Cossacks look like one of those people with some kickass throatsinging but actually there is none
>>225468861To this day i still haven't understood what Cosacks are. Is it just ukranians? Is it the elite unit of the Russian Empiral army? Are they raiders and plunders pirates? Are they mercenaries?
>>225468964Escapee serfs
>>225468964There are like all of these. Ukrainian history of that period gets kind of confusing and despite being in one massive cunt two times we really don't have much in common with them, then their absolutely spectacular chimpouts during WWII, needles to say very strange people.
>>225468964basically land pirates (sometimes naval) they had military democracy which had become the cornerstone of ukranian statehood
>>225469241So bandits, like those thuggees of India
>>225469291no thuggees were shizo cultists the cossacks didn't care about religion however anyone who wanted to join had to drink vodka probably as precaution against muslim spies also their military force was significant they even raided the Istanbul several times simple bandits wouldn't be able to do it
>>225469241> they had military democracy which had become the cornerstone of ukranian statehoodKek
>>225469577What is the joke?! Austria have less legitimal history to exist than this. Cossacks of Kiev at least had a Word to them: ruthens, austrians aren't Germany because?!
>>225469241This is bullshit, the hetmanate had nothing to do with "Ukraine" and no Cossack ever considered themselves "Ukrainian" until 19th century romantic nationalism decided retroactively that they were and that the traitor Mazepa was some great Ukrainian national hero
>>225469740Dude, all nations are some made up. What about Vietnam, South is SEA, North is chink, and we champas are only United with this east asian niggers because of some marxist junta militar
>>225469740this is bullshit everyone know that lenin invented ukraine
>>225469819He is definitely more important to "Ukrainian statehood" than Cossacks
>>225469819What about Belarus?! Nooot saaar this is a very diferent case, they are eurasian suporter Lenin based warriors and some fucking real nation with old ancient history
>>225469875They wuz the grand duchy and sheit while we were zmudzins farting in the swamps>t. bulbashian litvin and pshek nationalist historiography
>>225469740>>225469819You are both full of shit. It's a well established historical fact that the so-called 'Ukraine" was invented by the Austro-Hungarian General Staff during WWI.
>>225469875I pity them
>>225469984For not gettomg bombed everyday + plus half of young people in Germany?
>>225469943We all know you are all Scythians
Top 3 most important figures of Ukrainian nationhood:3. Vladimir Lenin2. Adam Mickiewicz1. Adolf Hitler
>>225470051You forgot my nigga who causes massive butthurt to this day.
>>225470051I'd put Putin in the #1 spot unironically. That man singlehandedly did more to bolster Ukrainian national unity and help us ditch any and all geopolitical and economic orientation towards the CIS and to solidify a pro-EU and pro-NATO course, than all the politicians here since 1991 combined. I mean, he is obviously a despicable "human" from an equally despicable "gas station with nukes, but no gas" of a country, but still.
>>225470146All the actual most important Ukrainians are just supporting roles to the people I listed. There would be no Bandera without Hitler, there would be no Shevchenko without Mieckewicz, and there would be no polity with the borders of modern Ukraine without Lenin. Ukraine is an anti-Russian project so its greatest figures are Russia's greatest enemies, but the Ukrainians themselves play a supporting role. For example other "heroes" of Ukrainian nationhood and the real anti-Russian world-historic figures that enabled them:Ivan Mazepa - Charles XIIPavel Skoropadsky - the KaisersVladimir Zelensky - Hillary Clinton
>>225470330I agree.
>>225470330Yeah you might be right
>>225469943>>225469984Do you think Taras Shevchenko would like Stalker series?
>>225470403>>225470446I mean, how fucking bad of a glowie do you have to be, to misjudge us THAT badly? Shouldn't have drunk his own Kool-Aid, I guess.
>>225470523I guess? Been playing through Stalker 2 on and off after the 2.0 patch, very enjoyable.
>>225470536I agree that Putin fucked it but it was already kind of fucked. In a different universe Russia and Ukraine could have joined the EU together and dismantled the border between them but the European powers that be would never accept Russia in the EU
>>225468964>To this day i still haven't understood what Cosacks are.Criminals & misfits like modern day hohols
>>225470610>In a different universe Russia and Ukraine could have joined the EU togetherNot happening in any time line where russia exists in its current form, and not as several smaller independent states.
