavs are European, slavic languages are one of the three native linguistic continuum of Europe (with latin and germanic languages).Albanians are doubly marginal, not only are they a linguistic isolate, but they are also ottoman rape-babies who worship a non-european religion. They are often very distasteful, selling drugs and whatnot (not all of them, but their diaspora is a pain)To me, Armenians and even Georgians are more Europeans (e.g. "white") just for the sake of being Christian and very civil.I especially love Armenia for giving us the grearest french-language lyricist of the 19th century
>>225474516 I was planning on going full aspie mode and start autism wars but I changed my mind and reconsidered it, since you tried to be nice
>>225474377Our PM looks like an illegitimate son of Javier Milei for some reason they really teach some weird things in Germoney
>>225474612forget about my love from you guys are from the Caucasus, please go full aspie mode
>>225474727no can do sorry, it's already in the stone https://youtu.be/I7QvNXBl2x0
>>225463850This girl is the product of the sexual crime of a USA soldier in afghanistan or iraq.