>>225468964nomad hillbillies from pontic steppes copying turkic peoples traditions o algo
>>225468964i heard it was a mobile semi-militarized group created to fight muslim slave raids, a common thing in that lands, unfortunately
>>225471079If you have some original statements to make, that are not the same, infinitely recycled, russian talking points, please go ahead. Otherwise, I you can ask AI to explain it to you how full of shit you are.
>>225468861they can do other things with their throats, iykwim
>>225468861They are slavs larping as us
>>225468964Kievan Rus' was devastated after Mongol campaigns there, basically turned into post-apocalyptic wasteland where barelly anyone lived. So in other parts of the Rus' escaped serfs, criminals, mercenaries, freedom seekers and all sorts of people were going there.
>>225474671Fuck off from my country you piece of shit
Cossacks are more pirates than nomads, therefore no throat singing
>>225468861Friendly reminder that this event is totally fake and Slavs made it up by translating a German language pamphlet into Russian.
>>225470571Did they really fix that shite because I played it on launch then deleted it and went back to play analmeme (anomaly).
>>225475360Pavel uses a VPN he is not in Kazakhstan unless he uses his geodesic laser for teleportation.
>>225468861everyone in this part of europe was larping steppe asians at that time"sarmatism" was literally that
>>225475515Yeah, you should really check it out
>>225475598Didn't really took of here as much as I remember from literature class. We however had a short lived Aesti LARP and being long lost Romans.
>>225475360Who's in who's country, go back south you slanty eyed yellow muslim barbarian, you're one living on chaldon land.
>>225475722Go back to Russia vermin coward
>>225475750Why would I go to russia and why would it be going back?
>>225475765You are such disgusting coward and piece of shit who worships warmongering retards but would never ever fight for them
>>225475794I can see a lot of projecting in this post
>>225475655>Didn't really took of here as muchYeah afaik you're right. The original idea of Sarmatism was that every nation and also tiny local minorities in PLC were "Sarmats", that included both nobles and peasants. But retarded s*lachta decided that only nobles were Sarmatians and I guess in late period that only "polish nobles" were part of that culture. By doing this they destroyed the idea to integrate the region together under steppe asian larping in similar way Scandinavians see themselves. That's why Russia won with their "p*nslavism". I fucking hate s*lachta so much it's unreal (I have roots unfortunately).>being long lost RomansDidn't know that kek. But most of European nobles at that time did larp Roman ancestry.
>>225475817I thought schlachta loved sarmatism because it looked cool as fuck
>>225475722racist mfs in /int is insane. Kazakhstan is home to approximately 130 different ethnic groups and you guys insulting each other?
>>225475841Probably also this, but their main goal was to distinguish themselves from other parts of Europe. Also larping Roman ancestry in this part of Europe would be pretty retarded so they decided to link themselves with exotic ancient civilisation. Because nobles in Europe were all larping that they come from some family from ancient civilisation (most were larping Romnas or Greeks).
>>225475878He is pavel lolcow, he is an imperialist scum zigger
>>225475878I'm asian though
>>225475915you probably Korean
>>225475950Why
>>225475817There is a lot of crazy national ideas from 17-19th century like relocating Lithuania to Madagascar and what not.>>225475888Pavel is far away from a ziggoid.>>225475950He looks like if his family was Swedish POW's deported to Vorkuta.
>>225476041>relocating Lithuania to MadagascarDude what
>>225476169return to homeland, like the jews
>>225476169Use some translator or whateverhttps://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atsargin%C4%97_Lietuva
>>225475987Koreans in Kazakhstan likely have Russian first names and Korean surnames for example, Sergey Tsoy or Andrey Kim etc
>>225476041>relocating Lithuania to MadagascarI guess they only got to the flag part before running out of funds?
>>225476238Being squeezed between Germany and Russia is like a woman in a two way glory hole. You never know when will you take it up the mouth or ass.
>>225476235Aleuts in Alaska have Russian names too I dont see how its relevant
>>225468861they were into musical instruments instead, like bandura and torban.
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